Make Alucard The VAMPIRE bleed longer

[limpid bloom]

pretty sure gilgamesh with buffs does nearly equal dmg to a unbuffed monarch alucard

but thats not even alucards thing

hes a buffer

[silk cobalt]

alucard can damage as well as support

[limpid bloom]

wounded makes him top 5

hell like 2-3

[limpid bloom]

yeah... but not as much as a dps..

hes a support mainly but can be a sub dps

[hazy harness]

ethereal choso more dps than ethereal alucard

[limpid bloom]

now read what i said

you ignored it

[silk cobalt]

I've seen alucard melt units in tournaments

[limpid bloom]

ere

read

[limpid bloom]

because hes meta

always will be

now answer my questions

[silk cobalt]

which

[hazy harness]

why dont you use alucard ?

[limpid bloom]

by playing the game

[limpid bloom]

replied to it

[hazy harness]

also the devs dont want alucard to be a bleed unit

like choso

they are looking for fire / bleed teams

[silk cobalt]

"a rare unit shouldn't be more powerful then a mythic." I cringed

[limpid bloom]

alucard owner alright

continue reading

or ju st delete the post

actually

yea

just delete the post actually

[hazy harness]

yes

[limpid bloom]

this shit is pointless

[hazy harness]

but seriously imaketisaccountfofun

watch interviews

of the devs

before making suggestions

[limpid bloom]

my ego could never let me take several hits like this and still wanna keep talking

[hazy harness]

theres some stuff u should know

[brisk escarp]

Alucard is the easiest rare unit to obtain considering you get 30k gems per day by farming infinite

[hazy harness]

that they wont add

[limpid bloom]

how can you be debunked like 4 times

[hazy harness]

for ur good

[inland sequoia]

That would take months

Without a guaranteed to get him

[brisk escarp]

1 month on average

lol

[limpid bloom]

played since release

[hazy harness]

1500 = 1 , 24000 x 1500 = 36000000 gems

sorry

[silk cobalt]

mayflys last longer than alucards bleed ". His bleed is fine," (space) "you have him monarched that your unable to do good bleed." (L you have monarch L cost effective) One choso with bleed is better than 3 alucards with bleed I've tested it my self chosos sustain is instant

[limpid bloom]

what i gotten during this time

[hazy harness]

12000000 cuz its 500 gems

[brisk escarp]

why did people say 1m gems on average?

[hazy harness]

not 1500 gems

[brisk escarp]

oh

yeah, that makes sense

[hazy harness]

W

[limpid bloom]

not w

i gotten

so many godlies

so many shinies

[brisk escarp]

are you F2P

[limpid bloom]

so many mythic traits

[inland sequoia]

Not a single good monarch 💀

[limpid bloom]

no alucard after 1.8m gems

[limpid bloom]

semi

[limpid bloom]

yep

[inland sequoia]

All your good units got eth

[brisk escarp]

godlies are apparently 1/1000

[inland sequoia]

Lmao

[limpid bloom]

every good dps there?

eth

its sad

[hazy harness]

u can play with someone that has alucard

[limpid bloom]

i even have a picture of me telling my friend

i would get eth

[hazy harness]

only one alucard is needed

[limpid bloom]

on my gilgamesh

[brisk escarp]

my brain just had an aneurysm

[limpid bloom]

and i fucking did

[hazy harness]

isnt that right

[limpid bloom]

thats how bad it is

[hazy harness]

when doing leaderboard

[brisk escarp]

I did too dw

I have 4 ethereals and 0 monarchs

[limpid bloom]

8 eths

5 monarchs

sukuna my only good unit

[hazy harness]

1 monarch , 1 dead eye 1 solar

[silk cobalt]

ethereal not bad (I'm coping)

[hazy harness]

im broke

[brisk escarp]

gilgamesh is trash without monarch

[inland sequoia]

Hes so bad 💔

[limpid bloom]

underrated ngl

compared to new units?

def bad

[silk cobalt]

trash is crazy

[limpid bloom]

but hes like

[inland sequoia]

Overrated

[limpid bloom]

the only usuable

???

[hazy harness]

my best units
saber sjw diego gojo choso

[limpid bloom]

OVERRATED??

ok bro

[brisk escarp]

he's pretty much a much worse version of gilgamesh

[hazy harness]

for inf*

[inland sequoia]

Uh true

[hazy harness]

i need archer

[inland sequoia]

Gilgamesh isnt that good either lmao

[hazy harness]

and diavolo

[limpid bloom]

hes my only usable dps unit i have thats eth

if hes not monarch

hes garbo im pretty sure

[hazy harness]

and alucard...

[limpid bloom]

which i can get

[brisk escarp]

he's really good with monarch

[inland sequoia]

Correct

[silk cobalt]

sukuna is a more flawed unit than alucard hes a unit that buffs bleed but he doesnt even bleed nor burn

[limpid bloom]

hes literally a support if hes not monarch

[silk cobalt]

so its weird

[limpid bloom]

yo

why are you talking rn

"more flawed unit than alucard"

[silk cobalt]

oh sorry sir

[hazy harness]

i tried to explain

to him

[limpid bloom]

applies that

alucard

is flawed

LOL

[brisk escarp]

isn't bleed/burn damage trash in this game too?

[limpid bloom]

just take this post down bro

[silk cobalt]

he's flawed yes

[brisk escarp]

it doesn't stack with alucard's passive right?

[limpid bloom]

@inland sequoia this guy isn't real

[hazy harness]

i hope some mod or smth checks this post

[inland sequoia]

?

[limpid bloom]

he says alucard is flawed

[silk cobalt]

bro tryna get people on his side so bad

[hazy harness]

man if me and @limpid bloom werent bored would this post be so big

[inland sequoia]

@silk cobalt what's ur top 10 best units rn

[hazy harness]

how many messages ?

