2 Occult Banner Bugs

[keen orbit]

Pity sometimes doesn't reset when getting an exclusives, and mythics are a 0.1% now I assume, they should be a 1% but each of them are 2.5% resulting in needing to win a 10% twice in a row making it a 0.1%, I can say this isn't a visual bug because I have been getting way more exclusives and secrets than mythics, in fact in the last 120k I used I have gotten like 6 exclusives and only 1 mythic
Also am not sure if the miku one is a bug but she's now a 10% while momo and pweeny are 20% okuran 50% since you guys haven't announced any of this.(I understand this one now but yall should've kept it the way it is now that it's basically became the actual banner and people got used to it)

also if the miku one is a bug and its real not visual please fix it quick so her value doesn't get destroyed

I got 3 mikus before 2.0 and I was happy about that because she'll be worth a lot when trading comes around but if this continues then she'll be worth nothing

[keen orbit]

I've also got another person's say in the mythic bug, they also haven't been getting mythics often so yeah I think we can say that the mythic one is a real bug

bump

[lofty forge]

miku has always been 10%

[keen orbit]

No?

She's been 2.7%

[willow cobalt]

icl occult banner is messed up

I've got no mythic skin in my last 100k

I don't get the issue tho

[keen orbit]

its supposed to be a 1% 25% each skin

before 2.0 you would get one every like 30 pulls or smth

it was 2x more common than exclusives/secrets

[willow cobalt]

bro 😭

[keen orbit]

which is what its supposed to be

[willow cobalt]

yea i get it now

[keen orbit]

its supposed to be 25% 25% 25% 25% not 2.5% 2.5% 2.5% 2.5%

[lofty forge]

they buffed her odds after complaints from the community

[keen orbit]

never mentioned it + fair to assume its a bug because there's other bugs with the banner + its weird to just change the rates of a 1.5 update 3 updates later

You said "always been 10%" no she became 10% after the update, she's always been 2.7 not 10

if they were going to change the chances they should've done it way sooner than now, mow one is going to grind DDD anyways because there's gonna be a new gamemode and a new banner

its also kind of just not fair for people who had miku before since her value got destroyed if it did actually turn into a 10%

The only reason people were complaining because they were too lazy to even do some DDD runs, they just expect all units to be easily obtained

Those are the same people that say that nothing is going to have value after trading comes out because everything is too easy to get

people just want something to complain about, if the chance is high then they're gonna complain about how bad the value is, and if the value is too low they're gonna complain about how hard it is to get (its not even hard to get at 2.7%, people were just lazy, making her 10% would just kill her)

and at the end instead of blaming themselves and realizing they were the reasons either of those happened they blame the game its soo stupid

sorry for yapping allat, that was only for if it wasn't a bug

I assume its a bug but it might not be

[lofty forge]

wasnt a recent change and they did say something about it

[keen orbit]

Where?
2.0 is recent

[lofty forge]

before 2.0

[keen orbit]

you got proof?

everyone was mentioning it at the start of 2.0

no one said anything about it beefore

well except this guy

[lofty forge]

i remember pyseph talking about changing occult banner odds

[keen orbit]

even if that was true, it was never mentioned anywhere that the odds actually changed

pyseph talking about something isn't enough to conclude that it is happening

he also jsut talked about it, never confirmed it was being added

[lofty forge]

and miku has no value that could be destroyed

[keen orbit]

?

[lofty forge]

trading hasnt been implemented yet

[keen orbit]

It will be added, when it will be added miku would've been high valued

you know what am talking about

her value will just be another okarun

only things that had value were broly diavolo haruka and miku

now that miku became just a normal exclusive its only 3

devs need to understand that they don't have to do everything their community tells them, because most of the time they're just unreasonable, the community doesn't know what's good and bad for the game, they just think about things directly without taking much into consideration

this is an example, miku being 2.7% was a good thing, not too rare to the point where she was a diavolo level rarity but also pretty rare to the point people to have to spend a good amount of time to get her and still be high valued

[lofty forge]

well at one point miku was 25%

[keen orbit]

but nah the community just wants to get things instantly and easily and when trading comes out they'll be wondering why nothing has value

