Actually Making the units have a decent damage jump

[elfin gale]

changing a damage number isnt boring but different passives and abillities aren??

theres no what i just read is real

isnt*

[golden ember]

i aint saying that but passives over and over again is just boring

[elfin gale]

passives are literally what make or break a unit

vegeta litearlly wouldnt be vegeta without his passive

[golden ember]

yes i understand that but imaging having the same passives and abiltys for the past 3 updates

like seeing some stuff jump up to 60K dmg would be cool

not everything should be passives

or like high dmg weak passive

or amazing passive weak dmg

[elfin gale]

passives should def be focused on more than damage

if anything you want cooler passives to make stratergies more fun to play around with

[golden ember]

yea but its kinda boring watching my units chill at 45K dmg for the past 3 updates yes passives are cool and all but like i want some dmg in there also

[river dust]

Every major upd there's a decent jump in dmg wdym

[elfin gale]

not higher damage numbers to triavialize the game even mrore

[golden ember]

barley

its like 5K

and thats nothing

[river dust]

Do you want ur units to be outdated in a few weeks?

[elfin gale]

???

bro

like wtf

what do you expect the jump to be?

that would quite literally make

any old unit just straight up useless

[golden ember]

like mabye somthing a tad bit stronger like 10-12K

[elfin gale]

DAWG

[river dust]

Thats way too much

[golden ember]

THATS WHY I SAID HIGH DMG WEAK PASSIVE OR LOW DMG AMAZING PASSIVE

[river dust]

Any old units would become useless

[golden ember]

they alr are💔

[river dust]

?_?

[golden ember]

so you want your units to sit at the same dmg for the next 4 updates but have cool passives

[elfin gale]

yes

yes i wouldnt mind that

[golden ember]

thats just so mid i cant explain it'

[golden ember]

stuff from the first update of tthe game already booty

[river dust]

Every major upd there should be like a 6k dmg increase like it is rn

Over 10k would just be some crazy power creep

Most units don't have unique passives that'd make them good if their dps were outdated

[elfin gale]

either way you cant powe have 12k damage increases between updates even if their passives are ass

[golden ember]

yes or even 10K -8k would be awsome im just saying staying around the same dmg for the next 8 updates is why the game is losing players i feel like

[elfin gale]

would litearlly just make units outdated so fast to the point where yuw ill litearlly just tweak out if you even see them on banner

[river dust]

That makes no sense

[elfin gale]

6k more is aorund the same?

and thats def not why the game is losing players

[golden ember]

ehhh its alright but its to little i feel

im getting jumped by both of yall 😭

[river dust]

How does that make the game lose players

Not having too much power creep is a GOOD thing

Should be the opposite

Js cuz how the game is that's a terrible idea

Imagine getting a good trait on a good unit js for it to be useless after 2 updates

Or even 1

[elfin gale]

at those rates itd be 1 😭

[river dust]

Depends

If the unit has some passive that gives them some utility

Prolly 2-3

[elfin gale]

only the very very top of the meta would stay

or units like julias

[golden ember]

this was like a late night thought so i didnt put to much time into it to think ngl

[river dust]

Not even

Just units with good passives

[elfin gale]

thats usually units at the very top of the meta

[river dust]

Or abilities

[river dust]

Nah not all

[elfin gale]

whose at the top with bad passives rn??

[river dust]

Sukuna, Toji, Choso, Diego, Diavolo

[river dust]

None

Good passives =/= unique passives

Gojo's passives are good but not really unique

He has a good ability and full aoe though which is why he's still at the top of meta

[elfin gale]

true

[river dust]

Alucard is the only one with great passives and stats

His aoe compensates for his somewhat low dps

[golden ember]

still i stand by my statement

[river dust]

Delete this for your own good

[golden ember]

hell naw

[river dust]

Hell nah

[golden ember]

nuh uh

[elfin gale]

your statement really makes no sense

[river dust]

WE just explained why it aint a good idea

[elfin gale]

from no point of view is it good 😭

[river dust]

In a game like astd it isnt so bad cuz there's not much rng

But this game has A LOT of rng

[golden ember]

already said it was a late night thought that they should 1000% do because the games getting boring with just straight busted passives

[elfin gale]

a passive doesnt have to be busted to be good

[river dust]

How is it boring

[golden ember]

i wanan see a dmg jump like the jjk update i had real fun and nothing could get me off the game when it dropped

[river dust]

What's the difference between units with 30k dmg and enemies with 100k health to units with 300k dmg and units with 1m health

[elfin gale]

i deadass think your on the tower defense genre for the wrong reason

[plush otter]

I'd definitely enjoy a damage jump, but trading it for cool passives would make me frown. Definitely prefer passives > large number

[elfin gale]

you want the game to be easy

[river dust]

Uh

Play als

[golden ember]

yes but you cantt lie all passives for the rest of your life would be boring

[river dust]

Or astd

[golden ember]

already delated all my units in both they mid

[river dust]

But astd x will release soon

[river dust]

Astd is NOT mid

[elfin gale]

roblox players after deleting the proof of their time spent having fun:

for no reason too 😭

[plush otter]

Yeah they're obviously only going to do passives for the rest of the game's lifespan

[golden ember]

no its either that or i was gonna keep playing forever

i had to find a way out somehow

astd i might have my stuff

[elfin gale]

so delete everything you worked hard for?