[silk cobalt]

I've given my reasons as to why

[silk cobalt]

in my account?

[hazy harness]

did we send

[limpid bloom]

and i ralready debunked them

ur reasons

are all about

[inland sequoia]

No?

[limpid bloom]

"hes already op so balancing doesnlt matter"

ur only response

to my message

was "i cringed"

thats it

you have NOTHING else to say to me

[brisk escarp]

he was originally intended to be a bleed unit, at least I think so - to my current knowledge, but now he's pretty much just a support unit

[limpid bloom]

because there ISN'T

please

sit down for me

[inland sequoia]

Burn sucks tho

[hazy harness]

he didnt deny it

[inland sequoia]

That wouldnt save him

Same with bleed

[limpid bloom]

letting youre ego go so low for this

[silk cobalt]

wym debunked its a fact that alucard even in a group cant keep up with the demands of high regen, one choso is legit better than 3 alucard when it comes to covering blled

[limpid bloom]

is terrible

[hazy harness]

thats exactly why he thinks we gotta buff alocard

[silk cobalt]

burn is so shit

[hazy harness]

terrible suggestion

[silk cobalt]

it does nothing

[inland sequoia]

He's not meant to stop regen

[limpid bloom]

his main thing isn't burn tho its wounded

[inland sequoia]

Lmao

[hazy harness]

terrible argument

[limpid bloom]

thats what i tell himb

but hes dumb

so

no point

anyways i waited about a hour debunking this guy

[silk cobalt]

but he's a bleed and his ability loves bleed

[inland sequoia]

It's like asking for a full aoe unit to have the highest dps

[limpid bloom]

if he still yaps

just bring up my counterpoints

by relying to it

it will shut up him

im out

[hazy harness]

and he has many choices when we tell him why his arguments are terrible but in his opinion the best choice is to ignore our words

[silk cobalt]

and he cant do it on his own

[inland sequoia]

Full aoe units are meant for crowd control, dps units are mainly for killing bosses. You can't make a unit that does both, that'd break the game

[silk cobalt]

alucard and choso are a combo deal I dont have time to use cuz I got better dps than choso

[inland sequoia]

Alucard is good as he is

[brisk escarp]

What was the point of making sukuna harder to evolve when he's already become one of the worst units to put effort into obtaining

[inland sequoia]

Doesnt need a better bleed because thats not what he's used for

[hazy harness]

duh

[inland sequoia]

And hes already crazy good

[hazy harness]

does ur life depdn on it

are u dying ?

[brisk escarp]

GUYS I FIGURED OUT WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO DO

[silk cobalt]

IM NOT EVEN SUGGESTING A DPS INCREASE I JUST WANT A BLEED THAT DOESNT DISAPPEAR AS SOON AS IT HITS

[hazy harness]

why buff just alocard

[silk cobalt]

PLEASE UNDERSTAND

[hazy harness]

buff ur other units too

[silk cobalt]

PLEASE

[hazy harness]

if ur gonna complain

[inland sequoia]

I know

[brisk escarp]

THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO FUSE GOJO AND SUKUNA IN UPDATE 10

[inland sequoia]

Read what I said

Before typing

Thats not my point

[brisk escarp]

that's why he's so hard to evolve now

[hazy harness]

no way i can understand why he wants to buff alocard first out of all the other units

keep being selfish

[hazy harness]

if u want to make this game easier go play some simulator

[inland sequoia]

He's not that hard tbh

[hazy harness]

also guys

[silk cobalt]

Im saying he should be used for bleed, I get what you mean "he's not used for regen cuz his application sucks" but im saying it should be increased so he can be used for regen

[hazy harness]

its bad for health to talk with this kind of person

youre at risk

[brisk escarp]

he's one of the harder units to evolve, granted pretty much every unit in the game is EXTREMELY easy to evolve besides valentine

[hazy harness]

im warning yall

cya

[inland sequoia]

He's not meant to be used for regen tho

[hazy harness]

gn

[inland sequoia]

Gn

[inland sequoia]

His bleed is just extra damage

[silk cobalt]

[brisk escarp]

the developers already stated they weren't going to balance older units

[inland sequoia]

If he was meant to be used for regen his bleed would last longer

[silk cobalt]

fuck andrevious

those guys got paid 20k a month and quit cuz they sucked at balancing

[brisk escarp]

he implemented the same dogshit dandadan raid in anime reborn too 😹

[inland sequoia]

Who tf plays reborn anymore

💔

[brisk escarp]

tbh idk

(I'm coping after this)

[inland sequoia]

Astd x will save this genre

[silk cobalt]

okay what if I changed my stance. alucard keeps his wounded unit thing but he doesnt bleed at all but instead he gets stun immunity like igris

[inland sequoia]

🙏

[silk cobalt]

tried getting into that game I just cant

even tho the models look nice ngl

[brisk escarp]

they probably won't change him because his passive is already way too overpowered

[inland sequoia]

Dont necessarily disagree but the devs wont change Alucard or any old unit

[brisk escarp]

it's annoying, I don't have a single meta unit at level 52

[silk cobalt]

alucard is cheap full aoe this is all I know is good for him ngl

[inland sequoia]

Level 52??

