Buff Johnny/Second Evolution

[shadow cipher]

Nah

Sukuna, Choso, and Vegeta gave better value

Igris is also just a better unit than him

[still tartan]

giro,todo,akaza,naruto,momo,pweeny,seiko and a bunch more..??? and johnny is decent for that fact that he does 6 hits,has a decent circle aoe, and has a type of cc,which ofc cc's r pretty messed up rn but when they r reworked,he can still be solid. He is definetely not the worst in 15/20 wave matches

And well even if u consider him "the worst" there is always bound to be a worst in every damn game,they cant keep buffing the "worst" js bcuz ppl r not satisfied with him

Comparing 2 signature units with a normal filler unit is crazy

Valentine was never meta lol hes trash for a unit that takes so long to grind

only thing he was good at is dps,which also got powercrept ryt after fate upd

by that logic there r tonnes of unit who cud be outdone by gojo tho?

infact almost all the units lol

only alucard cud compete with him if we r talking in that basis and maybe few of the fate units.

All the units from the sbr update were mid,excluding diego

and johnny will def be a decent support if they fix cc

[narrow bone]

av players when their monarch isnt the best unit in the game 😔

[still tartan]

real

[iron rain]

He was NEVER meta nor good

Wtf are u saying

💔

[still tartan]

bros coping

[idle kernel]

my monarch rukia

[minor field]

bump

[signal flume]

Gyro was meta, todo was easy to evo(for toji) and atleast have some niche, naruto was meta, momo, pweeny and seiko are exclusives.

Gng what even is your point

Johnny is like exclusively bad

[still tartan]

Gyro was meta??😭

Naruto was literally

The worst

Mythic

Since when was the worst mythic considered meta??

[still tartan]

Even toji and gilgamesh are exclusives

They r yet meta rn

I wonder why

[iron rain]

Gyro was never meta fym

All the sbr units were shit on release

Except Diego

[still tartan]

He will be a good support once cc is fixed

[signal flume]

He was meta for short mode due to high placement limit and stuff, he outdps sjw when not accounting for sjw passive

[still tartan]

Yea he simply had dps which was outclassed by bunch of other units

Hence why he earned the title of the worst mythic

Any unit which is outclassed by another unit completely cannot be considered meta*

[signal flume]

Igris which is a secret, sjw which need takedowns and mad expensive, he was a good option, not the best but def not the worst

But def meta for short modes

On release i mean

[still tartan]

Sjw was far better than naruto in every terms.

[signal flume]

Sasuke is right there dawg 💔

[still tartan]

He used to stun dawg

[signal flume]

Can bro even read or smth

[still tartan]

.

Can u read this?

[signal flume]

He was meta for short mode

Thats what i said

[still tartan]

And sjw did the job better in short modes. When there is a unit which is better than naruto,what's the point of getting him????????

[signal flume]

Nah bro is stupid i literally js explained why

Im out

[still tartan]

When did sjw need takedown bud😭

When was sjw expensive bud

[signal flume]

“Bud” so tuff bro 🔥🔥

You so tuff gng 🔥

[still tartan]

U completely ignored gyro and the dandadan units lmao

[still tartan]

Sounds like someone has no arguements

[still tartan]

That's so funny

[still tartan]

Lmaoooooooo it's soooo funny how ur coping

[signal flume]

Its not like you glossed over mine or smth 😭💔

[safe shale]

Holy yap fest

[still tartan]

What is bud even yapping abt

[iron rain]

?

[signal flume]

He doesnt know 😔

[iron rain]

102k to max

Is kinda expensive

[still tartan]

Sjw used to do more dps than naruto without even reaching the arise ability tho??

That's like 60k

[safe shale]

Can yall argue under my suggestion 🙏💔

[iron rain]

👍

[still tartan]

Sjw had 4k dps before his nerf🙏 that was with lvl 50 aswll🙏

And bud literally said gyro was meta😭😭

[signal flume]

2 sjw cost 200k+ you can almost max out 3 naruto which gives you more dps without accounting for takedowns(this is for 15 waves)

Even with takedowns it is not a noticable difference

The summons suck and break immediately after colliding with shielded enemies

So dont even bring them up

[still tartan]

Sjw had more dps than naruto the upgrade before his arise ability,which costed only 60k. So 3 sjw before that ability only costed around 180k and js upgrade to arise and it's a boss killer🙏

And bud this isn't about naruto alone

Gyro and valentine sucked aswll

Akaza sucked

All the dandadan units sucked

[signal flume]

“Bud” gng can you even get any cornier

[signal flume]

Valentine was mid, not bad

[still tartan]

Why is bro offended when I call him bud😭

[signal flume]

Ye bro is a bum

[signal flume]

Not even offended yo ahh is js corny

Like you tryin too much to sound tuff

[still tartan]

As u said,it takes eternities to evolve him,he's expensive and he does no dps at earlier upgrades.

