Community Tier Lists

[dusty bramble]

never gonna be good

they js gonna make good burn units powercreep him by the time he gets his utility

😭

it isn't he is very garbage

big damage just to do like one fifth of jogo lol

[uncut locust]

its not shit icl diavolo needs to be higher and the Meta/Borderline meta shi makes no sense jus cuz u think those 3 are somehow way better than the borderline section so they need their own

section

[drifting wedge]

Diavolo would be higher if there were more than 500 people using him.

[uncut locust]

doesnt matter even if there is only 1

hes meta

for LB runs on inf and para

also most time meta for tourneys

and his ability only costs 2.5k more than gojos to get

[drifting wedge]

Leaderboard and tourney is all he’s ever going to be meta in.

He’s not needed

[wispy rivet]

choso above alucard is fucking absurd

[drifting wedge]

If only I can get Alucard

[wispy rivet]

he's only used a support there

so

[drifting wedge]

If he was easier to get, he’d be higher than Choso

[wispy rivet]

Yeah but this is a tier list about meta units

it shouldn't include ease of access

[uncut locust]

he’s mandatory

it doesn’t matter

he IS needed

[subtle finch]

TRASH tier list

remove igris, and tengen

they're both outdated

gyro should go in meta dps..

[drifting wedge]

They're both perfectly viable

[subtle finch]

remove sukuna off the meta dps list
His dps isnt that good anymore

[subtle finch]

no they arent

for event? yes

but in general no

[drifting wedge]

Gyro is too expensive to be in meta DPS

[subtle finch]

d4c should go in good
Only meta with monarch

[dull garden]

?

[ripe stratus]

do assists count as kills toward clones?

[dull garden]

For Valentine?

What

[ripe stratus]

yes vro who else has clones

[dull garden]

I have no idea

I dont have valentine cuz he sucks

[ripe stratus]

im assuming yes since valentine would be stupid weak without it

why is igris at the top of great

hes only good at one thing and thats inf

i guess hes the only curse full aoe

[dull garden]

He's good at everything else and the best of his element

And full aoe

And inmune to stun

Obviously not meta cuz Gojo, Alucard and Choso exist

[dull garden]

That also applies to quite a few units in great/good but arent as good overall as Igris

[ripe stratus]

tournaments are a much more important mode than inf

[dull garden]

Exactly

[ripe stratus]

a tournament meta unit should automatically be weighted higher

[normal bone]

how yo put that thing were i cant put a reaccion ¿?

[dull garden]

And Igris is the best curse unit

[ripe stratus]

fair play

[dull garden]

You got blocked

[normal bone]

ahhh

[dull garden]

Can you please remove the reactions they're kinda annoying

[normal bone]

it have sense

[dull garden]

Do you think I should move Diavolo up?

Like he's definitely above Sukuna idk bout Igris though

[normal bone]

yes but only because you said please

😘

[dull garden]

💀

[dull garden]

@normal bone there is 1 reaction here

[normal bone]

really ¿? i cant see it

i think is only a visual bug, maybe if you want to close and open discord

[dull garden]

Still there

[normal bone]

and now ¿?

[dull garden]

Fixed

[dusty bramble]

No

[dusty bramble]

HE DOESN'T KNOW

HE IS STUPID WEAK

[dusty bramble]

Isn't igris inf bot

[dull garden]

Wym

[dusty bramble]

Is he good outside inf

[dull garden]

Yeah

[dusty bramble]

repost cuz i did like 3 placement changes

[ripe stratus]

not sure about croc

bc youre essentially trading off a 50% slow for 1 less dps

[dull garden]

Should be in S

[ripe stratus]

actually nvm id probably bring him over every unit below him

except sasuke and zion

[dull garden]

Exactly

[dull garden]

Sasuke's debatable but croc>zion

[dusty bramble]

croc is good cuz opportunity cost tm

you spend nothing for a unit that does smth good

[dull garden]

This list is uh not that good ngl

[dusty bramble]

what do u disagree w

[dull garden]

Also that

[dull garden]

All

Except Alucard, Choso and Sasuke

[ripe stratus]

haruka is top 2

[dusty bramble]

even gojo?