Your a fucking newbie my guy

[brisk escarp]

that phsically shouldn't be possible

[inland sequoia]

What do you expect

[brisk escarp]

level 52 is still a decent amount

[inland sequoia]

Imagine you got gogeta, alucard, gojo, saber, ragna, Lancer at level 2 in this game

Its the same

[brisk escarp]

I tiny tasked for the planet namek unit and didn't get it after 200 runs with the legends potions

[inland sequoia]

Wrong

Thats not even one hour of playtime

[brisk escarp]

bro what 😭

[silk cobalt]

but you cant even equip all of them

[inland sequoia]

Your a newbie my guy

[brisk escarp]

it's like 36 hours

oh wait I forgot I summoned for light

I guess I have that

[inland sequoia]

Hold on we're talking about different games

[brisk escarp]

but I quit after I obtained him

[brisk escarp]

what game are you talking about

[inland sequoia]

Astd

[brisk escarp]

I'm talking about anime reborn

[inland sequoia]

Why

Ts sucks

[brisk escarp]

idk

it's probably the worst tower defense game out right now

at least it has trading 🤷‍♂️

although that's also bad because you can't trade bundles

[silk cobalt]

"Unsure about bringing older units back into meta, but they will be brought back via synergy" okay good ig

[brisk escarp]

they're eventually going to add fusion evoltions (maybe)

or third evoltions

[silk cobalt]

lowkey think there should be a category gamemode than allows incentivizes you to use older/ weak units

[inland sequoia]

Hell nah

[silk cobalt]

nah its peak

[inland sequoia]

They're out of meta

[silk cobalt]

shutup

[inland sequoia]

Thats all there is to it

[brisk escarp]

why does sukuna's domain look so ugly

[inland sequoia]

Your not using units from a year ago

[brisk escarp]

Imagine if it was as good as gojos

[inland sequoia]

???

[brisk escarp]

It would've been revoltionary

[silk cobalt]

they said yes to split evos

[inland sequoia]

Split evos?

[silk cobalt]

ye

like astd

[brisk escarp]

compared to the anime, it looks ugly

[inland sequoia]

?

[inland sequoia]

Uh true

[silk cobalt]

astd had split evolutions no

[inland sequoia]

No idea

[inland sequoia]

They made him so bad in game

[silk cobalt]

YOU LEGIT LOVE THAT GAME HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THIS

[inland sequoia]

Even tho he's by far the strongest in jjk

[brisk escarp]

Imagine if it had the skulls, took up the entire map, and had a chair you could sit in

[inland sequoia]

Im asking what split evos are how am I meant to know if astd had them if I don't even know what it is

[brisk escarp]

and it dealt 600% damage

sukuna had so much potential

[silk cobalt]

"paragon happened cuz of a bug and they made it a gamemode" no wonder its ass

[silk cobalt]

a unit can evolve into different paths yknow like griffith in -aa

[inland sequoia]

Don't play that game it sucks

The worst td rn

Probably

[brisk escarp]

ALSO WHY DID THEY WASTE HALF OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT TEAM ON JOGO

[inland sequoia]

Well most suck anyways

[brisk escarp]

IT SHOULD'VE BEEN SUKUNA

WHYYYY

[silk cobalt]

still never forgetting sukuna took 3 weeks to come

and he was tedious to evo and ass at once

[inland sequoia]

Everything in this game is tedious tho

[brisk escarp]

I wouldn't have minded him taking 2-3 to months to release if his domain was like gojos or jojos

[silk cobalt]

his passives doesnt make sense to me

I dont get it

to this day

[inland sequoia]

Why u care so much about something u can only use every 3 minutes

[brisk escarp]

Give him a third evoltion and my robux is yours

[silk cobalt]

why is the cd so high is it really that busted

[brisk escarp]

it would've been a cinematic masterpiece - and probably would've revoltionized tower defense games

[inland sequoia]

It sucks

Lmao

Even on release he was bad

[brisk escarp]

yeah

[silk cobalt]

ye

wonder what alter saber would be like

[inland sequoia]

There were some people saying he was good for some reason tho

[silk cobalt]

maybe its split evo

[fluid jewel]

alucard is not a vampire

[silk cobalt]

what is he

heard hes satan

[brisk escarp]

I haven't watchec the anime, what is he?

[fluid jewel]

the undertaker but has sharp teeth and likes red color

[silk cobalt]

basically vamp tho

[fluid jewel]

no he is the undertaker

[silk cobalt]

doesnt he turn that na zee girl into his servant or sum

[fluid jewel]

dont he used chokeslam on his foes?

[brisk escarp]

Now that they're adding split evoltions, PLEASE DO SOMETHING WITH SUKUNA IM BEGGING YOU

[fluid jewel]

sukuna is buns

[silk cobalt]

"Yes, Alucard is a vampire in the manga and anime series Hellsing. He's also a character in the Castlevania series." -google

alucard is a real vampire name too

[inland sequoia]

Did they confirm it

[silk cobalt]

yea

[inland sequoia]

Where

[silk cobalt]

Double evolutions are an immediate yes.

[inland sequoia]

Thats not split evolutions

[silk cobalt]

#「📣」sub-announcements

[inland sequoia]

Just double evos

[silk cobalt]

could be split

[inland sequoia]

Thats just a 2nd evo

[silk cobalt]

"No subtraits."

bro

I lowkey wanted to see it

"Turning it from 1.5k to 300 would be unfair to players who have already purchased the rerolls"

fuck typa logic is that

[inland sequoia]

??

