Make Alucard The VAMPIRE bleed longer

[chilly belfry]

hes already the best unit in the game

[silk cobalt]

yeah I just dont want to keep using choso whenever I need an actually good bleed so units dont regen

[vital wedge]

facts

[vivid trench]

buddy...

yk nvm

[vital wedge]

please add this devs

dont need to change the multiplier

just increase the duration 🙏

[silk cobalt]

look make it so that it feels like I brought an actual bleed unit

like the leaks in regen are lowered

[silk cobalt]

look if they added a longer bleed and banned alu from tourney Im still happy

and I bet the more bleeds they add alucard is going to feel alot worse in that department

[silk cobalt]

bump

[marble cipher]

no, it's meant to be short

+old units are not getting changed at all, as they were balanced by old balancers

[faint ledge]

One of the devs should prob put this as an heads up in sub announcements atp

Many don’t seem to know

[hazy harness]

hes like the best unit tho

[silk cobalt]

he leaks

even with monarch he leaks

regen should not be a weakness to a bleed unit

im pretty sure beam has a higher duration

[hazy harness]

yeah imo hes better with ethereal

in inf

and maybe tournament too

[silk cobalt]

even with 3

the bleed isnt enough for regen

[hazy harness]

oh

[silk cobalt]

yeah hes very strong there

[limpid bloom]

make one of the best supports in the entire game even better... uh huh

[silk cobalt]

idc about damage

its the bleed

[steel rapids]

sooo

[silk cobalt]

yes

[steel rapids]

we just want choso to be worse?

[silk cobalt]

wym

[hazy harness]

i think he would deserve dmg nerf

tho if u increase bleed duration

u cant make the best unit even better

[limpid bloom]

choso is the only thing that we have for non-alucard users, if choso is worse then alucard then it be zero point to even prog choso

[silk cobalt]

hes already outdamaged

[silk cobalt]

im not saying nerf choso

[limpid bloom]

if alucard bleeds more = effectively makes chosos only point of existing invalid

[silk cobalt]

well you say "non alucard users" meaning they would still have a use for choso

[limpid bloom]

alucard is already a better choso

[steel rapids]

yes but it makes one of choso's utillity useless

[silk cobalt]

not in the bleed department

[limpid bloom]

it would make it pointless once you get alucard

[limpid bloom]

yeah... and the entire point of this post is for him to bleed more...?

[steel rapids]

your basically forcing alucard to be even more meta than he is

[limpid bloom]

now lets say

nah hold up

[silk cobalt]

well alucard has a cheaper full aoe so

[limpid bloom]

lets say

alr

lets say

that he isn't

like you say

which he isn't

now

he has a ability

early aoe

full aoe at max

alot of range

[silk cobalt]

alucard is a vampire idk why his bleed is one second

[limpid bloom]

sjw ability

uhhh

wounded

one of the biggest things being wounded

[silk cobalt]

I hate the choso handicap

[steel rapids]

balancing dawg

[limpid bloom]

literally top 1 buff is wounded

[silk cobalt]

what balancing its ass

[limpid bloom]

20% more dmg taken is insanely good

[steel rapids]

and you want it to be even worse

[limpid bloom]

and compare that

to choso doing A LITTLE MORE BLEED DMG

[silk cobalt]

saber exists no?

lancer exists no?

[limpid bloom]

YEAH GUYS LETS BUFF THE ALREADY INSANELY META BLEED 🥳 🥳 🥳

[steel rapids]

what does saber have to do with bleed

[limpid bloom]

yeah what is that comparsion

LOL

[silk cobalt]

this is legit just "i dont want to be handicapped by choso for a 1/24k unit"

[silk cobalt]

"meta bleed" and he doesnt even stop regen

[limpid bloom]

it would make the entire point of a character pointless

yk why choso is good?

because hes better at bleed dmg

thats his

ONLY

good quality

[silk cobalt]

so what choso is ass

[limpid bloom]

compared to all of the good things that alucard has

i dropped 1.8m gems without alucard

[silk cobalt]

idc about choso

[limpid bloom]

and even if i were

ok

yeah

this is just ragebaiting atp

[hazy harness]

choso already is S tier

[limpid bloom]

💔

[silk cobalt]

alucard

[hazy harness]

without alucard

[silk cobalt]

alucard

[hazy harness]

but alucard is must bring

buffing him changes nothing

[limpid bloom]

choso is good because he has a better bleed, which also makes him effectly more viable to run then alucard in some cases

however

alucard is just

better

[silk cobalt]

is basically not a user of his 20% buff you need choso to paint mobs for longer to make the buffs stick

[limpid bloom]

literally everything about alucard outweighs the bleed dmg

[silk cobalt]

same with regen units

[limpid bloom]

the only reason

you would EVER

bring a alucard

for lets say, infinite

is if theres already a alucard

thats like monarch or eth

no point

[silk cobalt]

look I dont think a 1/24k secret should be nerfed to make another unit shine

[limpid bloom]

chosos only good thing that makes him a pick is if theres ALREADY A META BLEED UNIT

[limpid bloom]

hes not

never once

[silk cobalt]

choso would still be useable for non alucard users

[limpid bloom]

was there

EVER

any sort of mention

of alucard being nerfed

[silk cobalt]

he is in the BLEED department

Jesus Christ

[limpid bloom]

rather by alucard being buffed, it ruins the entire point of bringing a choso

[hazy harness]

so what

[limpid bloom]

it would lowkey be fucking as fuck

if the only good bleed unit

was a 1/24k

and even if you had him

no variety

[silk cobalt]

wym

[limpid bloom]

like a drone

[silk cobalt]

alucard runs tournaments no?

