Make Alucard The VAMPIRE bleed longer

[split karma]

But that still does not change the fact lancer is better for regen enemies

[silk cobalt]

lemme show you their damage side by side, and the fact you said this when you acknowledged alucard is running tournaments is crazy

[gusty thicket]

I wanna see a screenshot of my message pls

[silk cobalt]

lancer is circle aoe

[gusty thicket]

[silk cobalt]

choso is full

aoe

[gusty thicket]

[split karma]

You can also just set him to strongest

Or keep him line aoe

[gusty thicket]

Do u know what does lancer do?

[gusty thicket]

Just put him at spawn and change to closet man

[split karma]

You can also do that

[gusty thicket]

Not a single regen will occur

[split karma]

He has like 5 hits on first placement

[gusty thicket]

Yeah

[silk cobalt]

what about units that hide like replicate

once they die

[split karma]

You can always place another lancer?

[gusty thicket]

u got 1 lancer

The amputn u will do for 1 full aoe

Is less for 2 lancer

10k cheaper

[split karma]

😮‍💨

[silk cobalt]

why didnt I think of that im now forced to use my dps as a support and lose dps by placing him in weird locations

choso is a support

he has more placements

lowkey never needed lancers regen cancel in less extreme cases like high wave infinites or tourn

[split karma]

Just change his priority?

Oh god forbid you have to sell and replace a unit

[limpid bloom]

Yo this guy is just fucking bored bro

[gusty thicket]

u will take support over dps in higher infity?

[limpid bloom]

Can we suggest blacklist this dude

[split karma]

Yes please

[inland sequoia]

?

[gusty thicket]

Do it i will upvote

[limpid bloom]

Atp it's less of debates and more of just complaining a character isn't good as they should be

[silk cobalt]

regen is what im arguing

[gusty thicket]

lancer or choso

[limpid bloom]

Lancer

[silk cobalt]

choso covers enemies in blood

[split karma]

Subaru thread all over again

[silk cobalt]

they bleed

[inland sequoia]

For what mode

[limpid bloom]

What i was about to sau

[gusty thicket]

Infi

[inland sequoia]

Obviously both?

Idk about lancer tho

Since there might be better dps's now

Im p sure hes still usable

[limpid bloom]

I'm done talking here tho I already debated with him on everything he's bringing up and then dodged my questions

[gusty thicket]

Who

[inland sequoia]

Lancer

[silk cobalt]

you've not brought anything

[gusty thicket]

He never got out dps wdym?

[silk cobalt]

your just hard headed and are using ur group agreement to ignore everything I claim

[inland sequoia]

"might"

[split karma]

I thought he was the best boss killer?

[inland sequoia]

^

[silk cobalt]

spam more images call me braindead say another "he's ragebaiting"

[gusty thicket]

u got 2 claim choso full aoe and bleed nothing else

[inland sequoia]

Keyword might

Uh

Yeah he's still usable

[split karma]

Actually

[gusty thicket]

he better than vageta now

[inland sequoia]

So ideally both

[split karma]

Wouldn’t ragna be better for boss killing?

Or lancer still does more dmg

[limpid bloom]

I can bring up the two counter claims I had and how u only saw one sentence and dodged the rest

I'm not doing this

[silk cobalt]

I lowkey should get monarch on choso

[gusty thicket]

My lancer do like 37-39k worh all buff

[silk cobalt]

hes like a better alucard

[gusty thicket]

Do ittttt

[limpid bloom]

Your suggestion is ass, your arguments are ass, your opinions are ass

[gusty thicket]

Then u will make a new suggestion buff choso he ahh

[limpid bloom]

Just give it up

[inland sequoia]

Ragna has like 40k dps

Gogeta like 20k

Lancer is 9k

[limpid bloom]

Only mf I know that looks at alucard and UNDERSTANDS HES THE BEST UNIT IN THE GAME

[gusty thicket]

No

[limpid bloom]

AND STILL ASKS FOR BUFFS

[gusty thicket]

I dont think so

[limpid bloom]

do people not know what balance is?

[inland sequoia]

Yes?

9160 damage

[limpid bloom]

Do people think because something is rare then others, it's better?

[gusty thicket]

Oh dps

[inland sequoia]

Single target

[limpid bloom]

This shit is sad

[inland sequoia]

Im pretty sure alucard is better than rare goku

[split karma]

So that’s like 9k x3 and +75%

[gusty thicket]

[inland sequoia]

?