Subtraits suck

Thats just more gambling

[silk cobalt]

interesting ngl

people love gambling

[inland sequoia]

The game is bad already why u want it to be even worse bruh

Like if it wasnt gambling itd be a cool idea

But it'll probably be gambling

[silk cobalt]

okay subtraits is more skill based traits then

it will be f2p

[inland sequoia]

Doubt theyd make it that way

This game is already full of gambling with very little skill

They said no to it anyways

[inland sequoia]

Also the fact that its easier

Doesnt make much sense

It's still tedious asf

[silk cobalt]

yea

13 hours

they think we robots bro

[inland sequoia]

Doing the same gamemode for 13 hours

So boring

Even if you do it in a span of weeks

Its mad annoying and tedious

[silk cobalt]

gogeta would take longer sadly

I shoulda complained about him first

but I knew I'd never get

[inland sequoia]

There's not even a guaranteed to get Gogeta

[silk cobalt]

yeah

[inland sequoia]

Its way worse than the rrs issue

[silk cobalt]

idk why they said "easier"

doesnt feel easier cuz they removed/ softlocked advanced mahcrows

wasnt even doing that manually

[inland sequoia]

Why u even wasting ur time playing this 💔

[silk cobalt]

cuz its fun

ngl I like afk games

do you play cookie clicker

[inland sequoia]

So you dont even play the game

Yet you somehow

Enjoy it

[silk cobalt]

its a whole different game to me ngl

the more untiny taskable a game is the more I love finding ways to cheese it by not playing

I miss ragebaiting

please come back tomorrow

🙏🏿

[inland sequoia]

Who u talking to

There were like 6 people in here

[silk cobalt]

all of u

[inland sequoia]

Uh nah

I'd debate u if it were something I find interesting

Just close this suggestion

[silk cobalt]

ur momma

[signal yoke]

hell naw bro hes way too OP alr (i dont have alucard)

[silk cobalt]

1412 comments 5 reactions

truly amazing

[pulsar badger]

70% is your comments

[limpid bloom]

Already debated him and he flopped

Only answered one of my questions and ignored the other one I asked

His entire excuse for this suggestion was literally "alucard is already op so it wouldn't matter making him even better" along with "idc about choso not being meta"

Literally just ragebait nest to not fall for it

[split karma]

that is very nonsensical

[silk cobalt]

"and he flopped"

[silk cobalt]

why do yall care about an easy accesible unit being slightly less meta than a 1/24k rarity unit

alucards bleed is pathetic

he cant hold up with any regen

choso or a legendary bleed unit need to help him cuz they have higher sustain

people bring up his "oh he has wounded tho" but he cant even use it

if you want that 20% extra damage u need choso

or your other damage unit will just miss the wounded icon

monarch should NOT be a crutch and I've used alucard 3x and that shit is NOT enough its like trying to clog a leak with something porous

[silk cobalt]

3x alucard for the purpose of bleed is inpractical even

thats more cost

3 x 2k = 6k and add whatever your spending to get his first full aoe 3 times

[silk cobalt]

I dont even need multiple chosos just one in full aoe is enough for bosses and mobs

[split karma]

That’s how the unit was designed? Not every unit has to be able to do everything

[silk cobalt]

im going insane

[split karma]

😔

[silk cobalt]

"thats just how he designed" WHY WOULD I MAKE THIS SUGGESTION THEN

would you say this to people complaining about sukuna

what type of argument is that

[split karma]

Why would he need to bleed more? Just cause it’s more canon?

[silk cobalt]

bleed is so important tho

[split karma]

Why should they sacrifice balance to be more canon

[silk cobalt]

killing regen is important

[silk cobalt]

alucards bleed is like a drop of water hitting the desert sand

its non existent

legit

[split karma]

That’s honestly a good thing

[silk cobalt]

idk why he even bleeds anything

[split karma]

To make it so that you have to bring other bleed units

[silk cobalt]

WHYY?? he's a 1/24k unit

BRO

[split karma]

So?

[silk cobalt]

thats just lazy design

[split karma]

He still gives a 20% dmg buff, he does still bleed if not for very long, and does decent dps

[split karma]

How is that lazy design??????

To make him synergze with other units?

[silk cobalt]

alucard is legit a VAMPIRE and his bleed.. okay Look what if he gained better bleed when he uses his skill that would balance things I guess since you'd need to full upgrade him

[silk cobalt]

its forced its so forced

[split karma]

?????????

[silk cobalt]

lowkey in the past before I had monarch alucard

I wouldnt use him

[split karma]

What does that even mean

[silk cobalt]

I would just bring choso and some dps and farms

that was all

[split karma]

Goku is one of the strongest characters in anime… and yet he does less then 1k dmg

[silk cobalt]

what does this mean

[split karma]

Ok and?

[molten bay]

is lancer not an option

[silk cobalt]

goku is a rare unit

[split karma]

So they should just make him canon and deal 1million dps

[split karma]

This guy is mad cause alucard can’t cover the role of 3 units at once

[silk cobalt]

you are comparing a rare unit, to a secret banner unit with a 1/24k chance of getting, please stop and what we're arguing is that he does not bleed long enough for it to matter to anything

[molten bay]

bs

[silk cobalt]

what 3 unit role

all he has is cheap full aoe and then the wounded shit

which he cant even proc

[split karma]

You want alucard to bleed more so that you don’t have to bring another bleed unit… that is NOT good for the balancing of the game

[molten bay]

but thing suggestion is just stupid alucard is hard to get and hes already amazing? hes full aoe on upg 3…

[split karma]

Dmg support, Sub dps, Bleed

[molten bay]

and he bleeds

this suggestion is dogwater

[split karma]

It’s crazy how everyone is disagreeing with him yet he is to stubborn to understand

Ignorant fool

[molten bay]

word

alucard isnt meant to do everything, each unit has a specific purpose

[split karma]

Not wasting my time arguing with a wall

[silk cobalt]

"that is NOT good for the balancing of the game"

saber is a unit that has a local cooldown monarch ability and she is a support at lower upgrades and gains immunity to stun at higher upgrades

gojo is immune to ALL status ailments you can legit do the last act of demon forest with just him no monarch

LANCER cancels ALL REGEN FOREVER and its not even an ability with a cd its his attack, and its fairly cheap to obtain it

all the other fate units are also insanely meta defining but you think alucard a 14k dps with monarch will break the game when he gets a longer bleed??