[limpid bloom]

yeah

thats it

[silk cobalt]

so whats the difference

[limpid bloom]

what difference

chosos good for bleed

alucard

clears choso

in literally everything else

[silk cobalt]

was a 1/24k and runs tournaments

[hazy harness]

the new best unit would need to have full aoe at upgrade 4 like alucard + the weakened status and the ghouls

[silk cobalt]

its already unbalanced

[limpid bloom]

im starting to think that

[hazy harness]

and u saying we need to buff alucard ?

[limpid bloom]

your not actually

[silk cobalt]

so who cares

[limpid bloom]

looking at my words

yo

look at my words pls

i already told you like

3 times now

on why buffing alucard

effectively makes choso, the only other viable bleed unit

completely pointless to bring

but yk you dont care

[steel rapids]

dude this is a dumb statement

why make bad balancing even worse

[hazy harness]

dude like the best unit is alocard

dont buff it

simple

[steel rapids]

exactly

[marble cipher]

@silk cobalt noob

[limpid bloom]

instead of making the game a little more enjoyable by having more variety by swapping out other units

if one unit

was just

[silk cobalt]

what

[hazy harness]

you dont need to argue

[limpid bloom]

better then every other unit

[steel rapids]

if you want bleed remove alucard or someone else from your team bro

[hazy harness]

the best unit , leave it alone

[limpid bloom]

in that area

[limpid bloom]

it becomes pointles

because ur suggestions

was ass

thats why

[silk cobalt]

fuck u

[limpid bloom]

😭

[silk cobalt]

jumping me for what

[hazy harness]

even if this wasnt rage bait

[steel rapids]

because youre ignorant

[hazy harness]

like theres no need to argue wth

[limpid bloom]

all of the reasons that you brought up

as to why alucard

should of been buffed

are bad

you literally said u didnt care if choso became unmeta because of his only redeeming quality being a second bleed if theres already a alucard being used

alucard doesn't need more bleed

if he literally applies

the wounded stat

literally the BEST status effect

in the entire game

[placid lodge]

u want make him even more op?

bro he's legit the #1 best unit rn

[limpid bloom]

solos tourney

solos lb

sols every gamemode

viable in portals

what else?

[placid lodge]

this guy should get suggestion blacklist

[limpid bloom]

you could literally

run

alucard

[hazy harness]

blacklist yeah

[placid lodge]

buff the #1 best unit for no reason 😂

[limpid bloom]

in a nerfed unnound tourney

[hazy harness]

if he does that again

[limpid bloom]

and he would still be viable

[silk cobalt]

its not even a damage thing I just think he should bleed more without needing choso okay thats all, I give reasons as to why because alucard in lore is more naturally attuned to blood than choso is, I know choso is hanging on a thread but I really dont care

[hazy harness]

black list

[placid lodge]

then dont' use alucard?

[limpid bloom]

the canon and the game are two different things

[placid lodge]

matter fo fact regens arent usually a problem

[silk cobalt]

just the bleed

[placid lodge]

because you have lancer to stop them

[limpid bloom]

yk

if we wanna be lore acc

then gilgamesh would be beyond numb 1

hes multverse level

[hazy harness]

lancer is top 5 around

[steel rapids]

thats still a buff gang

[hazy harness]

i like lancer

(overall)

[limpid bloom]

in the canon gilgamesh is multverse level, there has to be some balance

i do get ur point A LITTLE BIT

it seems weird that choso doing more bleed then a literal vampire

but

without that, it just be unbalanced

it would effectively make alucard just better no matter what

[hazy harness]

who i think needs a buff is valentine isnt he the weakest secret

[limpid bloom]

if there isn't any balance then alot of the characters added would have zero point of existance

[limpid bloom]

yeah

i have him eth and hes still garbo

hes like gogeta

monarch or garbo

[marble cipher]

old units will not be changed as they were balanced by old balancers

this suggestion was already redundant/pointless from the start

[limpid bloom]

yeah

its just pointless

not even that

[silk cobalt]

is nobody gonna vouch choso here? lancer clears him!

so unbalanced guys

[limpid bloom]

yo

?

rupture

and bleed

two different things

bleed is tick damage

[hazy harness]

choso bleed is good paired with alucard in inf leaderboard

[limpid bloom]

rupture stops regen

[silk cobalt]

stopping bleed indefinitely with no cd is insane

its not even a skill with a cooldown

double standards are crazy

[limpid bloom]

so whats the point your trying to make tho

were talking about bleed rn

ur bringing up rupture

smth that stops regen

[proper bobcat]

im confused are you trolling?

[silk cobalt]

do I give a fuck

[limpid bloom]

bleed stops regen because its tick dmg is effectively stopping that regened dmg

[hazy harness]

i say 50% chance hes trolling

[limpid bloom]

you could literally call it a passive

[marble cipher]

have fun wasting your time ig

[hazy harness]

50% he isnt

[silk cobalt]

k thanks

[placid lodge]

you should?

this is your suggestion

what's the point if it will never happen?