9k is his dps on a single target

[split karma]

Is it 9k in total?

Oh wow

That’s pretty low

[inland sequoia]

Still one of the highest

[silk cobalt]

I care about bleed

[split karma]

Well yeah

[inland sequoia]

Just low compared to 2 new units

[gusty thicket]

Go with lancer man

[silk cobalt]

yall dont think i've used lancer?

[limpid bloom]

I meant like do people think that because something is already rare, it deserves to be even more good

It's pointless

[split karma]

Just do what you want🤷

[silk cobalt]

choso is just lancer but its not permanent when they leak away from him

[gusty thicket]

70k

[split karma]

You do have free will after all

[silk cobalt]

and he's full aoe

[gusty thicket]

70k

[inland sequoia]

??

[silk cobalt]

lancer 69k

[split karma]

It’s his cost

[silk cobalt]

lancer circle aoe

[gusty thicket]

Choso takes 70k for full aoe

[inland sequoia]

Thats cheap

Lmao

[gusty thicket]

30k more damage permanent

[silk cobalt]

lancer small range like you complained about for choso

[limpid bloom]

Where u getting 30k from

[gusty thicket]

u dont need range when its permanent

[silk cobalt]

this is what his range is at 30k

[inland sequoia]

Lancer is a DPS, Choso is a crowd control

You can't compare their dps

[silk cobalt]

yea

[inland sequoia]

They're meant to be used on different situations

[silk cobalt]

thats what im saying they tryna turn a dps into a support

[limpid bloom]

Lancer is just vegita but better

[inland sequoia]

Nvm

[silk cobalt]

i've used both and no very different

[limpid bloom]

Think of Lancer like how vegita is

[silk cobalt]

lancer

choso support

[limpid bloom]

Ur more stupid then then look

Impressive

[inland sequoia]

Lancer is a DPS and a support

[limpid bloom]

Ok ngl "then then"

[inland sequoia]

Choso's a crowd control and a support

[split karma]

💔

[inland sequoia]

Can't really compare them

[limpid bloom]

All aura lost

[silk cobalt]

you compare him to vegita who has 100% damage on single target right but lancer has it at upgrade 7 i think

[inland sequoia]

Thats his rupture

[silk cobalt]

you see how different they are

[limpid bloom]

Lancer is 75%

[gusty thicket]

Same for 75

[split karma]

I thought his rupture was upgrade 1?

[inland sequoia]

No?

[split karma]

Alongside the bypassing dodge

[gusty thicket]

Uograde 7

[limpid bloom]

Ruptures is upgrade 7

[split karma]

Oh Alr

[inland sequoia]

This yeah

Rupture is upg 7

Which is why Choso is better agaisnt bleed in some modes than Lancer

[silk cobalt]

^

[inland sequoia]

Oh

[gusty thicket]

Oh my god he happy cause he got support

[inland sequoia]

Well he's a mainly a dps so it makes sense

Wait nevermind

[split karma]

I mean if you kill em they can’t regen

[inland sequoia]

?

[gusty thicket]

Well ima go to sleep u guys cooking him all night

[split karma]

They were debating on which is better for regen enemies, but if you just kill em in 1 shot they can’t regen

Which is possible in most modes expect inf

[silk cobalt]

thats a way to look at things yes

[gusty thicket]

Bruh it was a good time when there were suggestions like ban alucard he broken 😂

[inland sequoia]

Uh your not gonna one shot enemies with such little dmg in actual gamemodes

[split karma]

In which ones?

[inland sequoia]

In the modes u can Choso probably can as well

[inland sequoia]

Idk I havent played in like almost a month

[silk cobalt]

demon slayer portal

[inland sequoia]

P sure inf, paragon, portals n tournaments

[silk cobalt]

any portal with regen

those modes too

[split karma]

Ragna and Gogeta one shot in portals

And some monarch units like saber

[split karma]

Ragna, Saber and rem can one shot any enemy outside of inf

That regens

[silk cobalt]

what are u arguing btw

[inland sequoia]

Ok

This is not what this convo was about anyways

[split karma]

I’m not arguing I’m just saying they one shot regen enemies in portals

[silk cobalt]

one shot is not possible nobody got that mechanic except maybe gilgamesh

your just listing high dps units

[split karma]

Idk ragna does like 1mil dmg

Which one shot enemies

[silk cobalt]

if they face enemies with high hp and regen they wont one shot

and they will slowly be overrun

[silk cobalt]

he does 300k

[split karma]

Which is not any game mode except inf

[split karma]

In portal he does 1mil

[silk cobalt]

300k in portal

[split karma]

???

