Delete this shit from portals

[wide vine]

literally. They can't see it from a normal player lense

[sour orbit]

but this is just stupid i dont wanna learn a whole pokedex to just do portals

[arctic canyon]

this too

elemental reactions are far too complex for a simple mechanic like portals

[sour orbit]

for real

[arctic canyon]

could have easily been somewhere else like legend stages or raids or wtv

[sour orbit]

make them in certain challenges or smth

like that odessey thing in the lobby

not the portals

[arctic canyon]

yeah

[junior bison]

ts is so ass 🙏🏿 i agree remove it

[carmine needle]

they removed it

[jovial willow]

they need to reroll the portals with the things they remove

[stray elbow]

nah lowk i like to keep it as a collectible since its literally unob

then again i have 45 t10 portals

[ripe peak]

Finally W

[violet solstice]

Now we just need ds map

Ds map must be gone!11

[keen nexus]

I miss them already 🥹

[keen nexus]

no

ds map saved my life

[fallow badge]

128 stars, i hope this shit get deleted today

[keen nexus]

clan war league stars

https://tenor.com/view/clash-of-clans-mayaspapayas-warden-walk-coco-loon-air-bomb-gif-27023415

[violet solstice]

BRO WHAT THE FUCKKKKK

I USED DOMAIN YET THEY STILL CAN WALK

HOW CAN THEY DODGE FUCKING DOMAIN😭🙏

[keen zodiac]

Gojos domain?

pretty sure the same happens with Diegos the world

[violet solstice]

Yeah

Any domain

like bro

[keen zodiac]

it gets on my nerve esp when bosses dont stop

[violet solstice]

Dodge modifier automatically makes it impossible for it to get stunned

[keen zodiac]

Bro that spark enemy element

I hate it so much

Stuns units which are immune to stun

Saber, Sukuna

it pisses me off sm

[fallow badge]

fr

[keen nexus]

cosmic element the enemies now immune to all ailments

[violet solstice]

delete this shit

[fallow badge]

delete!!!!!!!!!!!!

[violet solstice]

Remove blastholy

[tough pulsar]

Remove all of them

[keen zodiac]

This shit is diabolical

It wouldn't have been that bad if they had tested it better

I don't know who thought this was gonna be a good idea

[fallow badge]

we can only use passion and holy units

[keen zodiac]

This against bosses is gay btw

[fallow badge]

all other elements just debuff our units

[keen zodiac]

Yep

[fallow badge]

this shit don't make sense

[violet solstice]

Somebody uses water attacks???

nobody is using water attacks

there are no meta units that are water type

[fallow badge]

we dont care

[violet solstice]

Yeah

that’s why the element reactions is not diabolical

Only blastholy is diabolical

[fallow badge]

u dumb

u can only use holy and passion units

if u dont want all ur units get debuffed

[violet solstice]

Gilgamesh

Gojo

I tihnk

[ripe peak]

He is unbound also

[violet solstice]

oh

Then gojo

Gojo isn’t affected

Cuz of status ailment

You’re fucked if Gojo ain’t ethereal or monarch

[fallow badge]

yeah cause make so much sense u have to use on unique unit

bro stfu, is better

[ripe peak]

Only monarch, eth healing the boss a fucking lot

[fallow badge]

yeah gojo attacking 10sg from a holy portal that makes the enemys heals 10% life

[violet solstice]

true

[fallow badge]

LOL!

[ripe peak]

Its a really fun mechanic for an endgame gamemode, not for fucking portals where everyone plays with randoms

[violet solstice]

What elemental reaction is that

[ripe peak]

Yep

[ripe peak]

Cosmic holy

[fallow badge]

all elemental + holy make that

ALL

no elements can scape

[violet solstice]

Nop

Blast holy makes 3%

Not 10%

[ripe peak]

Per HIT, not attack

[violet solstice]

You said 10%

But any elemental + holy is 3%

ANY

is 3%

[ripe peak]

Holy holy doesnt do anything tho, but using only holy units on a fucking portal is braindead

[violet solstice]

Cosmic is also 3%

[fallow badge]

for those who says elemental reactions are not diabolical, im pretty sure they can't do that

[fallow badge]

enemies on wave 5 havin 700k life

😴

[violet solstice]

What map though

LOL

[fallow badge]

YEAH BRO

YEAH

[violet solstice]

YOU PICKED SPIDER FOREST

[fallow badge]

DONT MAKE SENSE

[ripe peak]

He said 10% bc the average unit is 3-4 placements, and also luckily Gojo is one hit

[fallow badge]

U NEED TO GRIND NAMEK PORTALS

[ripe peak]

3 Lancers are healing the boss 36% hp per attacks LMAOOO

[violet solstice]

what

[fallow badge]

What's the fucking point in having to make a portal from a single specific map with super specific elements and super specific modifiers if it's not impossible?