[proper bobcat]

we are asking for a top 3 unit since released for a buff?

[placid lodge]

you're a dumbass

[silk cobalt]

rupture is basically bleed but always on

[hazy harness]

top 1

[limpid bloom]

nah

[proper bobcat]

BASICALLY BLEED?

[silk cobalt]

it doesnt go away till the boss/mob dies

[hazy harness]

isnt bleed always on too

[silk cobalt]

only for choso

who is able to stack bleed everytime

[hazy harness]

alucard is overall the best tho why give him an other speciality

[proper bobcat]

im concerned for the future of this community this is a terrible suggestion

[hazy harness]

try to be fair

we dont call this "balancing" for nothing

[limpid bloom]

rupture stops regen, choso does tick damage that only ever "stops regen" because thats literally how bleed works against a enemey who can regen

this is not something hard to understand

also

if we wanna compare rupture

alucard

for the

4th time

[hazy harness]

we try to make a balance between units so that one isnt too far ahead from the others

[limpid bloom]

im mentioning this

[proper bobcat]

you didn’t even include the argument how making him balanced into it

[limpid bloom]

has wounded

[silk cobalt]

also Im pretty sure choso isnt the only unit with higher bleed duration than alucard, like nobara and beam

[limpid bloom]

the literal best status element

in the entire game

[hazy harness]

i personally think legendary and epics might also need buffs or some evo missions

[limpid bloom]

they are not used due to not doing good dmg

[proper bobcat]

they also dont have as much utility

[silk cobalt]

how are legendary units applying more bleed than him

[limpid bloom]

wounded status

ability

full aoe

[hazy harness]

cuz most units that arent mythical or rarer are trash and serve no purpose

[limpid bloom]

more dmg

dude do you HEAR YOURSELF??

[silk cobalt]

dude regen is an insane debuffer its important that its not a factor

[proper bobcat]

jesus christ dudes brain works so one tracked he keeps ignoring everything else in the kit

[limpid bloom]

bleed stops that

its literally how bleed against a enemy that regens work

[silk cobalt]

talking to so many fucking people with inflated egos is so annoying

one at a time

[limpid bloom]

you dont want them to regen? get a unit that stops it

[limpid bloom]

you got a ego bro

nah guys let me speak

[silk cobalt]

good

[limpid bloom]

alr

explain how

rupture

and bleed

are the same

pls i want to know

[silk cobalt]

but alucard doesn't apply bleed like that so its like he doesnt even have it

[hazy harness]

alocard whats his bleed duration ?

[limpid bloom]

answer the question above

[silk cobalt]

like 1 second or less

[limpid bloom]

i want that out of the way

[hazy harness]

if u have him ethereal whats his spa ?

[limpid bloom]

you said rupture and bleed are the same

[silk cobalt]

when did I say they were the same, I said rupture is just bleed but permanent till the mob/ boss is dead

[limpid bloom]

the only way they are the same is that they stop regen right??

[silk cobalt]

yes

[limpid bloom]

ok now

[silk cobalt]

thats a similar trait

[limpid bloom]

im gonna blow your mind

when i say this

okay?

[silk cobalt]

ok

[limpid bloom]

bleed is tick damage

rupture isn;t

[silk cobalt]

WOWOWOWO

[limpid bloom]

😱

[silk cobalt]

WOWOWOWOW

[placid lodge]

honestly, idk why you need better bleed ticks?
you don't struggle with early regens
regen is only a problem upon late waves where youll hvae rupture installed by then

[silk cobalt]

bro did you not read what I fucking said??

[limpid bloom]

bleeds main purpose is tick damage

the fact that

it stops regen

is because

thats how balancing is supposed to work

alucard also had wounded

another status effect

he can apply onto enemies

making them take 20% more damage

[silk cobalt]

"I said rupture is just bleed but permanent till the mob/ boss is dead"

answer: well dode u not gonna believe this but uh.. bleed you gotta apply it over and over and uhh rupture its once. SO BOOM

[limpid bloom]

which already makes him one of the best supports

[limpid bloom]

what buffs

[hazy harness]

godly stats

[limpid bloom]

do these include subaru and fubuki

[placid lodge]

does it matter?

[hazy harness]

no trait

lvl 60

[placid lodge]

that only matter for choso but choso is no longer in the best dps with bleeds including

[silk cobalt]

"he's already Uber-tier, but I believe his potential could be far higher." read click ^

[hazy harness]

bleed included

[limpid bloom]

his lore potential and his way of being balanced are two different things

if his bleed is put any higher it would effectively make every other bleed unit entirely useless

[hazy harness]

with ethereal his sp -20%

he does bleed 3/4 of the time

[silk cobalt]

bro I give lore reasons as to why I think it should be higher but thats obviously not all I think

[limpid bloom]

he has so many other abilities not just bleed that make him where he is

the only thing

[hazy harness]

if he bleeds for 1 second

[limpid bloom]

that your right about

hold

the only thing

ur right about

is how a blood mani like choso

could somehow outbleed

a literal vampire

thats the only thing you have right

[silk cobalt]

legendaries have a higher bleed sustain than him, and ME with MONARCH alucard cant even solo a regen raid or paragon without the help of my goat choso

[hazy harness]

ethereal then

...