[still tartan]

Lmaoo yep ur so nonchalant man I completely understand

[signal flume]

He was def usable

Not complete garbage

[still tartan]

Yea no he wasn't he sucked at every other mode except inf

[signal flume]

Nah gng you literally sound weird ash

Who even actually talk like that

[still tartan]

Even u do

I never complained

😭

I'll stop calling u bud since ur so offended

So can u come to the point??

[signal flume]

I wasnt even offended

[still tartan]

Awwww sure man

[signal flume]

Bro victimizing himself like a mc ytber 💔💔

[still tartan]

Come to point already?

[still tartan]

😭😭😭

[still tartan]

We r talking abt Johnny and bud goes somewhere else which is so sad

[idle cypress]

Iv been watching

[signal flume]

Its not like you were the first to try and dodge

Gng bro might be dream himself

[still tartan]

Are u still not ready to come back to the original arguement abt Johnny??

[idle cypress]

Just ignore him

[still tartan]

Yeaa he's outta arguements so I can't help it

[signal flume]

Bro called in backups 💔

Ts can not be real

[idle cypress]

it’s pointless to argue people that do that is probably mad or just not happy or genuinely enjoy’s it

[still tartan]

Lmaoooo real

[still tartan]

Blud can't even continue meatriding the braindead suggestion and now is giving excuses 🤣🤣🙏

Cya man hope u have a better day after this

[idle cypress]

We know

[signal flume]

Cya hope no one would have to put up with yo ahh again after this

[idle cypress]

it’s fine maybe someone will accept u someday to da lo

[signal flume]

Gng yo bf already left

Zip it up for him when you are done

[idle cypress]

That’s u ant it?

[idle cypress]

Alr I will

[minor field]

Bump

[robust frost]

Dawg uryu is worse than johnny

[narrow bone]

uryu dmg bugged

[minor field]

bump

[minor field]

vymp

[iron rain]

he's not getting buffed

Its been months

They said they wont buff old units

He's an old unit

He was not the main unit of the upd

Hes a mythic

What makes you think hes getting buffed

💔

[minor field]

Blocked messages

💯

[minor field]

cha in just got buffed

[fierce spindle]

bump

[fluid cradle]

Nooo

[fierce spindle]

its been common knowledge he's been broken since launch

[minor field]

Worse DPS than obito btw

[fierce spindle]

im saying broken literally

his ability breaks everything

[still tartan]

cha in wasnt buffed

her mechanic was bugged

she was supposed to dodge snare,but she dint

And its not like this made her go into the S tier

Atleast johnny is in B

Tell them to buff the units at the bottom if u want a johnny buff🔥

[minor field]

Yes im "epic_failure00"

Yes im a failure

Yes i dont have a brain

Yes i rage bait all the time

[robust frost]

Using a horrible tier list to prove your point is crazy

[minor field]

Johnny's D tier

80k To max, Less dps than obito, Mid Aoe

"But he is support" yeah his ability stuns the enemy for like 10 times? And it needs massive build up

[iron rain]

Johnny is easily D-C tier

Aint no way he's better than any of the units in C tier

[minor field]

maybe todo only

[iron rain]

Todo has more utility than Johnny tbh

Well both suck doesnt really matter

[still tartan]

Nah i was bored to type all the units which we mid

Johnny has some kind of utility,a unique cc which alot of units dont have

why not buff these mid units aswll? and why buff a certain unit js bcuz someone got monarch on him💔

[still tartan]

Nah hes easily more efficient than all those units below him except todo

He has 6 multi hits,can literally make enemies walk back and a decent circle aoe, he def can hold his own for a while

[iron rain]

💀

[minor field]

have you genuiely ever used johnny

[signal flume]

That literally ruin other ccs

[signal flume]

Cuz none of them were actually mid 💔

[night flower]

i doubt they wont buff old units but the devs are too busy to do an entire rework

he’ll probably recieve buffs in future updates along with other units

[neon marsh]

Synergy!