[dull garden]

No

I mean yes

He's top 2

[dusty bramble]

idk what else

[ripe stratus]

haruka has way more universal value

[dull garden]

Gojo's bettr

[ripe stratus]

haruka used way more in tournaments

1.18x multiplier on your 4 other units

[dull garden]

Gojo is bgter

[ripe stratus]

is massive

[dull garden]

Begeter

[dusty bramble]

haruka same as croc but better

[dull garden]

Gojo>

[ripe stratus]

gojo is not good until full aoe

[dull garden]

Ngl u shouldnt include supports

[dull garden]

Gojo is better

[ripe stratus]

and even then his aoe is one hit

with the longest spa in the game

[dull garden]

Doesnt mattrr

[dusty bramble]

nah they can get ranked in overall tho

[dull garden]

He's good

[dusty bramble]

farms cant get ranked cuz u always bring them

[ripe stratus]

haruka is better though

[dull garden]

Gojo>

[dusty bramble]

but otherwise croc is still good cuz you bring him instead of a dps you can't even afford to upgrade

yalls are fighting over top 2 vs 3 for roles that don't even collide w eachother holy

[dull garden]

Wait ur right

[dull garden]

Rin has much more usage than Gojo fym

[ripe stratus]

haruka still has more universal value

gojo needs monarch to be universally good

hes decent without it

[dull garden]

💀

[ripe stratus]

but definitely not top 2

[dull garden]

💀

[dusty bramble]

ok nah this is crazy

[dull garden]

💀

💀

[dusty bramble]

gojo early upgrades are not bad

[dull garden]

💀

💀

[dusty bramble]

you js get full aoe that makes u think the previous ones are bad

[dull garden]

💀💀

[dusty bramble]

if you want a unit with bad early upgrades check out valentine

lol

[wispy rivet]

I mean so is song jin woo

does he go there too now?

[ripe stratus]

wahts your take on this

these past 15 messages

[wispy rivet]

Gojo vs haruka in terms of value?

[uncut locust]

dps utility diff is involved aswell

[dusty bramble]

i ranked her top 2 but its lowk irrelevant

[uncut locust]

haruka

[wispy rivet]

It's like 2k more than sukuna or smth dawg

with a much worse aoe

he's only really being used for his ability

[uncut locust]

ye that’s the point

[wispy rivet]

I think he should go in the meta support tier

simple as that

[uncut locust]

gojo is only being used for his domain

withouth it

[wispy rivet]

id say gojo atm

[uncut locust]

he’s not that good dps

[uncut locust]

value wise?

wym

[wispy rivet]

atm

[uncut locust]

how would gojo be rarer

[wispy rivet]

oh value wise

in the trading sense

i thought in terms of the value they provide in a run or smth

[uncut locust]

u can’t even trade gojo

[wispy rivet]

lmao

[ripe stratus]

what why would value mean trading when talking about gojo

[uncut locust]

you’ll never be able too

[ripe stratus]

when gojo is a banner mythic

[uncut locust]

oh

rin is defo top meta

if ur with

multiple ppl

doing the run

[wispy rivet]

his dps is still decent in lb runs

plus

[ripe stratus]

rin provides pretty much 100% of her potential with any trait

[wispy rivet]

gojo would be used in lb runs

regardless

[ripe stratus]

so is haruka

[wispy rivet]

full aoe units have that

[dusty bramble]

nah he is with full aoe

[uncut locust]

his not

look at the dps sheet

[wispy rivet]

yeah but gojo is used by 3/4 people whilst haruka is used by 1 person

[dusty bramble]

yalls gotta stop caring about dps so much and look at total damage

dps is mega irrelevant

[uncut locust]

💀💀💀

LOOOL

[ripe stratus]

meanwhile the value of having that haruka is much higher than having another gojo

[uncut locust]

bro what are you talking about

[wispy rivet]

the dps sheet is stupid because it places vegeta with passive and without passive on 2 different ranks

same for jogo

[uncut locust]

ye that’s to show

how much vegeta does

with his max passive against boss

and withouth

how’s that dumb

[ripe stratus]

it shows ideal dps and realistic dps i think thats fair

[uncut locust]

not against boss i mean single unit

[wispy rivet]

I mean ig

you cant take those placements seriously though

anyway

[uncut locust]

it’s traitless Z+/Z you can

[dusty bramble]

jogo and valentine have way higher dps than gojo both do significantly worse than him in total damage tho

[uncut locust]

the dps sheet is good

[ripe stratus]

lol they definitely are tryna make some of the units seem not as bad as they actually are