[silk cobalt]

like 80k dps

[split karma]

Full buffs

100k dps

[silk cobalt]

all buffs??

idk

[split karma]

Near 500k dmg

.x2

1 mil

[silk cobalt]

thats not 1million

[split karma]

It is after you take into account the dmg multiplayer in portals

Which is 2x

[silk cobalt]

the damage multiplier is visually added on

not hidden

so what u see IS the boosted damage

[split karma]

It hidden

[silk cobalt]

no

[split karma]

It’s not boosted

???

[silk cobalt]

holdon

[split karma]

Show proof

[silk cobalt]

winter portal with fubuki vs none winter portal

lowkey done arguing Im forced to show proof and effort while yall do nothing

[split karma]

I can’t get on the game

[split karma]

No ragna buff is visually added on

I know that

I’m saying the dmg multiplayer from skins

[quaint terrace]

it is about doubled in portals

visually

[split karma]

I know

But the skin dmg buff is visually shown?

[quaint terrace]

nope

[split karma]

That’s what I was saying

😮‍💨

[quaint terrace]

how is this post still up

I assumed this guy would've closed it out of shame

[split karma]

He’s a bit silly

[quaint terrace]

2200 comments and 5 stars

[split karma]

Now check the dmg with indicator on in portals

His dmg will be doubled

[split karma]

He thinks he’s right

He said some analogy with him being Jesus

💀

[quaint terrace]

"buff the best unit in the game because, because.... idk!"

[split karma]

He wants it buffed cause Choso has a more reliable bleed for regen

Oh no!

[quaint terrace]

😭

.

bro's response was "do I give a fuck"

[limpid bloom]

Mindless drone

He will keep at this and nothing will happen

[silk cobalt]

what skin

[silk cobalt]

wym idk

1. choso 2. alucard 3. beam, all Im doing is comparing bleed

all 3 have blitz

[marble cipher]

@atomic dragon just close this pointless post

[quaint terrace]

Ur post is already denied lil bro

[inland sequoia]

beam

[split karma]

The buff from skins in winter portal Wym?

Like for currency and dmg buff

It shows in the bottom left

[wary current]

make the meta unit even more meta?

[silk cobalt]

sukuna bleeds better/ as good as choso

3x regen

[fathom mica]

What sukuna has bleed nowm

[silk cobalt]

yes

[fathom mica]

What is it on the update?

[silk cobalt]

yes

[silk cobalt]

sukuna has the ability to buff bleed

and he bleeds now

and he stops regen

[steel rapids]

he losses bleed

[silk cobalt]

and gains burn

but these things still matter

[steel rapids]

which has no other effect other than dmg

[silk cobalt]

his full aoe although lower in range than alucard is slightly cheaper

can they just remove alucards bleed atp

add it to his total dps

or give him immunity to stun

[silk cobalt]

his cheap full aoe might be a reason to use him over choso

but choso is full aoe at full upgrade and he loses bleed in later upgrades so idk

[inland sequoia]

no way

My goat is finally decent

💔

[silk cobalt]

gonna make another suggestion like this again but this time word things better so people dont attack me

theres no way alucard is the worst bleed applicator in the game

theres no way

[inland sequoia]

I mean thats not really what he was made for

His bleed is extra dmg

Just like burn is

[silk cobalt]

so hes a dps

[inland sequoia]

No

He's a support/crowd control

One of the highest full aoe dps

And wounded

The best status effect in the game

[silk cobalt]

I just wish he bled more. I'm gonna be honest if I didnt have monarch on alucard I wouldnt use him outside of tournaments or inf

[inland sequoia]

His bleed is just extra dmg

If u want bleed u got Choso

Or just use Lancer

To stop regen

[silk cobalt]

choso was powercrept (partially) by a unit that can access full aoe faster than him and bleed like him

[inland sequoia]

Sukuna?

[silk cobalt]

yes

[inland sequoia]

Well then just use Sukuna

[silk cobalt]

yeah ik but people here were complaining that they cared about choso being replaced

[inland sequoia]

He's a decent dps

[silk cobalt]

and now hes replaced

[distant hull]

sukuna also has short bleed no?

