i know units arent people thats not the point of the analogy
#Vangaurd Units Too Hard
knotty spade
the only reason i made post about the time it takes to get the unit is because i choose to play this game and not the other one, i like this game better and i want whats better for the game and players to come so that everyone can enjoy the game
fresh venture
the only reason i made post about the time it takes to get the unit is because i...
"and i want whats better for the game and players to come"
knotty spade
😐
tacit sparrow
they will never make it easier
just dont grind for it if u dont want to
i gave up alredy 
drifting otter
Id like to see you get every new vanguard units they release after consistently
Basic game balancing outta the window
Atleast tone down the powercreep 😭💔
Ts a damn wall
The devs js too greedy ig
Its not like they made banks off of “that game” hype on the release or smth
“That game”’s successor my ahh ts gotta be a cheap knockoff
Like why does the most useful units either unob, extremely rare or both
tacit sparrow
Basic game balancing outta the window
hes circle aoe bro
ignore inf u need like 6 monarchs for lb , just do tournaments
all u need is full aoe units
alucard , gojo , tengen , igris
tacit sparrow
we never getting gogeta just forget 💀
drifting otter
we never getting gogeta just forget 💀
Oh ye that too
tacit sparrow
Oh ye that too
ragna 1 percent so its kinda attainable
300k presents and still havent gotten him tho
drifting otter
Imagine the main attraction of a theme park is the dang lottery stall
Cuz thats what this upd feels like
cosmic kettle
ANIME VANGUARD SUCKS
THE TOP TD GAME STARTS WITH A
I GOT UNQUIE DI OH OVER HEAVEN
BEAT THAT
primal hearth
THE TOP TD GAME STARTS WITH A
glaze
latent kindle
THE TOP TD GAME STARTS WITH A
tthat game is even worse
polar hemlock
THE TOP TD GAME STARTS WITH A
ALL STAR TOWER DEFENSE
night dome
Declined rip
tacit sparrow
for 1 percent 💀
spiral yew
1728 runs for an igris....
brother you are not cooked. you are deep fried, boiled, and skinned alive
heavy mountain
Yes
regal olive
Supporting leeching is wild
I swear almost everything that comes out of that man’s mouth is nonsense or rage bait
latent kindle
I swear almost everything that comes out of that man’s mouth is nonsense or rage...
dude said to pay for a macrow if i wanted gogeta
smoky cargo
Not bad but make it difficult
strong axle
THE TOP TD GAME STARTS WITH A
1/80k event units wow so good
💀
doesnt deserve 100k active atm
spiral yew
THE TOP TD GAME STARTS WITH A
what level of delusion does this put you at in the psych ward?
spiral yew
doesnt deserve 100k active atm
100K "Active" people but 80K of them are bots
strong axle
100K "Active" people but 80K of them are bots
true!
young wyvern
you cant say f2p dont get it if you dont even grind for it actively. if you still dont get it its just unlucky, there is no need to nerf vanguard units rarity
spiral yew
you cant say f2p dont get it if you dont even grind for it actively. if you stil...
You also have to take in consideration that people dont have time to do it. Although im personally split about it, i think they could possibly find a better solution of obtaining the unit. like they did with making the currency easier to get, without directly altering the chances of the unit itself
regal olive
You also have to take in consideration that people dont have time to do it. Alth...
Just add soft pity but never hard pity
spiral yew
Just add soft pity but never hard pity
like once you hit the soft pity the chances get just a bit higher? what is soft pity i never heard of that
regal olive
like once you hit the soft pity the chances get just a bit higher? what is soft ...
Pretty much what you described, at a certain amount of draws the chances increase
spiral yew
ah ok
regal olive
Would still make it rare and not garuntee it
spiral yew
im not against anything really. Event Units should be a want for all with reasonable obtainment methods. I would hard disagree if this were like a raid unit, lb unit, or a tourney unit
Im glad Gogeta is hella good though. I think players should be rewarded with units that are amazing that they dedicated their time into
latent kindle
Just add soft pity but never hard pity
should make it so you can pay a pretty high amount to slowly increase his banner rate
that would be the form of soft pity
like 120k or so snowflakes
regal olive
like 120k or so snowflakes
Paying snowflakes would lowkey be a good idea
gusty crypt
ofc Devs declined this
regal olive
ofc Devs declined this
Well at the end of the day they gotta make some money
gusty crypt
Well at the end of the day they gotta make some money
lol they are not making enought money this way
latent kindle
Well at the end of the day they gotta make some money
imo a long but encouraging grind would make you more than a grind that demoralizes you and just makes you drop the update
gusty crypt
lol they are not making enought money this way
most people quit the game not becuse of it pay2win they quit becuse off Updates no one wants bad chances ext.
regal olive
lol they are not making enought money this way
Well by making people grind for the unit they get premium payout
- for some people who buy presents for some reason
gusty crypt
most people quit the game not becuse of it pay2win they quit becuse off Updates ...
Everyone wanted the Gogeta unit thats why AV had 40k player count then when people seen the rates they leftr
regal olive
imo a long but encouraging grind would make you more than a grind that demora...
Well that’s also true
gusty crypt
Well by making people grind for the unit they get premium payout
whould yoiu rather have 17k players grind for about 100 hours or 40k players grind for 40 hours?
regal olive
Both would equate to the same amount of profit
Well the ladder most likely having a bit more profit
gusty crypt
Well the ladder most likely having a bit more profit
lets be real if you have more than 40k players then you are on the top page of roblox that means even more people whould play the game
regal olive
lets be real if you have more than 40k players then you are on the top page of r...
17k is also good?
gusty crypt
17k is also good?
nah
gusty crypt
Mabye a good amount
more than half of the players instanly left after the update droped
gusty crypt
more than half of the players instanly left after the update droped
and seen the rates + how bad the update was
gusty crypt
How is 17k not good????
dont forget Av had more then 200k players on relasse
regal olive
dont forget Av had more then 200k players on relasse
Most games can’t even get over 2k cc players
Let alone 1k
gusty crypt
Most games can’t even get over 2k cc players
yea becuse most games dont have the proper devs
regal olive
yea becuse most games dont have the proper devs
So?
regal olive
Guilt gear barley gets over 3K players a day
gusty crypt
litteralyl almost psx have the same amount when they abandoned that game
regal olive
And they have a proper dev team
latent kindle
Well by making people grind for the unit they get premium payout
by having dookie rates?
not how you do it
everyone im friends with already said they arent farming for it and are just gonna stop playing until next update once they get ragna
gusty crypt
And they have a proper dev team
Do you think AV had a downfall?
regal olive
by having dookie rates?
Well I’m not the one making the decisions I’m just stating some reasons on why the rates are prolly shit I also think the rates a horrible
regal olive
Do you think AV had a downfall?
It definitely did?
gusty crypt
It definitely did?
can i ask why do you think it did?
regal olive
can i ask why do you think it did?
People falling out of love with Av and td games in general. And players not being happy with the direction the games going
celest crest
can i ask why do you think it did?
the player count from even after they got rid of the bots was still higher than it is now. By definition it had a downfall.
Its not a dead game, but it definitely had a downfall
gusty crypt
basiclly this UPD was just a copy of the dandadan one just in winter theme with different units
regal olive
basiclly this UPD was just a copy of the dandadan one just in winter theme with ...
