#Change Subaru's special ability. it sucks.
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bruv why is ts so complicated 💔
Shit is fate level tf 💀
Not that it's a bad thing-
If I ever have the free time, I might dive in headfirst with the anime
no garuntees tho
wait do u got an adblocker i can use? never use them tbh
do u use chrome? I've got one
oh uhhh
if its pc just use ublock origin
thats the usual
also if you want to buy digitally on amazon you can do that as well
(not necessary at all tho)
no money 💔
opera
i think its the most used adblocker
also idk how up to date jnovels site is, or if its obsolete or not
0of. I can't really help with that one
been years since i accessed it
maybe theres better places to grab LNs
i got opera too
uh this is to complicated for me rn 😭 im tired and too lazy to do ten thousand steps just to read it in its entirety 😭
I might check it out tomorrow
morning
not sure
how do u install it on opera? i only see links to chrome and firefox?
I might just be stupid though
I was talking about the Re:Zero stuff... not the adblocker XD
hold on let me check
An efficient blocker: easy on memory and CPU footprint, and yet can load and enforce thousands more filters than other popular blockers out there.
Usage: The big power button in the popup is to permanently disable/enable uBlock for the current web site. It applies to the current web site only, it is not a global power button.
Flexible, it...
oh LOL
np
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its one of the most reputable adblockers
np
now that it is installed, does it automatically work?
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/opera-will-independently-continue-supporting-ublock-origin heres an article on it lol
yes
it should i think
k ty 🙏
if you check the extension tab itll be lit up red
wait will it fuck up yt?
cuz didn't yt prevent u from watching videos if you have an adblocker or whatever
that look right?
hrmmm
seems to work for opera gx too, and is better than what I was using before
ty, unironically
bump
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bump
In most situations hakura is still more useful. But yea in things like tournament or inf he is better
Wdym He gets more damage using rbd and his buffer abilities are also nice. He is in a good Spot. No need for him to be turbo broken like ragna or gil
thank you kuna we glaze you kuna
This suggestion just boils down to “I’m mad my favorite character isn’t a game breakingly OP monarch dps”
Sabaru use cases:
- Tourney
- Inf
- Raids
- Portals
- Boss events
Haruka use cases
- Story
- Legend Stage
- Challenge
- Paragon
bump
yep
No we just want him to be actually cool
Im pretty sure that FBI didn't want the ability to be gamebreaking, but more fit how his character is in the series
some map vfx upon activating rbd would've been enough for me lol
Same
Fair enough. Though idk how to convey RBD other than giving him diavolo’s ability- what he has rn is fine imo but I get it
I think he/she (not sure) wanted to see subaru be a buffer/debuffer like he is in the series, instead of the ability giving himself a buff
Or “we dont want lazily designed characters”
Yall somehow got the message wrong
I guess i was expecting too much
What would a new sabaru kit even be??
I mean we can brainstorm
New ability: return by death
Upon use instantly sell the user and set every enemies on the map back to spawn
5 minutes global cooldown
Literally the most barebone one
We can get creative wirh satella too
Ah diavolo’s ability but different. I was thinking about changing his first passive to
- %20 damage and 10% range right out the gate
I was abt to say “too op” but then I saw “global cooldown.” That could work maybe…?
There’s a chance people may cheese it though for easy wins. Say a player used RBD on wave 20 right as their about to die
Ability: “cor leonis” or “authority of greed”(only available on the last upgrade)
Every units in the user’s range will not suffer any status ailment including stat reductions, in exchange all of said status will be inflicted upon said user
Its really not that hard to make a concept for subaru
Ok this one isn’t bad. I don’t think we have a “tank” unit in game yet
Idk make the upgrade take like 50k$
I suggested doraemon once lol
Suggested him to have every support role
Like tank, buffer, shield breaker all that at once
Bardock is actually a "tank" unit
O, guess I should watch a showcase
Edit: Seen. Pretty unique but 30 second global CD is rough
Bardock aint even worth using as a tank unit
Which is good, tournament units shouldn’t be good
bump
Bardock legit meta if he got Monarch
how so?
34,800 yen to max out, deals 400% more damage to a boss once
are his stats good tho?
Kanji stats btw
Monarch would give him 52,480 damage, 400% more damage = 262K damage to a boss
monarch for a 262k nuke aint that great outside of like... story
thats only 1 hit though right? im pretty sure the 400% is only first hit on boss
it is
According to the story of Re-Zero, Subaru should receive a buff for being close to Emilia Tan and the skill called Return After Death should work like Saber's rewind, but globally, in addition to giving his dmg buff.
Like if you have a good amount of cash he's definitely viable for endgame
well wouldn't his first hit be his base hit?
which would still deal the 400%
but way less dmg
Wait i just had an idea for how the ability could work
My goat got disrespected so hard here
If you die once, instead of actually dieing you would gain your stocks back and all units would be moved back about 15 seconds from where they originally moved (bosses would ignore this ability)
That’s…actually pretty balanced? I was against making all enemies move back to spawn bc that's too OP, idc if it's lore accurate. But making bosses ignore it sounds like a great trade off to me
This would either have a REALLY long cd or be one time use
I would say that all the enemies that get affected gain there health back from 15 seconds ago, but i feel like that would make it useless
Hey
since you'd just die anyways
I have idea
Also enemies wouldn't move back to spawn, just about 15 seconds from where they were when the effect activated
Subaru's ability could be the rewind of knowledge, but as it is a return through death, he uses the ability, rewinds enemies to the end of his range and gives his normal buff.