[silk cobalt]

its constant

[brisk escarp]

isn't he one of the oldest units though?

[silk cobalt]

its strange

[brisk escarp]

it makes sense that he was power crept

[inland sequoia]

Alucard?

[distant hull]

eh

dont think so tho

[brisk escarp]

gojo is already starting to get powercrept too

[brisk escarp]

choso

[inland sequoia]

💔

[silk cobalt]

starting

[brisk escarp]

give it 4-5 more updates and he won't be good

[inland sequoia]

So 10+ updates for him to be powecrept

[brisk escarp]

yes

in total

which is why I said starting

[inland sequoia]

Sukuna is also an old unit tho

[silk cobalt]

it is

[inland sequoia]

Upd 1.25

[brisk escarp]

yes

sukuna is getting something similar to saber

at least I think

[inland sequoia]

I hope not

It sucks

[silk cobalt]

this is my test where I use a dps to damage a 3x regen enemy and then delete them when the boss gets hit by bleed, he was able to make it seem like the regen wasnt even there

[silk cobalt]

30k sell price

[inland sequoia]

?

[inland sequoia]

Wym by this

[inland sequoia]

What does that have to do with what I said

[inland sequoia]

^ ?

[silk cobalt]

you said saber alter sucks

[distant hull]

ur right 😮

atlest with blitz

[inland sequoia]

No?

I don't even know what she does 💔

[silk cobalt]

nvm

[silk cobalt]

try a non spa trait

[brisk escarp]

turned into a new unit

[inland sequoia]

@silk cobalt see

Fym

Not related to how good she is

[distant hull]

traitless doesnt cut it psure

[inland sequoia]

Thats why I said it sucks

[brisk escarp]

what

[silk cobalt]

lemme see

[distant hull]

accually dont think it matters realistically mb

choso is more dmg and if u wanna use sukuna for bleed he is only viable as cheap full aoe buffing alucared

[silk cobalt]

see?

alr

[distant hull]

but usually u will be able to max atlest 1 choso alongside other units

[steel rapids]

except you have to make a loss if u want to use sukuna as bleed

[distant hull]

which makse him propobly better even with 15% bleed buff or smt

would be very specifi situation for sukuna to be better i guess

need high regen and very fast scaling enemies

[steel rapids]

theres barely any siutations where hes better

[distant hull]

he can be replacement tho

[silk cobalt]

cheap full aoe that bleeds

[distant hull]

for sukuna propobly worth to take or smt

[steel rapids]

and then falls off right after since thats all he can do

[distant hull]

or atlest viable option then its just good buff(which it was anyway)

[steel rapids]

choso is a full aoe with good damage that bleeds

[distant hull]

cheap option to remove regen + make alu buff 100% uptime

• buffs alu dmg, but is it even better than haruka or croc, and choso instead of diff dps

[silk cobalt]

what

dealing with regen cheaply is not a fall off

wait do u mean upgrading him more?

why would I

[steel rapids]

he becomes dead weight on your team in gamemodes

all situational ofc

in boss rush for example if your using him for cutting off bleed choso is just better in terms of beating ht ebos rush

[distant hull]

2x farm, sukuna, alucard, lancer, gojo
2x farm, choso, alucard, lancer, gojo

which team better for sukuna boss?

propobly sukuna one no?

[honest gazelle]

choso always

oh lancer

depends on the traits ig

[silk cobalt]

first

[chilly belfry]

traitless

[inland sequoia]

?

😭

[honest gazelle]

i forgot

[chilly belfry]

thats fun question

[distant hull]

sukuna is traitless, but thats propobly only time its gonna be better to bring sukuna ngl

[honest gazelle]

im stupid

[chilly belfry]

you need dps in that team

[distant hull]

still w buff

[chilly belfry]

^

[distant hull]

gojo aoe lancer boss killer, sukuna bleed alu alu

[silk cobalt]

he doesnt need blitz

[distant hull]

7s does not do 100% bleed ...

idk what u did

even 11% spa wasnt enough

but eth/monarch will cuz it psure

also since its alucard suggestion will just say that alucard is good as he is if he had 100% bleed that would make him 2x better or even more

[silk cobalt]

I think they should remove it ngl

and add it to his visible dps

[inland sequoia]

?

[silk cobalt]

the fast ticks he does

add to his visible dps

[placid lodge]

bro

sukuna is

120%

bleed

ur telling me thats not enough for u?