Huh????
celest crest
basiclly this UPD was just a copy of the dandadan one just in winter theme with ...
????
latent kindle
basiclly this UPD was just a copy of the dandadan one just in winter theme with ...
wha
celest crest
yo what are you talking about 😭
latent kindle
you lost me with that one gang
celest crest
just because it has an event banner and a new currency doesn't mean its a copy of an update before it 😭
gusty crypt
you lost me with that one gang
bro but 😭 like the chances are the same the only thing that changed is that now we didnt got raids to do instead portals
celest crest
bro but 😭 like the chances are the same the only thing that changed is that no...
Yea. and the portals are completely different from raids
regal olive
bro but 😭 like the chances are the same the only thing that changed is that no...
The chances are technically higher
celest crest
and thats like 90% of what the update is
latent kindle
The chances are technically higher
no it isnt bruh
celest crest
The chances are technically higher
(thank god)
latent kindle
you gain the currency faster
gusty crypt
and thats like 90% of what the update is
yea but like portals are so lazy
celest crest
yea but like portals are so lazy
Isn't it what everyone wanted 😭
gusty crypt
The chances are technically higher
yes by 000.1%
celest crest
Literally EVERYONE was crying for it 😭
latent kindle
its still the same chance of rolling him
regal olive
you gain the currency faster
Well it’s easier to obtain not that the chances got higher
latent kindle
yes by 000.1%
hes still the same as diavolo
celest crest
its still the same chance of rolling him
wait wasn't diavolo .004% and gogeta is 0.005%
digital elbow
17k is not good
Crazy take. That’s more players than some steam games
celest crest
or am i tripping
digital elbow
basiclly this UPD was just a copy of the dandadan one just in winter theme with ...
Also a shit take
regal olive
Literally EVERYONE was crying for it 😭
Yeah, but I don’t hate portals
gusty crypt
hes still the same as diavolo
as i know divalo has also been buffed by 0.001%
celest crest
Yeah, but I don’t hate portals
i dont either
gusty crypt
Crazy take. That’s more players than some steam games
AV glazer
digital elbow
Literally EVERYONE was crying for it 😭
Ong I remember ppl wanting portals
latent kindle
wait wasn't diavolo .004% and gogeta is 0.005%
no
digital elbow
AV glazer
Not even glazing Av. Most Roblox games have more CCU than the average triple A game. This is not a feat that only Av has so idk why u call me a glazer when u have bad takes
celest crest
Not even glazing Av. Most Roblox games have more CCU than the average triple A g...
Straight up wrong takes* not even bad takes 😭
gusty crypt
Not even glazing Av. Most Roblox games have more CCU than the average triple A g...
lol
"17k more than 3 A games"
regal olive
High player count does not equate to a good game
gusty crypt
High player count does not equate to a good game
yea thats true
gusty crypt
High player count does not equate to a good game
but AV is still not a good game
gusty crypt
but AV is still not a good game
it was but now man
regal olive
but AV is still not a good game
99% of Roblox games aren’t
gusty crypt
its so sad to see it became this
regal olive
The only “good game” on Roblox is deepwoken and mabye some other hidden gems
The rest is slop
latent kindle
no
gusty crypt
The only “good game” on Roblox is deepwoken and mabye some other hidden gems
Fisch?
regal olive
No
latent kindle
blox fruits and deep are ass rn
regal olive
Blox fruit is the king of slop
latent kindle
crazy take
its literally ass
and i have the rights to say so because ive played the game since update 1
regal olive
blox fruits and deep are ass rn
Haven’t played deep in a while
gusty crypt
its literally ass
what do you think about Fisch?
latent kindle
deep is in the trenches too
latent kindle
fisch became ass after meg update
gusty crypt
fisch became ass after meg update
NAH
latent kindle
half their update time is spent making skins
gusty crypt
half their update time is spent making skins
but like what do you expect from a weekly Upd
latent kindle
only people with no lives want weekly updates
gusty crypt
but like what do you expect from a weekly Upd
and also 7 new fish every single week +2 skins and sometimes event isnt bad
latent kindle
and i much rather actual content than some skins
regal olive
U can not unironically say fish and blox fruits are good games
gusty crypt
a fucking limited time item
and?
gusty crypt
400 robux is aint that much
or 1300
latent kindle
bro thinks the price is the problem
gusty crypt
bro thinks the price is the problem
I aggre that they could add more F2P skins but still its just skins
latent kindle
ion think you realize how greedy those devs are
never gon forget they dropped a christmas update and added a limited time ship
for robux??
gusty crypt
I aggre that they could add more F2P skins but still its just skins
And also Fisch unlike any other big roblox game is NOT P2W
latent kindle
that was just straight up better than other ships
fisch cant be p2w because their is no competitive things in fisch
gusty crypt
for robux??
fr a ship? you are mad becuse of a ship
latent kindle
who tf said i was mad
gusty crypt
fisch cant be p2w because their is no competitive things in fisch
Fisch crate ? or rods ? 2x luck?
latent kindle
im providing reasons as to why the game just becamse slop updates to reel in some cash
gusty crypt
Fisch crate ? or rods ? 2x luck?
If they whould be doing it for money they could add like exclusive crates for Limited Fisch
latent kindle
fisch is more pay 2 play because every sever is 8x luck ( why tf does this exist) with nukes
latent kindle
If they whould be doing it for money they could add like exclusive crates for Li...
no they wouldnt thats just the shittiest way to make money
gusty crypt
no they wouldnt thats just the shittiest way to make money
thats just not true
like look at PS99
latent kindle
idek wtf that shi is
gusty crypt
idek wtf that shi is
bro dosent know about a top roblox game 😭
latent kindle
ik
your not talking about a simulator game rn
and put top roblox game in the same sentence
gusty crypt
your not talking about a simulator game rn
im talking about pet simulator 99
regal olive
💀💀💀
gusty crypt
and put top roblox game in the same sentence
i put becuse it IS a top roblox game
gusty crypt
i put becuse it IS a top roblox game
Dont make me wrong its not a good game its really badd
gusty crypt
its flooded with alt accounts
its still on the top page of roblox
but like this is not the point
latent kindle
because its botted
gusty crypt
the point is that the game makes most of its money from lootboxes
latent kindle
they make money because bming exists
nobody was buying ts if they couldnt sell it on the black market after
regal olive
the point is that the game makes most of its money from lootboxes
Great way to exploit kids 🔥🔥🔥
gusty crypt
Great way to exploit kids 🔥🔥🔥
i know honestly fuck petr sim 99
regal olive
nobody was buying ts if they couldnt sell it on the black market after
From pet simulator?
latent kindle
From pet simulator?
most simulator games
exploiters/dupers buy it and then dupe it to flip for mad cash on the black market
alpine wagon
Would be Nice if there was Like a soft pity after 3m Wisps or Presents that Raises the odds of getting These 2
slim hamlet
This might seem crazy but these units are supposed to be rare
latent kindle
This might seem crazy but these units are supposed to be rare
delusional way of thinking
alpine wagon
I Play very much (since Release) and I dont think I will be able to get diavolo
slim hamlet
delusional way of thinking
Owners literally said they arent meta, mostly just a flex
They are certainly good units but you dont need them for anything
alpine wagon
Owners literally said they arent meta, mostly just a flex
Gogeta is op diavolo is mid
latent kindle
Owners literally said they arent meta, mostly just a flex
diavolo is def meta
latent kindle
Gogeta is op diavolo is mid
diavolo is literally meta
alpine wagon
But gogeta is broken af
alpine wagon
diavolo is literally meta
Nah hes Shit
slim hamlet
Gogeta is op diavolo is mid
Gogeta is 3x easier to get
primal hearth
1728 runs for an igris....