Even better. In that case yeah enemies wouldn't need to gain their health back then
Ye
And then using the passive would still give his buff back, but that might make him being useless as a buffer since hakura rin would always be better ngl
@cedar snow Wouldn't that make it more balanced? Instead of rewinding the enemies all the way to spawn?
yea, like i said my idea wouldn't have them rewind back to spawn, just 15 seconds from where they were when the passive activated
the number can be changed whenever, but the main idea is that they DONT go all the way back to spawn
just a set distance
based on their speed
However, he can no longer use the skill more than once or sell it.
I'd say you'd still be able to sell him, just make it so that his passive has a long ass cd or is only usable once
my theory for what his ability was gonna do was when he used his ability, for around 20 seconds or something enemies in his range took more damage (like alucards passive) and he would remove those enemies statuses and buffs, but ig i see the support unit angle they were going for
reposition him so he doesn't hit the boss immediately
Yea ig, but i feel like just bringing someone like ragna who can deal that dmg in 2 hits is better...
and for cheaper in the long term too
Youre stupid as hell
Raids? What the hell? No.
Unless you have a monarch dps and hes the 2nd person you attempt to upgrade
Btw with best farms it takes 14 rounds to max a single monarch
You mean average dps damage using rbd. His buffer abilities are worse than rin's until you spend 60k on him
Imagine conflating "actually useful and new meta" with "op and broken"
its better then rins on placement for certain teams
for gojo and ragna its bettter then rin
on placement
8% less dmg buff then haruka on placement
but second passive gives extra dmg to any ability user (10% more)
On placement but like
If youre doing 5k at the start of a game, a 10% buff isn't gonna matter at all
Early game buffs dont matter nearly as much as when you actually upgrade your units so the buffs add a significant amount
It would be for very specific purposes
yeah and subarus on placement buff is comparable to rins for certain units atleast (gojo, Saber, Gilga, alucard)
I just cant believe as the first battlepass unit, rin isnt out of meta yet
ur back! What do u think of my rtz suggestion?
Isnt this only when they use their abilities?
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this
- subaru gets most of his buff on placement instead of waiting 6 waves
Yes this would be pretty good
yea its only if you use ability
thats still 10% more dmg
Its meta but doesnt ruin the game
10% more dmg for when you max out a unit and use their ability which can have a 60s to 120s cooldown?
So its for clutch moments only
And youre basically being asked to have rich farms
let me do the math rq
Though idk who's Ability is the cheapest
I think
actually
gogeta would go insane with that passive
The thing that needs a rework w him is his 2nd passive
a 20 sec cd passive on base
Or whichever one that
which gives him -20% spa already
then on top of that giving him 10% dmg would be even more cracked
Gogeta too
and no one has gogeta 😔
Ig on 50% uptime
except super lucky people
man we need to nerf gogeta
They refuse to add pity to vanguards so why bother grinding them anw
way to strong for something that is supposed to be a "collectable"
because he is meta defining 😭
Half this game's decisions are the best decisions made by any td Devs and the others are made by a chimp on a typewriter
correct me if im wrong(im bad at math)
If you had subaru with gojo, that would mean gojo would get a permenet 6% dmg buff technicly cause 60 second cd with 10% dmg buff
Yes but that's just sheet shilling
In actual gameplay it isn't perma it is for like 1 attack in void where his damage is already diluted
The best part about awtd is that its mostly not about rng but instead crafting
Anyone can get meta units if they put in the work to grind a bit
yeah ig
This it why he needs pity but they refuse to do it
or just heavily nerf him like they should.
He is fine being rare, just fucking nerf him for the love of god
NERF HIM NOW
awtd mentioned🤩
"Rare units need to be rare" like adding a hard pity on gogeta still doesn't make the average player take like 2 months of daily grinding to obtain
true 😭
but again, he is fine being rare and really hard to obtain if he JUST WASN'T GOOD
GRAHHH NERF GOGETA NOWWWW
Average player probably wouldn't stick to portal grinding for a month so like
Slight yap but I remember during thr occult update i got bored and made a document of a rezero anime vanguards update (like a full content update) and this is what Subaru would of been.
Mean-Eyed Strategist
Units in the range of Baru gain decrease SPA.
(-10% for out of series, -25% in the series)
Mental Fortress
Immune to Stun, Each Attack taken increases damage around the unit by 2.5% (Caps at 17.5%)
Return By Death
(Upgrade 8) Active ability, Baru resets himself, completely restarting the wave, reverting the last wave's progress. While Baru and units around him keep any upgrades that were given to him in that timeframe. 60 seconds after RBD is active, increase DMG for allies by 15% and Increase Range by 14% (lasts for around 30 seconds to a minute, global CD and cd is 140 seconds)
Kinda bad but I just wrote whatever
I have a more complex version of his passives in another doc if people wanna see that ig
Involves stuff like hidden meters 💔
Decreasing spa is a way better buff
I think it's buff is too much but I still want him to be viable secondary without rin
Mean-Eyed Strategist
Units in the range of Baru gain decrease SPA and increased range. There can only be one Baru on the map.
(-25% SPA, 10% Range)
Morale Booster
(Upgrade 8) Every unit within Baru’s range gains 3 dodges to every possible attack (but himself) when a boss enters the track.