[inland sequoia]

What?

[inland sequoia]

Thats Alucard's bleed

[wooden sandal]

is it as good now

with the nerf

[sharp crane]

esdeath doesnt buff the other unit she buffs herself

[hazy harness]

Being itadori he has monarch boost , does 25k DMG 4s spa

Bring*

I personally just use Julia's and choso to solo sukuna

[silk cobalt]

yes

[wooden sandal]

W thats cool

[inland sequoia]

[steel rapids]

because its not what hes made for dawg

[silk cobalt]

then its dumb as shit

he's a vampire

[steel rapids]

it is what it is

far too late to change it

[silk cobalt]

they added burn to fuga

i think they can def change this

[inland sequoia]

No

[steel rapids]

except that doesnt negatively impact any other units

[inland sequoia]

Sukuna was nerfed cuz he was extremely underwhelming for how hard to get he is. On release he also missed Burn and Burn cuz the old balancing team didnt want to add it even tho Sukuna literally has flames

Alucard is the best unit in the game

Huge difference

Wont happen

[silk cobalt]

sukuna is a cheaper full aoe that choso

[inland sequoia]

Any sort of early game utility is pretty useless

Just like Saber's repulse

Your just missing out on so much dmg

[silk cobalt]

he's good for modes with limited waves

like paragon

or worldlines

[inland sequoia]

Also their best traits are monarch, so ideally that wouldnt even be an option

You NEED to upgrade them

[inland sequoia]

Like every other unit 🤯🤯

[silk cobalt]

im using him as support

[steel rapids]

like i told you that is not as good as being able to max choso and have full aoe

[silk cobalt]

sukuna buffs alucard

he uses his own buff from bleed

[steel rapids]

buffing a unit that is meant to buff other units?

[silk cobalt]

its less cost

[steel rapids]

kinda just getting diminishing returns

[steel rapids]

for signficantly less damage

[inland sequoia]

Alucard's one of the best crowd dps tho

He's not just purely a support

[silk cobalt]

you could prolly place 3 sukuna and upgrade to full aoe and get the same range and application as choso in full aoe

[peak osprey]

Sukuna's legit just a replacement for Alucard if you need cheap full-AOE bleed

[steel rapids]

its diminishing returns

[inland sequoia]

It isnt a replacement?

[silk cobalt]

yeah hes a f2p alucard

[steel rapids]

he i NOT a f2p alucard

[inland sequoia]

Alucard was never intended to work that way thats why his bleed sucks

[steel rapids]

alucard i league better in the buffing department

[peak osprey]

if you need cheap full-AOE bleed

[inland sequoia]

He's not replacing anything

[inland sequoia]

Yeah I just said it

[silk cobalt]

ppl like alucard for his early and cheap full aoe and that he has wounded adding to his dmg, sukuna has wounded but for bleed and now he bleeds making him good

[steel rapids]

nobody is using alucard for bleed

[silk cobalt]

cuz it sucks

that why I want it changed

[inland sequoia]

Yeah, like burn

It's just extra damage

[steel rapids]

to let other units be useable

[silk cobalt]

what units

choso?

[honest gazelle]

lancer

[steel rapids]

let be deadass now im not bothering to rock ssukuna or choso if alucard demolishes them in every department

[steel rapids]

^ a third option

[silk cobalt]

isnt he a support

[peak osprey]

Wish I can say that if I actually had Alucard

[steel rapids]

he has solid dpss while being the BEST support

[honest gazelle]

alucard isnt getting this anyways since he needs a flaw to make other characters usable

[inland sequoia]

"he buffs himself so he's good" ?

[silk cobalt]

yes

its a dps increase

[honest gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/soyonagasaki-gif-12027096825525371874

[silk cobalt]

alucard has this also

[inland sequoia]

Just getting a dps increase doesnt make u good tho

[inland sequoia]

But it applies for all units

[silk cobalt]

hes like alucard now

[inland sequoia]

Sukuna only buffs bleed by 20%

Thats ALL he does

[honest gazelle]

not even close

are you even reading the passives

[silk cobalt]

and wounded is just that same multiplier but for all damage

[honest gazelle]

buffing bleeds give like no dps

[inland sequoia]

Correct

Not all units have bleed

[honest gazelle]

since lets take for example a unit does 10k dmg

if 35% bleed

[inland sequoia]

And ur only using 2 that actually bleed

[honest gazelle]

3.5k

the 20% cleave buff

would give what

700 extra damage?