[limpid bloom]

it would of made more sense for alucard to have more bleed but get balanced by just being worse then what he has

[limpid bloom]

monarch alucard gives him more bleed dmg

[marble cipher]

use more units then

[silk cobalt]

dude do you think I didnt have/ use 3x alucard before I got monarch

[limpid bloom]

eth is better on alucard

since you stack bleed

[placid lodge]

so why are you using one unit?

[silk cobalt]

this is the crutch im talking about

[hazy harness]

ethereal/blitz ?

[placid lodge]

??

[limpid bloom]

just doesn't wanna roll off of monarch

i wouldn't too

hes good

but

[placid lodge]

@floral palm yo I think he's rage baiting so hard

[limpid bloom]

thats the whole point

[placid lodge]

refusing to use extra units

[limpid bloom]

because ur using monarch

ur not getting more bleed

[silk cobalt]

that doesnt work

[hazy harness]

it does

🙂

[silk cobalt]

I dont think you have used alucard

[hazy harness]

no i didnt

and so you didnt

[silk cobalt]

yea

[placid lodge]

which regen raid r u talking about

[limpid bloom]

i used alucard on another acc i know how he works

[hazy harness]

cuz u dont tell bleed duration

[limpid bloom]

hes better

bleed wise

as eth

monarch alucard is more bleed dmg

but eth alucard is applying bleed more often

while also applying wounded more often

[hazy harness]

like 3/4 of the time

right

[silk cobalt]

any tbh, pre nerf of demon slayer forest was a wakeup call for me that alucard bleed fucking sucks

[limpid bloom]

which effectively makes him better then choso anyway

hes a support

[hazy harness]

this dude is rage baiting

[limpid bloom]

yeah just

ignore this dude

god

[hazy harness]

95% hes rage baiting with this suggestion

[limpid bloom]

trying to tell him why it wouldn't work but he just doesn't give a shit or insults

[silk cobalt]

"I dont have alucard" you

[limpid bloom]

and i do

and you still dont believe

[placid lodge]

are you trolling?

[limpid bloom]

so

[placid lodge]

demon slayer raid isnt meant to be done solo

portals*

[limpid bloom]

not talking about portals

[silk cobalt]

I had another monarch

[limpid bloom]

hes talking about demon slayer

[hazy harness]

99.99% hes rage baiting

[silk cobalt]

plus I like the challenge

[placid lodge]

then he fucking suck..?

you can't be struggling with early regens

[proper bobcat]

you dont even need a bleed to do ds raid lol

[placid lodge]

its a outdated raid

[limpid bloom]

thats what im trying say

like

[silk cobalt]

I got to wave 20 easily but then the boss got away cuz alucard couldnt stick the bleed well

[limpid bloom]

the whole point of bleed units

ok so

[placid lodge]

LOOLoka,y and

[limpid bloom]

this is how bleed units go

monarch

more bleed dmg

[placid lodge]

ur using units that arent immune to snare

[limpid bloom]

less bleed being applied

[hazy harness]

cuz hes monarch duh

[limpid bloom]

eth

less bleed dmg

[hazy harness]

idk bro isnt ur alucard monarch

[limpid bloom]

more bleed being applied

[placid lodge]

and why are you using alucard?

[limpid bloom]

want more bleed being applied?

[placid lodge]

why arent you using sakura

you FUCKING suck dude

admit it

[limpid bloom]

nah

just

[placid lodge]

wait lol

he's lying

dude

[limpid bloom]

i think its just

[placid lodge]

I have proof I sold ds raid with mon alucard + sakura + farm units

??

alucard with his early aoe is op

[silk cobalt]

sakura for??

[limpid bloom]

im giving him the benefit of the doubt

[placid lodge]

LOOOL

[limpid bloom]

oh my fucking god

[hazy harness]

idk bro dont u have her

[placid lodge]

DUDE

[silk cobalt]

wait you think ima talking about the demon slayer raid

[limpid bloom]

we are so fucking cooked

[silk cobalt]

im talking about the map

[hazy harness]

wait hes asking why use sakura

[placid lodge]

??

WWDYM MAP

[silk cobalt]

HOLY SHIT CAN YOU BITCHES BE SILENT

[limpid bloom]

portal?

[placid lodge]

WHICH MODE DUMBASS
Raid or portals

[placid lodge]

STFU

[silk cobalt]

3 pings in one second

[placid lodge]

ITS UR SUGGESTION

AND ALL UR TELLING US IS THAT YOU HAVE A SKILL ISSUE

HOW DID YOU DIE ON DS RAID WITH MON ALUCARD?

[hazy harness]

first time ?

[silk cobalt]

your not hearing me

just talking

I'm talking about portals

[placid lodge]

ds raid ISNT MEANT TO BE DONE SOLO

[hazy harness]

what element

[silk cobalt]

if I wanted to do the final demon slayer stage I'd use gojo

[placid lodge]

YOURE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THAT MAP IN GENERAL EITHER

[limpid bloom]

@silk cobalt

monarch = more bleed dmg, less bleed being applied

Ethereal/blitz = less bleed dmg, more bleed being applied

pick one, this isn't alucard being bad, hes just not doing enough bleed on his own, which is obvious

[silk cobalt]

idk i forgot

[limpid bloom]

if you like alucard so much just roll another one and get eth on him

or roll off of monarch if you want to apply more bleed

but you wont

right?