Return To Life
(Upgrade 8) Active Ability, A voice line of baru saying “I can Return By Death-” and will follow by the world freezing. The map will change into the shadow garden (Think of a domain). Every enemy, including all units, are frozen.
When time resumes, all of the enemies in the track gain the “Misma”, and are more vulnerable to aliments (Burn, Attercut, Bleed, Wounded) will have all of their effects amplified.
Baru himself loses 10% of his sanity, reducing his attack by -5% (Caps at -50% at 0 Sanity)
Return By Death
(Upgrade Max) Sercet Passive, if the players health reaches zero, Baru will activate Return By Death and reset the Wave back completely. A strange and shadowy figure will be visible and in the sky above Subaru. If you listen closer, it's saying “I love you”.
All units within Baru's range after RBD will have all of their stats increased by 15%.
RBD is basically used as a “Second Chance”. If the wave gets passed, the buffs are reduced by -5% until 0%.
After the buffs are gone, 100% of Baru’s sanity drops to zero.
RBD can only be triggered once.```
This the slightly more complex one
More accurate to rezero
I'd be more receptive to your side if you didn't just hurl personal attacks
I get that you're passionate but chill
No youre strawmanning my argument
OP ≠ meta
Meta means actually really more worth using compared to others.
Im not asking for subaru to be "OP"
I know. Most effective tactics available.
And if a character does end up being able to help clear stuff easily then maybe future stages simply get more difficult
As youd expect they will
I think Subaru just being meta in the sense where he's good like rin, being able to pull his own weight and possibly geing better at some things that rin can't do, while rin does things better then Subaru
I like how in-depth this is. It's a good concept, but here are my thoughts.
- 1st passive is good. Tho -25% spa may be a bit much.
- Morale booster seems a little undertuned even for me. Maybe it can increase damage dealt to bosses as well.
- Return to life sounds interesting, I like it. But how long should this time stop last? This also turns him into a DOT support too.
- Return by death sounds busted, resetting the wave back completely is even more bonkers than what diavolo can do. Maybe it should only return enemies to a certain point.
This kit turns Sabaru into a spa buffer, range buffer, time stopper, wave resetter, and DOT support. That's an overloaded kit imo. This will make him insanely hard to powercreep and he'll become a staple of every archetype in the game, which isn’t necessarily a good thing.
This isn't to discredit your work, make no mistake. I like the effort you put in
we're here to brainstorm
Return by death is supposed to be busted, since the sanity feature that isn't explained can kill Subaru if done too much
Let me find it rq
Hidden Meter
Sanity is a hidden Meter that Baru has, losing sanity when dying or calling the witch. Baru can earn sanity back every 2.5% per wave. The more units in his range, the more sanity is recharged.
Baru has a max of 100 Sanity
**If Sanity is overused (Going over the limit) there's a 50% chance Baru will play a animation of having both of his hands on his head and chuckling to himself in a type of “insane” matter.
During this time, he will scratch his forearms (though it won't be visible). If Baru is evolved with Beako, she will comfort him and not make him go insane faster. (I had a idea where Baru had two evos, one with Beatrice as a evo and one without.)
Only way to stop this, is finding a plushie of Milia (sized down) that would spawn on the map and picking it up. And would calm down Baru.**
Bolded means a idea i wasn't 100% with and could be bad
Return by death cant rewind in this game because people dont like the fact that diavolo, a vanguard, would therefore become obsolete
Which is why i only offered a halfway compromise, for him to use satella's curse as a debuff ultimate ability
Or you could just make his ability a protection barrier to reset the stocks of the base when deplered instead of rewinding the distance of enemies
Yeah I concede to that. That was my secret reasoning too. I was afraid that it would de-vaule a vanguard (which can take a while to get, or no time to get if you're lucky and use 🥭 )
If Baru doesn't stop going insane he dies and can't be replaced (basically sold)
Ic
no
No 😔
Man...
Even if they don't change his kit (which I can live without), I want the devs to at least give him an animation
Im just really sad to see no cool ass ability vfx for activating return to zero
make the ability summon 2000 arms satella with 1 million hp
not even the call of the witch sfx
emilia didn't even get sfx
let alone an ability
her abilities make no sound
Yeah, does that change anything or is it still basically the same in ur review
I have some other ones for other rezero characters
Like ram gaining back her horn as a evo to the Oni god
whenever rem gets stunned make her go to sleep
Honestly yeah it changes alot. Since he has a handicap it's not like those crazy buffs have 100% uptime now, which I was worried about
You gotta manage his sanity or ur screwed- we love active gameplay mechanics
Crazy
Emilia not getting a Puck ult made me kinda sad
they just had too many units on their hands
Plus her crit passive couldve been depicted with the iceblood flower ability of hers
should've done a dedicated re zero update
Yeah that was the real big fumble
People asking for a rezero update cause theres a lot of good maps you can use for it and alot of characters with creative powers
Instead theyre like "lets do this genius tactic where we throw them into a winter update so they get overshadowed by the few other new units which we put more effort into!"