[silk cobalt]

yeah but im not using alucard in tournaments cuz he bleeds or applies wounded its cuz of his cheap full aoe and good range

[honest gazelle]

thats what he is intended for

whats the issue here

[steel rapids]

bro what?

[peak osprey]

-# damn if only the devs added another fucking unit that can apply wounded

[silk cobalt]

I just want more bleed

[silk cobalt]

how u do this

[inland sequoia]

Yeah its negligible

[honest gazelle]

wouldnt be full aoe to make alucard usable

[steel rapids]

your telling me your not using the unit that applies a 20% damage buff ???

[silk cobalt]

yeah cuz u need another bleed to use it

he doesnt proc it himself

[inland sequoia]

Your using Alucard cuz of wounded fym

[honest gazelle]

alucard does well on how own for wounded

[steel rapids]

place another alucard

[silk cobalt]

not in tournaments where teams and supplies are limited

[inland sequoia]

?

[steel rapids]

yes you are

[silk cobalt]

still fading compared to choso who only needs one placement

[honest gazelle]

he was used for literally almost all tournaments up until now

[inland sequoia]

You said ur using him anyways

[steel rapids]

hes been meta in tournament

[inland sequoia]

Just for the wrong reasons

[steel rapids]

choso doesnt give u a 20% damage buff bro

[silk cobalt]

if the tournament is easy and i can get to higher waves im bringing choso and a good full aoe dps

[peak osprey]

did I deadass just get timed out for this??

[silk cobalt]

but if its short im bringing alucard

[silk cobalt]

lol

[honest gazelle]

alucard needs a flaw otherwise we cant have other characters who bleed, whats the point of having choso if alucard already did this? whats the point of using lancer when alucard is so much cheaper to sell and get to full aoe again?

[inland sequoia]

аа

[peak osprey]

Nah we just need another unit that can apply wounded

[silk cobalt]

but he's legit the lowest bleed applicator

it makes no sense

[steel rapids]

we really dont

[honest gazelle]

as i said, this unit wouldnt be full aoe

[inland sequoia]

Why?

[honest gazelle]

as i said, he needs a flaw

[silk cobalt]

cuz he's a vampire he's a 1/24k chance

[inland sequoia]

And he bleeds
Hes the best unit in the game

[peak osprey]

There shouldn't be a mechanic like Wounded that's exclusive to a 1 in 25,000 unit

[silk cobalt]

they released so many flawless units in fate I dont think what im asking for matters much

[steel rapids]

i really just think alucard needs a pity

[honest gazelle]

lancer is expensive to get to upg 7

thats a flaw

[inland sequoia]

Yeah

[elder crater]

yes pls 900k down without him

[inland sequoia]

Terrible game design

[peak osprey]

It could be circle-AOE and that unit would be meta

[silk cobalt]

30k is not expensive LMAO

[honest gazelle]

not really

[inland sequoia]

Thats below the average

The pity would be way higher than that

[honest gazelle]

it is compared to alucard

[peak osprey]

Wounded is a permanent debuff, right?

[honest gazelle]

no

[silk cobalt]

what??

[peak osprey]

That could also work

[honest gazelle]

lancer only getting the thing he is best for at upg 7 is a flaw and u cant deny that lmao

u cant just place him down like alucard or choso

[silk cobalt]

cheap 30k cost to stop regen forever you calling a flaw

yall are reaching sometimes

[silk cobalt]

u gotta upgrade to full aoe with those too

[honest gazelle]

also AOE, alucard is still better than him on upg 5 i'd say

[honest gazelle]

not for choso, my choso inf bleeds at placement

[silk cobalt]

yea but its single target

[steel rapids]

no its not

[honest gazelle]

ur not getting 100 enemies first 5 waves

[silk cobalt]

you know what I mean

[peak osprey]

Gilgamesh and Archer would like a word

[silk cobalt]

then a mode u are what u doing fr

[honest gazelle]

😭

literally

[silk cobalt]

gilgamesh bad?