[silk cobalt]

"bleed" but he doesnt bleed

this is what im saying

your all booing me but Ima die on this hill

they hated Jesus cuz he was telling the truth

[split karma]

Do I even have to explain why it’s bad for future balancing…

Cause then future bleed units will have to compete with a unit who can cover so much utility in 1 unit, choso would be near irrelevant if so.

You are comparing pure dps units not supports… supports are much harder to replace then dps

And your complaining cause a monarch alucard can’t have constant bleed?

😔

[silk cobalt]

you listed bleed like thats not what I wanted boosted

alucard doesnt feel like a bleed unit

he leaks regen enemies

[split karma]

I listed bleed cause that’s what it would be if you buffed his bleed

[silk cobalt]

oh

[split karma]

Buts it’s just dmg support/sub dps

Which is still extremely good

Since its 20%

[silk cobalt]

alucard is a support that cant use his support

[split karma]

He can?

[silk cobalt]

no

[split karma]

It just does not have much uptime

And if ur not using a monarch alucard then it has more uptime…

Who would have guessed

[silk cobalt]

choso passive is like "hit bleeding enemy 20% more damage" choso since he can sustain bleed almost instantly he's hitting that but for alucard its attack> apply buff and bleed> oh you missed it repeat

cuz his bleed is nothing

[split karma]

So is it not good that other units can depend on each other?

Alucard makes bleeding more valuable

Simple

He may not bleed much himself

But he practicality buffd any bleed units

[silk cobalt]

no its just a weird flaw in his design if they wanted real synergy they should've done something else

and its not like bleeding units become unbuffed by him

[split karma]

So sjw and igris was a flaw in design?

[silk cobalt]

they still get the 20% enemy damage buff

[silk cobalt]

that is perfect synergy

[split karma]

Ishtar and fate units were a flaw in design?

[silk cobalt]

shes a buffer

[split karma]

Then what’s the difference

[silk cobalt]

for fate

[split karma]

And alucard is a buffer for bleeds?

[silk cobalt]

he has a 20% damage buff for all types of attacks he buff bleed damage too yes

he cant use his buff he needs help for no reason

[split karma]

Ok so then he is a buffer

[silk cobalt]

that cant proc his buff yes

[split karma]

Which would require another unit aka another bleed

[split karma]

Like how Ishtar need another fate units to get a 12% dmg buff

Like how igris needs sjw for a buff

Same shit

[chilly belfry]

why do we want to make best unit in the game be even better

[silk cobalt]

I love how you say units from the same anime sharing synergy is the same as two complete different units being used together is team synergy

alucard needs outsiders to work

[silk cobalt]

crazy concept to understand

[split karma]

Why should it matter if the units from the same anime

Unit synergy is unit synergy

Crazy logic

[silk cobalt]

you legit said "oh ishtar buffs fate units oh sjw buff igris" like do you not see the theme

[split karma]

Why should unit synergy be limited to just themes?

[silk cobalt]

alucards synergy with choso is a farce. he's not using his ability of wound choso is

[silk cobalt]

you said it idk

name synergy without units from the same anime

[split karma]

Alucard and any bleed unit

[prime marlin]

more bleed ticks but less dmg

[silk cobalt]

it cant be alucard

[split karma]

Subaru, rin, fubuki and ragna

[prime marlin]

you have a point

but have you ever considered alucard is much MUCH rarer than your average new mythic unit

[silk cobalt]

yes

and alucard is already outdamaged

[split karma]

So that means he should be meta forever?

[silk cobalt]

no

he's an early release secret

buffing his bleed wouldnt do shit for the future

[ripe socket]

Alucard isn’t a dps unit so of course he will be out damaged

[prime marlin]

meta can shift easily by changing enemy mechanics

not in a way with the sbr enemies

[split karma]

For his specific niche he will be #1 forever or for a very long time time

Which is not healthy for the game

[prime marlin]

but like there can be mechanics of DoT/Debuffs on enemies lasting less

[silk cobalt]

who needs a 20% buff to enemies when the enemies just walk past your bleed alucard like a wallless prison

[split karma]

I will test rn

Alucards uptime

[silk cobalt]

dont use sandbox

[split karma]

Why not

[silk cobalt]

do a demon slayer portal

[silk cobalt]

its clean

no stakes

[split karma]

Sure

[prime marlin]

sandbox is lit for testing stuff though

[silk cobalt]

if hes just testing bleed sustain ig

okay this will be the test

spawn in a mob/ or high hp boss with regen

then damage with a normal dps unit

now let that boss leak

then follow it with alucard

and see if he heals up

[silk cobalt]

weaken the alucard so it doesnt look like the bleed is working

[split karma]

Just about to hop on testing

He has

3 seconds of uptime

1 second of downtime

0.8 seconds of downtime with supports

[silk cobalt]

huh

[split karma]

He’s already really reliable for bleed…

[silk cobalt]

what

no way

[split karma]

Solar alucard

Z stats

I don’t even know why ur complaining…

[silk cobalt]

do this in demon slayer

[limpid bloom]

Notice how low amount of stars u have

[silk cobalt]

how high was the regen

one stack?

[limpid bloom]

I already debated you and you folded

Ur just dragging this for attention atp

[silk cobalt]

I didnt fold shit

you rebuttals were stupid

[silk cobalt]

ima do this

[split karma]

2 stacks

He leaks 1 tick of regen every 3 seconds

Oh no!

[limpid bloom]

My rebuttals disproved every claim you had

[silk cobalt]

why'd you void that

[limpid bloom]

Just give this up

Even a tester said this suggestion was garbo

They know the game more then me and you combined

Anymore is just dragging

[silk cobalt]

will for this to leak

[split karma]

Why are you comparing dps????