[hazy harness]

monarch is best for 20 waves or for sjw/diego kind of units

or vanguards

[limpid bloom]

just in general

monarch on a bleed unit

makes it so they do more bleed dmg

but just cant stack bleed

[hazy harness]

ethereal can be better

[limpid bloom]

thats the point

[hazy harness]

on inf with alucard

[silk cobalt]

I've used 3 alucards with bleed its like tryna hold water with three strainers underneath

you'd think it would work

[limpid bloom]

yes

are you ass at vanguards?

[hazy harness]

and if u lose a 20 waves with monarch alucard sorry bro skill issue

[silk cobalt]

I got another non monarch alucard do yall want me to test?

[hazy harness]

what trait

[silk cobalt]

no trait

[marble cipher]

just go to sandbox

[hazy harness]

make him blitz

or ethereal

[limpid bloom]

erika

[hazy harness]

then we see

[silk cobalt]

ok

I'll obs record

[placid lodge]

buffing alucard is basically nerfing choso

if u make alucard's bleed last longer then there's no need for choso no more

[hazy harness]

yeah relatively to alucard he becomes pointless to use

xd

[limpid bloom]

I LITERALLY TOLD HIM THAT

AND HE SAID HE DIDNT CARE

honestly video or not

he will just yap

[placid lodge]

and if u look at his conversation above

[limpid bloom]

monarch alucard = less bleed being applied but more bleed dmg

[placid lodge]

he said he doesnt want nerf choso

[limpid bloom]

eth/blitz = the reverse

that so simple

[placid lodge]

but does he know this is literally nerfing choso?

he created this for fun

[limpid bloom]

its effectively making it pointless

to run choso

in inf

the only reason you run choso in inf

if theres already a alucard

thats how good alucard is

[silk cobalt]

really who gives a shit about choso yall act like you gave birth to him he's easy to obtain hes still a better bleed applier than alucard(if you dont have him)

[limpid bloom]

im starting to think ur like

a actual fucking illusion

[placid lodge]

then why did you say u dont want nerf choso?

and yet ur saying this

ur switching up stories lmao

[limpid bloom]

its kinda unbelievable how you dont factor in

ANYTHING

BUT BLEED!!

like

your making it seem like

alucard ONLY has bleed

[placid lodge]

also u were riding the fuck out of choso 5m ago

cuz his ticks last longer

[limpid bloom]

hes literally one of the best fucking supports

of all fucking time

rin is second

like thats not even fucking ragebaiting

wounded is such a powerful passive

and your overlooking it

20% more dmg on a enemy is INSANE

and thats not even including he has other shit too

[silk cobalt]

all 3 with blitz first full aoe

[limpid bloom]

like why the fuck are you overlooking everything but bleed?

you literally just want his bleed to be more because you got monarch on him bro

and u cant just roll it off because monarch is a rare trait

i get that

but that also means you literally have

MORE THEN ONE MONARCH

ER ALUCARD

YOU HAVE MORE THEN ONE ALUCARD

WHATS THE ENTIRE POINT OF COMPLAINING THEN??

if this was ragebait i gotta give it a 10/10

beyond fell for it

[silk cobalt]

cuz its important

[limpid bloom]

so everything else about alucard is invalid

[silk cobalt]

I legit said "alucard leaks mobs cuz they are regen and his bleed application sucks"

[limpid bloom]

just his bleed

[silk cobalt]

lowkey somewhat

[limpid bloom]

oh my god ur not real

yo

okay so

[silk cobalt]

alucard isnt even that high of a dps

but his full aoe is insane

[limpid bloom]

BECAUSE HES A SUPPORT

WHAT??

[hazy harness]

the enemies constantly have wounded status

[limpid bloom]

HE WAS NEVER A DPS HES A SUPPORT

[hazy harness]

with blitz

[silk cobalt]

so buff his support by making him a better bleed

[hazy harness]

i tested

[limpid bloom]

oh my god

nah

med you can handle this im out

[hazy harness]

your points are invalid

[limpid bloom]

literally feeding this guy

you can give him like 5 good points

and he will just say alucard still needs to be buffed

[marble cipher]

[limpid bloom]

as if

once again

wounded isn't the best status effect

in the entire game

if bleed was a issue

[hazy harness]

do i send video

[limpid bloom]

its because you have him monarched

and even then

his main stuff isn't just bleed

[hazy harness]

literally there isnt a single second where there isnt the wounded status

[limpid bloom]

wounded is perm im pretty sure

[silk cobalt]

cant even proc it without a good bleed full aoe

[limpid bloom]

doesn't say if it lasts or not

[limpid bloom]

prok?

also like i said hes not a full dps

like

at max

with buffs

hes does like

idk 60-70k?

i dont have him monarched

and its crazy because

emilia

im comparing her

since i actually have her monarched

[silk cobalt]

yes

[limpid bloom]

does 70k as well

and shes a support

right?