[night flower]

and if he doesn’t get buffed i personally don’t see anyone really using him anyway

[neon marsh]

What does he even do?

[narrow bone]

ts a bug dude stop using this point as a reason to buff him

[signal flume]

A bug that will literally never get fixed

It has been here since release

Remind me if im wrong but have any devs ever acknowledges it or attempted to fix it? Genuine question

[fierce spindle]

a bug thats been known or ignored and nothing done abt it

[still tartan]

Have u ever used the units like pweeny,momo,seiko,akaza,naruto,obtito 💔

They deserve a buff too

[night flower]

monarch pweeny is meta

stop hating on the goat

😭 😭

[still tartan]

please advocate for all the mid units instead of just one mid js bcuz u have monarch on him💔

[fierce spindle]

pweeny is top SSS tier solos all other units

[still tartan]

Sure man

Everything is good with monarch💔

[still tartan]

real

[night flower]

not cha in

wtf

[signal flume]

Tbf the whole ddd upd is a fever dream

[fierce spindle]

they should do more 5 placement units

[signal flume]

Make uryu 5 placements?

Would it save him?

[still tartan]

shes good with blitz 💔 and decent with monarch

[night flower]

idk about decent

maybe

complete ass

[still tartan]

This post wud seem fair if it was "buff all the mid units and not just johnny bcuz i have monarch on him"

Why make exception for a random banner unit when there r bunch of other mid banner units 💔

[night flower]

they are more like outdated

they were meta on release!

[delicate flame]

no?

werent all the sbr units ass on releasse

i dont think a single one of them was meta

[still tartan]

Yea but these ppl dont understand💔 johnny can be fixed if cc's r fixed,but no. the person who created this wants johnny to do more dps than aizen and saber

[night flower]

diego..

[still tartan]

ye

[still tartan]

diego was mid other than his timestop tbh

even now is it rlly necessary

u got esdeath and gojo

[wind obsidian]

whole map time stop

[night flower]

he was still meta on wiki tierlist

[wind obsidian]

stops enemy spawns

[still tartan]

Hmmm true

[night flower]

esdeath wasn’t around

ddd had diavolo

[still tartan]

now*

Ask for valentine and gyro buff aswll

why just a johnny:brokeb_heart:

[wind obsidian]

wasn't johnny's summary in banner saying he's a meta support unit

[minor field]

dawg theres a difference between a unit that released on game's launch and a unit that released 4 months later

[minor field]

i already told u 4 times i dont have monarch on him dawg how dumb are you

[still tartan]

akaza,uryu..??

[signal flume]

Valentine got the highest dps on sbr release, diego got ts and thats about it

Still better than ddd upd 💔

0 meta unit 5 bums

[minor field]

ts that makes the game 15 seconds slower each time its used

[still tartan]

valentine wasnt worth it 💔 soooo contextual and expensive and is terrible untill u max him out

[night flower]

diavolo inf meta lb

[fierce spindle]

because on paper it is a solid support ability but that ignores that its bugged

[still tartan]

except diego nothing was good.

[signal flume]

Js use crocodile vro..

[night flower]

bottom meta rn on wiki i believe

[night flower]

he atleast did damage

[minor field]

Akaza was literally released 2 weeks after the game dropped, he is not new by any means, Uryu is a good unit and is also a non important side character

uryu is good for ma cros

[still tartan]

Uryu is not worth it at all💔

akaza was still a unit released after upd

and gyro is mid

valentine is mid

why not ask for a buff on these units..??

[minor field]

i actually think you're just rage baiting

deadass

[still tartan]

ur the one ragebaiting lmao

u have no actual reasons

js bcuz u like johnny from the manga

u want him to be the best unit in the game

cant help it🤣

[minor field]

You're so fucking dumb

how are you even alive

[still tartan]

Awwwwww got no actual arguments?

expected from someone who wants to buff a specific unit🤣

[signal flume]

Gng if ichigo got a buff johnny should too 💔

[minor field]

just ignore him

no point

[fierce spindle]

i think if his ability's gonna stay horrible a johnny buff is entirely valid

[still tartan]

tell me why a valentine buff isnt valid💔

[fierce spindle]

he was strong for his time

[still tartan]