[ripe peak]

He got 5 hits last upgrade

[fallow badge]

How difficult is it to understand that this is not right, it is not normal!

[violet solstice]

Delete it

just use single hits then

[ripe peak]

So 15 hits since 3 placements, wait i did it bad lmao

[violet solstice]

like GOJO

[ripe peak]

15 x 3 45% hp healing LOL

[ripe peak]

He is still healing 9% hp unless monarch

You can only use holy units on holy portals, which is braindead

We got the tiers difficulty and modifiers difficulty, we dont need fucking reactions

[fallow badge]

I think this guy is just saying that to annoy, not even an autistic person is that stupid

[violet solstice]

What you mean

I used gojo and he isn’t affected

[violet solstice]

Shut your bum ass up

You can’t even beat a tier 10

[ripe peak]

Bc it affects the enemies? Not Gojo lmao

[fallow badge]

You stfu

u dumb

dont know what u saying

[violet solstice]

I do not understand elemental reaction

what you mean

[ripe peak]

Its normal, the system is shit

[fallow badge]

we don't understand it, he thinks u can only use a gojo and solo everthing, and this not happen

[violet solstice]

you said gojo will be debuted

Debuffed

[ripe peak]

Most of them are a nerf instead of buff

[fallow badge]

I CHALLENGE him to record an entire run doing what he says is right and win in the end

[violet solstice]

how do you record again

[ripe peak]

The enemies get a 3% hp healing per hit, so Gojo would make the boss heal 9% hp per attacks unless monarch

[violet solstice]

I’m using monarch gojo

Yeah

Monarch gojo

[ripe peak]

Thats why

[violet solstice]

My bad daeg

Just don’t pick holy portals then

[lost dock]

i also feel like the debuffs impact a run more than the buffs do

[violet solstice]

and ds map

[lost dock]

most of the buffs are useless

[fallow badge]

Don't waste your time, he doesn't want to understand basics things and he must be under 17 years old

[fallow badge]

fr

[lost dock]

while most of the debuffs fuck you over

without the proper team

[ripe peak]

Ds map is that bad? I just play namek and shibuya

[fallow badge]

passion buff is useless

[violet solstice]

700k in 5 waves

it’s that bad

[ripe peak]

The boss or enemies

[violet solstice]

enemy

[ripe peak]

Thats so fucking mess up, w hp scaling from the devs

[violet solstice]

I delete any ds map

cuz SOMETIMES

I GET 3 OF THEM ALL DS

make the portals different

Not all the same

Bum ass mechanic

[keen zodiac]

Akaza skin

ion got sukuna gojo or saber rn

poor ahh luck

[fallow badge]

elemental reactions is a good idea for paragon, tournaments, boss rush's but not for portals, not for raids and history i dont know what the dev' have on mind

and then they don't understand why the game is dying and why they are preferring to go to others 🤨

[runic sky]

My concerns are, that this elemental reactions thing causes more drawbacks than benefits

Almost all the reactions cause a debuff/negative impact on your units, or just outright makes the enemies heal to max hp

[fleet willow]

Yeah , I wouldn't say delete because they clearly spent a lot of time on this , but definitely needs a rework

I was expecting them to be buffs not debuffs

[ripe peak]

Either rework or keep it for another gamemode

[sour orbit]

Ts (this) upd ahh

[keen zodiac]

This has so much potential for tournaments

Thats somewhere u wont mind these elemental reactions

Rather than buffing/nerfing elements, which has become quite stale now

[runic sky]

Delaying it for another gamemode isn't the solution

We need these portals to be actually less mentally taxing

There are some ppl who just wanna enjoy the game, not sit at the wiki checking type effectiveness and building a team for it

I would understand if it was like" Some elements deal fatal dmg to this element" Or " Some element deal endured dmg to this element "

[ripe peak]

My solution is really simple as i say in the suggestion, just fucking remove it and make portals have 1 random elemental buff and 1 random elemental nerf/resistance

[ripe peak]

Yep

[runic sky]

Yhea exactly

Love the idea

Hate the implementation

Elements has potential

[stray elbow]

i dont think it should be removed from the game or portals but instead they should actually add an index explaining each interaction

and balance out the ones that basically give inf regen

[runic sky]

I never said remove either, just rework it to have smth like supereffective types and not very effective types

[runic sky]