[silk cobalt]

yes

[limpid bloom]

so in general

alucard is a support

hes not supposed to be on a his own

[silk cobalt]

so why is it bad for a support to support by not letting enemies regen

[hazy harness]

the bleed also is almost constant

[limpid bloom]

due to the wounded stat

they will be taking alot more dmg

like

they could LITERALLY

REMOVE BLEED FROM HIM

AND HE WOULD STILL BE TOP META

[silk cobalt]

but then he doesnt even enable it well

[limpid bloom]

thats how good wounded is

[hazy harness]

tell me guys a mob that regens

[limpid bloom]

mahito

[silk cobalt]

demon slayer mobs I think

mahito

bro he's so annoying

[hazy harness]

he cant regen tongue demon

[limpid bloom]

random normal spin

didnt even apply stats

jesus

luck is insane

but yeah

tdlr:

this entire thing was ragebait

gg

[silk cobalt]

sandbox is not a good testing ground

its too clean for me

[hazy harness]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[silk cobalt]

why was bro ragebaiting me. lowkey I almost fell for it

[limpid bloom]

yo

i already explained

several times

why ur suggestion

is ass

and how it doesn't work

stop getting ur ego up

💔

alucard isnt getting a buff even the balancers said its not happening

besides gojo, alucard has dominated the top 5 since release

not even something you can deny

bleed is not that guys only ability bro

just glaze atp

[hazy harness]

why even care

[silk cobalt]

bleed is important because it stops regen, alucard is a unit (comparatively to any new bleed unit that has come out after him) has worse bleed than they do

[limpid bloom]

wounded

once again

one of the best status

in the entire game

[hazy harness]

choso is super good dps

[silk cobalt]

wounded wounded HE CANT EVEN USE IT

[limpid bloom]

has a ability

[silk cobalt]

hes too weak

[limpid bloom]

SUPPORT

[hazy harness]

u dont have monarch choso ?

[limpid bloom]

HES A SUPPORT YOU FUCKING DUMBASS

[silk cobalt]

he doesnt sustain shit

[limpid bloom]

OH MY GOD DUDE

HES NOT SUPPOSED TO BE USED ALONE HES SUPPORTED TO BE USED WITH OTHER DPS UNITS

MONARCH OR NOT

HES A SUPPPPPPORT

[silk cobalt]

telling alucard to bleed is like tryna store water in the sand

[marble cipher]

?

[hazy harness]

he dont have monarch choso

😭

[limpid bloom]

telling this guy that alucard doesn't need bleed is like trying to get a kid to stop crying after saying no to not getting what they want

like bro

[silk cobalt]

I hear you

[limpid bloom]

give it up

[limpid bloom]

you hear me

but your not listening

big difference

[hazy harness]

@silk cobalt nooob

[silk cobalt]

but your like saying shit I already know, if I thought "oh and his other abilites suckzs!!" you would be valid to call me out but IM NOT

[hazy harness]

we dont hhave the ability to add bleed

😦

[limpid bloom]

its funny because

bleed isn't his only thing that makes him where he is

[silk cobalt]

BROOOOOOOOOOOO

[limpid bloom]

if alucard had more bleed

[silk cobalt]

OH MY FUCKING GOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[limpid bloom]

choso becomes bad

[silk cobalt]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ITS LIKE SISYPHUS WITH YOU

[hazy harness]

you should talk about valentine @silk cobalt

[limpid bloom]

@marble cipher actually insane how people like this are able to make suggestions

[silk cobalt]

you talk about it if you love the pdf that much

[limpid bloom]

and when they grow up they get the right to vote

this shit is sad

[silk cobalt]

#justice4gyro

[limpid bloom]

what?

[hazy harness]

you should talk about something innovative

[silk cobalt]

valentine is villain

he does bad stuff

in manga

[hazy harness]

or constructive

[limpid bloom]

okay and that relates to the game how

bro

[silk cobalt]

if you care of valentine open a thread

[limpid bloom]

this shit is actually sad ngl

[silk cobalt]

idc about him

[limpid bloom]

its comparsion

[hazy harness]

im giving an exemple

[limpid bloom]

hes also a sercet yet worse then alucard without monarch

[hazy harness]

arent you able to see that ????

[silk cobalt]

then you follow it!

you got this!

[limpid bloom]

yo

follow what i been telling you

your hearing me but none of the information is being stored

one ear out the other

[hazy harness]

no

i know whats going on

[limpid bloom]

you been told several times

on why alucard wouldn't work

literal tester

[hazy harness]

hes brain washed

[limpid bloom]

also told you

it wouldn't happened

[hazy harness]

by social media brain rot

🤓

[limpid bloom]

making a unit that already dominates the top 5 ever since THE FUCKING RELEASE OF AV

more better

then the only other unit

thats only ever brought on

if theres already alucard

[hazy harness]

exactly my goat

[limpid bloom]

is so fucking stupid

[hazy harness]

you make sense unlike that stupid dude

😭

@silk cobalt noob

[hazy harness]

make better suggestion

[limpid bloom]

i just dont get how people can make suggestions like this

[silk cobalt]

fuck u

[limpid bloom]

yeah

folded like a chair

LOL

not even able to come up with anything else

[silk cobalt]

literally nothing wrong with this suggestion but you turn it into something more

[hazy harness]

keep roasting him his brain needs to go beyond when it comes to brain rot

[limpid bloom]

now its just gonna be any sort of insults

[hazy harness]

noob u dont know

[limpid bloom]

med stop with the glaze

[limpid bloom]

whats not wrong with it

we explained whats wrong with it

[hazy harness]

i wanna troll him back mb

[silk cobalt]

is that .... good?? yes king

[limpid bloom]

tell me whats NOT wrong

yo

listen to me

not him

give me a proper reason as to why your suggestion is in the right

[hazy harness]

...