i mean there's still a shot at that
Doubtful
Putting your entire main cast separately in an update from the maps themselves, means you need new units for the dedicated one
That implies the side cast is gonna be more meta than the main cast units 😭😭😭
True but like
reinhard satella pandora etc
It just means the devs would be putting more effort into the lesser ones
Beat me to it
Reinhard i still hold the opinion that hed be a horribly boring unit to add
Hes just a deus ex
I only know abt them tho bc of powerscaling
yea
he would
i need an echinda unit and im happy
Pandora would literally just be reality warping "make this enemy disappear"
ALOT of potential
Echidna can be a good unit
maybe a support one lol
Yeah it would be as bad as adding Zeno
Summining Puck's Beast form as her ult
Now that i think about it, another passive subaru could have on activation of rbd
Is witch's scent
Where all enemies in his radius move slower
(Because theoretically theyd be zoning in on subaru)
shouldve added puck familiar and make him serngize with emilia really well
Oooo ok. AOE slow is unique, we don’t have that in game yet
Maybe during this, subaru would just be stunned lol
Idk
Could be permanent slow ability or a longer ability
Definitely cant have him perma stunned tho
im pretty sure in ln emilia surpassed puck
Well i just mean for the sake of the character
Puck is as much to emilia as what beatrice is to subaru
Pam
Passives
Demon Blood
Debuff Immunity (Not Stun Immunity, just DMG, spa and range debuffs); +10% Range, +25% Damage; Decreases SPA by 3% for every attack on a boss (Caps at 20%)
Successor of the Oni Clan
+5% Range, +15% Damage; If Pem is in range = 15% Damage; Every attack now applies “After cut”, Every 0.75s, deals 10% of Pam’s damage for 10 seconds.
Oni God
(Upgrade 9) Active Ability, Pam points her wooden wand to the sky and a large giant hand slams down onto the entire map, dealing 600% of Pam damage to every enemy on track in a large AOE. Bypaases all modifiers and stuns any surviving enemy for 5 seconds, bosses being stunned for 2.5 seconds. 300 seconds CD, Global CD and with each attempt after doing 150% less damage until 300%.
If the ability kills a boss within a timeframe, Pam gains a 2% buff to all stats for three waves.
Ram rework
Otter (Otto, Mythic Farm)
Passives
Burnt Book of Truth
Otter’s upgrade price goes up 10% his placement price each time. In return, any farms in his radius increase their yield by 10% Any Non-Farm units have their upgrade price decreased by 15% for one time each unit.
Financial Mastermind
Otter’s has a 10% chance to 2x the profit gotten when a new wave starts. However once it happens, it can't happen for 10 waves.
she doesnt get her horn back in source material why would they add it here
closest would be ram in arc 6 using subaru's cor leonis to fight at full potential which would be cool if they ever did an arc 6 upd
Vanguards is not technically Canon to any of these worlds, so anything is possible. I would like to think that it's possible for Ram to get her Horn back as a evo material
It be better to send the entire doc so here
Or not
Damn it literally got changed why was their 50+ notifs in this channel when i woke up
Links are automodded 💔
-Otter (Mythic Passion Farm)
(Shiny is in a suit)
(One Placement)
-Beako (Legendary Comsic)
(Shiny is Winter outfit)
(Four Placement)
-Pem (Mythic Water)
(Shiny is Winter Maid Uniform or Arc 7 Rem)
(Four Placement)
-Pam (Mythic to Sercet Nature)
(Shiny is Arc 6 Ram)
(Two Placement)
-Milia (Mythic Water)
(Shiny is pajamas? The pink dress idrk)
(Three Placement)
-Ros-chi (Legendary Fire)
(Shiny is just a actual clown costume)
(Four Placement)
-Baru (Sercet Curse)
(Shiny is Natsumi)
(One Placement)
ok but ram already has an instance of her going all out which would be with cor leonis
if they did make her a separate unit they should just use that instead of making shit up
I haven't seen much of arc 6 in the novel so I didn't know much, I more or so wanted a flashy move for her
yea gng roswaal legendary aint gon cut it whole list of mid 💔
one of the strongest people in lugunica n you think he should be leg
He's a side character
ok so legendary reinhardt
I get he's important to the plot but I also don't think there should be too many mythics
Barely any legendaries are added
Baru requires the unit “Beako” or evolve material,“Envy Factor” to evolve.
Pam requires "Lost Pink Horn" to evolve
Milia requires “Gem Necklace” to evolve.
Ottee requires “Burnt Book of Truth” to evolve.
Rainhard requires “Letter from Wilhelmet” to evolve.
Pem requires “Polished Mace” to evolve.
Baru --- Baru (Strategist)
(Shiny Skin) Natsumi — Natsumi (Pem’s Hero)
Pem — Pem (Mace)
Pam — Pam (Oni God)
Milia — Milia (Ice Witch)
(Shiny Skin) Tella — Tella (Envy)
Otter — Otter (Book of Truth)
I have Reinhardt in the list too but just as a exclusive in a raid
roswaal is one of the strongest magic users in rezero maybe go watch/read the series
insane
I do???
Huh
I rewatched the show several times I know how powerful roswaal is gang
I just don't think roswaal has a whole lot that can be added as a mythic because people know less of ros-chi and more of the, yk??? Actual main characters?
