Nerf RR from Boss event

[shadow zodiac]

sadist holy shit

[valid lynx]

65 rr per week is way too much

[shadow zodiac]

how

why do you want monarch for only ppl who drop bands

[valid lynx]

We get 200 free from an event dude

[shadow zodiac]

yeah 300k worth of currency

so what

[valid lynx]

Thats still good

[shadow zodiac]

"I want monarch to be special" it still is

[valid lynx]

Nah thr game becomes bland

[shadow zodiac]

how many monarchs you got

[valid lynx]

Then they gotta add more traitless gamemofes

[valid lynx]

1

[shadow zodiac]

I've spent 300 rrs f2p on saber and I've gotten nothing on her

and I spin once on a rare and i get monarch

[teal jasper]

I'm more concerned about being able to roll Monarch on Gogeta

[inner fox]

thats trait balancing fault

not the amount of rrs being given

pretty sure thats the some problem with als and glitched

1 trait simply dominating the compeition

[valid lynx]

ngl ion want this game to become like als where you need overlord minumum to use a unit

[shadow zodiac]

ragna is an anamoly cuz he is nerfed with monarch

so thats fresh ig

[tender lark]

Theres clearly an error of concept of how rerolls were made where 1 and 2 in some cases outclasses the rest.

This is the core of the problem

I think it has been told already

[fading crest]

they are getting nerfed

[glass basin]

The boss events are shifting weekly but that doesn’t mean the rrs are

[finite tide]

fyi, already aware of this, even if it does not get decreased immediately, we have tools that monitor things like RR gain and from what sources, which are being used to determine whether this change is necessary or not

[tawny void]

bro wth is wrong with you delete this 😭

[teal jasper]

lowk it shouldn't be

[marble mortar]

Nah this is fine

You need hundreds of rrs to get good traits anyways

Itd still take weeks to get eth or monarch

[finite tide]

that is something the stats will determine

it is a matter of keeping it in line

[finite tide]

yeah if we're looking SOLELY at the event
but nobody is going to JUST grind the boss event

we have to look at the whole picture

[marble mortar]

Is there a pity for traits

[cold nova]

i literally used 331 rrs on saber and got 2 solars, so 65 a week is normal

also looking at the whole picture the other ways to get rrs are limited cuz achivements or events like dandadan or winter will not reset their stock

raids did 1 time

[marble mortar]

This

Yeah

[cold nova]

yep

[marble mortar]

65 a WEEK is not that much if you need HUNDREDS or even THOUSANDS of rrs for one good trait

[cold nova]

real

[quick igloo]

i got my first monarch after 10 weeks nonstop grinding 😭

[cold nova]

same

I got lucky somehow

i used 300 rr on gojo for ethereal

[marble mortar]

Thats good u can't be complaining

[quick igloo]

and waiting for trait challenge every half hour for 1 rr

[cold nova]

also there's tournaments that not all ppl play but can get some rrs

[cold nova]

i don't

So 65 a week is good tbh

No need to nerf it

[marble mortar]

Is there any other way to get rrs

[quick igloo]

trait challenge 💔

[marble mortar]

Thats a terrible way of getting rrs

[quick igloo]

wait enemy index give 20rr for each map now i forgot

[cold nova]

leaderboards

Achivements are only one time

[marble mortar]

You need to hop into the game every 30 minutes and play for 7 minutes for 1 rr

[cold nova]

uhh the new milestones

[marble mortar]

And its not always trait challenges

[cold nova]

2 at weekends but yeah

[marble mortar]

Yeah

[quick igloo]

after buying all rr from raid-boss-event shop and achievement,level reward this is the only way left 😭

[cold nova]

it is also randomized

[marble mortar]

The way challenges are is pretty flawled

[cold nova]

tournaments tho

es easy to get top 10

or atleast top 25

[marble mortar]

Not everyones gonna or is able to hop into the game for 7 mins every 30 minutes

[cold nova]

yeah

[marble mortar]

Hell nah

[cold nova]

normal challenges are a horrible way to farm some rr

[marble mortar]

You need full monarch teams

You are NOT making it to the lbs

[cold nova]

yeah

so you have the events, boss rush, achivements, tournaments, milestones, lvl milestones, quests, battlepass, challenges, raids

Am im missing something?

[compact flint]

65 rerolls just to get range I nobody finna reduce rerolls

[cold nova]

fr

[compact flint]

still hard to mythic traits or monarchs

[marble mortar]

codes

[compact flint]

spent atleast 500 rerolls and i havent touched 1 ethereal yet

[cold nova]

true

[cold nova]

damn

is hard to go above solar

[verbal cargo]

I feel ya pain 💀🙏

[teal jasper]

Ive spent hundreds and only got Monarch on one unit, take a guess who I got it on ;-;

[compact flint]

taka

[cold nova]

Ragna?

[teal jasper]

bingo

[cold nova]

i have more fear on rolling on him now

[compact flint]

lowk i need igris boss rush shop to come back

[teal jasper]

I rolled Ethereal on him after so 😄

[compact flint]

i aint get to spend the currency

[stone adder]

Eyey made yalls fucking depraved

[cold nova]

W

[stone adder]

65rrs a week is a good thing

Game gets updates with new meta units all the time

[compact flint]

yes

[cold nova]

yeah is fair

[stone adder]

Actually being able to roll good traits on them is a positive

[marble mortar]

"all the time" 💔💔💔💔

[compact flint]

and it aint like you gon get a mythic traits or even blitz in those 65

[marble mortar]

Once a month you mean?