[keen orbit]

that was a visual bug I think

it was quickly fixed

never intended to happen

[lofty forge]

that was on release though

[keen orbit]

yeah that one was accidental

[lofty forge]

and the complaint was that people werent getting okarun

so they made okarun middle 50%

when realistically the units should all be equal odds

[keen orbit]

No it was a bug

I think it was a bug, am not completely sure but it was fixed too quickly for people to even say that they couldn't get okarun etc

[lofty forge]

ur quick to assume it was a bug, and not community requested

[keen orbit]

25% is a very high chance

[lofty forge]

i remember the minor backlash

[keen orbit]

what they did wouldn't have fixed anything because pweeny and momo were still a 25% ish chance

[lofty forge]

originally every exclusive had the same rarity which is how I believe they wanted it to be

but majority wanted okarun as opposed to the other units so they changed it to work like the tegular banner

[keen orbit]

if that was actually true

It would've been a stupid move, the update just released, 25% is still a very high chance, they were going to get okarun. Also why would they change it to the point where miku was 2.7%?

people were complaining about okarun being a low chance (he wasn't even a low chance), not about miku being a high chance

[lofty forge]

why would people complain about the rarity of a skin

it's only u

[keen orbit]

people complaining about her rarity was your entire point bro

[lofty forge]

okaruns rarity

which opted the banners to change

[lofty forge]

to the 50 25 25

which leaves the remaining 10%

to miku

idk where 2.7% was even a thing

[keen orbit]

50 + 25 +25 + 10?

[lofty forge]

or how that worked

20 20*

default banner odds

idk how that ended up with miku having 2.7%

but that was definitely the visual bug

[keen orbit]

if there was complaints it would've been very minor from a low amount of people, there's no way people were that excited for okarun

why would they change the entire odds of the banner just for a few people

[keen orbit]

???

it WAS 2.7%

people weren't getting her

it was always 2.7%

until now which am not sure if the 10% is a visual bug or a real bug or an actual change

2.7% wasn't visual

[lofty forge]

but what were the odds of the other units

if she was 2.7%

[keen orbit]

let me check rq

[lofty forge]

when the other units were specifically changed to resemble banner rarities

which just so happens to leave a 10% gap for the only other exclusive being miku

[keen orbit]

okarun was a 54%

I forgot the res tbut they weren't even numbers, they were properly sorted to match the chances of diavolo and miku

[lofty forge]

that supports ur claim

there's no evidence that wasnt a visual error

the fact that it is how it is right now is a product of them changing how the banners calculated mythic chance

they changed it because whenever they would add more mythics the middle and side banner units would slowly decrease in odds

eventually middle units ended up being 40% from 50%

and that update

happened update 2

which also proabbly fixed how the occult banner worked

displaying the true odds

as miku being 10%

[keen orbit]

yeah it was

ask anyone

if miku was a 10% she would've been way more common

no one would've gotten it

they would've also fixed it way sooner

[keen orbit]

I don't understand this sentence

[keen orbit]

what does that have to do with DDD banner

I can confirm that it was 2.7, you can ask anyone who spent a lot of wisps

[lofty forge]

how many okaruns do you have comparatively

[keen orbit]

I have around 70 okaruns and 3 mikus

reastically I'd have a 1-5 ratio

you could call me unlucky but you can ask everyone else

miku was never a 10%

[lofty forge]

lol

if miku was intended to be a 2.7% chance she would be 1/7400 drop

[keen orbit]

yeah but wisps are easy as hell to get

[lofty forge]

and ur own experience doesnt reflect these odds

[keen orbit]

I just told you you can ask anyone else

[lofty forge]

ur an 'afk grinder'

[keen orbit]

its easy to afk grind

[lofty forge]

1/7400 is 1/3rd of diavolos rarity, 100% a visual bug

[keen orbit]

if you don't have the units required to afk farm then you're not at end game yet and you should be doing other stuff instead

[keen orbit]

it wasn't a visual bug

[lofty forge]

because banners themselves were changed fundamentally

[keen orbit]

she WAS 1/3rd of diavolo's rarity

[lofty forge]

no u literally just m@@cro

[keen orbit]

that's what afk farming means

[lofty forge]

displayed*

never actually was probability wise

[keen orbit]