[wispy rivet]

what are the units with actually good aoes

[uncut locust]

so what

dps is dmg

bro

[wispy rivet]

that have significantly higher dps than gojo

[dusty bramble]

so dps is irrelevant lol

gojo is a better damage dealer than those 2 dps doesn't determine it

[uncut locust]

@dull garden even you aren’t this slow when it comes to sukuna

[wispy rivet]

tbf it doesn't matter in this circumstance

[dull garden]

He's right

[wispy rivet]

i dont see fv being run in fv

[uncut locust]

🥹

[dull garden]

Gojo ends up damaging much more units

[uncut locust]

nvm

[dull garden]

So he ends up dealing much more dmg

[wispy rivet]

yeah

[dull garden]

It really isnt that hard to understand

[uncut locust]

if gojo didn’t have domain he’d get out performed by igris tengen choso

[dull garden]

That's what makes full aoe units so good

[ripe stratus]

monarch gojo is pretty much a separate unit from non monarch gojo with the power difference

i agree monarch gojo is the best unit in the game probably

but raw value haruka is better

[wispy rivet]

also with a +20% dps buff you're getting in inf from gojo passive his dps is probably a bit better too

[dull garden]

He does have it though

[wispy rivet]

not really

in inf

[dull garden]

That's like removing Choso's bleed

[uncut locust]

the point was diavolo is only used for his ability and the same goes for gojo which makes him n1 full aoe

[wispy rivet]

ethereal gojo would still be used by 3 people

[wispy rivet]

what

[dull garden]

Doesnt matter if a unit is used only for an ability

They're used

[wispy rivet]

yeah

but the difference is

[wispy rivet]

being used by the support player

or the entire team

[dull garden]

Yeah

Idk who u talking abt tho

[wispy rivet]

the unit being used by 3 players is what I'd define as actually meta

gojo

[dull garden]

Who's the other unit

[wispy rivet]

diavolo

[uncut locust]

diavolo meta paragon

[dull garden]

Yeah ur right

[wispy rivet]

is he?

never seen him there

ive not dealt with paragon in general in a long time

[ripe stratus]

that is just false

[dull garden]

He's good at paragon

[uncut locust]

n1 para LB made a tier list and he’s in meta

[dull garden]

And tournament

[uncut locust]

he lit is

😭

u don’t have to max him

u only need his ability

[wispy rivet]

i mean tbf getting his ability is

still rather expensive

[ripe stratus]

why not use diego at that point

[uncut locust]

gojo is 57.5k diavolo is 60k

[wispy rivet]

yeah diego costs like half as much

[wispy rivet]

gojo's expensive too

[dull garden]

This?
(group)

[uncut locust]

cuz diego’s one isn’t better than diavolo a one

pretty sure is that one

[dull garden]

He's on the lower end of S

[ripe stratus]

is that no order or ordered S tier

[dull garden]

Not meta

[ripe stratus]

because alucard at the bottom is crazy

[wispy rivet]

how long is diego's stop again

[uncut locust]

cuz of the farms

[ripe stratus]

like 15 seconds or sum

[uncut locust]

10s or sum

no way it’s 15

[wispy rivet]

because 15 seconds of damage in a burst

[dusty bramble]

they don't fucking say it but its like 12 seconds or smth

[wispy rivet]

it is i think

[dusty bramble]

its not 15

[wispy rivet]

gojo is 10

[uncut locust]

not 15 that’s way too much

[wispy rivet]

i mean 15 would make sense

[dusty bramble]

its like slightly longer than gojo

[wispy rivet]

it's double gojo's cd

[uncut locust]

diavolo is 8s of walking backwards and 10s of 50% slow

his one

is way better

[ripe stratus]

bro gojo is seriously 10 seconds??? alr nvm then im just a gojo glazer now ig

no wonder you guys were disagreeing

[wispy rivet]

i can just test how long diego ts is then rq

[dusty bramble]

disagree on what

[ripe stratus]

haruka vs gojo

[uncut locust]

if its rlly 15 then it’s crazy

37k to get a 15s ts

[ripe stratus]

its most likely around 13 seconds

[wispy rivet]

and this is probably why there should be a fucking support tier lmao

[dull garden]

So what is it

[dull garden]

True

[dusty bramble]

haruka is still like value for no cost with no competition

[wispy rivet]

going in inf

[ripe stratus]

i disagree because support or no support, youre trying to get the 4-5 best units in your loadout

youre not automatically allocating a slot or two to support

[uncut locust]

