Saber Monarch Issues

[sharp mountain]

thats where our experiences differ

its not once in a blue moon at all

but you are most definitely correct not disagreeing with you

[open spindle]

when 90% of the time she does no DPS, and 9% she does what shes supposed to, you cant use the 1% bug where she dupes her nuke from nowehere to kill a 5 mil HP boss in seconds to say shes good

too RNG

the problem here is consistency.

you can consistently make her to -50% damage every attack

you cant consistently make her dupe nuke

that only happens from lag every so often

[sharp mountain]

you’re 90 percent

is from your experience

do not use it like a fact just like my experience isnt a fact

[open spindle]

my using an etherial or a monarch saber for hours every day testing all her bugs since she came out experience?

I have been using her on my main team since she came out, and I can tell you as a fact, shes worse than running normal saber

I'm just a a fate fan

[sharp mountain]

everybody knows she isnt better than normal saber

you stated the obvious

even if it did work i still see normal saber having more use

[open spindle]

nah, the slow, if it didnt disable every other CC, and if she wasnt bug ridden, she has too much going for her

Sakura is a good support in general too since Gojo exists

its not like you are losing anything by running Sakura if it worked as intended

she'd be used everywhere for the slow and generally good damage, along with the cheap full AOE

well, "cheap"

cheap comparatively

[sharp mountain]

nah its definitely pretty cheap u right

its actually insane

and with the slow

it could be amazing

[open spindle]

70k to upgrade 10, which is where you should almost always leave Salter

[sharp mountain]

the simple fact that she can get the third passive at any point

is what makes her really nasty

[open spindle]

if her third passive didnt copy whatever attack AOE shes on, and instead was just always full AOE (it should be) you would always max her if she worked as intended

but not only does it copy her current attack AOE, she doesnt work as intended

you leave her on full aoe

full AOE nuke goes insane

[sharp mountain]

the full aoe damage is to far from the max to even do that ngl

aye i think the biggest thing with the second passive is the fact that the attack happens at the same time

if it happened a little after like gogeta it would cuck us

well actually gogeta is technically spawning another unit

[hot pewter]

how do u have a 4.5 spa on sakura?

[open spindle]

thats just Z+ stat and her own passive with blitz

its really not difficult to get her there, she has nobody corrupted cause theres no reason to corrupt anyone RN

[hot pewter]

mb if i am miss understanding
but i thought her ability was great on gojo

[open spindle]

it is, but I couldnt fit Gojo onto that team

[hot pewter]

quick question since u know more about the units more than me
but does sakura ability like make units attack based on her first passive?
cause when i was testing her with gojo he basically attacked every second instead of like 10 seconds

[open spindle]

No, it makes them attack on the averaged SPA, its why Blitz is her best trait

well, Etherial, but only the SPA part matters

[regal igloo]

honestly sometimes using Sakura's ability doesn't show any change in SPA even though it's supposed to balance and average everyone's SPA

I don't know how that works

confused

[pine sandal]

the spa change only shows on the sakura unit

so the displayed spa on sakura

is the spa that it changed too

[opal canyon]

what was the subaru post

[brittle bridge]

It was to rework return by death since it was shit

Subaru in general was never a attack type of character by kinda gave support

So it's a little weird he gave himself dmg and range despite being more fitted as a buff unit

And then his ability that would normally been some sort of time rewind or something ended up being as it is right now

Which 20% buff is definitely not bad but can 100% be more fitted for his character

[vernal night]

and yet it's not enough for her to be used in lb runs, or tourneys..

[brittle bridge]

It got declined tho so

[brittle bridge]

Yeah

Only if the next tourney is courney related

I mean

Curse related

Like 100% or above curse

Then salter would be crazy

But besides that

Not allat

[deep spoke]

• Fixed Servant mechanics and some unit abilities making you unable to move the mouse to change placement location on console
• Fixed the hotbar not coming back after you finished placing Servant mechanics/unit ability locations
• Fixed Dark-Tainted Tyrant, Saber (Alternate) becoming empowered if game is restarted while A.W.E. is alive
• Fixed picking caster softlocking you when repicking Servants
• Fixed Servant mechanics locking camera position on mobile & console
• Fixed being able to stack Saber (Alternate)'s attacks when placed in specific ways
• Fixed A.W.E. being instant-killable with Oathbreaker

bro where is the saber cc fix

are cooked?

alr

thanks for making a unit op and making her useless

@burnt narwhal r the devs trolling?

ig im not using saber for my runs

[agile pebble]

bro can they fix this sh dawg I can't even use salter in runs now wtf is the point of my monarch on her

[solid glacier]

Monarch Lilia is best this upd trust :)

[agile pebble]

id rather monarch rin

[open spindle]

Rin tohsaka isnt in the game?