It isn't even inf, it's beyond that. They start overhealin (they almost double their hp sometimes)

Pyseph, pls look into this, if it's a bugg

[stray elbow]

i dont even mind the difficulty i just want the portals buffed

[runic sky]

I like the difficulty too, it's just the elements are full of bs

"Oh no I took 0.001 dmg, lemme heal to infinity and beyond"

The point of elemental reactions is that they should benefit the player in most cases

[stray elbow]

theres like 1 buff 😭

[runic sky]

Rn all it does is make out units hot garbage

[ripe peak]

There is a fucking combo that heals the enemies 10% max hp per hit lmfao

[runic sky]

3 actually

[keen zodiac]

water hitting a nature enemy?

[ripe peak]

Yeah i think

[runic sky]

Remember that sukuna has the worst case for types, both his elements are trash for portals since they get countered by almost every element

[runic sky]

Change the suggestion to ' Rework elemental interaction'

[ripe peak]

Some people did that alr

My suggestion is good i think, remove it from portals and save it for another gamemode

[runic sky]

Until devs fix it, we can't give up

[ripe peak]

Yeah also i keeped it simple, removing it from portals its just a few minutes and the devs can easily do it

[runic sky]

Maybe a hard mode perhaps

[ripe peak]

A rework takes time

[ripe peak]

Yep

[runic sky]

I do hope they get an actual community member for management and balancing

[stray elbow]

heh let me be teh balancer

trust ill save av

[runic sky]

Cuz clearly their "testers" Are not doing anything other than bug checks

Which also is ignored btw

9-10 gamebreaking bugs every single time

[violet solstice]

REMOVE DS MAP AND REVITALIZE FROM PORTALS

[runic sky]

Revitalize + wrong element = infinite health

[keen zodiac]

just did a revitalize + regen t10 solo

wasnt that hard? maybe bc namek 💀

[violet solstice]

Its solo.

Try To do it without solo

And yeah because its namek

[sour orbit]

Do it with the wrong elements lol

They will be unkillable

[jovial willow]

is this her best trait

lowkey still want monarch but since shes local cd it might be good

[keen zodiac]

monarch has more dps

and u can sell, use, repeat

in inf runs

and obv monarch always better for shorter gamemodes

tho i got eth on her aswell, monarch is js better

but u can say 3 nukes > 1 big nuke

[keen zodiac]

Yeah fair lol

tho im using sukuna who has a pretty mid pair of elements

ngl ragna is pretty damn good for these portals

[drowsy cedar]

Bump

[ripe peak]

W, you can keep 1-2 for repulse and max the rest for nuke

[lilac urchin]

b

hope they delete this

[pure quartz]

whoever suggested elemental reactions needs to be banned

[sour orbit]

Best suggestion Ive seen in a while

[carmine needle]

they should delete spider forest ngl

[sour orbit]

And sbr

Ts too hard

[ripe peak]

They did already

[carmine needle]

they deleted that one

spider forest horned demon has 45k hp at Tier 2

[sour orbit]

What if my portal was sbr tho

[carmine needle]

😭

[ripe peak]

More like fix the fucking hp scaling

[carmine needle]

it gets changed i think

mine was sbr and it got changed to namek

[sour orbit]

I hope its namek

[sour orbit]

Monarch is far better

[carmine needle]

the hp scaling is horrible

[sour orbit]

Keep eth tho dont be delusional

[carmine needle]

how is a horned demon having 45k at just tier 5

[sour orbit]

Ur not getting monarch

[carmine needle]

😭

[jovial willow]

Even for imf?

[sour orbit]

Yes

[jovial willow]

Ic

[sour orbit]

Whatd u expect

This is a gacha game

They suck

[thin harness]

😭

[sour orbit]

Nah

Not a bad idea

They just executed it horribly

[carmine needle]

they didn't even use the guy suggestion well also it was @thin harness

[sour orbit]

chinese water torture the guy who said to add elements to portals

[runic sky]

Yes

[runic sky]

Fr

[runic sky]

Idk what u doing man, mine got 70k 😭😭

[sour orbit]

Someone ping pyseph they needa see ts

[turbid fox]

i agree

[sour orbit]

ping him urself🙏

[jovial willow]

its not the idea thats bad

its just that the devs made reactions the most confusing shit ever

holy on unbound literally makes it so no other reaction can happen

unbound on holy regens

like what were they thinking

[sour orbit]

fr

like almost every one is debuff

and awful ones at that

[carmine needle]

yea someone ping him. (not me)

[jovial willow]

@/ pyseph if you see this cuz you searching up ur name please come talk

[arctic canyon]

it just dont make sense to put it in portals like why are we forced to do it. in something that's meant to be grinded for a lot, these stuff should be reserved for something much more challenging that is NOT portals

[sour orbit]

someone please ping pyseph 🙏

[arctic canyon]

idk if we can

there might be a bot that doesnt let u i think

[sour orbit]

Well the devs do look at the suggestions he'll read this eventually

[arctic canyon]

hopefully

[agile seal]

i think tengen wouldnt do bad

and a friend with monarch toji

i cannot wait to give out some of my 4 okuruns

[runic sky]

Is any unit even good from the winter event?