LB paragon is all monarch

[wispy rivet]

in lb runs you can

[ripe stratus]

its only if a support holds more value than a dps that it gets brung

[wispy rivet]

just have a support player

[uncut locust]

julius would be way better for LB runs if it wasn’t for crowd control bug

same with diavolo ability gettin broken by other supports

[wispy rivet]

it's so fucking stupid

legit

idk why it isnt fixed

[uncut locust]

ye

[ripe stratus]

idk why timestop is not a separate effect

[uncut locust]

they jus drag it to upd 2

[dull garden]

So what is it

[dusty bramble]

whats the bug w julias

[ripe stratus]

cancels out timestop

[wispy rivet]

almost there homie

[uncut locust]

impatient asf gang 😭

[dusty bramble]

that seems intended tbh

they js share same cd

[uncut locust]

how’s that intended

[ripe stratus]

then that just nerfs julias to the ground

[dull garden]

That's just stupid ngl

[dusty bramble]

idk you can work around it

p annoying tho

[uncut locust]

ye u gotta wait for the cd on the freeze to run out

[wispy rivet]

yeah

[uncut locust]

but that’s just long

[wispy rivet]

it's annoying

for no reason

[dull garden]

How long is it

[uncut locust]

freeze itself like 3-4s

[dull garden]

So what is it

[uncut locust]

then u can’t freeze

for like 8-13s

[dull garden]

If you dont know just say it

[uncut locust]

dbi

[normal bone]

i support this

[wispy rivet]

its exactly 13

[dusty bramble]

i am neutral towards this

[uncut locust]

solid

[wispy rivet]

also gotta keep in mind

this is extra good for paragon

since the damage

is a burst

[dusty bramble]

cheapest ts too

[uncut locust]

diavolos ability is still better

[wispy rivet]

ig

[uncut locust]

100% is but deep it u have to delete all ur supports when u use it

intended my ass

fix ts

[wispy rivet]

but is it better than me getting diego ability and getting another unit upto 20k worth of upgrades

[uncut locust]

everyone in para LB runs monarchs

[wispy rivet]

yeah

ik

[uncut locust]

your maxing all ur units either way

[dusty bramble]

sand village dailies gotta be the worst thing

[uncut locust]

and a max diavolo is better than a max diego

[wispy rivet]

i dont think youre maxing out those 2

[uncut locust]

2 farms 3 units toji

[dusty bramble]

depends on the amount of dps ur running

[uncut locust]

ur defo maxing

[wispy rivet]

just getting them to the ability

[ripe stratus]

only with monarch

[wispy rivet]

makes much more sense

[dusty bramble]

also 20k cash becomes more valuable cuz ur spending it on monarchs

[uncut locust]

also diego dps requires 3 time stops to be achieved at full potential

ur not popping ts 3 times in para

[wispy rivet]

you're not maxing

diavolo's dps

either

they're being used for their abilities

the dps dealers are choso and gojo

choso for the most part

that's the unit you actually wanna max out

[uncut locust]

ye even if u go with that logic diavolo is still a better support

[wispy rivet]

you can say that

i don't disagree

for paragon atleast

[uncut locust]

choso is better than alucard for high para LB rs

[wispy rivet]

yeah

longer bleed

easier to get upto max dps

[wispy rivet]

i'd still just say that diego is a better support for inf though

[uncut locust]

would u still not say diavolo is meta unit overall

[wispy rivet]

and for solo 15 wave gamemodes

[wispy rivet]

i'd say there should be a meta support tier

and he goes in it

simple as that

[uncut locust]

fair enough

[wispy rivet]

ima be real though i like diego more because he's a unit ive finally been able to use in solo 15 wave runs

maybe its a bias or smth

but yeah

[uncut locust]

i mean ofc in low waves cuz his domain price 37k

ur saving 23k

[wispy rivet]

yeah

wait how does diego's ability

interact with

bossesthat get iframes

after taking a certain amount of iframes

like

frieza

and ginyu

[uncut locust]

like how they just start walking again?

idk i think they would just get out of it

[wispy rivet]

but they

dont take any damage during the stop

[uncut locust]

oh ye

[wispy rivet]

it's 13 seconds worth of dps

[uncut locust]

then na i don’t think so

[wispy rivet]

it is so

all damage is stored

[uncut locust]

do u think they just straight out die?

u should test it in namek act 4

[wispy rivet]

i should

if they do then that's just insane

skipping iframes would be massive

[uncut locust]

it’s possible diavolo skips thrice

and something else maybe i forgot

[wispy rivet]

?