[agile pebble]

-_-

[open spindle]

Ishtar isnt Rin.

It may be a goddess possessing Rin, but it isnt Rin.

[slow zealot]

haruka rin

[slow zealot]

she is

[vernal night]

how?

[slow zealot]

ok ig esdeath is there

2nd best

[brittle bridge]

Shes good cuz i said so

[slow zealot]

jogo monarch stand ontop

[spark igloo]

how good is salter

[slow zealot]

monarch is good non monarch dont bother

[dire karma]

Imo the sabaru suggestion was unreasonable and came off more as a tantrum that the op’s fav character wasn’t super strong. All of the kit reworks people suggested turned him into a loaded multi-roled support that would’ve made him too OP. Glad it was declined.

This suggestion for salter however makes sense. Cuz it doesn’t ask for a whole lot

We just want an important bug fixed @burnt narwhal

[slow zealot]

saber's dps doesnt make up for the loss of cc

also i wanted a unit that slowed in a circle i didnt want them to kill every other cc

[brittle bridge]

Yeah I definitely think his ability should of just been some sort of relation with time + buff and it would of been good

[bold bramble]

b

[spice saddle]

c

[feral lodge]

I GOT A MONARCH OF HER TOO

[brittle bridge]

I think where he is rn tho is good, his ability increasing dmg buff makes him better then rin in a dmg case

Good for tourney, good for buff stacking, good overall, not meta tho

[slow zealot]

Idk I think he is meta

Buffers are meta for progressive content and Subaru has longer wave niche too

Money gen in this game is garb you can't max out alot of units fully for non inf content

So buffers are good for that

[bold bramble]

subaru is amazing its just way better haruka

20+ dmg + 10% on abilities + range as well or smt like that

[pine sandal]

Yeah the only problem is his cost

Haruka is better for prog is because she gets her max potential buff from just placing her down

[bold bramble]

ye but subaru refunds the cost no?

[pine sandal]

80%

So around 50k

[bold bramble]

oh

[pine sandal]

So you lose 15k yen

Just a minor difference

15k yen for a slightly better buff

[bold bramble]

depends on team then i guess 2% + 10% on abilities but its 100% uptime on gogeta for example

[slow zealot]

Gogeta has 50% uptime

Medusa has like 80%

Those the only relevant ones

[brittle bridge]

One of the best unit for Subaru is Medusa

Gaze is like a 10-20 second ability

Probably why she's fucking crazy in tourney with Subaru

You can just spam her ability and it makes her do so much dmg

[slow zealot]

Subaru is passion so he is js good

[last karma]

they nerf sakura so hard 😦

[spark igloo]

Huh

What did they do

I dont have her yet

[last karma]

with each spa change of your corrupted unit
it will affect spa of sakura automaticly
so even if you corrupt your gojo at 4,1 spa
and then up him to 10 spa
it will count 10 spa instead of 4,1 spa

[spark igloo]

I have no clue what that means

I mean

I saw gojo belting hollow purples every second

So he cant do that anymore?

[last karma]

YE

nah

[last karma]

weaker than pre bug sakura lol

[spark igloo]

dang rip

she's still good though? or is she niche now

[last karma]

only good if you run with salter otherwise not worth it

[hot pewter]

so basically now she is a mid support and is forced to be used with another unit..
great another reason why slalter sucks

[open spindle]

I mean, sakura still lowers SPA for Gojo substantially, and when we inevitably get high SPA units in the future she’ll shine more then

Yeah, its not by as much as before, but you cant tell me you thought 2 SPA gojo was intended

How in gods name would the average between 2 and 8 (godly SPA plus max self buff from void) be 2.5

[hot pewter]

yeah ofc ik it was a bugg
but it was the only reason person said she was "good" without salter

[open spindle]

Halfing Gojo’s SPA, which doe does, is still worth a slot. For 2 slots, gojo and her, you get 2 monarch gojos worth of dps.