I dont see why they have to make a exception for johnny

[still tartan]

all he had was dps

that took ages to get

[fierce spindle]

because johnny does nothing but grief the game

[still tartan]

bunch of other units like that💔

[fierce spindle]

if his ability didnt cancel every cc in the game id agree with you

[still tartan]

then the solution is to fix cc

why rework johnny😭

[still tartan]

ppl r literally comparing a new unit's buff for an old unit's buff, imagine if johnny gets buffed

everyone gonna be wanting other mid units to be buffed alongside

[fierce spindle]

my point is that its been known and untouched

[signal flume]

The cc bug fix is never coming

[fierce spindle]

makes him go from decent to gamebreaking in any run that needs multiple supports

[fierce spindle]

yea which is crazy

[signal flume]

Literally just rework his passive or smth

[wanton yacht]

That’s litterly the reason why they won’t buff old units

[fierce spindle]

they have tho

[still tartan]

There is no such obligation that they owe to the player

units r bound to get outdated, Constantly buffing these units is very unnecessary when they can focus on new units which ppl can grind for

[minor field]

Lancer buff before Johnny

[fierce spindle]

if cha in can be fixed johnny can

[signal flume]

Ichigo buff before johnny 💔

He wasnt even bad

Like bro was still a cheaper alternative to saber while johnny is a worse obito 💔

Even Cha-in got buffed

[still tartan]

Fixing her isnt a buff yk

[signal flume]

Dodging doesnt include snare

Ion think any dodging unit can dodge snare

Or maybe im wrong you can check

But something that was there since the beginning got “fixed” right before the devs announced solo leveling upd 2 is dropping?

I doubt its a coincidence

[fluid cradle]

Wdym solo leveling upd 2v

???

[still tartan]

Why wudnt it include snare lmao,Snare is a of attack and dodging it is completely fair

[still tartan]

uh?they announced a solo leveling expansion?

[signal flume]

In the stage yes

[signal flume]

Because snare is literally tailored for rengoku when he released?

Like he is immune to snare so that he can be an unit worth getting

[wind obsidian]

and snare only happened in demon slayer map

[signal flume]

They announced in the stage

[wind obsidian]

and once u get rengoku, there was like no point in doing the map

[fluid cradle]

Ohhh cool

Heck yeah

[signal flume]

Future enemies may have it

[fluid cradle]

When

[signal flume]

4.5 or 5

Idk

[fluid cradle]

noice

Am still waiting for stage notes

[wind obsidian]

true

but you wouldnt be using cha in against those

[signal flume]

Maybe she will get an evo when the upd drop

And solo leveling enemies might have snares

There are literally 0 reasons for them to add snare dodge to cha in

Currently i mean

Though it is undeniably a buff

[still tartan]

Well uhhh diavlo has almost same passive as cha-in yet he was able to dodge it.

i wonder why

[still tartan]

🤷was just a fix

diavlo proves ur theory wrong unfortunately

[still tartan]

Ic gud then

[signal flume]

Also ion think tengen can dodge snare either since i js tested and its either i missed a 60% 10 times in a row or he cant dodge snare

Which is pretty funny

I think any unit that doesnt have a 100% dodge chance cant dodge snares

[wanton yacht]

i thought tengen did dodge snare?

[signal flume]

Idk i js tested

Im literally in sandbox rn

[wanton yacht]

weird

[signal flume]

He got snared 10 times in a row

[wanton yacht]

firefly guy quick question

[signal flume]

?

[wanton yacht]

do you know anything about fate

?

[signal flume]

I do

[wanton yacht]

ok, i was making a suggestion and would like some feedback

if you could

[signal flume]

Alr

[wanton yacht]

ill send in dms

gimmie a sec

[gaunt elk]

He won't snared in the actual demon slayer map

because they are immune to snare in that specific map

[wanton yacht]

sent

[signal flume]

Yeah cuz stage buff

I think

[still tartan]

He cant?😭

[signal flume]

Yeah he cant

Any units without 100% dodge chance cant dodge snare is what im seeing rn

[gaunt elk]

Yeah 💀

[signal flume]

Checked all of them

[still tartan]

Diavlo.

Oh withour

mb

[signal flume]

Diavlo got 100% dodge chance

[still tartan]

Yea cha in has 100% too....

😭

[gaunt elk]

She does?