So far all everyone says they trash

[mortal scaffold]

ragna and gogeta

rem and ram also good

emilia meta support bc more freeze duration

[runic sky]

Ty

Appreciate it

[arctic canyon]

the only mid ones is kareem and foboko but the rest are actually pretty good

[runic sky]

1/2 of the banner huh...

[mortal scaffold]

karem is good lol

fubuki is the only mid unit

[sour orbit]

I would say that I do not agree if it were not for the fact that I do not understand anything, that is what a system like Swordlines is for, much better.

[arctic canyon]

only really good if you want to make a burn team with him, but otherwise he's just in-between. he's not that great and he's not too bad either

emilia and rem are better imo

[mortal scaffold]

his DOT is pretty good

[arctic canyon]

yeah ik thats why i say he's in-between since you need a good burn unit to pair with him, while the 2 i mentioned don't really need any as they perform fine on their own

karem is too dependant on a burn unit

[uncut shuttle]

Looking back on it, this change wasn't that even bad

it's the bugs that ruined the update - specifically the one that resulted in the tier 10 portal boss to have 12m hp, due to the enemies scaling with the amount of people in a portal.

[arctic canyon]

😭

[uncut shuttle]

which is probably the reason why a LOT of people didn't play the update

it only has 1.5m hp now

[arctic canyon]

yeah it was a huge bugfest

[wide vine]

This tbh. I would've liked elements more if there was indication of the reactions in-game so I didn't have to pull out the wiki, but the real problem child was the amount of bugs

[violet latch]

why delete

this is cool

[unreal shoal]

-said no one ever

[violet latch]

?

[tawny raptor]

This is not cool kaisan💔😭

[fleet willow]

It could be cool if done right

But this way its just like they copied paragon modifiers (stuns/heals)

Needs more buffs

[ripe peak]

Bump

[arctic canyon]

would be so cool if it wasn't plastered on portals just because, i wanna grind portals peacefully and not have to worry about a whole essay worth about finding out which elements do on what element... save that for a different gamemode, thanks. 🙂

[ripe peak]

Bump

[jovial willow]

bum

[arctic canyon]

bum

[ashen mason]

nah just get good

[sturdy valley]

u a bum

[slate badger]

Bump

[vernal galleon]

Literally lost 2 portals because of this stupid shit

[violet solstice]

You just buns fr

[vernal galleon]

Buddy we had monarch sukuna, monarch gyro, eth saber and deadeye saber

We even had Alucard

But the boss keep regen for some stupid reason

[violet solstice]

what map though

[violet solstice]

What map though

[vernal galleon]

Planet namek

[violet solstice]

Ain’t no way

[vernal galleon]

Fast modifier

The boss keep regenerating even after applying bleed

[violet solstice]

bros stupid

[vernal galleon]

Buddy what the fuck are we supposed to do

[violet solstice]

you’re supposed to not do shit

[vernal galleon]

??

[violet solstice]

You can’t beat him

you either get a single hit like gojo

because he keep regenerating 3% every HIT

sukuna is not a single hit

saber is just ass without monarch

[violet solstice]

And you got holy element

do your homework🙏

[vernal galleon]

Buddy

[violet solstice]

what now?

[vernal galleon]

That mf regenerates like 500k hp in 1 second

[violet solstice]

because you’re spamming attacks😭

that’s why he keeps regenerating

[vernal galleon]

There was like 1-2 saber that was attacking

That happened right at almost the end of the track

[violet solstice]

Deadass

How many dmg does your saber do

[jovial willow]

BROO

[violet solstice]

how many hp does the boss have

[jovial willow]

YOUR BUNSSS

[vernal galleon]

Literally 30k

[vernal galleon]

1.9m

[jovial willow]

mf said namek

I was thinking demon slayer

[vernal galleon]

I wouldn’t complain if it was spider forest

That map came straight from hell

[jovial willow]

if this was pre multiplayer multiplier nerf I would believe you and feel bad

[violet solstice]