💔

[teal jasper]

I like getting Blitz on atleast every meta unit

[cold nova]

[radiant vault]

you gotta know theres also the weekly tourney rewards

[marble mortar]

Usually 3 must have units every major update

[radiant vault]

70 rrs a week there

[compact flint]

he saying every update there had been there is always a new meta unit

[marble mortar]

Minor updates 0-1

[cold nova]

anyways the point is when new unit come we need more rrs and MOST of the ways to get rrs are limited to ONE time

[stone adder]

Plenty

[compact flint]

those rewards so ahs

[stone adder]

Being able to reasonably get mythic traits on them simply means the trait economy is good

[marble mortar]

Only 1 of them is actually top 7 so nah

[teal jasper]

🙂

[radiant vault]

???

its literally more than boss rush

weekly

[stone adder]

Itspeak

[radiant vault]

65 from boss rush and 70 from tournaments

[marble mortar]

Whatd they do to his model

[cold nova]

like any random could get top 1 bro

[compact flint]

you have to win first place both btw

[cold nova]

You need alucard for most of them

what are you talking about

[marble mortar]

Traits is not happening

[radiant vault]

its been pretty easy to get 1st place

[stone adder]

Gilga model got shafted it's so shit now

[radiant vault]

i have gotten 1st place on the past 5 weeks

[marble mortar]

Only in traitless

[radiant vault]

just play the game and have the units

[compact flint]

other people or good people

[radiant vault]

both are

[cold nova]

Traitless only

[stone adder]

Ye with traits it's yikes

[cold nova]

???

[marble mortar]

Nope

[radiant vault]

barely anyone playing traits

[compact flint]

tourney rewarrs still ahs tho

[marble mortar]

Unless ur lucky

[compact flint]

1st place 35

[stone adder]

Avrg player can js do like 1 match of each bracket and get like 15 rerolls tho it's free rerolls for like 2 games

[compact flint]

needa make it like 60

[radiant vault]

my monarch is literally DEBUFFED this week

and i got first place

its not that hard

[marble mortar]

It was shit before too

[marble mortar]

So you got lucky

Damn

[cold nova]

ill show you the current top 1 on my bracket

[radiant vault]

last 5 weeks?

surely

[cold nova]

yeah

[marble mortar]

You know not everyone gets easy brackets

Or good traits (monarch/eth) on good units

[stone adder]

I liked it tbu

[radiant vault]

i dont even have an ethereal lmao

[stone adder]

ETHEREAL SUBARU : 🗣️

[marble mortar]

monarch

[radiant vault]

1

[cold nova]

show your team rn

[marble mortar]

Good enough if ur this lucky

[chilly quail]

silence

[radiant vault]

couldnt bother joining the game

aura

[stone adder]

Warm.

[compact flint]

they took out igris boss rush right when i grinded it and now i cant get any of the rewards

[compact flint]

missing oht on essence stones and 65 rerolls💔

[finite tide]

This is still ignoring what I just said

You are looking at a single source

Consider all sources when making statements like these

[cold nova]

scroll up

[cold nova]

.

[marble mortar]

Isnt it just boss events and tournaments

And daily challenges

[stone adder]

Your consistent source of rrs get you like 104 a week

Which is pretty good

Like 83 if you don't wanna waste time on inf quests

[cold nova]

yeah

[stone adder]

I think that's reasonable

[marble mortar]

Forgot this

[marble mortar]

Yes

Pretty good

You need hundreds for good traits so it's gonna take several weeks

[teal jasper]

just restart after wave 10 on infinite mode

[cold nova]

How am I suposse to beat this guy on my top 1 traits bracket

[marble mortar]

You don't

[teal jasper]

you wait for Gogeta nerf (it ain't ever coming)

[marble mortar]

@radiant vault

[cold nova]

[marble mortar]

Look at that

Ur NOT getting 1st with a guy like that in ur bracket

[cold nova]

i think he is talking about the wave 50 one tho

btw Minepocket have alucard monarch

so, yeah

only got nerfed this bracket

[teal jasper]

just get top 5 and get Giyu

loses -35% of his damage on ability activation

[cold nova]

top 3 on my bracket

NAH

TOP 4 bruh

i am NOT getting top 5

[waxen wind]

always that one guy with the most dog shittiest takes and suggestions that should genuinely be banned from these channels

[marble mortar]

What

Why would I care about giyu I want the rrs 💔

[teal jasper]

the ability

[marble mortar]

What about it

[marble mortar]

@radiant vault look

You lucky asf

[teal jasper]

"Transforms into another selected tower, cloning all their stats"

[marble mortar]

Yeah but

What's with it

[teal jasper]

transform Giyu into Ragna

[marble mortar]

Why are we talking about him

[stone adder]

Ginyu could've been a pain Astd type unit

Summons the ginyu force

They made him LB tho

[marble mortar]

Astd is so peak 💔

[stone adder]

Wasted

We stan all star tower defense

[marble mortar]

Wouldnt make sense for him to be a unit this update

[cold nova]

true

[marble mortar]

None cares about ginyu and this isnt a db update

[stone adder]

Ye but still wasted

[teal jasper]

they could pull an AyA and make new versions of units

[stone adder]

Bigger waste was seven tho

[chilly quail]

talk somewhere else bro

[marble mortar]

Who even is bro 💔

[stone adder]

I wanted him to be a unit so bad 😭

[cold nova]

wait, he isnt?

i forgot about him

[marble mortar]

I was gonna play this game again just to get Gogeta then I saw his drop chances 💔

[stone adder]

lmao

[stone adder]

He is but it's lb

[marble mortar]

Nah

[stone adder]

And trash stat

[marble mortar]

Why make a unit nobody cares about good

[stone adder]

Why not

[marble mortar]

Like lets be real

Not a single person wanted ginyu to be in this update

[stone adder]

I care more about ginyu than all of the fate roster except gilga cuz I never watched fate it's subjective

[marble mortar]

Like if we hadnt gotten him none would care

[stone adder]

Who the fuck is madea bro nobody asked for her

[stone adder]

Idk bro like

[marble mortar]

She isnt good tho

[stone adder]

I like one piece alot

[marble mortar]

Nah what 💔

[stone adder]

But I'm not going like where the fuck is usopp or Luffy after every update

[cold nova]

she is actually a really good stuner tho

[marble mortar]

You wouldnt even ask for him to be added

If he wasnt added this upd

[stone adder]

Lowk I would

[marble mortar]

Would you even remember he existed

Old ass character

[stone adder]

Cuz ginyu would be a really fucking Funny unit

If he wasn't lb

[marble mortar]

I want dbz but not some random ass character thats not even that strong 💔

[marble mortar]

Oh nah

You WOULD NOT

[stone adder]

I WOULD

[waxen wind]

chat , i feel like Bardock would actually be pretty good

[marble mortar]

So we lying

[stone adder]

I LITERALLY ASKED FOR SCISSOR 7

[marble mortar]

Who?