[hot pewter]

i think its dumb they made salter just as a passive for her

[hot pewter]

halfing?
corrupting two gojos didnt give me half

[open spindle]

Salters bad cause of her bugs. And Salter having a passive that needs Sakura makes a little sense, i mean. Not a lot, but a little considering Salter only exists cause of Sakura in heavens feel route

[open spindle]

Why would you corrupt two gojos???

You corrupt a fubuki or other similarly low SPA support unit and a gojo

The average of 2 gojo SPA’s is… gojo spa

[hot pewter]

that wouldnt work in my team
since my lowest spa is ram

[open spindle]

Corrupt ram on last upgrade, you’ll half gojos’s SPA 1/4th of the time, and since its not fully parched yet, if you corrupt during Rem’s ability you’ll have the low SPA for a long while every time it goes back don

Point is, 2 support units isnt a lot to ask, especially when Fubuki is a good general support, cause SPA is so powerful, and Sakura is basically saying “second gojo”

Shes good, Saltee isnt. But when Salter needs Sakura people can’t separate the two mentally for some reason

Salter will be good once they fix the bugs, which I made sure Leni knew about and reported

Leni knows of all the major bugs i’ve found in my extensive testing cause I keep pinging her

Salter is gonna be hyper meta once she gets even just the slow field negating all CC fixed

[hot pewter]

eh these are the av devs
they delaying the fixs fr

[open spindle]

Probably till 4.0 update

Like they did with Gogeta’s bugs

But they are still aware of them

[orchid crystal]

Imagine Yhwach passives.

[open spindle]

Which, knowing the schedule they set for themselves?

Next weekend

[hot pewter]

cap

lets be real

[open spindle]

Call my crazy, but Anime Royale Muzan

[hot pewter]

av devs aint updating on time

[open spindle]

They specifically said every 2 weeks, and they’ve kept it so far

[slow zealot]

this game got so many fucking bugs idk why

[hot pewter]

ngl i am gonna be a unit that outclasses salter next update

[slow zealot]

4.0 is prob next week yeah but i hope its in 3 weeks i want a bugless update bro

[hot pewter]

as long as they update idc about the bugs lol

[open spindle]

Dps wise? Probably not, shes already only 10-20K behind Gogeta with a full aoe depending on sakura SPA (on paper ignoring bugs)

[slow zealot]

nah i do this shit sucks

[open spindle]

Passive wise? Maybe like Barragan could have the same slow passive, but I doubt it

[slow zealot]

they drop so many annoying bugs and then either dont fix them or take fucking weeks

id rather wait more for updates that dont break the game with bugs

[open spindle]

Gotta agree is plshep

Nvm I can’t believe he used that sticker

I am now against him

[hot pewter]

ngl the only reason why i hate salter
is to get her full potential i have to nerf my team by bringing Sakura and she nerfs my units spa
like imo i feel like brining two other supports or one would be better

[open spindle]

Nerf your team? Bro? Doubling Gojos DPS is nerfing your team?

[hot pewter]

i just check my dps on gojo and it was 7.6

so idk

[open spindle]

Also, just dont place units directly in her range, every map has better placements

[orchid crystal]

i need another shop in update 4.0 with 400 rerolls

[open spindle]

Gojo is a full aoe unit, we dont get many of those

[open spindle]

Full aoes are suuuupppperrrr powerful

Its why I can’t believe how little dps Salter gets after upgrade 10

[open spindle]

you gotta make the trade off atleast kinda worthwhile

[orchid crystal]

Alucard is the goat because he has the most cheap full aoe in the game with bleed and 20% buff for all units.

[open spindle]

You never go past upgrade 10 unless you are really bad at math

[open spindle]

Yeah, and Salters full aoe is also rather cheap and has a 20% perma slow that will be amazing once they fix their bugs

[orchid crystal]

We need a buff in her upgrades

[slow zealot]

idk i feel like full aoe isn't allat the problem w salter is that her downsides make her function worse than other meta units

[open spindle]

We really dont, I think its by design, they want you to leave her at full aoe, upgrades 11-14 are bait for people like the one a little further up who tried telling me that you should always max salter

[slow zealot]

you basically make everyone in your party dogshit and break timestops and freeze at the trade of doing a little better than saber

[open spindle]

No, the problem with salter is that she has so many bugs, breaking timestops is one of them btw, confirmed by a tester

[slow zealot]

and she does worse than saber if you allow freeze lmao

if she stops breaking freeze then she is a good unit

who confirmed it btw

[open spindle]