[silk cobalt]

lets see

[gusty thicket]

Bs suggestion, i wish u get banned for this and slip on banana

[kind merlin]

To keep it balanced just make it longer with less damage

In the end its doing the same amount of damage just drawn out

[silk cobalt]

uhoh

[gusty thicket]

Bs

[kind merlin]

Its doing the same amount of damage in the end

[silk cobalt]

thats true

[gusty thicket]

Still bs

[silk cobalt]

they could do that

[kind merlin]

Alucard is still mostly early defense/support

[silk cobalt]

lets try this but with choso now

[gusty thicket]

Wt u guys smoking

[kind merlin]

Yk he has bad dps rn right?

Sorry not bad but mid compared to new units

[gusty thicket]

[kind merlin]

Even with his bleed hes starting to fall behind

[gusty thicket]

Natuto , valentine sasuke crying in corner

[gusty thicket]

Obito:

[kind merlin]

Yea js checked wiki ts ass

[placid hound]

why are we still chatting they arent changing old units they said taht

and alucard is the ebstr unit

best

[kind merlin]

?

[placid hound]

just stop begging it

[kind merlin]

Wat

[split karma]

Did we already not establish that choso is an applies bleed better?

[silk cobalt]

lets see

[split karma]

The point is that alucard can self sustain his own buff and still bleed…

[limpid bloom]

Somehow said something more intelligent then he has this entire thing

[kind merlin]

Why is CHOSO better then alucard

[gusty thicket]

there was time were alucard was up in suggestion getting banned from tournament cause he was broken now these new dudes are coming and screaming he shit

[placid hound]

lmg u only look at unit dmg

[silk cobalt]

WOW

[split karma]

For applying bleed yes, overall he is not

[limpid bloom]

I do think alucard not doing alot of bleed is weird but it's a balance issue

[kind merlin]

What else is he supposed to do as a dps 😭

[limpid bloom]

The only way

[placid hound]

doom i hate ppl like you

[limpid bloom]

It works

[placid hound]

ur so clueless

[kind merlin]

Choso does more damage cuz of his w passive

[limpid bloom]

Is if there's a balance

[placid hound]

alucard is NOT adps

[silk cobalt]

same area

[split karma]

Does he not support… 20% dmg buff

[limpid bloom]

Sub dps/support

[split karma]

With good uptime

[kind merlin]

But choso is a better suppoty then him

[split karma]

That is highly debatable

[limpid bloom]

Ok doom is just being dumb

[kind merlin]

Actually nvm im wrong

[gusty thicket]

😖 full aoe bleed early ?

[kind merlin]

Alucard is a better support cuz early full aoe

Forgot bout that

[gusty thicket]

20% buff

[gusty thicket]

Summon?

😖 all shi?

[limpid bloom]

Wounded makes him THE best support

Why do people keep on fuckijg forgetting wounded

That's his best passive

THE best passive

A flat out damage increase is insane

That's why rin is good

Shes 18% dmg

[gusty thicket]

Buddy ans my point pls

[limpid bloom]

Which is alot

The only way I'm willing to make this work

Is if alucard had longer bleed

[silk cobalt]

left choso bleed sustain vs right alucard bleed sustain @split karma what were you saying?

[limpid bloom]

But less bleed dmg

I do think a vampire having less bleed then a simple blood mani user is weird

[silk cobalt]

does a 20% damage bonus even matter for alucard in this situation

[limpid bloom]

But it's only for balance

[limpid bloom]

Mostly because choso is a actual dps while alucard is a sub dps

But I get it

[silk cobalt]

CHOSO IS DPS LOLLL

[gusty thicket]

Listen i will tell u 4 things
Early full aoe
20% buff
Summons
Almost 2x the range of choso

[silk cobalt]

BRO

[limpid bloom]

Only time I'll agree with u bro

[split karma]

I already said this 3 times but choso applies bleed better…

[silk cobalt]

goal post shifting holy shit

[split karma]

Alucard is a better unit overall cause of his support capabilities

….

[silk cobalt]

but you tested the bleed and said it was enough

[split karma]

YES ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN HIS OWN BUFF

don’t mean to be rude

[silk cobalt]

fawk no

[gusty thicket]

Mf ans my pointssss

[silk cobalt]

why were you testing his buff

[split karma]

But do you have any reading comprehension skills?

[silk cobalt]

i didnt see

[gusty thicket]

Gooo see theen

[silk cobalt]

what

[gusty thicket]

. Thissss

[silk cobalt]

reading comprehension lmao

[gusty thicket]

Keep in mind both are support units

[split karma]

🤦

[silk cobalt]

you just lied here

[split karma]

YES HE IS RELIABLE FOR BLEED

YES CHOSO IS BETTER

[limpid bloom]

Yeah I'll agree alucard compared to choso is mid

[split karma]

Do u not understand

[silk cobalt]

no he not

your tryna word it nicer

[limpid bloom]

Even i know that

[gusty thicket]

[silk cobalt]

now ima do this but with beam instead of alucard

[limpid bloom]

Alucards main support isn't from bleed

[silk cobalt]

only goal post shift

[split karma]

And this guy can’t understand that

Please

[silk cobalt]

alucard is a support unit that needs supports lol

[split karma]

He can sustain his own supports just fine???