[stone adder]

THE NAME IS A REFERENCE TO HOW 7 PEOPLE HAVE WATCHED IT TOTAL

[cold nova]

damn

[marble mortar]

Mid

[stone adder]

You know he is a low class warrior

[marble mortar]

Literally not good at anything

The only good fate units are saber, lancer and archer

[waxen wind]

i dont care hes still the goat

[marble mortar]

The rest have no usability

[cold nova]

She is trust me

[marble mortar]

True

[waxen wind]

we would have no Goku if it werent for Goatdock

[stone adder]

Ok what the fuck is the archer glaze from bro

[marble mortar]

I would like to have bardock

[cold nova]

Ishtar is a good starter and have a mini nuke also buffs gilga and saber

[marble mortar]

Crazy good ability

[marble mortar]

All mythics are good starters

Shes useless

Literally useless

[stone adder]

Nobody in the history of ever have ever brought archer to any content

[marble mortar]

Uh true but people glaze the fuck out of the fate units

His ability is good tho

[stone adder]

He got the worst fucking upgrade tree and a mid ability

[marble mortar]

Best of his element

[inner fox]

i do

[marble mortar]

His ability is good

And must have in inf runs

[inner fox]

his abillity is good

[edgy cloak]

I remember early in Av's life, people were *CRYING for farmable rrs

[stone adder]

Idk bro I don't see the ability being good outside of spark

[inner fox]

buffs him

does damage

AND it buffs other units

its good

[cold nova]

same, where did this guy came from bruh

[stone adder]

25% amp for like 15 seconds we hitting alucard numbers on a global cooldown

[marble mortar]

Ngl that applies to a lot of units

Most units are either useless or only usable in 1/2 modes

(lb runs)

[stone adder]

Actually good units get use

[cold nova]

tournaments

[inner fox]

yeah if that was the only buff itd be bad but it buffs him too

[cold nova]

and yeah thats all

[marble mortar]

There's barely any good units rn

[stone adder]

Yeah LB slaves also don't see the light of day

[marble mortar]

Also this

But thats all

Theres very few units your using outside of tournaments

The rest are useless or worse versions of those units

[marble mortar]

So Archer is good

His ability gets use

[stone adder]

No cuz I've done like god knows how many portals when they were difficult

Nobody fucking brought him

I've never seen a video on him either

He is gone from the game

Cuz his upgrade tree is fucking dogshit

[foggy shore]

TLDR: I want to gatekeep monarch and make it a horrible f2p experience to get rrs

[stone adder]

We love eyey trait economy

[cold nova]

archer is good rn cuz it buffs the best unit in the game

[marble mortar]

Your really only using him in lb runs and maybe tournament

His ability is good

[marble mortar]

This applies to most units

[edgy cloak]

Archer + Gogeta = Bombs the shit out of everything

[marble mortar]

With some utility

[cold nova]

yeah, crazy combo

[marble mortar]

Gogeta by himself does that

[cold nova]

imagine a blast tournament or holy rn

[stone adder]

I mean this is fair but also LB runs is not something most people are doing and he is gonna be limited to his element getting buffed to have a tourney niche

[cold nova]

Gets absolutely demolished by ragna and gogeta

[stone adder]

Like I play the baseline content of the game I think

[marble mortar]

Theyre blast?

Gogeta and ragna

[stone adder]

Gilga cu saber get a fuck of use cuz they're all rly good

Archer gets none

[cold nova]

gogeta blast and ragna is holy

[marble mortar]

WRONG

[olive cargo]

Fr we need this game to be like a²

[marble mortar]

Same applies for Archer

And literally any unit

[olive cargo]

Rework Fortune

[marble mortar]

Gilga has no utility

[olive cargo]

Make Fortune 0.15%

[stone adder]

Nobody bringing Naruto bro

Gilga utility is stats

[marble mortar]

Nobody uses gilga 💔

[stone adder]

And nuke

[olive cargo]

Make Etherial buff dmg be 25%

[cold nova]

Gilga is op wdym

[marble mortar]

He's outclassed by a few units rn

[olive cargo]

Remove Deadeye

[marble mortar]

Decent at best

Not even top 10 tbh

[foggy shore]

buff monarch by 10x and make having it a monthly subscription

[stone adder]

Bro go do portals w people I don't think I had a game without a gilga for the 6-7 hours of portals grinding I did with randoms

[cold nova]

he is

[marble mortar]

Bro i'm not playing portals thats so fucking boring 💔

[cold nova]

top 5 rn is probably gogeta, ragna, alucard, gojo, gilga

[marble mortar]

Thats also just one mode

[marble mortar]

This is an absolutely horrendous take

[stone adder]

Idk what else that isn't lb

SBR raid is too easy who cares

[cold nova]

how?