I got shiny igris in 28 runs
alpine wagon
Gogeta is 3x easier to get
Ik
latent kindle
Nah hes Shit
hes meta.
latent kindle
hes a support unit not a dps unit dawg
we just dont be reading passives in the big 25
alpine wagon
5 min ability cooldown dawg
latent kindle
5 min ability cooldown dawg
his abillity saves runs dawg
primal hearth
5 min ability cooldown dawg
Diavolo is one of the best supports n dps 💔
slim hamlet
his abillity saves runs dawg
Waste of a slot
alpine wagon
Bro its a wasted Slot just take Julias or Some Shit
slim hamlet
Diavolo is one of the best supports n dps 💔
Hes not even top 5 dps 😭
AND hes line air
alpine wagon
Hes not even top 5 dps 😭
Fr
alpine wagon
AND hes line air
YES
latent kindle
line is the third best aoe
primal hearth
AND hes line air
He still has good dps
alpine wagon
He still has good dps
Trash for how much he costs to Max
primal hearth
Hes not even top 5 dps 😭
Idk if he is cuz of the new units
primal hearth
Trash for how much he costs to Max
Your really only using him for his ability anyways
alpine wagon
line is the third best aoe
There are only 4 😭
alpine wagon
Your really only using him for his ability anyways
Still have to Upgrade him
latent kindle
theres like 12 diff circle sizes but ig u can only count it as 1
alpine wagon
theres like 12 diff circle sizes but ig u can only count it as 1
Line is still mid
primal hearth
theres like 12 diff circle sizes but ig u can only count it as 1
If we count every single circle aoe then line is like 6-8
alpine wagon
I dont really Care about him being trash it would just be Nice to have him
latent kindle
If we count every single circle aoe then line is like 6-8
hell naw
primal hearth
Diavolos specifically
latent kindle
idk why people thik something being rare needs to be THIS rare
like why am i deadass able to grind 100 hours of something and NOT obtain a unit
thats madness
alpine wagon
like why am i deadass able to grind 100 hours of something and NOT obtain a unit
Thats what im saying
primal hearth
Maybe 5 best aoe
alpine wagon
Thats what im saying
They should add shadow Pity
latent kindle
i litreally have 98 hours of just dandadan COMPLETED attempts
the sheer amount of failed i have is insane
primal hearth
Still have to Upgrade him
Not that expensive
Its worth it
His ability is really good
latent kindle
aint diavolo like 90k
primal hearth
aint diavolo like 90k
Like 85k I think
primal hearth
In the modes ur using him it's not that expensive
alpine wagon
hes such a good support
doesnt matter if hes good or not cuz we wont get him 😭
spiral yew
doesnt matter if hes good or not cuz we wont get him 😭
whos we?
primal hearth
like why am i deadass able to grind 100 hours of something and NOT obtain a unit
This is a gacha game
Whatd u expect
Lol
polar hemlock
None of us are getting bro
spiral yew
speak for yourself
latent kindle
This is a gacha game
other gacha games atleast have pity
slim hamlet
idk why people thik something being rare needs to be THIS rare
Its much more common then other td games secrets
primal hearth
other gacha games atleast have pity
This might not be the game for you
spiral yew
i am built on pure persistence and will-power
alpine wagon
other gacha games atleast have pity
we dont need pity but at least soft pity
latent kindle
Its much more common then other td games secrets
comparing bad and bad doesnt make the bad good
slim hamlet
comparing bad and bad doesnt make the bad good
one has 100k players gang
they gotta be doing something right
polar hemlock
Yeah idk cid on reborn had pity if you wanted to nolife that and he was even on the stage drop
spiral yew
one has 100k players gang
bro. do you realize that 90% is fucking BOTS?
Go to the front page right now
primal hearth
one has 100k players gang
Ts full of bots
alpine wagon
we dont need pity but at least soft pity
would be great if theyd raise the odds from 0.005% to like 0.01% after 2m spent wisps or something like that
alpine wagon
bro. do you realize that 90% is fucking BOTS?
ongg bro av has so much more quality
primal hearth
would be great if theyd raise the odds from 0.005% to like 0.01% after 2m spent ...
It'd still be incredibly hard to get
slim hamlet
bro. do you realize that 90% is fucking BOTS?
ive scrolled through servers for a solid 10 minutes with no bot looking server
primal hearth
It needs a PITY
alpine wagon
It'd still be incredibly hard to get
yh but way easier
primal hearth
yh but way easier
Nah not really
spiral yew
ongg bro av has so much more quality
maybe because theyre 19 updates in?
polar hemlock
they gotta be doing something right
No one has ever said anything valid for eyey being better other than it feeling different
spiral yew
what a nemotode take
polar hemlock
Which is valid
latent kindle
they gotta be doing something right
some of this games playerbase were players from that game so they flood back to that game then you have some newer players going to that game and then you have the insane amount of people macrowing
alpine wagon
maybe because theyre 19 updates in?
nah the models are just straight up ass
primal hearth
they gotta be doing something right
They didnt reset old players data
spiral yew
nah the models are just straight up ass
oh myb i thought you were talking about -aa LOL yeah i agree, -aa is dogshit
primal hearth
If they had no actual people would be playing
Only bots
Even now its mostly bots
alpine wagon
oh myb i thought you were talking about -aa LOL yeah i agree, -aa is dogshit
what 😭
slim hamlet
Av has to add something to grind for or it wont get players
alpine wagon
im saying av > -aa
slim hamlet
gogeta being 3x easier to get is already a godsend
alpine wagon
dw about it. i agree with what youre saying basiccally
aight
latent kindle
gogeta being 3x easier to get is already a godsend
their rates are still dog shit 😭
polar hemlock
gogeta being 3x easier to get is already a godsend
Ye gogeta grind is fine esp after they gutted portal scaling but still no pity even for reaching 1/20k is vile
spiral yew
but i want diavolo
get to farming
alpine wagon
get to farming
i am rn 😔😔
polar hemlock
I don't wanna grind 3mil presents let alone not get him when I get there
alpine wagon
Ur not getting him
ik bro
polar hemlock
A man can dream
latent kindle
its more like faster than easier
primal hearth
Ts can't even be fun
polar hemlock
1 dandadan inf and I'm completely done for the day bro
alpine wagon
bro ive grinded 2 or 3 weeks straight until a friend of mine got 2 in like 2 days and then i gave up until now
polar hemlock
Diavolo mid anw bro you don't need him
spiral yew
bro ive grinded 2 or 3 weeks straight until a friend of mine got 2 in like 2 day...