Note the wounded stays longer then the bleed

So it has near 100% uptime

[silk cobalt]

did you not see this? if that were true the boss wouldnt heal this much

[gusty thicket]

[silk cobalt]

just reply to the thing

im arguing with 3 people I dont see everything

[gusty thicket]

[split karma]

This has got to take the cake for idiocy

[gusty thicket]

Go add 3 dps unit add 1 choso and after that add 1 alucard and see who kill it faster

Dont change there postion

They should be at same place

[silk cobalt]

huh

[gusty thicket]

If u dont this u r spouting bs and dont every make a suggestion again

[silk cobalt]

you say "He can sustain his own supports just fine" but for that to be true his bleed has to be good enough not to cause a regen tick loss

[silk cobalt]

is english ur first langauge

[split karma]

You do realize that wounded stays longer then bleed… so why would it matter if he has a second of downtime on bleed when the wounded is still there

[gusty thicket]

Nah

[split karma]

Near 100% uptime

[inland sequoia]

langauge

[silk cobalt]

now lets try beam

[silk cobalt]

no

[limpid bloom]

Beams entire thing is bleed

[split karma]

Yes

[gusty thicket]

This mf doing everything except the thing we told him

[limpid bloom]

But alucard does more dps

[silk cobalt]

wounded is applied when bleed is applied if bleed leaves wounded leaves

[split karma]

He’s actually is rage baiting

[split karma]

No it does not

Test it

[silk cobalt]

"ERM HES RAGEBAITING GRR WHY WONT HE GET IT!!"\

[split karma]

It stays on for a little longer

[limpid bloom]

Wounded stays in even after bleed leaces

[silk cobalt]

make better arguments

[limpid bloom]

Look

[split karma]

No it’s not an argument

[limpid bloom]

@silk cobalt

[silk cobalt]

no

[limpid bloom]

Only thing

That I agree with u

Since all ur other ideas

Are garbo

[split karma]

I just can’t believe you are spouting such nonsense

[limpid bloom]

Is alucard having less bleed dmg for longer bleed

But in exchange

Choso needs his bleed to be buffed

If only one unit was good for a certain thing

Then it wouldn't be balanced

It would always just be that meta unit

[silk cobalt]

CHOSO IS A CHEAP AND MORE AVAIBLE UNIT THAN ALUCARD

why do yall think he needs help

[split karma]

🤦

[silk cobalt]

why

[split karma]

Just let this die

[silk cobalt]

shutup

im doing beam now

[gusty thicket]

Leg unit

[split karma]

It’s honestly embarrassing watching this

[silk cobalt]

beam vs alucard

[limpid bloom]

And? You think that because alucard is rarer he deserves even more buffs?

Choso is a dps bleed, his main thing IS bleed

Alucard has bleed

But it's not his main thing

He has a ability

[gusty thicket]

[limpid bloom]

Wounded

And full aoe

[gusty thicket]

Dumb

[silk cobalt]

you dont think choso is a support? you know alucard and choso max upgrade damage is the same right

[limpid bloom]

Choso does more bleed and is thus a more of a dps for bleed

Alucard has wounded making him more effective with other dps units

[silk cobalt]

the bosses tilt thing is blocking it but beam is here

[limpid bloom]

He's literally a haruka rin but has some other goodies besides a flat out buff

[split karma]

My point is, alucard can bleed, and he can support and deal decent dps he is a jack of all trades. Why should he be the best at all of them? He synergies perfectly with other bleed units cause of this

Yes choso and beam are better for applying bleed but that doesn’t take away from the fact that alucard can still bleed and support which is something choso nor beam can do

You also have to take into account that his ability reduces his spa by 10% and there are no spa buffers to remedy this

[silk cobalt]

your legit goal post shifting now

[limpid bloom]

Im about to be employed what does that mean

[silk cobalt]

and im not even comparing dps

im comparing bleed sustain

[split karma]

And alucard does not need the extra bleed uptime

Yes it’s mid but he does not need it

[silk cobalt]

he does

[split karma]

He does not

[silk cobalt]

for his buff and for support

[split karma]

His buff has 99% uptime cause it lasts longer then the bleed slightly

[silk cobalt]

this is an alucard who is being told that his 20% damage bonus is good enough so he doesnt need bleed longer

[split karma]

And if you want 100% uptime just use another bleed unit

Synergy

[gusty thicket]

[gusty thicket]

get your brain checked

[split karma]

Just because the dmg is low does not mean the wounded is still not there… if wounded lasts longer then the bleed ofc the ho will be higher

?

[silk cobalt]

this is a chad choso who stops bleed complete like a goat, which one do you think would save your run more?

[gusty thicket]

It need help desperately

[silk cobalt]

just doing plain insults cuz your wrong

[gusty thicket]

u didn’t even answer to my things

How u know am wrong

[silk cobalt]

I'm talking about bleed sustain not damage wounded doesnt last longer than bleed and it doesnt really matter that is does when the 2million hp boss is healing 50k a tick

[split karma]

And we have already talked in this point, Alucard is not better then choso

[silk cobalt]

okay just reply to want you want me to see and I'll check it out

[split karma]

In terms of bleed

[silk cobalt]

you finally agree

wow

amazing

[split karma]

I’ve already been saying that

???

I’m saying that alucard does NOT need the extra bleed uptime

I’ve been reiterating this point for the past hour

[gusty thicket]

Early full aoe
20% damage buff
2x the range of choso
Summons

[split karma]

Yes choso can apply bleed better but alucard can give a dmg buff which may not have 100% uptime but it’s still there

[silk cobalt]

but the most important is regen 20% doesnt mean anything when enemies are healing faster than the dps increase u get from alucard

[gusty thicket]

Wt u choose for regen
A lancer
B choso

[placid lodge]

Difference is you’re not telling the truth

Jesus was

[split karma]

And alucards bleed is reliable enough to be able to kill enemies

[silk cobalt]

now your crumbling with the "may not have 100% uptime but it’s still there" keep going your almost close to agreeing its trash

[split karma]

No

1 second of downtime is really good?