[stone adder]

Legend and stories same shit

[marble mortar]

Yeah

No utility

[inland plover]

yo like highkey stfu

[marble mortar]

There are units that do what he does but better

[stone adder]

Worldlines is cool and I think he is p good there

[marble mortar]

So hes uselss

[stone adder]

Not even close to what I said

Im saying other content is too easy for me to care abt

Portals were acc difficult and gilga was good unsurprisingly

[inner fox]

pretty sure thats cause hes the easiest secret to obtain

[stone adder]

I mean yeah but archer is literally a gem banner

Saber is also a gem banner saber is seen alot too

[marble mortar]

Your really only using archer on inf lb runs

Same for gilgamesh

But Archer is more useful

[inner fox]

ima keep it real with you some people would just look at rarity or damage and plop them onto their team

[stone adder]

I saw archer in game once and it was from my friend deadass

[marble mortar]

Yeah

@stone adder this the randoms u were playing with

[marble mortar]

^^

[stone adder]

Shit not loading

[marble mortar]

💔😭🙏

[cold nova]

crazy

[stone adder]

I mean is that even valid archer does good dps

[marble mortar]

Not the best

[cold nova]

actually i was wrong, gilga is top 6

[stone adder]

But he fucking sucks to use

So nobody does it

[marble mortar]

Just because u aint like him doesnt mean hes bad 💔

[stone adder]

Same w valentine he had highest DPS on release but he was dogshit so nobody used him

[marble mortar]

Not even top 10

[stone adder]

Worst upgrade tree ever

[marble mortar]

This is literally gilgamesh

[stone adder]

No I'm talking objectively

[cold nova]

how? tell me what is in the top 10

[marble mortar]

His ability carries him so hard

[edgy cloak]

I have archer with eth, 0 ascensions. Since his ability is global and has a long CD, the ability can only really be used to boss kill due to horrid uptime

[marble mortar]

And even then its not that good

[valid lynx]

i am f2p lmao

[stone adder]

Sam do you think gojo is dogshit outside of ts

[valid lynx]

its just that getting monarch doesnt even feel that cool no more

game becomes more bland since the game is scaled for non monarchs

[cold nova]

aye aye has done something really bad to you

[edgy cloak]

I only have 1 monarch and it still feels cool to me :v

[valid lynx]

either they start scaling for harder stages and better traits

or they give less rr

[foggy shore]

you know not everybody has this opinion right

[stone adder]

Not trusting anyone that thinks Valentine is above D tier (image js loaded)

[foggy shore]

monarch still feels special for quite a lot of people

[valid lynx]

doesnt matter, the stages are still way to easy with monarch

[marble mortar]

Immune to status ailments, good rng, 80k to get full aoe

Useless but not bad

[foggy shore]

so ur issue is getting harder modes

not a RR nerf

[valid lynx]

i own one monarch and ofc i want more, but 65 every week for a 4 hour task is crazy

[marble mortar]

That took fucking minutes

[stone adder]

This applies to gilga too tho I don't get why you shit on him so hard

[edgy cloak]

Oof….nobody wants to go down the ALS route. Sounds like a false dichotomy tho

[stone adder]

Immune to cc better range and gets cone at like 80k

What's the issue

[marble mortar]

I said hes useless

Not top 10

Hes literally useless u said it

[edgy cloak]

Gojo and useless in the same sentence? Sam can you please drop your top 5 units

[cold nova]

Who is your top 10

[stone adder]

I think gojo is dog shit now cuz of rem but gilga still has a niche

[marble mortar]

Not the best at anything and his ability is only good in inf lb runs

[marble mortar]

Gojo without ts

[inner fox]

what

[stone adder]

If we wanna talk about dogshit look at sukuna

[edgy cloak]

OH

[valid lynx]

i think 200rr from the event is sick but like make boss rush harder or sum cuz most people m@cro it

[inner fox]

how does rem negate gojo being good

[marble mortar]

Real shit

[inner fox]

also whose rem

[cold nova]

Archer without his ability 🔥

[marble mortar]

They disrespected my goat so bad 💔

[inner fox]

hollow purple nuke but no world cutting slash 💔

[edgy cloak]

Ok without ts I can see why you think he’s bad, his innate spa is terrible but why are we ranking him without his ability…? I’m sorry I jumped in mid convo.

[marble mortar]

What is your top 10

[inner fox]

both literally happened in the same chapter

[valid lynx]

"meta for a long time" - andre, and then they proceed to release saber whos much better in every way

[marble mortar]

Thats shibuya sukuna

[stone adder]

Full aoe with like half of gojo's cost

[cold nova]

you first, i said my top 6

[marble mortar]

So it makes sense

[inner fox]

it doesnt

becuase thats also shibuya gojo

[edgy cloak]

Andre is gone and his vision is no longer being followed

[inner fox]

but he has hollow purple nuke

[marble mortar]

Gojo can do that

Even in shibuya

He just didnt do it

[stone adder]

Gilga is a strict upgrade to sukuna other than his bleed passive

[cold nova]

true

[edgy cloak]

He and dreamy wanted it add grinder game modes and legend stages (Igris grind for example). Core team didn’t want that and wanted game modes, so Andre left

[stone adder]

Better damage better range better nuke

[cold nova]

we getting heian sukuna as a vanguard at some point 🔥

[stone adder]

Lmfao

[valid lynx]

how good is gogeta, i havent seen a showcase yet

[inner fox]

never shown until later though lame to give gojo his max power and then leave sukuna at less than half his potential

[marble mortar]

I hope

[inner fox]

very

[compact flint]

1 placement very good tho

[cold nova]

top 1 dmg unit rn

[edgy cloak]

Broken as broken can be

[valid lynx]

wanna grind for him but im tryna get buddah in -AA first

[marble mortar]

Less than half is a massive understatement

Heian Sukuna is far superior than Gojo

[valid lynx]

weve never actually seen a full powered heian sukuna

[marble mortar]

And TF Sukuna could easily be the best unit

He has 10 Shadows, shrine, WCS and his true body

[marble mortar]

We know it's his prime

Thats enough

[valid lynx]

doesnt he lose 10 shadows in heian?