roswaal was a huge character in s1 and s2 people def know him
I mean he can definitely be customized since he has the blessing to wield all 6 affinities
i do like how u put natsumi as subarus shiny
Does he have any sort of plot development besides after season 2
cant believe they fumbled n put the tiktok edit victim as his shiny
Gluttony baru is garbo
Out of ANY if story baru
They picked the ass one
Even pride would of been better
I can see ros-chi being a possible mythic or sercet it's mostly just I didn't want to write everything
I only ever did ram and baru
I still think ram getting her horn back within vanguards is a better idea
Being able to see what she can ACTUALLY do with her blessing of the Oni god seems alot more interesting, and thus gives room for creativity
Which i ended up doing a massive fist that slams down onto the map as a nuke
idk i think her putting up a king von perfomance against lye is more interesting
esp since u could have a special passive buffing her in some way if near subaru
I gotta read arc 6 ngl, I have the first 3 books of arc 5 from months ago and I didn't touch that shit and then regretted it
That special passive buffing her if she's near Baru tho is cool
If anything, all of the rezero units get more out of subarus buffs when near him
theres also witch cult translations if you'd rather read on the web
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What u think of these
Naw bro what
Gluttony is not it bro
gluttony subaru without shaula 💔
Out of any of the IF barus they picked one of the more boring ones
Dude
js use his arc 6 fit or natsumi
Without shaula he's mid
😭
Fact checked by true lugunican patriots
OD BLESS LUNGICA AND OD BLESS REINHARD!!
wait he's spelled Od right
I might be dumb
And yet pride better ngl
He not
Not even ragebait he has alot more better moments
Subaru is literally just johan liebert
Greed is cool but mid but prides good
In gluttony
They should lowkey just
Make non shiny baru
Natsumi
And then make shiny his normal
Not wrong
And then everyone will deshiny hik
Point stands he needed his arc 6 fit
He looks hella stale in his shiny with that shirt
Whatever it is
More then gluttony
My avatar
My goat and his 16 pixel face
Lmao
On everybody soul make rbd actually do shit
Yea in favor of the devs just giving him 20% dmg buff instead of 10% after rbd
Lazy bummery
How the fuck did one of devs, a Subaru fan, let this happen
Reid better not get this treatment in 9 years when he gets animated and they add him
This might actually just be more disrespectful then Subaru watching rem get twisted around by geuse
(game aint lasting 9 months)
Game won't last 6
Wait u havent read arc 6?
nah just havent got time
i literally read more fanfics of rezero longer then several of rezeros arcs combined
its bad
god forbid i read the source material
only cool thing that was really done was emilia
i think her passives and the way shes done makes her actually worth getting her
might sound biased though since i have her monarched
but even when shes a 4 placement and i have her monarch, shes actually not bad
if anything she nearly outdpses my monarch juilus
my only monarch is gilga i just nuke the enemies
cinema
At this point, bring a dev in here or something so they can explain why sabaru's ability is the way it is.
Me personally- I don't care. I'm not a ReZero fan and Subaru can stay as is. BUT I would like some dev insight as to why he was created this way, and why he has no ability animation. The latter is just criminal
I really shouldnt have to explain this but not every ability can be canonically accurate to the character, the unit is now good , i dont know what the complaint is
There was like 9 other units added , not every character can have some vangaurd quality character animations and what not
its simply just complaints that your favourite character wasnt created exactly how you wanted him , with a decked out and op kit judging by the original suggestion , and your mad about it. fair enough, you can have an opinion, but stop calling everyone weird who disagrees.'
would have loved to see a return by death animation tho😔
🤷♂️
The complain is that the unit is badly designed
Like if we got someone with 40k dps with full aoe would he be good?
Ofc he would
But would the design be good?
Most likely not
how is it badly designed
“+x% of y when z happen” ahh units
Its like 80% of the units ingame
huh
something happening when a condition is met does not mean its badly designed lmfao
"When the units attacks, it does damage"
is that badly designed?
Bad design is units that get a flat increase in damage with no condition needed as a passive
90% of abilities ingame increase either: range or damage or decrease spa when a certain condition is met
We dont want more stat increases
We want actual unique mechanics
Is that too much to ask for?
Come up with 3 unique mechanics right now
that dont increase stats
and dont need a condition to be met
You sure you want to go that route?
That sounds stupid any mechanic should need a condition
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I can make up 3 for subaru with condition
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Crazy how a tester cant read
And js be spamming questions marks like “GOTCHA!”
I did not
👍
You cant read
Your right
I didnt even say conditions were bad
I said the overly inflated number of passives that are stat increases was bad
How can you be a tester and not understand the concept of bad gameplay design
common complaint ive seen in this thread is that they dont like the fact that return by death aint a rewind, ts or decay ability cause it aint very accurate to the source material
yes
i understand your favourite unit isnt giga op like you want him to be , but the reality is not every unit can be op
They dont want him to be giga op, jus more accurate to source lol
Av was supposed to be the innovator
well av subaru is definaly different then every other td subaru fs...
What games even have subaru other then awtd? You probably more knowledgeable then me
astd, Awtd
those are like the only ones i know
they both rewind
if i remember correctly
and awtd applies slow
I see i see
"Op kit"
We being fr now
Aizen ik u dumb but u never struck me as this dumb
At least try to read
Even so look at ragna, that guys insane (with buff setup of course) but he aint even a vanguard
Almost 50k dps no myth trait
Sometimes people dont deserve tester
Dude
your original suggestion
suggested a timestop, decay and some other shit
also can you stop being an ad hominem one trick
thanks
so you didnt read
.5 timestop as part of a cinematic
Whats wrong with decay?