[silk cobalt]

choso cuz full aoe

[gusty thicket]

brain dead

[silk cobalt]

why

[gusty thicket]

Its permanent no regen why would u go for full aoe

Its cheaper than choso

it solo boss

It got dps

[placid lodge]

And why choso who is no longer the best dps?

Regens are now easy to kill with lancer

[silk cobalt]

full aoe better imo

[gusty thicket]

Thats why u are dumb man

Thats why this suggestion is bs

[silk cobalt]

choso is a support unit

he stops regen

[placid lodge]

No he isn’t

[gusty thicket]

Lancer too

[placid lodge]

So you’re picking Choso over lander?

[limpid bloom]

Bleed itself naturally helped with regen because that's how it works between bleed and a enemy who can regen. But ruptures main thing is regen stopping

[silk cobalt]

if a unit is stopping regen its a support

[limpid bloom]

Bleed is just a different burn

[placid lodge]

And you still want go with Choso

[silk cobalt]

the more people come after the dumber they get holy moly

[placid lodge]

When lancer stops it permanently

[limpid bloom]

Both do tick dmg

[limpid bloom]

Insulting doesn't prove your point

Ur words not mine

[silk cobalt]

but bleed stops regen

[limpid bloom]

Because naturally it does

[silk cobalt]

your forgetting that

[limpid bloom]

That's how it works

[silk cobalt]

and what does burn do

[limpid bloom]

Tick dmg

Ruptures main target is enemies who regen

[placid hound]

are u guys tapped they said old units arent getting changed stop trying to get the last word u lot

[limpid bloom]

Bleeds main target is any enemy

[gusty thicket]

How much tick damage choso do

[limpid bloom]

He's been told that by a tester

[placid hound]

and still talking?

[silk cobalt]

fuck leni

[gusty thicket]

wt u saying

[limpid bloom]

And just told em to shut up

[placid hound]

crazy

[silk cobalt]

the wall is you

[gusty thicket]

[silk cobalt]

even you confusing him

[silk cobalt]

keep spamming

I win

[gusty thicket]

u did not

[split karma]

🤦

I don’t care who wins or not I’m not that petty

[gusty thicket]

U r the guy who think full aoe is better ,when u can perma stop regen

[silk cobalt]

choso is like 400 gold more expensive than lancer

choso can stop regen like its permanent

[gusty thicket]

he got 30 range wdym permanent

36 to be exact ig

[silk cobalt]

guess the unit

[gusty thicket]

Choso with that shit range

[silk cobalt]

starts with an L ends with and R

[limpid bloom]

??

[gusty thicket]

perma

[silk cobalt]

rhymes with dancer

[limpid bloom]

Yeah this is ragebait

[silk cobalt]

full aoe = better

lancer has dot

and is the same range

[gusty thicket]

Get your brain checked

[silk cobalt]

bro gave up

[limpid bloom]

I'm on phone so I can't really debate but this is getting pointless

[gusty thicket]

He does not

[silk cobalt]

huh

[limpid bloom]

💔

Ur not real

No way

[silk cobalt]

is circle not dot aoe?

[limpid bloom]

Rupture doesn't do tick dmg

[silk cobalt]

WHAT

im not arguing that

[limpid bloom]

Ok so

[faint ledge]

The debates been pointless he’s not getting buffed

[limpid bloom]

Dot = damage over time

Not a actual dot

We just say circle

For dot aoe

[gusty thicket]

Stop smoking shit

[limpid bloom]

Especially since we are debating about bleed

Which is dot

[iron beacon]

boohoo

[silk cobalt]

oh

thought dot meant circle aoe

[iron beacon]

be so fr rn

[gusty thicket]

[iron beacon]

[limpid bloom]

Yeah but when we talk about simple dot aoe we just call it circle

[gusty thicket]

[iron beacon]

wsg

[gusty thicket]

[split karma]

Yes this is true

Their is no point is arguing when nothing is every gonna happen

[limpid bloom]

I just like debating when I'm bored but

You can't really convince him

[split karma]

It’s pointless cause ur talking to a wall

[gusty thicket]

😂😂

[silk cobalt]

I've shown that Alucard's bleed effect is weak and can't sustain his 20% damage bonus. Meanwhile, the enemy is healing 5K per second, making it even less useful. But as soon as I point this out, you shift the goalpost and claim that Choso is a better DPS, saying I'm comparing apples to oranges. Just yesterday, you said Alucard was better than Choso, and now you're saying Choso is better.

[split karma]

It’s so bad to the point I’m actually agreeing with 1970

[gusty thicket]

😂 😂 the biggest hater

[silk cobalt]

you just spam this

[split karma]

Exactly

[gusty thicket]

Bro can we compare 😂 lancer and choso pls

Tell me which is better

Plss

[silk cobalt]

choso

reason

full aoe

there

[gusty thicket]

😭 😭 😭

[silk cobalt]

bro

[gusty thicket]

Ohk now listen

Dont say anything

[split karma]

Wait

[gusty thicket]

Let me say

[split karma]

You can not be talking about Choso being better then lancer for regen enemies right…

[gusty thicket]

If u permanently stopping healing with 30k money , with one unit ? Is it better than choso

[gusty thicket]

😂😂yes he is talking about that

[limpid bloom]

Ruptures main target is regen while bleed does tick dmg while helping slow down regen, not stop it

[gusty thicket]

Itss 10k

[limpid bloom]

In a previous tourney where it was shibuya

I found myself

Getting higher scores

With lancer

Then choso

[split karma]

You can not be comparing a unit that stops regen permanently with higher dps to choso

[limpid bloom]

Ya

[silk cobalt]

wym not stop

[gusty thicket]

[split karma]

No bleed straight up stops regen

[silk cobalt]

it stops regen

your legit lying

[split karma]

That’s a fact

[gusty thicket]

Why u replacing choso

[gusty thicket]

.