[marble mortar]

He lost them cuz of Mahoraga getting destroyed I think

I mean he could incarnate at any given moment so it still makes sense

[valid lynx]

lwky he would be a fire vangaurd but i hope they make him a quest instead of rng

[marble mortar]

Goated idea

[marble mortar]

Meguna is also superior to Gojo anyways

And TF Sukuna is superior to Meguna

Significantly superior

[valid lynx]

eh, meguna is a lil weaker id say

[marble mortar]

Nah

[valid lynx]

he js not that strong physically

and gets dogged on in h2h

[marble mortar]

Uh true

[marble mortar]

Not dogged

He kept up with Gojo

With a significantly weaker body

[olive cargo]

Gojo if he diffed earlier

[marble mortar]

Megumi is 15 you know

He had the body of a 15 year old

And kept up with Gojo

Imagine what he'd do to gojo with his tf 💀

[marble mortar]

Wym

[olive cargo]

The Maho

[teal jasper]

10/10 ragebait post

[waxen wind]

alucard at 5 is crazy 💔

bro is still #1 imo because he literally makes every single unit do even more amazing

Wounded alone is one of the most insane debuffs a unit can even apply

[teal jasper]

fr the top 5 as of now is

1. Alucard
2. Ragna
3. Saber
4. Rem & Ram
5. Haruka/Subaru

[hazy yew]

Gogeta?

[teal jasper]

Gogeta is in a league of his own

[waxen wind]

i think id do
Alucard
Gogeta
Ragna
Saber
Haruka/Subaru

[hazy yew]

😭

[teal jasper]

Like he's 0th place

[hazy yew]

Bro is super 1st 😭

[waxen wind]

(havent used Rem and Ram)

are they cracked

[hazy yew]

They are BUSTED for progressive

[teal jasper]

He's legit the alpha and omega

[hazy yew]

really good damage for really cheap

[waxen wind]

bet ima evolve them then

[stone adder]

WHAT TOP 5 ARE YOU SMOKING ON KENDRICK

CUZ MY TOP 5 IS JOGO JOGO JOGO JOGO JOGO

[teal jasper]

like this my tier list

[hazy yew]

My personal top 5 would be
Alu/Gogeta
Saber
Ragna
Gojo
Rem/Ram

[hazy yew]

Pweeny in fodder is criminal 🙏

[olive cargo]

Its just me or Gogeta is SO UGLY when you compare to the other models?

[hazy yew]

WHY DOES HE HAVE A SQUARE FACE LMFAO

btw what does dodara do

or whatever his name is

[stone adder]

Fubuki is a really good support

[olive cargo]

Passive?

[teal jasper]

Hes a three placement stun unit that has a damage nuke ability that resets his upgrades after activating

[stone adder]

-5% spa is comparable to damage buff Subaru gives cuz most units don't reduce their spa multiplier

[hazy yew]

Eh not really. Only time ill ever use her is to buff up ragna. Other than that other supports are just 10x better

[hazy yew]

-5% spa is NOT equal to +20% dmg

[teal jasper]

She's only great for stacking SPA buffs on Ragna

her freeze capabilities are outclassed by Emilia's

[stone adder]

10% variant

[hazy yew]

even then

thats just less damage

[olive cargo]

Before I glazed over Als traits
Now i gonna say the Av traits is so balanced wth

[hazy yew]

less dps*

[olive cargo]

You can actually farm traits

[stone adder]

It's not if the unit buffs their damage with a passive

[stone adder]

Yeah trait economy is good

[olive cargo]

And the traits doesnt do power creep

[hazy yew]

mhm

[teal jasper]

Fubuki getting Ragna like 25% of his DPS

[stone adder]

Ok with allat talk how is Ishtar and julias meta support

[hazy yew]

technically 20% since she only buffs him by 20% total

[stone adder]

Idc ABT Johnny at all but

Julias is fucking homeless bro

[hazy yew]

Julias is still meta imo

not as good as emelia, but still good

[stone adder]

Mid DPS freeze is owned by like 5 units now

[teal jasper]

lowkey I forgot to relocate him, Ishtar's still meta if you run Gilga ig

[stone adder]

Ishtar is also js worse than Subaru even on fate units

And worse than fubuki cuz less utility and similar amp

[teal jasper]

Fubuki's utility is hot garbage

[olive cargo]

And no good slows

[hazy yew]

fr we need more slow representation 😭

[stone adder]

Ishtar utility is her multi hit on placement and that's it

[hazy raptor]

ranga beats teh living shit of gogeta

[hazy yew]

😭

bro doesn't know 🙏

[stone adder]

Fubuki does freeze and remove cc

[olive cargo]

What Ishtar even do?

[stone adder]

That's the neat part

[hazy raptor]

100k dps vro

per placement

[teal jasper]

+12% damage to fate units, has a damage nuke

[hazy yew]

Ragna doesn't do 100k dps.

and yk you can only place 1 right?

[teal jasper]

in portals yeah,

[stone adder]

Ragna on ethereal is probably a free 40k dps

Broken ass unit

[hazy yew]

my lvl 31 does 31k dps 🤷

[olive cargo]

Meh

[hazy raptor]

dont tell me

[stone adder]

Yeah crazy shit

[hazy raptor]

gogeta has more dps

[stone adder]

Way more

[hazy yew]

pretty sure he does

[stone adder]

On monarch atleast

[teal jasper]

this some bullshit

[stone adder]

Otherwise nah

Bro got wiped

[hazy yew]

bro

snowflakes

are not 5%

they are like as rare as secrets/vanguards bro

[stone adder]

Bro I got like 5 of em constantly

[hazy yew]

I HAVEN"T GOTTEN ONE IN NEARLY 50 RUNS BR

BRO

[stone adder]

They shoulda made a pity tho

[hazy yew]

😭 please devs

[teal jasper]

I have better odds of my game glitching and giving me Subaru a 3rd time than getting a snowflake

[hazy yew]

better odds of getting me monarch gogeta with a 10 pull and 5 rrs 😭

[olive cargo]

Should I grind the winter event or the Dandadan event

Cause like

[teal jasper]

winter event for better units, dandadan for miku skin

[olive cargo]

I want Saiko

[marble mortar]

Wdym?