You keep calling it op
When ragna can do 300k
Like what
Genuinely what the fuck are you on
balances out with his horrid range and small aoe
How about you start giving me good points
this entire thread is literalyl just rezero fans wanting their favourite character to be op
Never said i wanted him to be op
genuinly what does throwing insults at others achieve tho
Well for 3 unique abilities:
return by death: upon use sell the user and every enemies on the map are sent back to spawn
5 mins global cd
Cor leonis: every units in the users range can not be inflicted with status ailments but the user recieve 3x the effect of said statuses
Future recollection: after return be death is activated, units on the map are immune to status ailment for another 30 seconds
AWTD achieves perfect balance with a guy who can give the base a rewind
Took a while cuz im doing smth rn
Bros acting like giving a little bit of a good kit to subaru is bad
And also the fact that he has no interesting vfx to his unit is also disrespectful
Worse than rin
huh
Hes only better than rin in infinite mode
That does NOT make for good gameplay design
^
Some devs gotta fire this tester atp
Damage buffer is some child's idea of creative
Ok im done replying as its getting tiring
Good? Yes, creative? No
Rin costs nothing to use, shes better than subaru in mid-late game, subaru requires upgrades to become better than rin, and the only time it suffices to use him is in infinite when you make enough money to focus upgrades on him
Early game buffs mean absolutely nothing
“Im starting to lose the argument so im out” ahh
Jesus christ its not complicated
He aint bad but he just aint decent either, and its the point that he buffs himself by 50% with rbd 😭 what does he need to be doing that for when he does 2k dps max
No
i have stated my points
every time i do its disregarded
so i will stop replyign
Also i made 3 abilities go figure
"Not every can be canonically accurate" YES THEY FUCKING CAN
This is a weak ass mentality
yeah i mean
They can be scaled down in power and limited but at least SIMILAR
thats a completely different argument
“B-but the precious devs”
There was like 10 units added this update
Anyway
done replying
and blocking both
BYe
Someone gotta fire this dimwit at some point
😭
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His abilities dont do any debuffs when ALL HIS FUCKING MOVES ARE DEBUFF MOVES
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Return to zero has no animation or vfx or anything to incentivize people to go for this unit over others
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Also his final ability for some reason specifically focuses on his own dmg when hes not a damage unit and does shit dmg. There is no justification for this
No use, he blocked us
Peak mentallity
Bet his insecure ahh gonn see that
well his ability also gives a higher buff
“Im a tester how could i ever be wrong” ahh
and he said the he got no special animations cause he aint a vangaurd unit
🤷🏻
which is why awtd is the goat
Ngl if he has all 3 of those that would be too OP. Would just have to choose one.
Well thats fine too
Thats kind of like "oh you got robbed? Sorry heres this Kroger coupon"
Its just irrelevant
Esp for a special ability on a Secret unit
just make return by death rewind, its the most simple solution it can NOT be that op
It can never be that op
Give it 6 min global cd
Or just give it 1 time use rewind
idk you can ask another dev on the stage or smth
if subaru ability would ever get special animations ever
Stage is like a wasteland atp
or will it be a trend to not have special animations for non vanguards units
None of the units there are ever going to get added
last stage was a mess
barley any important questions answered
“Woo hoo guys we solved the issues with the game”
Then barely anything changes
well this update was definatly a step towards teh right direction...
Frankly i dont care anymore
bump
some actually unique passives
Im gonn go back to battle cats
i got nothing else to do in awtd anymore
FGO update either next or one after
Plus getting seamless
i see this as doing too much honestly
like i get they made him a pretty bad unit but ranting about it for weeks is just sum u don't need in your life
Most people sees this as the bare minimum
Anyone in this thread and anyone with common sense
So you think his current passives are well-designed?
no?
well not every person playing the game is gonna be on the discord
Genuine question
Well there you have your answer
i just don't think anyone should invest this much time on a charachter in a video game
what are you on about
Glad we got common sense going
Its really not that much effort
idk but hes subaru tho
You are js making a big deal out of it
this ones demented
Like messaging here aint like doing some 9-5
im not making a strong point
just handing out some sense
it's not healthy
Then proceed to hand me a pile of shit
Crazy work
i drc im just here to see others opinions
the objective opinion is that it should be changed and that's really it
seems that devs are very hesistant on changing subaru
definentely not worth pouring hours into arguing about how this charachter was done dirty to convince some devs with deaf ears
other then his extra support on his manual
thats true
To you yeah, and i personally dont, just check in from Time to time, but if someone likes a character or feels they have been done dirty they have a right to complain
im like one of the biggest re zero fans you'll meet lmao, bummed out for sure and i did leave my remarks on this thread aswell, but i don't see a point in repeating urself like a broken toy with a sound queue
And thats fine thats your opinion, some people might just want to talk to other people who share the same sentiment as them and also feel as if they were robbed of a decent unit, no harm in that? You dont have to stay here, simple to just unfollow thread after seeing they probably aren’t going to change anything but these people dont want to because they probably hope on the extremely chance a dev sees this and has a change of heart something might change
i think this person MIGHT have misunderstood me
tiktok and reels done brain fried everyone
We almost at 200
200 is crazy for a suggestion in this server in less than a week
That already speaks volumes about how people feel about subaru
bump
this doesnt really mean anything. activity in this server is down immensely. this suggestion for 100 upvotes in like 1-2 days after the update. most suggestions dont make it past 100 in weeks
so i think it does mean something that this many upvotes were given to change subaru's special ability
also a lot of players are simply incompetent or children
so they dont care
they'll lick up slop off the floor like pigs
i ❤️ cherry picking
?