Been so long 💀

[gaunt elk]

I forgot what she does, I just heard people saying she has top 5 dps a couple of updates back

[gaunt elk]

Oh shitttt

[still tartan]

Uhhh she has good dps with blitz/ethereal/deadeye yea

[gaunt elk]

a counter

[still tartan]

bud dint even know this😭

[gaunt elk]

Am I the only who thinks Goku black is underrated

cause like

10% but multi attack so almost guaranteed execute

[still tartan]

woahhh

story mode only tho lol

20

%

[gaunt elk]

true 💔

Oh wow

even better

[signal flume]

I knew i js didnt know he could dodge snare too

Tho its pretty weird how snare work

[still tartan]

welp this is quite contrary to what u js said

[still tartan]

for sure

weird mechanic but alright

[signal flume]

Ye diavlo can dodge snare i thought i implied him

[still tartan]

why wasnt cha in in that implication if u knew she had a 100

% dodge chance

well wtv just know that its a fix and not a buff

[signal flume]

Cuz i always thought being unable to dodge snares is like the medium and all dodge units cant dodge snares

Mostly from using tengen and pre-buff cha-in

[still tartan]

welp wtv u say man

[signal flume]

Ion think ive ever used diavlo against tui

[still tartan]

u do agree its a fix and not a buff ryt?

[signal flume]

A bit iffy about it since it is 100% intentional for cha-in to be unable to dodge snare when ds update dropped

This is more like a change

[still tartan]

😭

[signal flume]

Idk if you played when that upd drop or not but it was 100% intentional so that people would pull for ds units

[frail vault]

Buff Igris instead of this jonny yes papa

[still tartan]

Diavlo had the same passive and he was able to dodge it,They obv had to make it fair for and fix cha in aswll

they were fixing unit mechanics

like they did with lancer aswll

[signal flume]

Archer can dodge it too btw

[still tartan]

yea after the 100% is built up...ik

[signal flume]

Well all they have to do now is fix cc which is prob never coming

Did they even address it in this stage??

[still tartan]

So u do acknowledge this is a fix and not a buff?

[signal flume]

More like a change for her to be more in line, a fix is suppose to solve an issue thats unintentional

[still tartan]

I never rlly saw the use of rengoku when i cud js use sakura lol

they cud have js made ds units immune to snare and not add sakura

[signal flume]

Ye her too, they gotta add her or else the player base would riot

[still tartan]

sooo thats prolly not the case..

[signal flume]

The ds units were horrid

[still tartan]

tengen was meta at the time tho,and ppl grinded rengoku for the sake of his exclusivity

so i dont see why they did not make her dodge snare at that time

seems like a genuine overlook than intentional to me

and even lancer was fixed with his passive

against ywach boss

[signal flume]

To make the ds units more appealable if that make sense

Cuz they would make farming for rengoku was easier

[still tartan]

they were already appealable tho is what im sayin

[signal flume]

Akaza was horrid and tengen was worse than igris with sjw, that whole upd was a pretty big mess

[still tartan]

and even if it was intentional,pretty sure they wud have fixed the passive way earlier

[signal flume]

They still havent fix something unintentional yet so i doubt it

[still tartan]

No one wud get akaza oveer tengen anyways,and igris was a tough grind so tengen was meta

[signal flume]

The summon bug have been here since day 1 and its not even complicated to fix

[still tartan]

what bug?

[signal flume]

Summons break completely against shielded enemies

Like they lose collision and stuff

[still tartan]

well it rlly depend on what the game considers summon as,if they consider summons as a hit,it makes sense that they collapse on shielded enemies

well man wtv

[signal flume]

Though they should deal 1 dmg to the shield if they count as a hit but they dont

[still tartan]

cha in wasnt buffed,soooo dont use her as a reason to get johnny buffed🙏

[still tartan]

oh they dont?

dang

[signal flume]

Also if it works like that they would js move past the shielded enemies and continue to damage the other enemies

Which is not the case

[still tartan]

Bug vanguards🙏

[wanton yacht]

232 days…

[fluid cradle]

What

[minor field]

since what?

release?

[wanton yacht]

You just have to know

[vale shore]

[minor field]

havent bumped this in a while

[narrow bone]

good dont

[minor field]

?