[limpid bloom]

and we are in the wrong

[hazy harness]

lets just

give him

some silence

...

[limpid bloom]

despite a tester telling you it wasn't going to happen

[hazy harness]

this should be sad

...

[limpid bloom]

despite being proven that it would make a unit completely unit

despite alucard already being top 1 since release

despite alucard being literally the best support

tell me whats not wrong?

[hazy harness]

you gave me depression

pay me 500k dollars

[inland sequoia]

@silk cobalt delete ts 💔

[limpid bloom]

nothing

thats the thing

[hazy harness]

im gonna cry my whole life time

[limpid bloom]

theres nothing you can say on whats right about this

[hazy harness]

cuz someone wants to buff alucard

[limpid bloom]

and even if you do

[hazy harness]

the best freaking support

[limpid bloom]

ill debate it with you

someone with NO alucard

[silk cobalt]

your points "alucard is so strong already dood he's a support dood" my points "Alucard is strong but he can be stronger if they just increased his bleed duration, its far too short of a duration and he's being outlasted in bleed by legendary units"

[hazy harness]

and we are not closing this suggestion

[silk cobalt]

soon but I'm having fun

[hazy harness]

no he cant be stronger because we need to balance the units

thats the purpose of balance

how many times do we have to remind you

[inland sequoia]

Yall just ragebaiting eachother how's that fun lmao

[silk cobalt]

saber exists no?

[inland sequoia]

Not even an actual debate

Straight up pointless ragebaiting

[hazy harness]

SHES NOT AS GOOD AS HIM

[silk cobalt]

WHAT

see this is delusion

they just blurt out shit

they gotta win no matter what

[hazy harness]

according to you saber is better than alucard who has :
full aoe upgrade 4
wounded status making him an op support
has ghouls
lets see why @silk cobalt

could you say why

[inland sequoia]

My guy

Saber is not better than Alucard

She's just another dps

[hazy harness]

let him think

for an other night

maybe he will switch opinion

cuz we arent

and he cant change our mind

[silk cobalt]

more dps/ push back at lower upgrades gains an ability thats basically monarch for 3 hits immune to stun

she outdamages him

[inland sequoia]

Thats all she does

damage

[silk cobalt]

if you wanna argue shes less dps cuz of factors like full aoe

[inland sequoia]

Literally useless

[silk cobalt]

is pushback not support

[inland sequoia]

Gonna get powercrept in a few updates, unlike Alucard

[inland sequoia]

Useless most of the time

[hazy harness]

so tell me my frined do you rather 5 small circle units or 5 full aoe units in ur infinites @silk cobalt

[silk cobalt]

if you ever get monarch saber pls gimme

[hazy harness]

my frind

are you ok?

ca va mon ami ?

hello

hiiii

good morning

we are on earth

🙂

welcome back

[limpid bloom]

"Alucard is strong but he can be stronger" already a bad point, theres a reason for balance. If he was too strong, then it would effectively makes him even more of a must have then choso, which only ever is used when alucard is already place down.

"if they just increased his bleed duration, compared to how short of a duration it is now" (how to give this one a actual sentence 💔 ) which would make choso invalid since hes the only reason people prog him, he does more bleed damage then alucard.

"he's being outlasted in bleed by legendary units" also a bad point because alucard simply can outdps any legendary and below, hell, he pretty much outdpses choso if both of them were maxed.

"saber exists no?" Saber is a dps, hes a nuker thats viable because she can make alot of damage in a short amount of time. Alucard is a support/sub dps. Wounded being his best ability, makes it so saber could actually possibly do MORE damage then without him. Hes a support, not a dps. You are comparing two different unit types. (Also saber never once has full aoe or cone aoe compared to alucard having early and full aoe at max)

[marble cipher]

[limpid bloom]

dont say yap actually read what i said

[hazy harness]

bro is he ok

genuinely

are u bored

can i understand you more

[limpid bloom]

if you fail to read any of it then ur argument is pointless if you cant bring up a valid comeback

let him type

[silk cobalt]

I know your not saying alucard is a support but if your really pushing for me to see that why is improving his bleeding a bad thing really

[hazy harness]

why u make this account for fun

[limpid bloom]

read everything else

then type

pls ty

[silk cobalt]

I got 4 fucking people on me I type then read

[hazy harness]

cuz we like choso

everyone likes choso

[limpid bloom]

no you dont

you have me and med

[hazy harness]

its ur problem if ur against that

[silk cobalt]

why

[limpid bloom]

and leni is watching

med

stop talking

let him read

[silk cobalt]

people like whats good btw

[limpid bloom]

otherwise my message would be flooded

read

if you cant give a valid comeback to my points

then theres zero point for you to speaking in the first place

med stop talking

and let him read

[limpid bloom]

as for this answer, i already told you that alucard at max is 70k damage. Emilia, whos also literally a support, at max monarched does 70k as well. thats how the dps of supports are. Low dps in exchange for supporting other units.