😭😭😭

[vernal galleon]

Also we had a leech in the game

[violet solstice]

dawg

[vernal galleon]

That caused us to lose the 2nd portal 💔

[violet solstice]

the boss heal 57k every hit

How many hits per attack did your saber do

[vernal galleon]

And there was 1-2 saber hitting him

[vernal galleon]

Literally 1

[violet solstice]

You do like no damage

[vernal galleon]

We had 2 monarchs

[violet solstice]

it just heals him by 27k

[violet solstice]

Like that’s gonna help considering sukuna and gyro is a multi hit😭🙏

You either get monarch gojo🙏or

monarch toji

he helps 👍

[vernal galleon]

It wasn’t holy element

It was water and curse/cosmic

[violet solstice]

Wha

[vernal galleon]

He still heals like 500k

[violet solstice]

Are you sure?

[vernal galleon]

Yea

I remembered

[violet solstice]

what boss are you even attacking

[vernal galleon]

Vegeta

[violet solstice]

Fucking Zeno?

oh

that’s impossible

[vernal galleon]

Is it a bug

[violet solstice]

he can’t heal 500k per second

[vernal galleon]

Or is it other elemental reactions

[violet solstice]

It either has to be holy

or nothing

because cosmic makes debuff nonexistent

and water curse makes every debuff applied to the enemy goes to the unit also in a small radius

are you sure it’s not holy

[vernal galleon]

Mb I’m a fucking dumbass 🤦‍♂️

[uncut shuttle]

what does holy do again?

[vernal galleon]

I probably got it mixed up with 2nd portal

[violet solstice]

Every hit 3% heal

[vernal galleon]

It’s water and holy

But still tho holy attacking holy doesn’t heal

[violet solstice]

it does though

[uncut shuttle]

oh

[violet solstice]

wym

[vernal galleon]

It doesn’t

Js checked the wiki

If 2 element meets it have no reaction

[violet solstice]

How many hp when it went to the sabers

[uncut shuttle]

so 57k per attack?

just use saber's ability for that

at least that's what I do

[vernal galleon]

Literally like 1.3-1.4m

Then it just somehow magically heals to full hp

[violet solstice]

im no helper

[vernal galleon]

I was in fucking disbelief

[autumn arrow]

try reading what elemental reactions do

we had boss regenerating for 5k hp each attack, turned out water units healed them

as long as you read, portals are easy, well, t10's at least

[violet solstice]

I hate portals

we need 2x speed🙏

ts too long for a mobile user😭🙏

[warm onyx]

AHAHAHAHHAHA 2x Speed??!?!!?!

[violet solstice]

Yes

[warm onyx]

Bro 6min = 1 run

[violet solstice]

Have you done 130 portals manually

[warm onyx]

More than 130 i think

[violet solstice]

Well I don’t really have time to grind

considering 10 portals is like an hour

[jovial willow]

yall dont count multiple runs

[violet solstice]

that’s what I’m saying

[jovial willow]

so you see 6 mins as one run and think ah thats fast

2x speed can turn a 4 hour run into a 2 hour one

thats more

[warm onyx]

Let's just make a game where you can get everything in 10 minutes and forget about it

2x speed worst suggestion ever

Bro i already have all units (except Gojita) from update evo

Its so ez

[jovial willow]

Bro did not listen to me

Pulled 10 minutes out of your ass

[arctic canyon]

people who have too much time or have nothing better to do always going against the most goated qol stuff like speed because not everyone has enough time to spend 💔

[modern mountain]

"I already have all units (except for the one where you actually need to grind a long time and that they dont have the time for which is why they want 2x speed ) from update evo"

Insane

[warm onyx]

The developers have said 100 times that they won't add x2 speed

Because 3min - 1 game

Its something amazing

[modern mountain]

Yea and thats fine. Idm it but for some people who really dont have the time to grind, it would just be a nice qol feature

[ashen mason]

they said unsure not never

[modern mountain]

And thats why I say it should only be in gamemodes like portals or dandadan where you are grinding for a 0.005% unit

[warm onyx]

I agree with Dan Da Dan event

But Winter event so ez

[modern mountain]

Its easy, but still takes a long ass time to grind for gogeta. Time which a lot of people simply dont have and also a lot of people dont have the patience to manually grind for literal days worth of time just to get a single thing they want

[warm onyx]

If you listened the Stage, they said it's not part of their plans

[modern mountain]

Not part of their plans doesn't mean its not ever coming lmao?