my friend just got him and rolled monarch right after
primal hearth
dandadan dungeon was fucking abysmal bro
Wym
alpine wagon
my friend just got him and rolled monarch right after
same
polar hemlock
Grind for the goat ragna
primal hearth
my friend just got him and rolled monarch right after
Wtf 💀
alpine wagon
Grind for the goat ragna
hes easy to get and not limited also
slim hamlet
Diavolo aint worth it, better off grinding gogeta
primal hearth
Diavolo mid anw bro you don't need him
He's really good 💔
alpine wagon
Diavolo aint worth it, better off grinding gogeta
but it hurts in my heart to not have a limited unit
polar hemlock
He's really good 💔
Not good enough for me to do dandadan inf
distant pond
He's really good 💔
87k damage with monarch isn't good
primal hearth
87k damage with monarch isn't good
Bro 💔
slim hamlet
Hes kinds garbage vto
polar hemlock
87k damage with monarch isn't good
This post has been fact checked by true saber fanatics
TRUE ✅
slim hamlet
Hes prolly out of top 15 cuz of the new units
alpine wagon
Hes kinds garbage vto
still nice to have a vanguard
primal hearth
Not good enough for me to do dandadan inf
True
Only cuz he's really hard to get tho
distant pond
his domain looks kind of good, so he's worth getting imo
polar hemlock
I will actually try for gogeta tho he is cool
primal hearth
I will actually try for gogeta tho he is cool
Ur not getting Gogeta
polar hemlock
I feel like they got a new modeler for this update alot of them are mega off
I think only ragna survived
primal hearth
Ur not getting Gogeta
He's also not a must have
latent kindle
whoever made the fate models
alpine wagon
He's also not a must have
hes so broken with monarch
polar hemlock
Ur not getting Gogeta
I can try without wanting to off myself
latent kindle
needs to make the gogeta model
actually gogeta aint even bad i think its his hair and face
distant pond
the Gogeta model isn't even that bad ngl
latent kindle
something about it looks off
polar hemlock
needs to make the gogeta model
The gilga shiny got GUTTED otherwise it's fine
alpine wagon
no but he has like 80k dps
primal hearth
the Gogeta model isn't even that bad ngl
It is
distant pond
So are most units???
he does the most damage in the game though
alpine wagon
So are most units???
no but he has like 80k dps
polar hemlock
the Gogeta model isn't even that bad ngl
It's rly bad bro
latent kindle
So are most units???
doesnt he do like 300k with monarch and his passives makes that double
polar hemlock
They dropped 2 extreme ends of the trait spectrum
You got ragna and you got gogeta
Mr solar and Mr monarch
alpine wagon
So are most units???
highest dps rn if you have monarch
distant pond
Mr solar and Mr monarch
what about ethereal
primal hearth
One of the best units but not a must have
polar hemlock
Gogeta is like the best unit with monarchs by like 2 gaps
alpine wagon
All I said most units with monarch are good why yall replying
but gogeta is like 2x as good as the 2nd best monarch rn
primal hearth
but gogeta is like 2x as good as the 2nd best monarch rn
?
polar hemlock
What's even his DPS on ethereal
distant pond
but gogeta is like 2x as good as the 2nd best monarch rn
who's the best monarch?
alpine wagon
who's the best monarch?
gogeta
polar hemlock
what about ethereal
On who
latent kindle
i needa think of a way for them to make vanguard units not a insufferable grind without them just declining and not discussing anything
primal hearth
i needa think of a way for them to make vanguard units not a insufferable grind...
Thats not happening
distant pond
It's good I like the range more tho his range Is balls
I don't have him yet, so I guess that makes sense
polar hemlock
Devs are set in stone for vanguards to be a dogshit grind
Which sucks cuz gogeta is literally this update's icon
People be hopping on and seeing he is 1/20k
Noone doing that
alpine wagon
Noone doing that
i am
distant pond
When are they going to add sub traits
polar hemlock
U grind diavolo bro ud scrape bathrooms with a toothbrush
alpine wagon
U grind diavolo bro ud scrape bathrooms with a toothbrush
ik
primal hearth
Devs are set in stone for vanguards to be a dogshit grind
It wouldnt be an issue if vanguard units werent that good
alpine wagon
It wouldnt be an issue if vanguard units werent that good
yes
primal hearth
They made them so rare to make them valuable
latent kindle
It wouldnt be an issue if vanguard units werent that good
then why bother adding them?
distant pond
Diavalo is significantly easier to get than gogeta
primal hearth
No need for them to be good
polar hemlock
It wouldnt be an issue if vanguard units werent that good
I think they should be good but the grind shouldn't atleast be completely luck based there needs to be a pity
primal hearth
then why bother adding them?
Read the message above yours
primal hearth
I think they should be good but the grind shouldn't atleast be completely luck b...
Nah
Theyre exclusive as well
latent kindle
Read the message above yours
they only become valuable to collectors atp
distant pond
if you m-a-croed the event as soon as it came out you could've gotten him 5-10 times'
primal hearth
Gogeta and Diavolo should be secrets
polar hemlock
Theyre exclusive as well
We stan alucard
primal hearth
they only become valuable to collectors atp
Yeah that's the idea
distant pond
Gogeta and Diavolo should be secrets
saber*
primal hearth
And for when trading comes out
distant pond
I still don't know why saber isn't a secret
alpine wagon
Vanguards are the only units with value
battle pass
primal hearth
battle pass
Kinda
polar hemlock
I'm gonna need to get haruka when trading comes out
alpine wagon
I'm gonna need to get haruka when trading comes out
impossible
latent kindle
vanguard units can be easy to obtain and still have high value
polar hemlock
Shiny gilga will go for LOADS in the trading market (1bp)
latent kindle
lemme rephrase
cause that sounds bad
vanguard units can be EASIER than rn to obtain and still have crazy high value
primal hearth
vanguard units can be EASIER than rn to obtain and still have crazy high value
Ur right
I agree
These rates are awful
And the grind is so tedious
latent kindle
i dont mind the grind
polar hemlock
Diavolo is a lost cause the inf sucks
primal hearth
Idk do yalls mind the current portal grind I think it's p smooth
Just as boring as any other raid rn
latent kindle
i dont mind the dandadan inf either
alpine wagon
off topic but they should have add a new map for portals
polar hemlock
Just as boring as any other raid rn
Ig
latent kindle
portals gets borin because for some reason half of the games maps are missing
polar hemlock
We vanguard the animes bro not anything else
latent kindle
more than half actually
polar hemlock
The balancing on them is ass why would you not pick shibuya and namek all the time
So you js play on 2 maps
latent kindle
The balancing on them is ass why would you not pick shibuya and namek all the ti...