subaru is a support but he does low dmg

fubuki is a sub dps that supports

since at max she can do like 80-90k idrr

[hazy harness]

anyways for whoever come to the chat , this dude thinks alucard should be doing more bleed for many very important reasons
1 alucard is already op so its fine if hes even more op
2 alucard cant beat wave 20 portal t10 in spider dimension
3 sinces hes a vampire from hellsing he should control bleed better than choso therefore making it last longer

[limpid bloom]

4 trying to use alucard as a main dps despite being a support

just wont work

[silk cobalt]

"makes him even more of a must have then choso" why would it be bad for a 1/24k chance unit to be better than choso a unit with far more avaibility. " also a bad point because alucard simply can outdps any legendary and below" but you said earlier "reason people prog him, he does more bleed damage then alucard." (space) " hes a nuker thats viable because she can make alot of damage in a short amount of time. Alucard is a support/sub dps. " so why would it be bad to increase his abilities by making his bleed sustain longer, it doesnt even have to be like choso maybe like 0.2 seconds off or he gets a better bleed at max upgrade or with his ability

[limpid bloom]

expecting alucard to solo everything is weird 💔

[hazy harness]

thats not how it works

[silk cobalt]

read

I read for u

[hazy harness]

1/24k doesnt mean

24k times better

than every units

the strenght of alucard is based on other units

[silk cobalt]

bro

[hazy harness]

he cant outshine too much other units

[silk cobalt]

pulling shit out your ass

[silk cobalt]

why not

he already does

I know this already

[hazy harness]

thats obvious , otherwise why grind for an other bleed secret unit if it happens to be out

since theres alucarrrrddd

[inland sequoia]

Alucard's far better than Choso tho

The only thing Choso has over Alucard is his bleed

Alucard outdps's, has more range, better passives, better at early/mid/late waves

He's better at everything except bleed

[limpid bloom]

"why would it be bad for a 1/24k chance unit to be better than choso a unit with far more avaibility." a rare unit shouldn't be more powerful then a mythic. Alucards the only true sercet from a banner that is actually worth getting. Diavolo is only good due to his ability, and gogeta is only viable with monarch. It's already bad as is because alucard is ALREADY BETTER THEN CHOSO. This is just putting salt on the wound, hes already "balanced" in a way that cant really be changed much anymore.

"so why would it be bad to increase his abilities by making his bleed sustain longer" because his other abilities make him better. His bleed is fine, its only because you have him monarched that your unable to do good bleed. If you wanted bleed, you would be using choso. thats the only reason you would use choso. By him having better bleed, then choso becomes like igris, usuable but theres already better options. And even then, alucard is already better then choso even without bleed.

[hazy harness]

lets say they add chainsaw devil a secret with bleed , they now have to make him do more bleed than alucard , compete with wounded status and with ghouls ?

who would grind for it

theres alucard

[silk cobalt]

alucard is a unit you can acknowledge is the best/ better unit than choso and other bleeds but your saying that it would be wrong if they just made him able to cover his regen enemies weakness. why? why does it matter

[limpid bloom]

i responded to you

read

[silk cobalt]

its like adding more sugar to tea

[hazy harness]

like who woudl care about new unit

theres alucard

[limpid bloom]

ur points are literally just "why cant already op character be more op lol whats balancing?"

[hazy harness]

unless u make them better than ur buffed alucard

[limpid bloom]

mfs make suggestions without thinking about it

[hazy harness]

i dont see why add new bleed units

[silk cobalt]

it took me 3 months to get alucard so its not as simple as theres alucard

[limpid bloom]

cute tho

thinking 3 months is the same as gems spent

[hazy harness]

then make him less rare duh

[limpid bloom]

cant

thats the thing

if hes becomes less rare

owners of alucard wont like that

if he becomes rarer

then people who want him

[inland sequoia]

So they're being biased

[limpid bloom]

cant get him easier

[hazy harness]

make him less rare but buff him

[inland sequoia]

Thats it

[silk cobalt]

I dont think choso has more dps than alucard, my friend has a monarch choso and he does the same dps alucard does in max upgrade with his ability, and thats not even counting his bleed damage passives

[limpid bloom]

yep

thats literally

his whole thing

scroll up to my debates with him

his entire argument is

[hazy harness]

to compensate with mad owners

[inland sequoia]

The best unit in the game shouldn't have a 1/24k drop chance

[limpid bloom]

hes already op, make him more op!

[hazy harness]

ok lets try to buff alucard

[limpid bloom]

honestly

not the best unit

[hazy harness]

we give alucard more bleed

[limpid bloom]

best unit is smth like saber

[hazy harness]

is that ur only problem ?

[inland sequoia]

He does have higher dps

[limpid bloom]

best support

yes

[silk cobalt]

how did you grind this

[inland sequoia]

??

[hazy harness]

...

[limpid bloom]

dps wise

[inland sequoia]

Alucard is way better

[silk cobalt]

typo

[inland sequoia]

Like actually

Way better

[limpid bloom]

hes trying to compare a dps unit to a support unit