I really dont get wtf ur saying

Please enlighten me

[olive cargo]

MAHORAGA HELP ME!!!

[marble mortar]

Bro

Nah

Mahoraga did more for Gojo than for Sukuna

💔

[hazy yew]

LMAO

Megumi trying to spawn Mahoraga because he tripped 🙏

[marble mortar]

Im deadass

Mahoraga carried Gojo

[hazy yew]

Ehhhhh

not really

[marble mortar]

Yes really

[hazy yew]

if Mahoraga wasn't there Gojo would've won bro

[marble mortar]

Nah

[hazy yew]

Sukuna wouldn't have gotten WCS in time

[marble mortar]

Mahoraga was the reason Sukuna was holding back the entire fight

[hazy yew]

and the rolls would've been reversed

Sukuna would've gotten offscreened

[marble mortar]

Sukuna would have killed Gojo after the 5th domain Clash

[hazy yew]

wait was this said anywhere? cuz i dont remember anything like that

it might just be me being slow though

[hazy yew]

nothing there says that he was holding back? only that he was using Mahoraga as a model which is why he won

[marble mortar]

Literally no reading comprehension

[hazy yew]

ur right im horrible at reading 😭

[marble mortar]

I really hope ur ragebaiting

[olive cargo]

Gojo is the math test,Sukuna is the student and Mahoraga is the Chat GPT

[teal jasper]

we can tell 😭

[marble mortar]

The image tells u everything

[hazy yew]

thats wild 😭

[teal jasper]

tbh all I know about JJK is how the fandom likes shipping Gojo with Geto

[marble mortar]

Thats actually a really good analogy of the fight

[hazy yew]

😭

[marble mortar]

Just Sukuna using Mahoraga to get stronger

[marble mortar]

What

Thats not all the fandom

💔

[waxen wind]

JJK is good if you ignore its ass writing

the fights are good

[marble mortar]

Its good writing

[waxen wind]

the writing is straight ass

😭

[marble mortar]

Its only issue is the fact it lasted like 270 chapters

[waxen wind]

good writing peaked at Toji and thats it

[marble mortar]

Jjk could have easily had 500+ chapters

[waxen wind]

idk why Mangakas scared to have long mangas

bro thats what makes it special

good writing and world building matter

smh

[marble mortar]

Gege didnt like jjk

[waxen wind]

why?

[marble mortar]

Like thats the only reason

[marble mortar]

He was tired of it or sum

[marble mortar]

Being a mangaka is hard

Bro 💀

Thats hard asf

[hazy yew]

People hella underrated how hard it is to be a mangaka

[waxen wind]

i dont doubt it

[marble mortar]

Specially shonen jump

[hazy yew]

It honestly might be one of the hardest jobs that people think they want to have

[marble mortar]

Imagine releasing weekly chapters and they won't even let u tell the story you actually want to write

[waxen wind]

Goat Piece will always be peak fiction.

[hazy yew]

Fr 😭

[marble mortar]

It isnt

[hazy yew]

and then on top of that drawing the chapters too

[marble mortar]

It's only issue is bad pacing

[hazy yew]

even with digital assistance its still absurdly difficult

[marble mortar]

If the manga had good pacing it would be peak

But it doesnt

[hazy yew]

It isn't peak because of the pacing, but once its fixed its peak

[waxen wind]

the manga does have good pacing, the anime doesnt

[marble mortar]

Not always

[hazy yew]

not really

[marble mortar]

Bro 💀

[hazy yew]

the manga was tiring for me to get through

[marble mortar]

The mangas pacing isnt good

The animes just awful

[marble mortar]

Shinjuku

Or shibuya

[hazy yew]

isn't the anime getting redone or whatever

[marble mortar]

Probably shinjuku

[marble mortar]

Yes

[waxen wind]

ye

[marble mortar]

Itll fix one piece's only issue

And fix the anime

[hazy yew]

Probably not gonna watch it since im a manga person, but I do hope its good

[waxen wind]

its being made by the people who made Attack on Titan

[marble mortar]

THAT is peak fiction

[waxen wind]

another piece of peak fiction

AoT is so gas

[hazy yew]

What is the worst manga of the big 3?

[waxen wind]

ermmmm

idk cause theyre all good in their own way

[hazy yew]

imo i personally think that naruto is my least favorite, but i could see why people think bleach is the worst

[marble mortar]

One Piece>Naruto=>Bleach

[waxen wind]

is that worst to best or best to worst?

[hazy yew]

I honestly never really liked naruto

[marble mortar]

I'm like 300 episodes in One Piece yet its my favourite

[hazy yew]

best to worst pretty sure

[marble mortar]

Are u genuinely asking

[waxen wind]

One Piece is so good bro

[marble mortar]

What do u think ">" means

[waxen wind]

you right

[marble mortar]

The manga is

The anime not so much the pacing is actually horrendous

So is the animation

[waxen wind]

im on Egghead rn. Wano to Egghead have amazing paccing and animation

Esp wano

wano is so beautiful bro

[hazy yew]

im caught up on the manga

[marble mortar]

Only wano and onwards have good animation

I'm on ep 350~ and ts is so awful

[waxen wind]

debatable. Zou and Whole Cake have good animation

Dressrosa is good, but the pacing ruins it

[marble mortar]

Decent

[hazy yew]

I can only pray for you 🙏

[marble mortar]

Only in few episodes

Awful consistency before wano

[waxen wind]

20th Rebecca flashback 💔

[marble mortar]

After Wano its peak though so thats why Ima keep watching

[marble mortar]