She’ll do better once her other bugs are fixed, namely, permanently having Sakura’s attack debuff if you have sakura placed, she never uses her own attack, which is a problem

[open spindle]

Leni and I wanna say it was the one who has Sukuna in their name

[slow zealot]

idk the meta of this game is to slave away in portals get gogeta and then roll until you get monarch cuz he is like 3x better than any other dps

goatkuna yeah

[open spindle]

On paper if you fix her bugs, AGAIN Salter is only 10-20K behind in dps, depending on your sakura’s spa

She takes 2 unit slots, but sakura is a goated support

[slow zealot]

im kinda sad the slow circle idea got wasted on saber ngl i wish a unit with more support capabilities got it

whats salter max dps

on monarch

[open spindle]

Units can have similar passives you know…

[slow zealot]

yeah but when are we getting another slow circle unit lmao

noone knows

[open spindle]

Assuming all her passives work as intended and dont bug out as they do currently, on paper shes reaching 70-80K

[open spindle]

I mean, if the devs are goated we get Barragan 4.0

[slow zealot]

yeah she is like 20-30k behind but gogeta has mapwide teleport so idk

[open spindle]

10-20K

[slow zealot]

gogeta hits 100k i think

[open spindle]

Gogeta only reaches 90K DPS

His clone doesnt have his same atats

[slow zealot]

it only doesnt copy his passive

[open spindle]

Ir doesnt get his passive buffs

[open spindle]

50% is pretty massive my dude

[slow zealot]

yeah still he can reach 100k i think

[open spindle]

I literally have done the math with a friend, and I HAVE GOGETA

He reaches 90K

Salter is only 10-20K behind and shes in a full aoe, assuming passives are fixed

Shes not beating his dps by any means, but shes still good.

Issues arise when we involve supports though cause uh

Archer

He exists

So uh

Yeah

[hot pewter]

does the dps increase with the sakura passive?

[open spindle]

I am only using Sakura for Salter in this because Salter’s dps passive only works if you have her fr

[open spindle]

Thats how she reaches 70-80K on paper.

[hot pewter]

then u have to use a support on gogeta too to make it fair imo

[orchid crystal]

Esdeath also exist.

[open spindle]

If Gogeta had a passive that full stop relied on a second unit I would use his support unit too, but theres a difference

[open spindle]

Esdeath works equally for both

[orchid crystal]

👍

[open spindle]

Archer only works for blast

[orchid crystal]

imagine 175% gogeta

[open spindle]

Well mainly for blast

[open spindle]

Honestly? She has better targets to buff, full aoe units, gilgamesh cause their abilities have the same CD and funny 2 million nuke to a boss

(If timed right Gilg can attack during Enuma with Enuma damage, basically getting 2 enuma nukes off per cd)

(So, 2 mil nuke with Esdeath)

[open spindle]

Thats the difference, i’m only having sakura placed in calcs cause thats salters passive, i aint having her corrupt anyone. i am using 5 SPA cause that’s achievable without corrupting, and also what she’ll usually have after corrupting anyways so

Its salters passive, not sakuras

It’d be like doing gogeta’s calcs but we ignore his clone

Salter as a unit is 100% linked to Sakura and we can’t change that

Sakura isnt linked to salter though

[slow zealot]

are you really sure on this

cuz i ran it back he reaches 106k

with subaru rtz

[open spindle]

THATS USING OUTSIDE BUFFS

WHAT PART OF-

sigh

[slow zealot]

were u not assuming any outside buffs?

ok does he even reach 90k then

[open spindle]

Yes

50k on himself, and 40K from the clone due to his -20% spa on active

Well, its like 58K on himself and 32, or something similar

But hes 90k

[slow zealot]

like 82k without the buffs

[open spindle]

You arent mathing clone correctly

[slow zealot]

why

[open spindle]

Me and Dis have ran this several times over

[slow zealot]

what are you assuming for the clone

im assuming nothing rn

[open spindle]

Dis is a LB player who makes the tierlists for LB

[open spindle]

Clone is basically always around 66% of his dps

[slow zealot]

bro this is third grade math i dont fucking need license and registration for this

clone gets every buff except his first passive

and clone's spa is tied to gogeta's spa because he appears everytime he attacks

[open spindle]

Yes, and his first passive

[slow zealot]

simple stuff

[open spindle]