I legit have 3 mikus and 1 diavolo

that's accurate

you can ask ANYONE

she was always a 2,7%

Go ask in general

or anywhere else in fact

everyone will tell you that miku is that rare

[lofty forge]

i'm using calculated probability to reach my answer, why would i ask a general full of unlucky m@@croers

[keen orbit]

why would you just come up with your own conclusion. It's no coincidence that many people only got miku after a lot of wisps

[lofty forge]

i agree that she may have been 2.7% but it was unintentional due to the way banners were miscoded

[keen orbit]

they would've fixed it way before if it was actually a visual bug to

[keen orbit]

they wouldn't take that long to fix it though

its been like 2 months since the update

[lofty forge]

they fixed it in 2.0

which is when it changed

to 10%

[keen orbit]

yeah 2.0

They had 1.5 and 1.75 to fix it

[lofty forge]

and yes they would take that long to fix it

because it effected main banner aswell

[keen orbit]

no they wouldn't

they also would've said that they fixed the bug if they did

they didn't say anything

they never said that this was a bug

[lofty forge]

i personally was the one who made the suggestion to fix it and i had 150+ reactions for 2 months before they fixed it

[lofty forge]

but they did

[keen orbit]

you can't just assume its a bug

[lofty forge]

read the patchnotes for 2.0

[keen orbit]

wait

this was the only mention of bug fixes

[lofty forge]

not true

the "improvements" category is literally the list of bug fixed

[keen orbit]

?

[lofty forge]

well its actually in balancing

for some reason

[keen orbit]

and for this, how does it affect DDD

[lofty forge]

because its a summon banner

[keen orbit]

yeah but

why would miku be 2.7%

[lofty forge]

she wouldnt

she would be 10%

[keen orbit]

because she's an offer banner?

[lofty forge]

witht the new logic

[keen orbit]

off*

[lofty forge]

hence why the mythic skins also are broken rn

[keen orbit]

oh I get it

[lofty forge]

because none of them are center banner or side banner

but there's four of them

so they're spliting the "10%" chance allocated to off banner units

[keen orbit]

but still 2.7% was way better than 10% and the people who summoned before it basically got scammed

[lofty forge]

yeah but it was simply just unintentional

[keen orbit]

they treated it like a normal banner

Middle gets what default banner gets
momo and pweeny would just count as sides

And miku would count as an off banner

unintentional but it should've stayed how it was imo

since people already got used to it

and thought these were the final chances

[lofty forge]

ye im talking about thr mythic skins in that sentence though

hence why they're all 2.5%

because they're all off banner splitting the 10%

[keen orbit]

they aren't supposed to be like that though right

[lofty forge]

they arent

just a byproduct of the banner changes

[keen orbit]

why would they not add up to 100%

if they wanted to make it like that they would've made mythics 0.1% and the actual skins 25% 25% 25% 25%

[lofty forge]

because they're all considered off banner units

but they shouldnt be

[keen orbit]

yeah

that's what am trying to say

[lofty forge]

they should be 25% x 4

[keen orbit]

its a bug

and its not visual

[lofty forge]

yh ofc im just telling u why its happening

[keen orbit]

let me edit the description then wait

[lofty forge]

mhm

[odd oracle]

I think the reason why this is occurring is because if you look at the normal banner they changed it because people were complaining about lowered mythic odds as more mythics get added, so that messed up smth in occult banner

[lofty forge]

really?

[lofty forge]

^

[keen orbit]

2 Occult Banner Bugs

[barren juniper]

Is miku actually 10%? Ive pulled like 80 some okaruns since the change and atleast 12 of both pweeny and momo and I still dont have her

[raven flame]

Dont tell me diavolo rate is also messed up

Cuz ive been grinding since the occult update still no diavolo

[barren juniper]

Ive been grinding since it dropped for miku and still nothing

[odd oracle]

i somehow got a shiny momo before miky

[willow cobalt]

The rates are fucked dimensionally

[raven flame]

Ill trade u one of my 20 mikus

[odd oracle]

I pray they add trading next update

[lofty forge]

2 updates from now

( the update after 3.0)

[odd oracle]

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