check my suggestion
i said they should buff the harder maps and modifiers to make u actually pick them
cause like deadass why am i ever doing a spider raid portal
polar hemlock
Atleast they're easy now tho I thought the maps were supposed to be that hard when the hp scaling bug was a thing
latent kindle
more pain no extra gain
polar hemlock
I can duo with my friend now it's chill
polar hemlock
cause like deadass why am i ever doing a spider raid portal
No reason basically
Off topic but lowk they should add ascension to exclusives on these banners
You roll so much on the banners and the exclusives do nothing
After you get 1 copy of them
polar hemlock
They need another function
primal hearth
You roll so much on the banners and the exclusives do nothing
Uh trading
Althought they're probably gonna be worthless
distant pond
I do
primal hearth
Who the fuck wants them they will be worth pennies
Idk as the devs
All the exclusives won't be worth anything
distant pond
I didn't get rengoku
primal hearth
They've all been in the game for months
polar hemlock
I got like 5 fubukis sitting doing nothing and I'm like 3 days into the grind this will go on for like 2 months
It's mad pointless
polar hemlock
They've all been in the game for months
Even the shinies will be dogshit
Imma js keep my shiny pweeny for the cosmetic bro will be mad underpriced anw
polar hemlock
Idk are they
primal hearth
Probably
polar hemlock
I got shiny fubuki like super early
primal hearth
It might be worth something
distant pond
Trading won't be added for like another year so they'll probably have a bit of value
polar hemlock
Mayb
latent kindle
I didn't get rengoku
rengoku is never going to be valuable
cosmetic is ass
going to be dog shit when traded is added
and he was in game for so long theres people an entire inventory of just rengoku
distant pond
yeah probably
primal hearth
going to be dog shit when traded is added
Thats probably gonna be the same for most exclusives rn
distant pond
I just never bothered to do the raid
primal hearth
I just never bothered to do the raid
Yeah its boring asf
distant pond
Gilgamesh might have some value
primal hearth
Gilgamesh might have some value
No
latent kindle
Thats probably gonna be the same for most exclusives rn
idk what their plan is tbh
primal hearth
He sucks
latent kindle
most exclusives are litearlly getting overshadowed so their trade value just hits the gutters
primal hearth
idk what their plan is tbh
Whatever it is it's not good
distant pond
but he probably won't be good whenver trading is added
distant pond
how, didn't he get buffed?
primal hearth
In like 2 updates he won't be usable
latent kindle
like deadass why am i going to trade for a zion when trading dros
primal hearth
how, didn't he get buffed?
Really?
distant pond
he has 7k dps in the portal, with ethereal
primal hearth
he has 7k dps in the portal, with ethereal
Yeah he only has good dps
distant pond
Yeah he only has good dps
ability is good too ngl
primal hearth
It wont be good in like 3 updates at most
distant pond
but he's pretty much a worse version of gogeta
distant pond
Gligamesh is bad unless you have monarch - if you have monarch he's probably S tier
primal hearth
Gligamesh is bad unless you have monarch - if you have monarch he's probably S t...
He still sucks even with monarch
And you need monarch in lb runs anyways
primal hearth
but he's pretty much a worse version of gogeta
He's a worse version of any unit with better dps
He's just that bad
I genuinely cant understand how some people think he's good
distant pond
there's only like 3 units that are that good though
distant pond
I genuinely cant understand how some people think he's good
they have monarch on him
primal hearth
they have monarch on him
Not all do
latent kindle
i copped gilgamesh got all z+ on him and left him in my inventory to rot
distant pond
i copped gilgamesh got all z+ on him and left him in my inventory to rot
same
dusky magnet
Ik, i even use sukuna more
primal hearth
they have monarch on him
Nah
latent kindle
remember when they tried saying sukuna was finna stay in meta 💔
primal hearth
Theres some people that just dont even play the game and rank units
Like look at this
latent kindle
Like look at this
this has to be the worst list ive ever seen
why is valentine on there
polar hemlock
He still sucks even with monarch
Saying he sucks rn is crazy tho
primal hearth
why is valentine on there
No idea
dusky magnet
Valentine was bornt dead
primal hearth
Saying he sucks rn is crazy tho
I mean he's useless
primal hearth
If a unit is useless it sucks
polar hemlock
I mean he's useless
I got units on better traits rn but as a baseline he is one of the best progressive units
Esp for solo runs
primal hearth
If we ignore the fact ur never using him then yeah he's decent
polar hemlock
Cuz you can always keep that buff maxxed
primal hearth
I got units on better traits rn but as a baseline he is one of the best progress...
Not one of the best
polar hemlock
I don't do inf shit for leaderboard runs so I can't tell but he has good aoe
distant pond
he's probably the best unit to use in the portal
primal hearth
Or depends on wym by that
polar hemlock
Or depends on wym by that
Raids worldlines story legend etc
primal hearth
Raids worldlines story legend etc
I meant wym by one of the best
polar hemlock
I used him alot till monarch saber than ragna
primal hearth
Top 1-3, 1-5, 1-10 idk
polar hemlock
Top 5 id say
primal hearth
Top 5 id say
Well then he's useless
polar hemlock
Why
primal hearth
Theres 4 units that do what he does way better
Ur not using him
That literally means hes useless 💔
distant pond
.
polar hemlock
Theres 4 units that do what he does way better
Nah not way better
primal hearth
Nah not way better
Doesnt really matter
polar hemlock
I don't think anyone without better traits do what he does way better
polar hemlock
I think only cu was significantly better but he is cost effective so you can js use both
primal hearth
I don't think anyone without better traits do what he does way better
Nah what 😭
polar hemlock
Idk dawg who you think is better
primal hearth
I think only cu was significantly better but he is cost effective so you can js ...
How much to max
primal hearth
How much to max though
polar hemlock
Max like uh
68k
I think
Like tbh
Progressive shit got crept this update cuz rem and ragna
But gilga is still good
primal hearth
But gilga is still good
Yeah hes decent
polar hemlock
If I didn't own monarch saber he'd be the dude I'd be using
primal hearth
But hes still useless
polar hemlock
Idk who do you think
Is better for progressive than him
Excluding the update 3 guys
primal hearth
Is better for progressive than him
Alucard, Lancer, Gojo, Choso
maybe a few more
Depends on what mode
polar hemlock
Alucard and lancer is valid gojo and choso eats shit compared to gilga imo
primal hearth
Alucard and lancer is valid gojo and choso eats shit compared to gilga imo
Absolutely outrageous take
polar hemlock
They are so much fucking worse to use
primal hearth
Bro 💔
primal hearth
They are so much fucking worse to use
Bro 💔
polar hemlock
Full aoe is like way less relevant
primal hearth
Full aoe is like way less relevant
Bro 💔
polar hemlock
Choso is bleed so you do bring him on regen but standalone generalist he is fucking buns
Also cu can stop bleed too while not having dogshit DPS
Takes a bit of cash tho it depends
dusky magnet
Gojo and choso rely too much on their aoe which they get at last upgrade, definetely not good for progression fast and short gm
primal hearth
Full aoe is like way less relevant
Gojo has a 10s ts every 60s, good range and is immune to status ailments, all of that for just 80k.
Choso has 100% uptime bleed, full aoe and good passives, 70k to max. His main issue is rng, I wasnt so sure about Choso cuz of Alucard and the fact that he has like 30 rng
primal hearth
Gojo and choso rely too much on their aoe which they get at last upgrade, define...
Choso mainly
Gojo's just 80k to get full aoe and 60k~ for his ts
With good dps
polar hemlock
Gojo has a 10s ts every 60s, good range and is immune to status ailments, all of...
Alucard has amp and more damage I do think he can be better but choso DPS is too garbage
The passives don't save it
primal hearth
Alucard has amp and more damage I do think he can be better but choso DPS is too...