Increases

His dps

By

33%

Relative

Its a 50% damage buff

Its 1/3rd of his damage

[slow zealot]

yes and assuming that + clone's damage as gogeta's base damage he reaches 82k

are you assuming triple maxed godly stats

[open spindle]

What are your stats

[slow zealot]

im assuming like high Z+

[opal canyon]

yeah he is so ass they couldv made him 100 times better

[open spindle]

We have perfect Z+

[slow zealot]

yea we are relative

ok what is salter's bugged dps?

she cannot be hitting near those numbers rn

[open spindle]

Oh, salters bugged dps is like 40K at most, usually around 15K cause she doesnt like to nuke

[slow zealot]

40k seems accurate

[open spindle]

And you are wrong on your math, we reach 58K dps monarch Z+ stats gogeta without clone, clone is 66% of that, aka, 38K dps. That means adding together its 96K ish DPS

[open spindle]

40K is when she actually uses her own attacks, which she stops doing after maxing her range buff for some reason

Its 15K cause she constantly eats -50% damage every attack cause she forgets she has her own spa

[slow zealot]

? i literally went ingame for this bro 😭

my math isnt wrong its literally the most straightforward shit

i copied the numbers that gogeta gave

[slow zealot]

on monarch?

[open spindle]

Yes

[slow zealot]

ok well thats just fucking wrong then

she performs badly but she isnt performing that badl

y

[open spindle]

Are you using her with 5 or below SPA sakura

[slow zealot]

p sure we used genos

before that we used fubuki

[open spindle]

Then she performs that badly, I have the video evidence where I was helping Leni higher in this chat

Search my name with media and you’ll find the videos

[slow zealot]

vs the same % boss she does like

2mill less total than saber nuking

and this is with saber freezing

so she def fisnt hittign 15k

if she hit 15k shed struggle to get the boss even half hp

[open spindle]

If she decides to nuke, which she will often decide not to, thats when she reaches the 40K DPS. But its more consistent that she chooses to keep eating Sakura Debuff attacks and never use her nuke

I have video proof shown above

[slow zealot]

i mean we ran this like 10 times w my friend i dont think we rly encountered that issue

unless it somehow triggers depending on the map

idfk

[open spindle]

Then you arent reaching 5 or below SPA on sakura somehow

Its on every map

[slow zealot]

nah max spa genos deff gets that

im p sure she js nukes normally or her not nuking doesnt make her go down that dps

[open spindle]

Hm

The videos up here

[open spindle]

Yes it does, her nukes are a large part of her DPS

One nuke deals 370K damage after including burn

[slow zealot]

shrug

[open spindle]

We leave her at full aoe for several reasons, but namely because dark excal uses her current attack aoe, so full aoe is important, and 370K full aoe as fast as she should be nuking, makes her the best anti-mobber in the game

Too bad she isnt doing that

I’m also nowhere near the only person with this issue, in bug reports you can find one thats showcasing how she just doesnt nuke at all is sakura is down on the field

Which, isnt the real issue

Its how she queues up sakura attacks, and thats why it looks like she wont nuke

Your sakura keeps queueing attacks, and the faster her spa the more queues she gets in a row before salter decides shes allowed to do anything

Most i’ve counted in a row was 37 attacks before Salter nuked, then she did 20 more attacks no nuke

If it worked like normal SPA, instead of queueing attacks there would be no issue, but that would lead to animation stacking, which they apparently didnt want her to do so much they specifically made salter unable to animation stack

Unlike every other dps in the game

[vernal night]

Which is rare..?

Only units with full AoE usually have high SPA

and we hardly get them

[agile pebble]

when fix bru 😭

[modest tinsel]

does she seriously still break cc?

[bold bramble]

dont think they changed it yet sadly

[last karma]

she still break it

[bold bramble]

b

[twin estuary]

Can yall tell me the full form of cc😭

[bold bramble]

crowd control

[twin estuary]

ah k

[modest tinsel]

Still nothing?