[low panther]

BUMP

BUMP

[inland sequoia]

Hes mid

[low panther]

Sam

[honest gazelle]

you really dont know anything about the game man 😭

[inland sequoia]

Yo

[low panther]

Check the floor im at

[silk cobalt]

I still said "so many" and the fact u list two flawed doesnt really discourage that

[silk cobalt]

I used gilgamesh to tinytask fate bossrush so i rlly didnt know

[peak osprey]

Gilgamesh is only good in a select few teams

[honest gazelle]

gilgamesh loses dmg for every unit in his range

units that arent saber or ishtar iirc

[silk cobalt]

not that bad ngl

[honest gazelle]

😭

[silk cobalt]

his dps for me is still like 8k

[honest gazelle]

hes only used in boss rush mainly

[peak osprey]

I find it amusing how Ragna pairs really well with Gigglemesh

[silk cobalt]

cuz he one placement

[peak osprey]

pretty much

[silk cobalt]

rlly dont see the problem with making alucards bleed have more uptime

[gusty thicket]

O

No

[silk cobalt]

it would boost ur dps and lower cost of bringing a support

[gusty thicket]

Noo

[peak osprey]

Rather not make a busted unit more busted

[silk cobalt]

why tho

they have released so many atp

saber gojo lancer

the goats

[peak osprey]

Because you can only pull him on a blue moon

[silk cobalt]

what would one more do

[silk cobalt]

yeah this is true but it doesnt feel good to finally beat all odds getting him and he cant help u in demon slayer raid

he is good

[peak osprey]

Bro

[silk cobalt]

I understand this

I just want more uptime

[inland sequoia]

He can

[peak osprey]

Being able to allow all towers deal 1.2x more damage to wounded enemies is enough

[silk cobalt]

not in portals sadly

[inland sequoia]

Then just use other units

Why do you think there are other units

[silk cobalt]

you got the solution for everything we should make u prez

[inland sequoia]

One unit beating every single mode is bad game design

[peak osprey]

also regen on portals isn't that big of an issue

[silk cobalt]

but a bleeding unit losing to regen is like a wolf losing to a sheep

[silk cobalt]

hell nah

u capping

[inland sequoia]

?

He's not a bleeding unit really

[silk cobalt]

unless ur talking about planet namek

[peak osprey]

revitalize and elemental reactions are really whats screwing you over big time

[inland sequoia]

Thats not what he was made for

[silk cobalt]

yes and this is why its flawed why im talking about this

[inland sequoia]

It isnt flawed tho

[silk cobalt]

this is true

revitalize is easy to get past

u just needa not bring a full aoe

get single targets so they dont kill mobs

[inland sequoia]

how is it flawed 💀

[peak osprey]

im trying to get MVP rewards 😭

[silk cobalt]

h

[honest gazelle]

vampires suck blood, the bleed it gives is minimal as the vampire gets all the blood and its fast

peak thinking

[inland sequoia]

?

[silk cobalt]

he bleeds

[inland sequoia]

Yeah

What about it

[honest gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255541150144532571/1316155155808518234/ezgif-7-5875e47d1e.gif

[silk cobalt]

his wounded condition needs bleeding

no?

[inland sequoia]

Yes

[honest gazelle]

and this only doesnt get applied for like 1 or 2 ticks

😭

[silk cobalt]

so its flawed by him not being able to procc his wounded ability for long, and you'd need another support (100% uptime bleeder) like choso or sukuna to activate it

[peak osprey]

Alucard this, Bleed damage that. Watch Illya deal 600K damage to an enemy in a second

[silk cobalt]

is monarch good on her

[peak osprey]

yeah I can see monarch making Berserker more consistent

[honest gazelle]

wow a character needing another character to reach its full potential

where have i seen this before

😭

[silk cobalt]

a support unit needs another support to use his own ability

[honest gazelle]

hes good alone, you dont really have to go the extra mile and have another support

[silk cobalt]

shoulda saved up gems for her

got lazy

[honest gazelle]

unless you're doing a hard gamemode which lets be honest theres only tournament and paragon (rip)

[peak osprey]

One thing I'll say about her active ability is that because of how jank the tracks are in this game, it'll take some time to get used to placing berserker in the areas you want him to be in

[silk cobalt]

i use medea so I know the pain of summoning

[peak osprey]

Like Namek's easy to consistently place summons on

[silk cobalt]

split paths in fate mansion make no sense

wish u could control where it goes

[peak osprey]

I believe you'll have better control over Illya

[placid lodge]

liya is trash

even with monarch

[peak osprey]

You’re not using her properly then

[placid lodge]

u need monarch

not eth

[peak osprey]

You really don’t

[placid lodge]

yes u do

[peak osprey]

You really don’t need monarch on her to kill boss enemies.