[fierce spindle]

bump

[robust frost]

Johnny fix is real

[iron rain]

Please keep it that way

[still tartan]

Yoooo Johnny won't be mid any longer

[minor field]

You mean

he will be mid after the change

and not absolute garbage

[still tartan]

🙏🙏His cc is pretty op if u ask me

Inf runs he cud br gud

[still tartan]

Yea and he doesn't need to be good considering how old he is

[wanton yacht]

he would prolly be some inf Lb menace

[idle kernel]

What does Johnny cc do

[polar robin]

we still going on abt that

get over it hes trash

[signal flume]

How bro felt saying that:

[polar robin]

caring abt a single trash unit in a td game 💔

[polar robin]

oh no u got me

[minor field]

BUMP

[minor field]

bump

[signal flume]

Bump

[iron rain]

This might hands down be the WORST suggestion ever made in this server

down bump

[signal flume]

Nah vro justice for the crippled

Are you saying someone disabled should be treated like that?

[narrow bone]

depends on if they deserve it

[iron rain]

they dont

[frank spoke]

Just cuz u got monarch on him doesn't mean that he needs a rework

[narrow bone]

over 10 people have said this, it doesnt get through his thick skull though

[frank spoke]

Only 10?

[narrow bone]

over

[static plover]

chumimi

[signal flume]

Him and his partner saved a child with a terminal illness while being crippled, he def deserve the buff fr

[minor field]

Bump

[minor field]

bump

[iron rain]

worst suggestion oat

[hot summit]

Thats not even why

johnny is arguably the toughest character in the entire franchise

and hes one of the most broken guys in the verse

he should not be ass dude

its shameful

all of the sbr units should’ve been good but ESPECIALLY johnny

bump

[narrow bone]

their power in the anime should not translate ingame

also all the sbr characters were fillers while we waited for upd 2

they werent really meant to be good

[minor field]

iq matches the pfp

[narrow bone]

cope

[hot summit]

thats not really my point

it was more that hes a hype character and a lot of ppl love sbr and johnny

so why is he ass?

[narrow bone]

filler update filler characters

idk what to tell you

[hot summit]

isn’t half of the enjoyment from anime td games getting to use units u like and that u know?

my favorite character is ass bro

[minor field]

he's ragebaiting just leave it

no point

[narrow bone]

but not all characters are equal and johnni is just on the worse end

you complaining isnt going to change that

regardless of if he is your favourite character or not

just accept hes bad and move on 💔

okarun sucks, nobody is complaining like a pest about it

[wanton yacht]

Erm actually I am

[narrow bone]

🤫

[wanton yacht]

Please buff okarun

💔

[narrow bone]

you havent made a post on it yet

(please dont)

[wanton yacht]

I won’t

But mabye I will

[iron rain]

Worst suggestion oat

Please delete ts

[wanton yacht]

Ain’t Johnny technically getting buffed?

[iron rain]

Not really

[narrow bone]

how so

[iron rain]

He's getting fixed

[wanton yacht]

Reworking cc

So like he’s usable now

[iron rain]

And he's not the only one

[wanton yacht]

Ig it’s not a buff

Idk is his cc even allat?

I never used him

[narrow bone]

yeah its good

[wanton yacht]

Ok so then he’s probably good for inf

[iron rain]

Not really worth the unit slot tbh

[narrow bone]

basically you hit an enemy with it and every amount of seconds they spin (basically stunned)

[wanton yacht]

I don’t do inf Lb so I wouldn’t know

Tbh

[narrow bone]

i do and he would be good if he didnt break cc

[wanton yacht]

If you say so

Was gonna try and get into Lb after they rework cc

Not even Lb in other td games took more then 3+ hours

[minor field]

bet my queen gets what she wants

[narrow bone]

same cus my squad has monarch kempachi and salter and we cant do ts without the cc breaking

[narrow bone]

insane glaze

you cant even do anything abt it anyways

except make another horrible suggestion

[hot summit]

is that the shot?