[uncut locust]

does he not am i buggin

[wispy rivet]

what do you mean by sips thrice

i didnt get you

[uncut locust]

like enemy’s killed while in his erasure

don’t multiply

if ur playing on thrice

[wispy rivet]

oh yeah

you right

i mean tbf that doesn't matter nearly as much

as you'd think

[uncut locust]

ye it’s not allat

[wispy rivet]

the regular enemies in paragon are still

kinda weak

only the boss has relevant hp

[uncut locust]

didn’t thrice get mad buffed

like enemies get iframes for a second

afyer gettin killed

[wispy rivet]

i mean choso and toji are both multi hit full aoes

so

[wispy rivet]

if the enemy has a transformation in diego's ability

then they do indeed start walking

[wispy rivet]

after transforming

[uncut locust]

honestly enderian idea is better

ppl will argue no matter what

a support and meta support section

[wispy rivet]

yeah a meta support tier never hurt nobody

[uncut locust]

is better to have

[dull garden]

Ik

[uncut locust]

i’ll make one

one day

[dull garden]

Ppl will argue how Diavolo, Julias, Sasuke or Diego should be in support but I honestly dont like it that way

So I didnt add it

[wispy rivet]

sukuna shouldn't

[dusty bramble]

jogo same tier as shit4c i will not take this disrespect

[uncut locust]

why cuz ur taking them in as overall in every aspect

[dull garden]

?

[wispy rivet]

sukuna is serving as meta dps

in inf

[dull garden]

I never mentioned Sukuna

[uncut locust]

ye cuz of his shrine

[wispy rivet]

oh

sasuke

im fucking blind

[dull garden]

😭

[wispy rivet]

dont mind me man

i'd say diego can go in support too

[dull garden]

Make on rn

[uncut locust]

lazyness

[dull garden]

Yeah but he's just good as an unit not just a support

So I'd rather not

[wispy rivet]

i won't put him there because he's 1) high dps and 2) unlike diavolo you could probably use his time stop multiple times amongst multiple people

like

[dull garden]

Yeah

[uncut locust]

gojo does that 2) better than him

[wispy rivet]

who's arguing for diego over gojo though lol

gojo obviously goes to top 2

in fact imo gojo and alucard could honestly just be in a seperate tier

[uncut locust]

meta support is just

[wispy rivet]

and it wouldn't be illogical

at all

[dull garden]

Thats what I tried but too many ppl whining abt it

[uncut locust]

would u even put alucard on meta support

i’d put him on top meta

[wispy rivet]

i would too

[uncut locust]

so who is even meta support apart from julius and diavolo

crocodile

[wispy rivet]

croc

sjw

for inf atleast lmao

haruka

sasuke probs

[uncut locust]

sjw can’t be considered

[wispy rivet]

he legit just is a support in inf though

[uncut locust]

in basically every game mode he isn’t apart from inf

[wispy rivet]

that's why if you really wanna make an accurate tierlist, you gotta make 1 for inf and 1 for other modes

that's the only way you can make it really accurate

[uncut locust]

that’s why u just make a overall tier list atp

[wispy rivet]

yeah

[uncut locust]

loose accuracy but

[wispy rivet]

you cant

[uncut locust]

satisfy

both sices

[wispy rivet]

vegeta varies between ss tier and f tier

in those 2 lists

how does overall even work around that

same for toji, but to a lesser extent

[uncut locust]

2 tier lists would do the job but that would make it confusing for downys

and 90% of av community is slow

[wispy rivet]

ig

[dull garden]

Good for most modes except inf so he's good overall

[wispy rivet]

i mean even the wiki has that seperation

[uncut locust]

na wiki is ass

😭

[wispy rivet]

lmao

[uncut locust]

wiki don’t got total prices and when u get ability on lots of units

i have a tierlist from like

5 days ago

hold on

[wispy rivet]

nahhh the fuck is this shit

[uncut locust]