You sound like you suffer from having skill issue

[placid lodge]

ngl I don't like the way berserk attacks

make him attack when he's close to the enemy not based off his master's spa

[peak osprey]

That’s lowkey the only problem with him. otherwise, Illya’s on par with Lancer when it comes to Single-target damage output

[twin dragon]

If alucard were to do same amt of bleed as choso, it just basically a hate response by the players who don't have him. Alucard has-early full aoe, wounded infliction, bleed... Not to mention an ability that far outclasses anything choso can do

[twin dragon]

Let choso be better at bleed atleast, until we get another bleed unit

[silk cobalt]

they made sukuna a cheap full aoe bleed

okay I'll wait for a mythic to powercreep choso

then make this suggestion again

[twin dragon]

Yes, that's what I'm saying

Let's wait till another mythic bleed is out, then this suggestion would be alot more sense and relevant

[limpid bloom]

@silk cobalt

hey

wamted to pop in

shiny alucard

afte 2 mgems

[fluid jewel]

shut yo bum ahh up and bump

[limpid bloom]

Nah bro

I'm sigma

Sigma sigma boi sigma boi

[fluid jewel]

shiny alu = not sigma, real og's use base form alu

[signal yarrow]

i would prefer sukuna

[gusty thicket]

Sigma is the new gender in lgbt community lamo

[warm fossil]

There wud be no reason to get other bleed units if u make alucard this op lolll

He's already good gang,sukuna will be bad if u make Alu do perma bleed

[silk cobalt]

WWW

[silk cobalt]

less range

so less dps

and his final upgrade isnt full aoe

[signal yarrow]

i got monarch on him

he does 43k with haruka rin buff

plus 20% more dmg from bleed

plus his bleed

[signal yarrow]

in full aoe upgrade i mean

[limpid bloom]

Also I see what u mean now @silk cobalt

After using him a little

Doesn't apply alot of bleed

[inland sequoia]

Bro

2679 message is crazy

[peak osprey]

Sukuna’s more or less just a substitute if you don’t have Alucard

don’t get why someone who choose Sukuna over Alucard unless they want better GDPS

[warm fossil]

Sukuna perma bleeds in his full aoe attack tho

And it's easy get to the upgrade

So he's most prolly gonna be used in modes like paragon with insane regen, and he was a must have for last tournament aswll

This is the problem discussed with alucard, he does not perma bleed, but even without this, alucard is more than solid

[peak osprey]

tbh Sukuna and Alucard are on par with one another when it comes to stopping regen. If you’re having trouble allowing enemies to regen once or twice in between attacks, either your loadouts not good or enemy scaling is too high

[silk cobalt]

sukuna stops regen better than alucard

and he buff alucards bleed too making him a better partner than choso

[warm fossil]

wdym on par?

Alucard's bleed is not permanant, the enemies can regen twice within he performs the next attack,which gets diabolical when the regen rates are high,for example in paragon. whereas with sukuna,enemies cannot regen untill they get out of his range

There are certain times where u can perma bleed with alucard,but it requires INSANE timing, u will have to place all 3 alucard's with the full aoe form and blitz/ethereal on him

So its js better to use sukuna

[split karma]

Or you can use the goat lancer

[peak osprey]

atp 1-2 ticks of regen isn’t much unless enemy scaling is too high

[split karma]

Yeah, scaling is to high in paragon

Which is what snoopy pfp was referring too

[silk cobalt]

why are we jumping over things

he said alucards bleed is bad but your tryna replace it with a better unit when he's just solely focused on alucard

[split karma]

I just like lancer

Didn’t even read what he said

[warm fossil]

meh yea but there r chances that he misses a couple of enemies,which was absolutely diabolical last tournement, bcuz each of the enemies had like 100 mil hp and it was revitalize,so ur essentially ded if u miss only,which is not possible with sukuna

[warm fossil]

scaling gets insanely high at stages yea

paragon,tournaments etc

[silk cobalt]

what were they thinking

I will be testing if sukuna is still a good bleed later on

he's like alucard but he stuns also

Make Alucard The VAMPIRE bleed longer

[signal yarrow]

which unit is that

[warm fossil]

Kisake

[warm fossil]

Walmart alucard tbh

[silk cobalt]

H

Well well well

Bump

[split karma]

[pulsar badger]

ok buff alocard now

below 20k dmg at max is crazy

nvm