Choso's dps isnt too garbage
polar hemlock
Gojo ts is good but gilga has better range and is also immune to status
polar hemlock
Gilga range is like 60 at base after the passive is maxed
He is also immune to all cc
Cone aoe is more than enough if you js position it right
And enuma is a decent nuke
Also even without the 30% damage gilga does way more dmg
If you have the 30% it's wraps
I think cu is significantly better cuz he is so cheap and does so much damage for the cost
onyx pier
.
polar hemlock
They did but no pity so it's still pure gambling
open leaf
i saw a level 20 with gogeta 😭
onyx pier
If a pity was added, that would defeat the purpose of its rarity
polar hemlock
i saw a level 20 with gogeta 😭
Yoo hello
onyx pier
This post was declined so there isn't much need to speak more on this
polar hemlock
If a pity was added, that would defeat the purpose of its rarity
What the fuck is the purpose bro
Play the game for 6 hrs a day?
onyx pier
Trading in the future
polar hemlock
Insane purpose
primal hearth
If a pity was added, that would defeat the purpose of its rarity
It wouldnt?
onyx pier
It wouldnt?
The whole purpose of the unit is to be rare
primal hearth
Itd still be really hard to get
onyx pier
they've already explained that
Adding a pity is like adding a pity to traits
its dumb and pointless
primal hearth
What's with these gambling addicts 💔
onyx pier
You'll oversature the unit to the point no one will care
Not gambling addict, its common sense.
primal hearth
You'll oversature the unit to the point no one will care
Uh no?
You still need to grind weeks for the unit
polar hemlock
Anime tower defense players when people don't want to be chasing a goose for a month straight with no confirmation of any rewards
digital elbow
The middle ground is a soft pity
onyx pier
I don't understand why players want to be handed everything thats rare. Like can you guys not just enjoy the grind
primal hearth
its dumb and pointless
Adding pity to traits is not dumb or pointless
Traits shouldnt even be a thing so I wont argue about that
onyx pier
You remove rarity and a basic power system
misty phoenix
i thought some people said traits have pity at 2.5k
onyx pier
Guess what
latent kindle
and it shows
???
digital elbow
I don't understand why players want to be handed everything thats rare. Like can...
I love that people assume we want all rewards within one run whenever conversations like this happen
primal hearth
i thought some people said traits have pity at 2.5k
Idk if its true
onyx pier
Tourney drops and now because there is a pity system for traits GG
latent kindle
that screenshot proves nothing
primal hearth
I don't understand why players want to be handed everything thats rare. Like can...
Wym lmao
distant pond
there should be a monarch pity at 2500 rerolls
latent kindle
i saw the same thing when diavolo was available
primal hearth
Your still grinding weeks or even months
But this time you are guaranteed to get the unit at a certain point
latent kindle
I don't understand why players want to be handed everything thats rare. Like can...
something can be rare without having stupidly low drop rates lmao
primal hearth
Which gives you a reason to grind
Imagine grinding months for one unit and not even getting it lmao
misty phoenix
for every 150k spent after 3m, increase chance by 1% up to 10% reset upon pulling vanguard unit
dusky magnet
Exactly,and most people wouldnt still do it because well, most of the playerbase is casual
primal hearth
for every 150k spent after 3m, increase chance by 1% up to 10% reset upon pullin...
1%???
primal hearth
Exactly,and most people wouldnt still do it because well, most of the playerbase...
True
misty phoenix
idk
primal hearth
It still keeps its value
Like not many people are grinding so many portals
Its so tedious
latent kindle
It still keeps its value
people want the value to be every previous exclusive value and some trait rerolls
onyx pier
So the point yall are making correct me if i am wrong
primal hearth
people want the value to be every previous exclusive value and some trait reroll...
Wdym
digital elbow
Exactly,and most people wouldnt still do it because well, most of the playerbase...
^^^ this
Ppl think that if u add pity then rate stuff will become “too common.” But they forget that only dedicated players grind for rare stuff in the first place
onyx pier
Is because you grind for a rare unit, you deserve to have some pity for spending days, weeks, months grinding it?
latent kindle
Wdym
i mean they want to keep it the same rarity because if you lower it it loses its crazy value it would have in the future
primal hearth
Is because you **grind** for a rare unit, you deserve to have some pity for spen...
Correct
If you think thats a terrible idea I genuinely dont know what to tell you
knotty spade
i think the best option is to add a pity and a weekend boost
primal hearth
i mean they want to keep it the same rarity because if you lower it it loses its...
I still dont understand wym
latent kindle
I still dont understand wym
eh nvm dont feel like explaining
polar hemlock
Based
primal hearth
I understand it now
polar hemlock
Is because you **grind** for a rare unit, you deserve to have some pity for spen...
Yes
latent kindle
they want it to be marine cape value not candy cane in gpo terms
primal hearth
Nevermind
primal hearth
So you want to defeat the entire purpose of the unit.
Incorrect
Theyre still extremely hard to get
latent kindle
There isn't luck, if you add pity.
how is soft pity still not luck
polar hemlock
So you want to defeat the entire purpose of the unit.
Idk why you're riding them so hard over this when making the units meta defeats the purpose of them js being bragging rights
primal hearth
Idk why you're riding them so hard over this when making the units meta defeats ...
Yeah this too
latent kindle
and the units arent just bragging rights their actually good
latent kindle
you cant make them good units and them proceed to make them insanely rare and just call them a unit to brag about having
onyx pier
how is soft pity still not luck
Sorry let me rephrase and correct myself. You higher the odds. The purpose of it is to be hard to obtain, adding some system to make it easier.
misty phoenix
meta on inf lb runs btw WHICH most lucky casual players probably wont even touch
primal hearth
You have to grind for weeks or even months and theres not even a guaranteed that youll get them
primal hearth
Sorry let me rephrase and correct myself. You **higher** the odds. The purpose o...
They're still hard to obtain
latent kindle
Sorry let me rephrase and correct myself. You **higher** the odds. The purpose o...
soft pity stll makes it hard to obtain it just not as hard rephrasing didnt change anything
still*
onyx pier
Idk why you're riding them so hard over this when making the units meta defeats ...
I am not trying too but holy shit its like alucard all over again. Its a luck of the draw, I still don't get why players think they need to be handed everything
or given some benfit because they play the game
latent kindle
I am not trying too but holy shit its like alucard all over again. Its a luck of...
because alucard isnt limited?
primal hearth
I am not trying too but holy shit its like alucard all over again. Its a luck of...
Youre not being handed everything
knotty spade
alucard isnt a limited time unit
latent kindle
alucard doesnt require you to play 1 game mode?
latent kindle
like wdym bro
onyx pier
alucard isnt a limited time unit
Not the point i am trying to make, its about adding some sort of way to get them easier.
latent kindle
alucard is easily macrowable too you dont even need a half decent team to grind gems
knotty spade
and the whole point of a soft pity is for players who hit the average and dont get him its just a slight boost to the odds after spending so much time grinding a tedious event
latent kindle
you can gem farm with just a blitz vegeta
primal hearth
alucard is easily macrowable too you dont even need a half decent team to grin...