Just skip it

Ive skipped like 30 boring ass episodes not gonna lie

Some are actually awful

Like the worst piece of fiction Ive seen in my life

[waxen wind]

i completely skipped the second half of fishman island

shitman island is sooo

fucking

ass

i really dont know what Oda thought he was doing

but he wasnt doing shit

[marble mortar]

Shut the fuck up bro 💔

Oda's a genius

Everything is peak 💔 (uh mostly)

The anime messes it up

[marble mortar]

Isnt that like 30 episodes

Bruh

[waxen wind]

Fishmand Island? Hell nah

fuck fishman island its so bad

jesus

[marble mortar]

Why is it so bad bro 💔

[hazy yew]

i think bro hates fishman island 🙏

[waxen wind]

dude it takes such a very tragic country filled with misfortunate and racism, and just ruins all of it seriouness with a fucking pdf and sanjis' gag completely ruining the tension and the great backstory of fishmen

like why are you ruining a great concept ?

it took the whole situation lightly

[marble mortar]

Dawg isnt that like most islands they go to

[waxen wind]

No?

[marble mortar]

Like actually

Its hell everywhere in one piece

[waxen wind]

Fishmen are the most discriminated race in all of One Piece. Bro you read the manga dont you???

I dont wanna spoil anything if you do

[marble mortar]

Misfortune and racism's everywhere in one piece bro 💔

[waxen wind]

literally its not

[marble mortar]

Like the life of a normal person is so shit

[waxen wind]

Misfortune yea sure

racism?

absolutely not

Fishmen are treated so shit compared to the avg person in one piece

[marble mortar]

Literally everyone is treated horribly

Who would wanna live in one piece

Imagine all of a sudden some people kidnap your entire village, sell you as slaves and you get tortured as that for years

[waxen wind]

😭

[marble mortar]

This can literally happen anywhere

[hazy yew]

and Fishman are treated even more horribly on top of that 😭

[waxen wind]

THIS BRO

[marble mortar]

Bro 💔

[hazy yew]

Fishman are a lot more sought after as slaves n shit

[waxen wind]

they genuinely treat them like fucking dirt

despite being one of the most beautiful creatures literally in the world

for Mermaids alone

theyre the most valuable

[marble mortar]

glaze

[waxen wind]

no bro thats just how it is ?

[hazy yew]

Im pretty sure thats supposed to be an in lore thing 😭

[marble mortar]

I don't care

They aint allat

[hazy yew]

If anyones glazing its oda

[waxen wind]

i dont think she enjoys Mermaids

[compact flint]

ts ts ts noo

[lapis tulip]

dont. we want rr

[runic plank]

already planned to be nerfed

[valid lynx]

tas goo

[olive cargo]

[foggy shore]

is it still gonna be weekly rrs

[runic plank]

yes

[foggy shore]

thats not too bad then

i suppose

[marble mortar]

💀

[tender lark]

Sad times

Preferably no less than 30 tho

[spring carbon]

So cool

The devs never check out way better suggestions

But when smt like this pops up

which can get them more bands

They reply asap

there's so many other suggestions rotting in here bro u can js reply to them 😭

rather than confirming smt thats pretty stupid

[marble mortar]

Real shit

This suggestion is genuinely awful

[spring carbon]

yep

[marble mortar]

They probably see them

[runic plank]

it's 30

[runic plank]

???

65 rrs a week is way too much

[marble mortar]

Not way too much

[runic plank]

it is

[marble mortar]

No

[runic plank]

260 rrs a month

[marble mortar]

Thats not enough to get a good trait

[spring carbon]

u realise tournaments can get u 70 a week

[runic plank]

only if you are the best

[marble mortar]

Getting 1st in traits is way too hard unless ur lucky asf

[spring carbon]

how much do p2-p5 get

20?

[tender lark]

I think so

[glad loom]

no

stfu

[glad loom]

are you stupid?

they're not giving us 65 rr per week

[valid lynx]

Yes they are

[glad loom]

no they arent

[valid lynx]

Boss rush shop gives 65

Resets weekly

Tf you mean no they arent

[glad loom]

we don't know if theyre restocking shop weekly

[valid lynx]

Im not asking for weekly rr to be removed but 30-40 would be a better number

[glad loom]

because ten

[valid lynx]

Pretty sure they are since someone told me its confirmed being nerfed

[glad loom]

that person is lying

because that means

140 rerolls per week??

which is a LOT

so they arent going restock boss rush like that

[valid lynx]

Leni is a tester and question helper and she confirmed it so its prolly true

[valid lynx]

Thats why it confirmed getting nerfef

[glad loom]

I agree

• his idle

[glad loom]

deidera?
nuke

[hasty compass]

keep it at 65 but increase the cost

[glad loom]

how about

keep it but make it harder to get monarch?

@valid lynx

[lapis tulip]

no one wants, the person who made this suggestion should find a job or just play other gamew

[valid lynx]

?

You want everything to be easy as shit

[tender lark]

How about we delete rerolls then

[valid lynx]

If they give is this many rr, they gotta scale to monarch for anyone to actually have to try on anything

[tender lark]

Why are all your ideas like this

[valid lynx]

And scaling like that will lead to another als

Anyways

Nobody needs to write anything since this feature is confirmed

[void dock]

uh, is it confirm we can get 65 rrs every week?

[valid lynx]

Yea boss rush gives you 65

Hpepfully they nerf it to like 30 where its still decent but not broken

[void dock]

like I mean, if igris comes again, then does the rr we bought reset?

[valid lynx]

Yes

Pyseph confirmed it

[void dock]

oh dang

[wanton iron]

They should keep it at 65

[void dock]

tbf, rr doesn't effect boss rush or tournament that much

[wanton iron]

Those who put the effort into grinding all 65 deserve it

[void dock]

and it's a long grind for 65

[valid lynx]

It takes 4 hours

[tender lark]

It just takes an average of 3 hours

[valid lynx]

And most people just m@cro it

[hazy raptor]

make it less time fr

and lower rewards

[tender lark]

I mean, im fine with grinding 2-3 hours weekly for 35 rerolls.