That just means its not on their main list

and they could decide to add it last second or smth

[ashen mason]

[warm onyx]

Yh i know, but Gojita is Vanguard unit. And he become tradeable in future

Not everyone should have Gogeta in their inventory, that's the whole point of rarity

[modern mountain]

Ik. talking about vanguards, nerf the hell out of gogeta. PLEASE. He is a vanguard unit which are supposed to be rare collectables and the pinnicale of trading, not a meta bending unit

[ashen mason]

people only gonna trade him from broly probably

[vapid crystal]

What cosmetic does broly have?

[ashen mason]

is he that good idk what he does

[warm onyx]

So many Shinys become tradeable i think

[modern mountain]

Yea and im fine with that. But even if you double the speed it takes to get him I bet less than 1% would still actually have him

[ashen mason]

and thats ok

[modern mountain]

Absurd dps and has a 10% to do a full aoe slow and gain 5% dmg (up to 50%) instead of attacking

Like he is the #1 dps unit in game

[warm onyx]

yh i know

[ashen mason]

yeah they prob need to nerf that than

[modern mountain]

oh and also he can tp wherever on the map every 20 seconds and once you tp him he gets like -20% spa for 20 seconds... which is infinitely loopable

aka meaning he effectively has inf range

[ashen mason]

he doesn't lose a few upgrades when he tp's?

[modern mountain]

nope he loses nothing. He gets it on placement

and it stays

[ashen mason]

💀

[modern mountain]

no max amount of uses, no long cds, no nothing

just an effectively perm 20% spa decrease and inf range!

seems fair!

ontop of absurdly high dps

yep very fair!

only downside is that you have to manually activate it every time, no auto activate for it (thankfully)

[ashen mason]

so i could move him a inch to the right or left every 20sec if i wanted too to keep the buff NICE AND FARE

[modern mountain]

yep

[noble marlin]

nothing in the game is worth a broly

broly value too high

[jovial willow]

vump

[ripe peak]

Bump

[sour orbit]

Bump

[drowsy cedar]

bump

[vernal galleon]

You don’t consider the fact that some phones overheat from just doing 1 portal

This literally made it impossible for them to do long grind

[ripe peak]

If ur phone overheat with just a fucking portal the phone is like 5 years old

[vernal galleon]

Oh buddy my phone is older than 5 years

It’s an iPhone XR

[ripe peak]

Oh yeah

[autumn arrow]

no

wont do much

the game would scale for 2x

its the same situation as pet sim 99, they gave you an option to open one trillion eggs at once

but the consequence is that the chances are abysmally low now

just a dopamine booster basically

nothing more

[jovial willow]

pet sim 99 comparison 💔

[autumn arrow]

yeah because thats the brightest example of something like this

this comparison is very easy to understand

[ornate plinth]

i don’t even understand what this means
like the elements thing they made

[violet solstice]

Debuffs and a lot of debuffs and small buffs👍

[sturdy valley]

They're clearly not getting rid of it atp, they got it in mind that 'We worked hard for disz!!!'
I'll be glad if i was wrong

[young dust]

this doesnt even matter since namek is easy enough to not give a damn about the element reactios and shibuya u need atleast a person or two with monarch and u beat it without giving a damn about the elements aswell

[jovial willow]

still think it needs to be reworked

[jovial willow]

bumpo

[arctic canyon]

it's just modifiers with extra steps 🙏

[unreal shoal]

Id bet that all of these are just a bunch of spaghetti codes, 80% of which are “if-else”

[timid furnace]

bump

This NEEDS to be gone 😭

[strange fern]

Bump cuz ts is ass

[timid furnace]

if holy was removed it would be so much better, but the whole system is kinda weird

[thin harness]

you can just use bleed/rupture to stop holy enemies

[timid furnace]

True, but you also gotta choose a bleed or rupture that applies the effect for a decently long time (enough for SPA to come back) and that's decently hard to find without either spending alot of money upgrading the units, or sacrificing on DPS or event currency.
But also that all doesnt matter if you get unlucky enough to get a holy cosmic lol.

[stark drift]

One w suggestion inna while

[thin harness]

lancer, and alucard
lancer on placements usually gets the job done

[timid furnace]

alucard's rupture lasts too little time, especially if your playing with other people (+3% health regen per hit) (which this mode is trying to push)
MOST good units are multihit, i guess other than gojo and gilga, but that's not ALL people are gonna be running.
I havent checked lancer tho, might be a gamechanger imma have to test that

[thin harness]

lancers rupture lasts forever

also they can't regen if they die

so just use ragna or some other high dps

and end them

[timid furnace]

well the thing is supports like alligator, or fuboko, saber, and julias can also hit it with low dps. Which each hit is +3% health again.
The holy trait as a whole is pretty aggressive towards support, high multihit units, and multiplayer in general.
There are ways to get around holy, sure, but playing around elements like that is weird when modifiers are meant to make you do that.
Plus it's pretty reliant on monarch, which is never really a good thing. There are ways to get around it, but it shouldn't really exist.