It takes weeks
Too long
Its tedious
And theres no guarantee of you getting him
latent kindle
It takes weeks
im not sayin why his grind is good
im saying why its not good to compare him to vanguard units
onyx pier
This conversation oddly reminds me of the Ready Player One event lmao
primal hearth
or given some benfit because they play the game
💀
onyx pier
If yall played that, holy legend
knotty spade
if you play the game casually you will still get alucard simply because he is not a limited unit and the currency to get him isnt in only one gamemode for the sole purpose of getting
onyx pier
yea
primal hearth
if you play the game casually you will still get alucard simply because he is no...
You probably wont
latent kindle
yeah i played it
open leaf
if you play the game casually you will still get alucard simply because he is no...
lvl 95 still no alucard 🙏
polar hemlock
or given some benfit because they play the game
If the pity on the units be high then it isn't handouts it's just reassurance that you will get the drop if you're dedicated enough
primal hearth
The average gems to get alucard is like 1 mil
polar hemlock
You do deserve the rare unit if you're grinding hours everyday
onyx pier
yeah i played it
This conversation is similar. People wanting some sort of, "hint" system for some of the puzzles
cause they spent days trying to figure out one hint
primal hearth
If the pity on the units be high then it isn't handouts it's just reassurance th...
These gambling addicts assume that by pity we mean getting the unit in 10 spins
Don't understand how they get to such a conclusion
primal hearth
This conversation is similar. People wanting some sort of, "hint" system for som...
It's not at all similar
Read what ur saying 💀
onyx pier
It is very
latent kindle
its barely similar
there is a gurantee that you figure out the puzzle if you do the correct steps
onyx pier
People fighting over a hint system for a Dominus thats limited time and hard to obtain
People fighting over a pity system for a Unit thats a limited time and hard to obtain
onyx pier
there is a gurantee that you figure out the puzzle if you do the correct steps
There isn't a gurantee you find the next puzzle piece
You had to search around in parts
latent kindle
doing the steps to find the puzzle piece meant you for sure got it no ? finishing the entire puzzle gave you the dominus for sure no?
one isnt a mindless grind where if you finish all your hard work theres a chance you dont get what you worked for
primal hearth
People fighting over a hint system for a Dominus thats limited time and hard to ...
Taking days to figure out how to solve the puzzles is literally what theyre made for.
Hard, challenging puzzles to solve, but after one gets it its pretty easy
Everyone has a fair chance at getting the item
onyx pier
Taking days to figure out how to solve the puzzles is literally what theyre made...
I wouldn't say looking a lightbulb and knowing its morse code is pretty easy
😭
latent kindle
I wouldn't say looking a lightbulb and knowing its morse code is pretty easy
im not saying it wasnt hard
onyx pier
Gotta stop you there cause holy shit
onyx pier
im not saying it wasnt hard
not you
knotty spade
they said after someone gets it
primal hearth
I wouldn't say looking a lightbulb and knowing its morse code is pretty easy
"after one gets it its pretty easy" after the puzzles are solved everyone has a fair chance of getting the item, it's still somewhat difficult obviously but now everyone knows how to do it
onyx pier
"after one gets it its pretty easy" after the puzzles are solved everyone has a ...
Thats if someone decides to tell them how they did it
Hence how Rocu won
he didn't give away his answers
(also he got lucky since the roblox dev bugged one of the quests)
primal hearth
(also he got lucky since the roblox dev bugged one of the quests)
Oh well
primal hearth
Right
onyx pier
They've spoken
Also thanks for speaking was fun
i see both sides
not hating anyone just wanted to speak my side
latent kindle
they need to communicate better they deadass just be disappearing after they say 1 thing instead of talking about it
primal hearth
The one that made the suggestion said hes gonna keep it up for people to argue in here
latent kindle
Also thanks for speaking was fun
yessir
onyx pier
The one that made the suggestion said hes gonna keep it up for people to argue i...
Valid
Anyways...throwing a self promo in here so if yall wanna take a look and either love or hate...
#1331744328376385566
knotty spade
i was just looking at that lol
i think its a good idea helps more people out who cant macaroni and or casual players
digital elbow
I am not trying too but holy shit its like alucard all over again. Its a luck of...
“Why players think they needed to be handed everything”
That’s not what we’re saying. You can add soft pity and have the increased chance from that STILL be lower than a secret 💀 that’s what soft pity is- it isnt a handout, it just rewards your effort and keeps you going.
digital elbow
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Now that’s a good suggestion
latent kindle
yeah it deletes my message
primal hearth
What the fuck
latent kindle
like huh
onyx pier
how in the world
Wait i have no clue
maybe its my role permissions
they didnt update it?
latent kindle
😭
fallow scaffold
celest crest
Honestly i would be completely fine having very rare units like vanguards as long as they aren't super popular characters. Like locking characters everyone loves to a rarity which no one is going to get just sucks
(For example, diavolo. Im a massive jjba fan and wanted him as soon as I saw the sneak, but I just cant get him since i dont have the time nor patience to grind half my life away)
knotty spade
b
latent kindle
(For example, diavolo. Im a massive jjba fan and wanted him as soon as I saw the...
its not even a "grind" after a while u just resort to mangoing
and even then its still barely obtainable
spiral yew
mangoing is still grinding believe it or not
latent kindle
mangoing is still grinding believe it or not
i dont consider you grinding for something unless your doing it tbh
but thats opinion based ofc
spiral yew
yeah i can def see your logic
celest crest
its not even a "grind" after a while u just resort to mangoing
you cant without using special stuff that automatically does it 😭
i just use tiny task
latent kindle
you cant without using special stuff that automatically does it 😭
ahk is still a macrow
tiny task is just a recorded one not a scripted one
celest crest
ahk is still a macrow
ye ik but you haven't been able to just record with tiny task for the events with vanguards
latent kindle
ye ik but you haven't been able to just record with tiny task for the events wit...
you couldve with dandadan
you just wouldnt beat it
knotty spade
😈
undone rain
you just wouldnt beat it
Or get anywhere near decent rates
young wyvern
You also have to take in consideration that people dont have time to do it. Alth...
so they should make a rare unit not rare? you cant get everything in life. Like every game i join there is always a fool crying about stuff that shouldnt be that easy to pull on purpose. if they would change how vanguard units would be obtained than i would want that they give everyone doing inf lb the lb unit
spiral yew
so they should make a rare unit not rare? you cant get everything in life. Like ...
i didn’t say that
drifting otter
so they should make a rare unit not rare? you cant get everything in life. Like ...
No one said that 😭
Get this default pfp back to general
We want the “secret” units to be actual secrets, like gilgamesh
Not some “pull here for a 0.00001% chance of getting a meta relevant unit that you are may as well be screwed if you dont have them”
sudden lintel
Not some “pull here for a 0.00001% chance of getting a meta relevant unit that y...