[golden ember]

idk

[river dust]

But you were having fun?

Why would u do that

[plush otter]

My way out personally was uh just not clicking play anymore

😭

[golden ember]

als was poop i relized like 90% of the way in and i slowly stopped playing

[river dust]

It aint bad

[golden ember]

im addicted to tds💔

[plush otter]

So am I

[river dust]

Delete this suggestion

[elfin gale]

that doesnt mean delete all your work though but thats your decision at the end of the day

[elfin gale]

im being pulled away everyday

genre lowk ass

[plush otter]

zero willpower mfs when they need to wipe their hard work to stop playing a game 💔

[golden ember]

lol

[river dust]

In Roblox yes

[golden ember]

this might be me

[river dust]

Tds is decent tho

[elfin gale]

i played btd games outside roblox they fye

but roblox tds games the anime ones atleast

are such a time drain for no reason

[golden ember]

i shall but now we talking about stuff so later

[river dust]

Not all

[elfin gale]

after playing them all they may have effort put into them but they all feel like they are doing things to suck me dry of time and money

[golden ember]

no way

they blocked

a

a

word

a

a

[elfin gale]

instead of trying to promote having fun

[golden ember]

update was so mid

im not tryna spend 45 mintues for One 10X

[river dust]

"of time" well yeah most Roblox games are grindy

Most games in general

[elfin gale]

you see

everyone says that

but these grinds are not normal bro

[river dust]

They're not all a cash grab

[golden ember]

alright its going bye bye now

[elfin gale]

plese let me know why i had to spend 65 hours

to still not obtain a unit?

a single one

[river dust]

What game

[golden ember]

say goodbye chat

[elfin gale]

THIS game

and a

a

has even worse rates

[golden ember]

oh we can still talk

gulp

[river dust]

A

E

A

A

[elfin gale]

it is literally made to force you to sink time into it

[river dust]

Sucks

Av is a little better

[elfin gale]

they all still fall under the same issue that i felt earlir

[river dust]

Ts didnt happen back in prime astd days 💔

[golden ember]

agreed after being a nerd on it im so bored of it

[elfin gale]

this update tried to solve that with gilgamesh

[river dust]

Yeah ur right

[elfin gale]

but instead it was just too easy

[river dust]

There's too much rng

And a

A

Is too p2w

[elfin gale]

i need some kind of difficult quest/stages that actually reward me with a good unit for making up strats

[elfin gale]

its too oudated for me too

[river dust]

Yeah that too

Doesnt compare to modern atd's

[river dust]

You should play astd frfr

[elfin gale]

anyway hopefully these games turn away from the heavy rng aspects and turn to more skill based methods of stuff

[elfin gale]

i used to back in the OG days

idk if i got that far though

[river dust]

It was peak

[river dust]

Astd X wont have much rng aspects

[elfin gale]

rng aspects arent a problem

[river dust]

Av and douvul a wont tho

[elfin gale]

its when the gambling addicts think things like SOFTY PITY

not even hard

soft pity

shouldnt exist

[river dust]

Yeah

Doubt thatll happen here

[river dust]

This is why astd is so good

If only the game itself wasnt shit

[elfin gale]

even warframe added hard pity 💔

[river dust]

Astd X Will fix that hopefully

[elfin gale]

last hope for this game genre

[river dust]

Idk if it'll have that many players tho

Astd's kinda dead

[elfin gale]

dc abt players as long as its fun

[river dust]

Uh true

It's a shame douvle a is taking so many players

Not even that good compared to Av or astd

And extremely p2w

[elfin gale]

expected when u got games slike blox fruits and jji infinite thriving

and i im max in both those game so i def have the rights to say they both ass

but one has 1 million players the other has 300k

[river dust]

Jji atleast has some decent pvp

And is clearly a polished game not just a cash grab

[elfin gale]

idk about all that

[river dust]

If the grinding was better it'd be pretty good

[elfin gale]

story has level locks with 60 level jumps for no reason

[river dust]

It isnt that hard to lvl up anyways

[elfin gale]

isnt hard but its boring

so why lock the story behind the level locks anyway

[river dust]

Yeah

[elfin gale]

investigations are all the exact same just a different map

[river dust]

I hope Rell Seas kills blox fruitd

[elfin gale]

the bosses on hard difficulties are literally the only decent thing there

[river dust]

Most of its players arent even real

[elfin gale]

idec if it doesnt bro

i just HOPE AND PRAY

it isnt a flop like jji

[river dust]

Rell Seas will be peak

Best game on Roblox trust the rell bros

[river dust]

If they increased the difficulty for the lower lvl bosses it wouldnt be so bad

[elfin gale]

easy is literally

well easy

i mean u can deadass stand up put on a m1 auto clicker and win

[river dust]

U cant

The boss will push u away

[elfin gale]

depends on the boss

[river dust]

Thats about it for low lvl bosses

[elfin gale]

some come towards you

[river dust]

Oh right

[elfin gale]

anyway im gonna go to sleep its late

[river dust]

Gn

[river dust]

Idk if that's true

U should make that a suggestion

[elfin gale]

soft pity?

i did

i got flamed

[river dust]

??

How

There's no way some people genuinely think this much rng is a good thing

[elfin gale]

like i said

gambling addictss

they deadass said