[thin harness]

you could run ragna with just dmg supports(fubuki, miku, subaru) nothing can survive that unless its spider forest with strong modifer

it does roughtly 1 mil dmg

and ragna is holy element itself

same with saber

[timid furnace]

the thing is you get ragna from playing the portals, you gotta get lucky through the portals to get ragna, so before you get him, holy is still an issue

[thin harness]

you can use a holy unit

ishtar, gilgamesh, saber

dio

they won't heal them

[thin harness]

i like the system more then a dislike it, it encourages the use of variety of units although thats only if you can;t comfortably beat the portal, if u can then reactions become irelevent

[timid furnace]

Like I said, there are ways around it, but the concept as a whole is wack, having to change your team's dps to all holy, remove your non holy characters that are multihit or not monarch, play without non holy supports, idk I think there are way better ways to encourage diversity in units, like already having the event currency multiplier.
I have a problem with it because I like to grind out the portals with friends, and they aren't nearly as ahead as me in the game, so for me this is a bigger issue.

[thin harness]

thats fair

[timid furnace]

I liked this kinda thing in crossworlds, because u do like 50 levels and ur done, but this is also something u do constantly for a WHILE

Which u gotta go switch your team, change your strategy, for something that you kinda have to grind for a long time, it shouldn't really be like this

[thin harness]

was hoping they implemented reactions diffrently when i suggested it(which was most reactions being buffs) but it never made it in

they just took the framework of 2 elements interacting with eachother

[timid furnace]

Yeah, not sure if that was the best play

[thin harness]

definatly can be implmented better in another gamemode

not portals

[timid furnace]

I like this implementation in general, but in portals is like the one place where i think it shouldnt be implemented.

IG story mode too but thats a given

When you have to grind portals for a long time to get a really low chance of a unit, the last thing you want is to have to change your team constantly, it's really a drag, especially when you're playing a gamemode that rewards multiplayer, but you also have an element that DISCOURAGES multiplayer

[thin harness]

yeah i agree with that point

[timid furnace]

And that adds an extra level of coordination with the people you play with, we just wanna play the game and watch tv, not pay close attention and shift stuff around
for crossworlds, this is very nice tho (except holy and cosmic combination)

🤝

[hearty nebula]

"The game is too easy" - said by anyone, and now asking for this lol, what a players

[jovial willow]

its so true

demon slayer was complained about for weeks

ppl said its too hard

[arctic canyon]

more like the grind got annoying and why do we need this feature on portals 💀

hard content can be added that is NOT portals at the very least

[jovial willow]

av players get burnt and cry and then say that they are bored after and burn themselves again

[arctic canyon]

tbf this game is already burning itself

[jovial willow]

wym

[thin harness]

You can’t expect players do repeat the same stage hundreds of times and expect them to not to get bored

[jovial willow]

no no

thats fair

Im saying like they get everything completed after saying its hard then complain when theres nothing to do or that the game is too easy

rinse repeat

[ebon gull]

thats why we should get pvp mode

[thin harness]

Most td games lack a good endgame loop

Which I think is the major problem

[ebon gull]

but the main issue of portals being boring is the fact that there are 3 maps and 1 is obviously easier than the rest making people not want to use the other ones

[thin harness]

A simple fix to this is to simply increase the present gain depending on the map

Would incourage players to take on harder stages

[ebon gull]

or add more story maps

[thin harness]

Don’t think that would be needed

Just a small amount from each category

[ebon gull]

but having namek being the only wanted map is kinda dumb

[thin harness]

Legend, story raid

Etc

[thin harness]

Yeah that’s why maps like the demon slayer one should get a reward increase

[ebon gull]

if they added like sand village or double dungeon it would be better

like the t5 portals

for ragna

and suburu

[thin harness]

Feel the major issue was that they would have to reskin a lot more maps then needed for an event that would only be seasonal

[ebon gull]

well look at sbr

it got reskined just to be removed

[thin harness]

That was mostly a mistake in development cause they couldn’t properly gauge the difficulty for the average player

In which that’s there own fault

[ebon gull]

they couldve just nerfed it

[thin harness]

The major problem was lag and sturdy enemies

[ebon gull]

but they deleted the glorious map

[thin harness]

Most players couldn’t even play the map

Cause it was just to laggy

[vocal thunder]

The implementation of reactions is cool but not on portals. I only do namek and shibuya. Majority of my portals are demon slayer and I can’t even beat it with all of my monarchs. There’s a fine line between difficult content and impossible, no matter the reaction or element I will not touch the demon slayer map. I think they should add more maps into the portal rotation. I am not sure why there are only three available.