also most subaru fans would disagree with you here, so its really unfounded to call yourself the biggest subaru fan
theres a handful of a few thousand that are obsessed
i said im a fan not a degenerete
weak
either way you seem to ignore my main point
to put it way bluntly
im merely flipping them off by getting more upvotes
im making a point which putting this much time into something like this isn't healthy
few arguments a day 💔
👍
Do they think we argue in this thread 24/7 or smth 😭
prob
dude lowk
i had it worse
i was literally hyped for seven this update
atleast you can get your unit and use it without being a fucking leech 😭
atleast you can obtain bro in the first place
How do you even get seven
his
shadow assassin form is a shiny
they actually spat on my face with that bro
Better grind up ig
😭😭😭
Is his cosmetic cool atleast…
think so
he has his thousand dagger sword
for the cosemtic
but still
i dont drop cash on this game i cant get lb
nor get a shiny on him
Aint no way they make the GOAT a filthy lb unit💔
IM SO FUCKING MAD BRO
The devs are so fraudulent its crazy
GOD FORBID WE GET SOMEONE COOL
WE GET FUCKING KAREM INSTEAD
WHO THE FUCK ASKED FOR HIM
FR 😭
I aint gonn lie id take a scissor seven upd over this sloppy garbage anytime of the week
exclusive banner is js ass
Gotta respect the "go big or go home" mentality. He shouldnt be put in any game if he not gonna be done right. I can get behind that
Ive spent the last 5 mins thinking about what to say before i realize that there are no words in the English language that can describe how moronic that sounds.
Holy yappatron
😭
That was one sentence 😭💔
yo we 1 away
like the series, subaru is buns like re zero
man i might be crashing out but i think the drop rates from the t10 portals is messed up
i swear i farmed more than 9 hours today and didn't get a single gift box
i might just give up
you know nobody is taking you seriously right
Top Tier ragebait almost got me
🙌
Bump
fbi gone? dang
Yeah- they’re gone, can’t believe it.
Though I didn’t always agree with his takes and opinions (like this thread in particular), it’s gonna be a lot less entertaining without them around…
i did not like bro but like
did he deadass leave over subaru being not what he wanted
you cannot care about a character so much
ig he got bullied and baited alot too
idk
Were did bro go😭 😭 😭
Bro took everything personally and starting insulting everyone
this is ingrained in my brain its so funny
this shit made me question if FBI was just the world's greatest baiter or not
Nah he seems genuine. There's a lot of pretentious douchebags out there who look way too deep into media
I'll never forget how he got trolled by common roles for liking Re:Zero
Tbf if a restaurant make your fav food like sloppily-put-together you’d be stupid not to leave
Especially if its something so simple that even a child could make
bad analogy
this is like leaving a restaurant over not giving you napkins or sum
its not that deep to quit over this
Geniunely be thankful that this unit has damage, he already buffs ontop of having some damage like 20k x 3 is not bad considering hes a buffer unit, if u get monarch then hes even better than hakura rin fr, so i dont see why the complaints
wtf happened to FBI
It is quite literally the same
If a restaurant serves you bad food then you wouldnt want to eat there would you?
If a game is badly designed then you wouldnt want to play it
It is quite literally the same
“Be thankful that the devs’ design of a character is unfaithful and quite literally a different character entirely”
God have some self respect
The devs literally treat the community like its 1984
How yall keep slurping this slop up
Is crazy to me
Ignored the thing I said below
1 unit isn't nearly as big of an issue as a game being badly designed
Not like the whole update went to shit cuz Subaru isn't accurate to the source
If that's the case than why add any LB units they're all bad game design cuz they do the bare minimum to adapt the unit
I alr mentioned seven literally doing nothing to be good or usable
And that was my most hyped unit this update
Are you perhaps saying this update was good
Cuz if you do then idk what to say
Raise your standard ig
Have a lil bit of self respect
I don't care past one minute of my reading update log cuz 1 unit is like the 2% of the update why would I call the game dogshit over that
What was wrong w this update besides no vanguard pity
Portal grind is p chill and ragna isn't the hardest thing to get
Biggest av devs’ defender right here 💔
Dude I shit on this game half the time
I'm not gonna hate if there isn't smth to hate
Clearly doesnt seems like it
This update was a direct improvement to dandadan event with some nice changes and unit additions
I shit on ReZero ever since it came out yet somehow im still here
Dandadan was a low bar lets be fr
I think the issue w this update are models and vanguard pity
That upd was so bad anything couldve been better
Portal grind is good units are all good
There is no pity?
We didn't get an SBR update where there was 1 good unit and it was a 1% drop
There isn't
It sucks but they refuse to add it
That's my major complaint
Oh i thought you said there was
No there isn't
There are some aspects of this game that i considers good
But like those only take up 10-20%
Yeah but what's Ur issue w this update that's what I'm talking abt
Also this still
Repetitive gameplay(though it is unavoidable), buggy release with like 3-4 major bugs, most characters are pretty much filler and the horrendous banner system for the main event
Well lb units are collectible kinda like cool pokemon cards
I love the lb units
I js hate vanguard and secrets
And yes i do have them except for gogeta
I dont think an unit that is meta-relevant should be 1/20k and limited
what
ok
repetitive i agree
portals are repetitive by nature
buggy release i agree but i don't expect more from the devs atp
i don't think the characters are fillers
rem is good emilia is good fubuki is good
karem fucking sucks but they can't all be winners
gogeta is meta (unforch)
ragna is a monarch included unit so he is worth grinding for ppl with bad trait luck
idk i think the units are rly good esp compared to dandadan event
okarun sucks pweeny has 1 use momo is an update 0 character
only diavolo is worth getting and grinding the event currency is fucking garbage
also the banners actually cycled idk whats the issue atp
Rem is like one of the most basic dps you can think of
yeah but its effective
Karem was pretty unique with frostburn
you got ineffective dpses like valentine then you got effective ones like rem
adding a niche that doesn't even have the right units to fill the role is garbage
Ragna and gogeta is pretty good
add a full aoe burn first before making burn archetype a thing
cuz it won't work otherwise
But it is paving the way for future units
Kinda like investing
zion did the same shit and he got powercrept and we don't even have the road paves
d
release the archetype then build it from there
don't js throw shit on the wall till it sticks 5 updates later where powercreep has made the units garbage
Thats kinda how you make units that isnt just dps buff, effects or plain dps
Like throw a lot of things together to make it sound interesting then you build from there
no bro you don't js try to make burn only a strategy without actually creating a proper trigger
you add a gun to the game but you don't add the bullets
whats the point
Is burn still irrelevant?