LOL

[wispy rivet]

wiki IS ass

[uncut locust]

bro look underneath

they got kizaru

and black goku

above mythical

[wispy rivet]

this is for

fucking inf

btw

lmao

[uncut locust]

jogo is a inf goat free him

[wispy rivet]

is he really though

fucking

tennis ball sized aoe

[uncut locust]

if u have a 4 man team

and 1 is support only

[wispy rivet]

even then

[uncut locust]

he brings rengoku

3 jogos go kinda crazy

[wispy rivet]

what would you replace even

[uncut locust]

who’s top meta for LB inf rn

gojo

[wispy rivet]

gojo, alucard, choso, igris, sukuna

[uncut locust]

choso

alucard

[wispy rivet]

i think

sukuna runs monarch, gojo runs monarch, alu runs monarch

[uncut locust]

ye sukuna is irreplaceable

keep 1 at below flame

[wispy rivet]

i'd honestly run diego/tengen over jogo

in that last slot

[uncut locust]

and he buffs all ur choso a and alucards

[wispy rivet]

i think you can get 3 timestops off with diego, with gojo and diavolo stall

amongst 3 people ofc

[uncut locust]

pop gojos

i mean

pop diego’s

[wispy rivet]

pop diego's first

yeah

[uncut locust]

then gojos

then diavolo

[wispy rivet]

nah diavolo later

[uncut locust]

how

diego ain’t getting it back

[wispy rivet]

i mean you can do it either way

[uncut locust]

125 seconds i swear

[wispy rivet]

135

[uncut locust]

na actually diavolo a walk back and slow would go crazy

that’s like 30 seconds+ ur getting back

[wispy rivet]

they're slowed regardless tbf

but yeah

[uncut locust]

possibly u could but it’s safer to re use gojo

[wispy rivet]

also you dont gotta wait the full 135 seconds if someone else pops the ability right?

[uncut locust]

it’s global

if someone pops it

everyone who has diego

has to wait

that 135s

[wispy rivet]

that would make more sense

you could still probably get off 2 diego stops

[uncut locust]

why’d they overglaze gojo so much

60s

[wispy rivet]

with everything else

full aoe, and he's getting a 20% dps buff in inf runs

[uncut locust]

making it so he can pop 2 domains before diego’s and 5 before diavolos

[wispy rivet]

and 60s is

insanely short

yeah

[uncut locust]

bring back sjw 60s

he’s be solid again

[wispy rivet]

lmao

[uncut locust]

he was acc the craziest boss killer

[wispy rivet]

so back to where we were

[dusty bramble]

only good list...

[wispy rivet]

i think you probably run 2/3 diegos

on that last team slot

and the last slot for 1 person can either be tengen

or jogo

[wispy rivet]

jogo's aoe cucked him so bad man

if only he was a cone or smth

[dull garden]

They should buff all circle aoe units

They're way too small

[uncut locust]

only decent circle is igris on downslam

[wispy rivet]

so true

[quiet spindle]

why havent they added the new characters to the tierlist i got diego but idk how good he is compared to others

[uncut locust]

he’s meta

[dull garden]

He aint allat

[uncut locust]

meta

[dull garden]

He aint allat

[uncut locust]

meta

[dull garden]

He aint allat

[uncut locust]

meta

[dull garden]

He aint allat

[uncut locust]

meta

[dull garden]

He aint allat

[uncut locust]

i give up

[dull garden]

Good

[uncut locust]

grunt

[subtle finch]

unfortunately, assist does not count towards his clone system

2k yen per placement

[subtle finch]

no..?

despite his nerf, you fail to realize how op he still is for lb runs

having 500k+ summons possibly in the millions per 60s doesn’t seem balanced to me

[uncut locust]

i lit know hes op for LB

im talking as a whole

[subtle finch]

and how would that make him a better unit in general..?

there are better units to use for those gamemode

[uncut locust]

synergy with igris

easier to max passive

[subtle finch]

won’t work

you’re just wasting one slot and igris’s dps is outdated

[uncut locust]

how wouldnt it work

if the cd is getting reduced by more than double

[subtle finch]

^

[uncut locust]

ye obv choso is way better option

[subtle finch]

Don’t know about that

[uncut locust]

he is overall

[subtle finch]

Choso require supports to have a insane dps

[uncut locust]

meta for para

he does more than tengen

and tengen does more than igris withouth sjw buff

and choso also bleeds

utility

also choso is cheaper

than both

choso is way better

[subtle finch]

I still won’t bring igris even with monarch and sjw
You’re just selling out ur team in pargraon

[uncut locust]

i guess so, theres just better option

[wispy rivet]

yes he is

[dusty bramble]

sam is the powercore of this thread with her contrarianism

[blazing urchin]

diego aint allat