[minor field]

BUMP

WE getting this to 1000 stars

[minor field]

Bump

[minor field]

bump

[proven valley]

[minor field]

BUMP

[iron rain]

worst suggestion oat

[signal flume]

Best*

[minor field]

🗣️

[iron rain]

Worst*

[frank spoke]

Agreed

[signal flume]

2 Ls to balance out the 2 delusional Ws

Btw peak pfp

[minor field]

Bum

[minor field]

Bump

[regal pike]

Even though this probably won't be added I'll still bump

[minor field]

never give up

Johnny Could get a second Evolution when they revisit Jojo

he's only a mythical with 2 lame ass passives rn

[regal pike]

I'm skeptical
Devs don't seem interested in doing jojo justice
Diavolo doesn't even have a title apparently

[narrow bone]

they are adding it soon

the diavolo title

[regal pike]

ig we might have a chance
the jojo comeback

[regal pike]

i mean tbf we got a solo leveling one first, but i trust in av to cook with the next jjba update

[minor field]

jjba no anime airing

solo leveling most popular anime in the world

makes sense why we got solo leveling 2

jjba peak tho

[regal pike]

yeah i guess

im not complaining i reallly like sl

but jojos wouldve been nice

[minor field]

!!

Johnny 2nd evo is real

[minor field]

Another "we wont be buffing old units" moment

[robust frost]

Why tf they buffed one of the best supports

[signal flume]

Alr now buff johnny

Hes a fellow jjba unit

[robust frost]

Buff valentine

One of the hardest secrets to get

[minor field]

All jojo units were disrespected hard

Except Gyro he was in a perfect place

But johnny got 2 shit passives

the main character btw

Valentine is made well but stats and circle are just too low and little for him to be useful and hes too expensive for no reason

[slate narwhal]

gyro is ass

he costs so much time and money to get him to golden zone for him to actually do any dmg

[minor field]

he had best dps after valentine

during jojo upd

gdps

[wind obsidian]

atleast his cc is fixed now

it doesnt break others

[minor field]

wow he went from absolute fucking dogshit to absolute dogshit

[wind obsidian]

real

[wanton yacht]

The diavolo buff is the perfect example on why they should not buff old units

Just make a made in heaven unit that massivly buffs all jojos units alongside buffing normal units

[minor field]

Common W

[wind obsidian]

playable pucci

vanguard pucci

with quest for double evo

[wanton yacht]

Exactly

So this way they can actually follow through what they initially said on how they would handle buffing old units

[wind obsidian]

mythic pucci whitesnake stand

evo to secret pucci with c moon

then double evo to vanguard MiH

[robust frost]

Kill 36 jotaros ahh quest

[latent falcon]

Mythic -> mythic -> secret

No need to make crazy obtainment for pucci

[minor field]

fr

Buff Johnny/Second Evolution

[minor field]

Bzmp

[iron rain]

down bump

[minor field]

bump

[robust frost]

Johnny on a horse as vanguard chat

[minor field]

Peak

Bump

[polar robin]

nah it would go crazy dl

[minor field]

Wow 700

Bump

[minor field]

bump

[minor field]

Bump

[sick mural]

He is quite literally the main character of steel ball run?

Or did we just not read the manga

[strong flint]

[still tartan]

Was not the signature unit in the upd.

There is a significant difference.

The update revolved around valentine being signature unit,given his tedious evolution process

The fact that Johnny is more useful than valentine/giro now,yet ppl want him alone buffed

[robust frost]

Cuz johnny has more potential than any of the other units that update

[signal flume]

Did they fix cc?

[wind obsidian]

yeah

[signal flume]

How does it works now

[signal flume]

Gng johnny is literally the face of sbr

Along with tusk act 4

[iron rain]

Worst suggestion oat

[still tartan]

Might be in the manga. But not in the game.

Valentine is the only secret in that upd

[robust frost]

Not a secret so he doesn't deserve buff, what a goofy argument

[regal pike]

Of they ain't gonna buff old characters they AT LEAST gotta add some insane jojo characters in the future

[polar robin]

vanguard pucci quest line would go crazy

[iron rain]

worst suggestion oat

someone delete ts please

[robust frost]

best suggestion oat

someone star ts please

[minor field]

Bump

[minor field]

"How can i be different today"

[iron rain]

Whyd u delete the message

You just lost like 600 upvotes

[lapis oasis]

How to go to top in mobile

[minor field]

Delete what

[iron pine]

bottom 2 suggestions😭

[narrow bone]

whats bottom 1

buff alucard?

[minor field]

Bump

[iron pine]

the domain clash one and anything about black clover

[minor field]

Bump

[minor field]

Bump

[minor field]

bump

[minor field]

Bump

[ancient escarp]

I think that Johnny came at a very bad time

If this update were to be released now, everything would've been so much better

Still

Bump

[minor field]

yes

the update before new dev team and balancing team