yes
Damn thats bad
cuz the units are powercrept and you can't trigger burn passives for zion or karem
Its been around since the beginning how is it still garbage
cuz they dont add a burn full aoe
These devs are smth else man 😭
Jogo technically is one
for 15 seconds on a 60 second cd
also being 4 placement and 70+ cost is brutal bro
Its kinda unfortunate how the other types of dmg just got shafted
monarch locked while actively getting fucked
Canon jogo treatment
also his ability is global cd
more reason why he is monarch locked
also jogo could've been full aoe
idk how they look at max meteor and make it a worse circle than subaru
Idk how they look at subaru and make him a dps buff worse than haruka prebuff
Well i do like what they did with toji and gil
idk bro i dropped a fucking essay i think subaru is good im not gonna argue on it again
unfaithful is like another argument u can say wtv
but i think he is a p good unit
Well i think hes good too, just not well designed
toji is cool gil passive is cool only on solo
otherwise in squads he is always walking around with -30% damage
sucks to suck
This game got hella potential on release idk how it fell off so hard
Like the last 3 upds was not it vro..
Except for gil, love that guy
dk i think they're doing well
if you want a game heavily reliant on skill and loadouts then you shouldn't expect that from a game with traits
that js kills any strategy other than for whales to do inf castle floor 9 billion
if astd x drops without traits they could cook smth
Guess i just expected too much
womp womp, the 5 active watchers of that anime have so see an inacurate representation of a character
who
why is he banned
I will continue his legacy till he's unbanned
THEY WILL NOT SILENCE US
nvm
seems it was valid
cant threaten unemployed ppl online
Such a killjoy 💔
God forbid people having hobbies
Dude was toxic ash, needs to go touch grass and get off dc they did him a favour
acting like such an intellect and then not following a rule every family friendly server has is crazy tho
also this isn't 1984 they fucking rejected the suggestion
they didn't even ignore it they js didn't agree
also the wall of text isn't even a problem caused by them its a problem caused by there being hundreds of chatters
its also the fact that he even spammed a wall of text in the first place instead of js typing a message
This should've been enough to get him banned, the mods are very lenient tbh
yeah no dawg he is stupid
im surprized he had such a crashout tho youd think hed know better than to call someone an ape
"dont insult my favourite anime 👶 🍼 "
Snowflakes are abysmal to get and the map variety on portals is lacking
Propaganda smh
"I have 11 snowflakes" I don't grind this game all day
Bros the devs best pr team
i dont think maps are the problem rn i think lack of rewards for doing any map other than namek is
doing spider forest should be more of a reward and the maps should scale to that
they should've had pity or be craftable yeah but idk i wanted to evo like 3 units and one of them were ragna i never lacked snowflakes
I personally don't care about playing Namek all day. Maybe add in Double Dungeon or the Shibuya Subway map into the rotation?
that was fbi not me
Nah you kinda is the one carrying the devs pr rn
i dont see how im being a pr team when death threats are an offense in a server full of 12 year olds
its literally every roblox server ever
this ain't bias in any way its like
objective
idk the grind sucks if you dont do namek cuz namek is the easiest
God forbid people have hobbies 😔
???
Yeah, however I was getting at it being extremely repetitive
like ig you can js make every other map as easy as namek but then its js a cosmetic
I js want the scenery to change
Namek reskin?
nah give us more maps to play on for portal grind
Lets make the water on namek cyan and the grass white
Then call it a day
I mean with the quality of updates recently id be surprised if they would even do that
Also what did the devs answered during the qna stage
Did they swept all the relevant questions under the rug like the first time?
i didnt stay up for the whole thing didn't they post it yet
idk i don't have any questions cuz my questions would boil down to mob psycho update when and monarch pity (got answered)
Wasnt monarch pity 2.5k on 1 unit?
oh mb
Basically created for the ultra wealthy
not monarch pity
vanguard pity
no monarch pity doesn't exist
2.5k on one unit would basically js make it really likely
So it aint coming?
Im ngl you are the first one without any relations to the dev team that actually somewhat enjoyed this upd
Like unironically
Not counting those cc ofc they gotta get that bag
I enjoyed the update ngl
Was a nice change of pace
Deadass?
Yes I thought it was a good update overall
Elaborate on that
And the most fun in a while
Genuine question
A mode were me and my friends can chill, at first portals were challenging which was fun
Is that the dopamine rush talking?
Until I got newer units and skins which made it really easy
Don’t got Gogeta
Wasnt half of them impossible on release
Well Sbr was
Most were doable