[autumn arrow]

idk about that first statement but i agree with everything else

i just cannot beat any spider forests

even if i make a team that consists of only needed characters

they need to tone down the difficulty of this map

or just dont touch raid maps and use story maps for this

[vocal thunder]

I think reactions are cool and they could be implemented in more difficult content. I’ve never had to think about what I need to bring into a portal. It also unfairly punishes some players, if you don’t have holy for holy element goodluck. We already have modifiers too which make some portals virtually impossible even if you have a full four monarch especially on spider forest. The raid map itself isn’t even that difficult so I’m not sure why the portal version is impossible.

[thin harness]

nothings impossible [Redacted]

u just got to have the right units

[vocal thunder]

so a lot of monarchs I guess?

or alucard?

[thin harness]

ragna clears any portal

[vocal thunder]

even spider forest?

[thin harness]

yes

they would have to have cosmic/Nature and Strong + Shielded thats like the only combination it can't clear

everything else he clears

[arctic canyon]

ragna 💔

[agile seal]

local cooldown says NUH UH

[ashen mason]

His name is goofie for a reason pay him no mind

[ebon gull]

erm

[patent minnow]

Fucking lucky bro

[runic sky]

U gotta admit that the elements are buns rn, they made it unnecessary and complicated and they should have just stuck to "this element gets a buff and this element gets a debuff and everything else is nuetral"

For portals

For other gamemodes, the element reactions just is a huge annoyance more than anything and should be removed entirely. (Better used for tournament to best results)
The game basically tells u, bring all of the extremely specific type. Which is crazy considering there aren't enough units for each element to really warrant this

[jovial willow]

this was when the reduced difficultly by removing the multiplayer scale

[runic sky]

Still buns rn

[jovial willow]

yeah I agree

I recently started using a mah crow for portals and shibuyas scaling was insane

was tryna solo with 2 monarch

[runic sky]

Crazy, I've been basically just spamming namek

I got like 20 portals of namek, so it is guaranteed to do namek atleast 20 times

Works very well tbh

[keen nexus]

you won

they are changing it

🔥

no more infi healing vegeta holy element

[indigo jewel]

[keen nexus]

we won

[indigo jewel]

They not changing it

[keen nexus]

they are 🗣️

[indigo jewel]

💀 💀

[keen nexus]

no longer bs ahh effect

now its just dumb baby food stuff

[indigo jewel]

Thats why studying is important

💀

[keen nexus]

No more infi healong vegeta tay gets 10k heals every milisecond

[indigo jewel]

[keen nexus]

I mean yeh its not being deleted doe

[indigo jewel]

The table is just gettjng added to game nothing else

[keen nexus]

but they already implemented it so ig they just wanna change the bs effects and nerfing it to simple things

[indigo jewel]

[keen nexus]

infi healing holy element one horned demon

[keen nexus]

nawh

[indigo jewel]

Maybe sukuna got a rework

[indigo jewel]

Yawh

[keen nexus]

the table is in the wiki doe

[indigo jewel]

Yeah its getting in game now

[keen nexus]

I love tables, doe chairs cleara

[indigo jewel]

Cause it was a hassle

[keen nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/setting-up-this-is-happening-arrange-chairs-seats-gif-16252081

[indigo jewel]

Whatever u like idc about that but its not changi n

And we getting sukuna rework ig

[keen nexus]

so you are telling me holy elements still heal like mahoraga

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-saucelot-bd-bluray-jjk-gif-16541432778784115709

[indigo jewel]

Just use bleed

[keen nexus]

holy bypasses that

[indigo jewel]

They made it so it doesnt heal that much

[indigo jewel]

Where u living

[keen nexus]

LIER

they heal 50k

[keen nexus]

under the bridge cause Im a

Bring back sbr portals 🔥

[indigo jewel]

Its like bleed for regen now

[indigo jewel]

[keen nexus]

joe

can we all agree that boruto is the best piece of fiction?

[indigo jewel]

[keen nexus]

STOP LOOKING UP

[indigo jewel]

[agile seal]

that title will forever be adventure time imo

[keen nexus]

I fw adventure time but boruto clears no cap

[runic sky]

Absolute peak adventure time

Nothing compares

[jovial willow]

bump