[bold bramble]

we either get it 4.0 or never

[agile pebble]

yea , im praying it gets fixed man , I want her to be viable for infinite runs

[open spindle]

According to Leni it isnt a bug guys

Pack it up I guess

[twin estuary]

😭😭😭why are we adding so much cc types in game

Freeze,slow,repulse, saber's slow which is completely different from normal slow,spin,petrifying gaze and what else😭😭

[hushed jungle]

I dislike Snaber Alter

[open spindle]

Amount of status effects isnt the issue, ASTD has more and manages to not make them override each other like this

[pure ivy]

what the issue

[hushed jungle]

Snaber being Snaber Altern

[slow zealot]

brother typing for the dyslexics

[slow zealot]

praying to god they rework cc bro

this shit is ass

i hope they dont think this brings more strategy to the game it js makes bruteforcing that much more effective

[agile pebble]

how in the world is this not a bug bro. Everything inside her aura of corruption circle is unable to get cc bruh , that shit ain't included in her passive or anywhere

[vernal night]

but he's right

its not a bug

[vernal night]

because it's a priority issue

so it doesnt count as a bug

[agile pebble]

prioritising a slow from a units passive over every single other units abilities and passives is wild , but wtv man

[bold bramble]

hello can we make it so it works okok?

[slow zealot]

I was right they didn't bother to fix

I'm dnoe

[vernal night]

Cuz it’s not a bug

There’s no need for them to fix it..

[slow zealot]

Yap yap bro go farm messages somewhere else

[vernal night]

that’s fine, just don’t spread misinformation

please and ty

[agile pebble]

bro salter is actually unusable , this is like as bad as yamamoto lagging every1 out , the cc break destroys runs , the lag also destroys runs , but they bother to fix yama instead of this , how is salter disabling every form of cc intentional 😭

"every enemy inside her aura of corruption is immune to any form of cc"

make that her 4th passive

[slow zealot]

worse part is

sakura js nerfs her

so sakura is better off on other units

cuz devs didnt program a separate attack

for her to do for her 2nd passive

she js randomly nerfs herself by 50% and does an attack

so she gets geeked the fuck out if sakura's spa is low

and this isnt fixed lmao

[vernal night]

?

they will fix yamma lagging lb runs

it been confirmed

they're not fixiing alter cuz its not a bug

alter is still op for worldline 🤷‍♂️

[slow zealot]

@vernal night are you aware that this exists

[vernal night]

yah ur not supposed to use sakora on her

it bugs her nuke attack

[slow zealot]

it bugs her normal too

and ur gonna be shitfaced tell me that shouldn't be fixed?

[agile pebble]

Yea , I know. That's what I said , they wanna fix yama and make him viable for inf runs but they don't wanna fix salter? what is this? And like is salter disabling all cc intentional? Atp js make it her 4th passive bruh

[boreal fiber]

Salter disabling all cc is intentional

Yama crashing your game is not intentional

Pretty easy to understand dawg

Shit ain’t rocket science

[bold bramble]

its not intentional bro XD

[alpine plover]

They said "major change on debuff" and "stacking CC". I wish salter is one of them

[bold bramble]

should be

[round birch]

my king

diavolo

might be meta again

[bold bramble]

i kinda wont change much for diavolo

[boreal fiber]

Testers been saying it’s intentional

Maybe they’ll change it tho

🤷‍♂️

[bold bramble]

ye but intentional as 'thats how ccs work in this game'

and it was shit design

said to be made by old devs

im suprised they already fixed it tho nor diavolo nor salter are broken enough to make breaking/being broken by everything justifiable

[vernal night]

"shit design"

..?

it's not that easy to rework messy code

especially when it involves priority as

[pine sandal]

Oh please for the love of god fix salter

[bold bramble]

it was shit deisng thats also why its being reworked i have no idea if its easy/hard but psure making diavolo not broken by slow isnt that hard

either way really happy they acually will do smt w it, just can hope salter is included

[fluid osprey]

make dark Excalibur always full aoe !!🔥🔥🔥

[slow zealot]

Idc what they do about this just make diavolo good lmao

[round birch]

real

[agile pebble]

CLEARLY WASNT LMFAO THEY FIXING THAT SHIT UP , also if it was intentional why didn't they just put it in her passive , 😂 if it was intentional she'd be worse than fucking naruto for inf lb runs

maybe it was intentional , just an overall shit cc system

[vernal night]

shit cc system?

its just a priority issue

[agile pebble]

yea

and the priority issue

is SHIT

dia gets fucked by sasuke stun /croc slow

and salter

fucks every single cc in the ass

😭

[vernal night]

I still don't know how is it shit

slow/stun are meant to have more priority

[agile pebble]

yea , and coz of that , so many other ccs dont even work properly , in fact every single other one

[ashen quiver]

just got saber and sokora in one run 🔥

both in the same run*