I mean I get ur point
But if the unit is trash no one will grind for it
drifting otter
But if the unit is trash no one will grind for it
Like i said js make it like gilgamesh
sudden lintel
The solution I see is add different ways to get them as u said
drifting otter
He is def good
potent trellis
drop a code that gives you 22 shiny gogeta
worthy plover
tacit sparrow
got him by mistake
still mid af without monarch tho
no point wasting time to get him as f2p
potent trellis
but the flex tho
jaunty remnant
Not some “pull here for a 0.00001% chance of getting a meta relevant unit that y...
easy fix don't make them meta
just make them a collectible and tradable
they said vanguards weren't supposed to be meta but yet they are
sparking a grind and making ppl ask for easy ways to get purposefully hard to obtain units
celest crest
still mid af without monarch tho
doesn't he do like 50k without monarch....
and then his clone makes him do double the dmg...
tacit sparrow
ye but 200k or smthing to max him
drifting otter
easy fix don't make them meta
Yup this is the way to go
I want them to be like some limited super rare pokemon cards
That have no practical purposes but to look cool
jaunty remnant
I want them to be like some limited super rare pokemon cards
that's the point of vanguard units 😭 they're supposed to be more collectibles and flex-ey not meta units you MUST have
drifting otter
that's the point of vanguard units 😭 they're supposed to be more collectibles a...
Then the devs made them meta relevant and irreplacable 😭💔
jaunty remnant
Then the devs made them meta relevant and irreplacable 😭💔
for some odd reason
young wyvern
Not some “pull here for a 0.00001% chance of getting a meta relevant unit that y...
That gotta be rage bait? You are not supposed to pull every unit easily
This "suggestion" is as garbage as the other i read today. Just crybabys 😭
drifting otter
That gotta be rage bait? You are not supposed to pull every unit easily
2/10 ragebait go back to general default pfp
bro typin up a storm
young wyvern
Kids are truly crybabys. Sending strenght to your parents dealing with this 👍
drifting otter
Kids are truly crybabys. Sending strenght to your parents dealing with this 👍
all that for 2 sentences 😭
young wyvern
?
distant pond
tbh, I didn't mind gogeta being locked behind an insane drop rate
drifting otter
Seeing you that triggered truly made my day
keep coping man idc
young wyvern
But keep in mind you cant have everything in life👍
sick smelt
Ngl the whole point of vanguard units being added in the game was for them to be hard to get 😭 but they should add alternatives to those units like Divalo ability is absurd with no alternative to him.
drifting otter
But keep in mind you cant have everything in life👍
"oooh i have the moral high ground" ahh
young wyvern
keep coping man idc
You are the one still being triggered and commenting on my comment 🤭
drifting otter
these brainless copers are why im forever grateful for the block button
drifting otter
finally inner peace
young wyvern
Are truly not human
distant pond
Diavalo is probably my favorite unit in the game and he was unfortunately locked behind an obscene drop rate
drifting otter
keep yapping default pfp
distant pond
I might still grind for him ngl
young wyvern
Diavalo is probably my favorite unit in the game and he was unfortunately locked...
You could trade for him ngl. But later on
I am gonna Grind for items
distant pond
You could trade for him ngl. But later on
what, in like a year???
young wyvern
Evo items for later
drifting otter
I might still grind for him ngl
goodluck, you will need it
young wyvern
what, in like a year???
If we are lucky ye
drifting otter
also after diavolo get powercreep by another vanguard you gonn have to macaroni for like 3-4 weeks for them too
and the one after that
distant pond
the most expensive unit I have is mahito
drifting otter
and then the one after that too
distant pond
so, I definitely don't have enough to trade for him
young wyvern
the most expensive unit I have is mahito
There will be always new units comming dw
distant pond
also after diavolo get powercreep by another vanguard you gonn have to macaroni ...
I only want him because his domain looks amazing
young wyvern
And those can be even worth more than diavolo in some regard
distant pond
obviously, since diavalo is objectively mediocre
but people will probably still want him
drifting otter
I only want him because his domain looks amazing
good for you ig, i love kc too its one of my fav stands
young wyvern
But tbf this suggestion truly sucks horseshi
drifting otter
but i aint grinding for like 20 days straight for 1 unit
also why is the default pfp still yapping?
winged plaza
I think vanguards are more for collection and the occasional tournament or sum, I think gogeta’s actually meta tho
distant pond
but i aint grinding for like 20 days straight for 1 unit
he's literally just a dps unit, he isn't worth grinding for, in my opinion
young wyvern
I think vanguards are more for collection and the occasional tournament or sum, ...
Him and ragna
distant pond
I think vanguards are more for collection and the occasional tournament or sum, ...
yeah, unfortunately
drifting otter
I think vanguards are more for collection and the occasional tournament or sum, ...
he is meta because he doesnt need 2 units to fuse unlike most games
the devs js got lazy
winged plaza
Him and ragna
Everybody going crazy “OMG HE DOES 400k+” no he doesn’t portals just buff his dmg a lot
💀
distant pond
Everybody going crazy “OMG HE DOES 400k+” no he doesn’t portals just buff his dm...
Ragna is still extremely good outside of portals
winged plaza
He does like almost 200k with vigor 3 which is nothing to scoff at but eh
distant pond
he's also the best tournament unit in traitless
drifting otter
Ragna is still extremely good outside of portals
didnt he just got nerfed?
distant pond
didnt he just got nerfed?
it was apparently unintentional
drifting otter
it was apparently *unintentional*
maybe the gogeta sales were slippin
winged plaza
My heart goes out to all the mfs who got monarch on ragna
distant pond
knowing my luck, i would probably get monarch on him
I've gotten four ethereals so far
winged plaza
I’m just using marksman on him cuz I noticed his range wasn’t the best and I’m scared of getting monarch on him 😭
distant pond
they gained 10k active players this update so maybe not
drifting otter
they gained 10k active players this update so maybe not
this is so bad for 1 upd icl
like they were averaging 60k after updates before
distant pond
this is so bad for 1 upd icl
anythings better than 6200 players 😭
winged plaza
They took a step in the right direction with portals but idk if that’ll keep them afloat
drifting otter
now they just fallin off after ay ay rerelease
drifting otter
They took a step in the right direction with portals but idk if that’ll keep the...
they cut corners so much that they literally made a circle
like why isnt gogeta a fuse unit
why doesnt subaru have a rewind
winged plaza
I agree with u on that they dropped the ball making him another 0.005%
“Don’t worry guys we’re making vanguards easier to get”
drifting otter
why are half of the units of the upd mid ash
winged plaza
Only thing that’s easier is getting the currency 😭
distant pond
I agree with u on that they dropped the ball making him another 0.005%
gogeta is actually harder to get because you can't m-a-c-ro portals
drifting otter
Only thing that’s easier is getting the currency 😭
"we are giving you more money to gamble you must be grateful" ah devs
they gotta realize more gambling doesnt mean jack when the gameplay is dogs
misty phoenix
i love gambling more pulls the better
tidal stream
like they were averaging 60k after updates before
that was before аа rerelease
winged plaza
gogeta is actually harder to get because you can't m-a-c-ro portals
And they uh b-a-nned the dude tryna
drifting otter
And they uh b-a-nned the dude tryna
this is literally 1984 😭
distant pond
as long as you use tiny task it's impossible to get banned, or at least that's what I heard
drifting otter
why they censoring words now
distant pond
and developers are obviously not against tinytask since it isn't censored
winged plaza
why they censoring words now
Timed out twice cuz of no no words 💔
My favorite fruit is now censored
drifting otter
anyone defending this update or the devs gotta be special icl
like how can you even defend this
distant pond
anyone defending this update or the devs gotta be special icl
Ragna was a decent addition