I can see the problem that brings balancing the game around monarch aswell

Even tho i hate the idea of winning less rr

[modest gyro]

no

[glad loom]

its nerfed

@runic plank said theyll be nerfing it to 30 rr

[edgy cloak]

No fucking way. You can't be serious.
WHY are they nerfing this shit? Weren't people asking for farmable rrs since the start?

I mean, it's not the end of the world- but I doubt casual players will be farming out the whole 65rr shop weekly

[olive cargo]

Instead of nerfing the rerolls

Lets increase the price to buy one

[tender lark]

Encourages more mango

[olive cargo]

Remove all qol about not needing to be on loading screens to go to a stage/replay

[glad loom]

no, that's even worse

[olive cargo]

Make profit of little kids and boom

Peak gambling

[glad loom]

devs don't earn moneyl ike that

[edgy cloak]

I'm fine with this. Anything lower than that is questionable

[olive cargo]

~210 per month its ok

[cold nova]

bro i used 331 rrs on saber and got 2 solars

why the nerf

It is fine 260 rrs a month

[marble mortar]

[runic plank]

260 + everything else

260 from just boss rush is not fine lol

it's way too much

for not alot of work

[marble mortar]

Most people mаcro most of the games content

[marble mortar]

You still need much more than that for one good trait, it's not even a guaranteed you'll get one after spending over 1k rrs

[runic plank]

?

avg rrs for monarch or ethereal is 363

[marble mortar]

Average

Nothing guarantees you'll actually get them in just 363

[runic plank]

yes, that's the best metric

I'm not going to waste more time debating

[marble mortar]

Alright

[marble mortar]

Why they won't add pity for alucard

[cold nova]

one time only??

[tender lark]

48 rr from x2 challenges i think

[marble mortar]

Tournaments, daily challenges n daily quests or whatever its called

[tender lark]

If you do them all in a month

[cold nova]

yeah at best you can get like 500 in month i think

[severe rivet]

this ones opinion... is fucking mid!

[marble mortar]

Thats so few 💔

By the time youve spent half the unit ur using them on might be out of meta

[edgy cloak]

On one hand, I get it. They don't want to become Als, where everyone has overlord+ and then the game has to become balanced around OP traits.

On the other, idk if the nerf is truly necessary. They're factoring in all content that gives rrs (including challenges), but who is realistically grinding all of that in a month?? I've also heard horror stories of someone spending 1k rrs and no monarch

[marble mortar]

No one is grinding all of that in a month

[cold nova]

i saw a guy video where he used 2k rrs to try to get monarch gojo and didnt get it

[tender lark]

I also heard funny stories of someone getting 4 monarchs in 200 rr

[marble mortar]

Yeah this is why 500 a MONTH aint enough

Too few

The unit might even be out of meta in a month

[marble mortar]

Not everyones gonna grind everything in this game every month

Also 500 isnt enough

If 363 is the avg on monarch then ur probably not getting it

Thats in a month though, by the time you get enough rrs the unit might be out of meta

Monarch and ethereal will still be rare traits

The nerf is NOT necessary

[compact flint]

no tf it would not

[valid lynx]

Its being nerfed so its gotta be nerfed to smtg

[compact flint]

should not be nerfed

[glad loom]

bro

u can get 140+ rr per week

if they keep this up

with the tourneys

[compact flint]

buff tourneys

[glad loom]

• monarchs wont feel rewarding

[compact flint]

its a 0.1% chance its gonna feel rewarding

[severe rivet]

its gambling who cares still a good dopamine rush

[teal jasper]

Gogeta and Ragna should get nerfed imo

[severe rivet]

all the damn same

[compact flint]

u can literally spin 1000 rerolls and not get one

and if u get 140 a week

[severe rivet]

exactly btw

[compact flint]

and dont get monarchs UNTIL 1000 REROLLS

THATS LIKE a month and some weeks without rerolls

i have player this game since it released for the first second

and i have not touched 1 ethereal or monarch

spent atleast 600 rerolls

[teal jasper]

I've played this game since release and only rolled monarch once

[compact flint]

does not need to be nerfed

game is boring without good traits

[fossil egret]

you get like 100+ rrs per week with tournament and boss rush but who care there are many units that have unfair passives with monarch like diavolo and gogeta also meta change every upd those rrs seem fair

[compact flint]

and there is a possible chance you spend 5k rerolls to get monarchs

[severe rivet]

shits still pretty new so metas gonna be changing alot

[compact flint]

they needa buff rerolls

[fossil egret]

they don't

[compact flint]

yes

[fossil egret]

just keep it

[compact flint]

no

spent 600 700 rerolls no ethereal or monarch

[fossil egret]

this game will become anime last stand or whatever if they do it

[compact flint]

game is boring without good traits tbh

they wont

[severe rivet]

and als still has like 17k players so what?

[fossil egret]

so game is no becoming boring when it's easier?

[compact flint]

it can still be hard

just cuz u have monarchs dont mean u can solo something

i mean u might

atleast add a way to actively farm it day by day

[severe rivet]

i fail to see the issue with als giving out rrs with how rare glitched is anyway isnt that shit like 0.03%?

[compact flint]

i mean i cant complain ig

[glad loom]

that doesnt mean they should keep it..?

just because u failed ot get a monarch within 400 rr doesnt make this suggestion any better

[compact flint]

yes it is

[compact flint]

yes it does

[fossil egret]

we also have x2 weenkend buff i ain't want to see any higher trait in this game

that's just your luck issues

[glad loom]

he's rage baiting tbh

because if they keep this then they will just make monarch harder to get

or add more traits to the pool

[valid lynx]

Needing a good trait on a unit to use it is the most shit balancing ive ever heard