#Secret pity / Increase Secret Unit roll chance

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simple fractal
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More along the lines of 1.5 M to make it fair to the big spenders as well as respecting the rarity and obtainability

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Do share ur opinions tho

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I will discuss with reasoning why I chose certain things

muted jasper
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30k should be the pity

haughty meteor
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especially this one

haughty meteor
muted jasper
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16 hrs is too long, lets make the pity 10k gems so it takes >10hrs

haughty meteor
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this game gotta be playing broooooo

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20k gems and i got shiny sjw 2 jogos and gyro

hot rampart
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secret for a reason

feral path
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Mfs want it to be the most usseles unit so they can be hapy

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Happy

muted jasper
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Mfs want it to be the most unobtainable unit so they can be hapy

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Happy

hot rampart
coarse drum
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We need this for legend stages too.Theres no way im at 384 no igris

muted jasper
hot rampart
muted jasper
raw quail
muted jasper
hot rampart
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where did you get 10M

muted jasper
hazy garnet
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secret pity in big 2024

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fix up ur luck

hot rampart
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how

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where

muted jasper
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I was thinking of 400 instead of 40

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I had just woken up

raw quail
sinful dragon
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Bump

hot rampart
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why does there need to be a secret pity

sinful dragon
hot rampart
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lol its a secret for a reason

sinful dragon
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alucard isnt at this rate

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most tournaments require him, even traitless ones

hot rampart
sinful dragon
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the absolute goated option

hot rampart
hot rampart
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like Z+ Z

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A

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if you have A and someone has Z+ youy got no chance

sinful dragon
hot rampart
sinful dragon
hot rampart
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its literally luck to roll it

sinful dragon
hot rampart
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lol thats not a good strat

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thats why you complain so much

sinful dragon
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its better than relying on JUST blind luck

hot rampart
hot rampart
sinful dragon
hot rampart
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good point

sinful dragon
# hot rampart good point

as if, I own alucard and im still saying there should be a guarantee at some point, even 1.5M-2M gems would be better than nothing

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or better yet, after 1M gems, a soft pity to increase chances over time after spending more and more gems

hot rampart
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you gonna play A of the A?

sinful dragon
# hot rampart no its secret for a reason

well agree to disagree, im gonna stop responding now, the point of an argument is to either give someone a new perspective, or gain a new one yourself, there isn't anything to take away from this

hot rampart
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but you cant understand that

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you say hes a MUST

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for tournaments when hes not

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for example

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tournament 8 strat was not even including alu when unbound was buffed

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lol you guys just try your BEST to cope

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its actually kinda sad

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his buff is also 2% better than haruka rin

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and she gives range ontop of it

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so lol just get better strats

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alr so ig bro accepted that im right

hot rampart
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@hazy scarab look at these guys

hazy scarab
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💀

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new gen tds have spoiled players too much

hot rampart
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and they think the more they cry the more will be given to them

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they want an alu pity but when im like fine make monarch have pity they say no

flat belfry
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also got a shiny version after 200k gems spwnt

muted jasper
flat belfry
muted jasper
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0.5/10 ragebait

flat belfry
muted jasper
flat belfry
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its not suppose to make it better?

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tf you on about

muted jasper
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aslong as you're happy lil bro

flat belfry
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what??

muted jasper
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you just wanna be happy, i understand 💕

rustic spoke
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secret pity? nah, but i'd understand higher chances (i got him at like 7-10k gems) cause some people cant just rlly get him

flat belfry
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that i got 4 alucards?

muted jasper
flat belfry
restive hemlock
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Just make alucard tradeable

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People that don’t have him can work up enough to trade for him 🤷‍♂️

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But I think they’re sticking to exclusives only

muted jasper
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nah they are prolly gonna add anoither unit with a similar passive to alu

rustic spoke
rustic nexus
rustic nexus
silver light
silver light
rustic nexus
silver light
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rather than a full on hard pity

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like after 1 mil gems spent it “SLIGHTLY” increases

rustic nexus
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okay slightly isnt really that usefull

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After 1,000,000 spent you get a 0,001% boost 👍

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like we need smth that actually helps people get it faster

drowsy storm
rustic nexus
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thats what i said

drowsy storm
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1m gem for 0.009 is fair enough

rustic nexus
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we need a way that people struggling to get it have away to get it

drowsy storm
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Like we aint spending 45m gems for the same chance as a mythic

rustic nexus
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Exactly

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maybe like a 0,1% chance for it after 1,5m?

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i mean 1,5m isnt easy to grind at all

haughty meteor
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1.53m

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am i cooked

hot rampart
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pys said its a secret noty a mythic

haughty meteor
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where’s my alucard 💔

drowsy storm
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Thats what i thought

hot rampart
haughty meteor
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there shouldn’t be pity but ur chances should at least increase a bit after 1m

hot rampart
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That's literally soft pity

drowsy storm
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The moment they stray from the set path they screwed up everything

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By making a 1/20k unit literally required for comp plays

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Even in “the one who shall not be named” we got normal supports who can atleast do the same thing as secret units

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No other units in this game will EVER get wounded

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Because the devs literally said so

hot rampart
hot rampart
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Example : top DMG for last week tournament even with unbound buffed alu wasn't comp

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You have bad strats is your issue and you are trying to cope

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Comp team last tournament was choso, crocodile, Sasuke, Julius, and like double farm or another support

hot rampart
raw quail
haughty meteor
drowsy storm
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Like 20% MORE dmg for every single one of your units

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You gotta be delusional to think he isnt meta

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Or even not required for the top spot

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Try playing without 20% of your dps

haughty meteor
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that one tourney

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uhh

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spider forest

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that one was like

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alucard required for traitless

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depending on ur bracket

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otherwise you can’t secure top 1 at all

drowsy storm
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Like “the one who shall not be named” meta supports are rarely exclusives from raids/legend stages with 1% drop chance from a 15 mins stage

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Or 0.5% i cant remember

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So they are in the same ballpark as rengoku and seiko

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Even then the majority can easily be obtained

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The top 5 spots are literally obtainable mythics and legendaries

haughty meteor
hot rampart
hot rampart
hot rampart
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It's 20% damage received by bleeding units in his range

cunning plover
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this is never happening 😭

drowsy storm
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You can also spread him out too

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This really js showcase your level of intellect

drowsy storm
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Name 1 alternative to alucard

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You can literally sub out homura for any rewind/slow unit and NOT LOSE 20% OF YOUR DPS

drowsy storm
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Like whats the point of tourneys if not for the exclusive units

drowsy storm
drowsy storm
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While we WILL NOT get another like alucard

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Why?

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Because the devs said so

hot rampart
hot rampart
hot rampart
hot rampart
drowsy storm
drowsy storm
hot rampart
drowsy storm
hot rampart
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Koichi is NOT replacing homura

hot rampart
drowsy storm
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There is like 20 supports that are meta

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Horuma can be sub out without losing much

hot rampart
drowsy storm
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Unlike alucard where you lose ONE FIFTH OF YOU DMG

hot rampart
drowsy storm
hot rampart
hot rampart
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No brain

drowsy storm
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You know basic math?

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Or do i need to explain it to you

hot rampart
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She also buffs range

hot rampart
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So she could cover 70 range

drowsy storm
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Definitely bait

hot rampart
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You are just slow

drowsy storm
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I refuse to think someone could be this brainless

hot rampart
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You said koichi replaces homura

silver light
drowsy storm
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Goodbye, my entire playtime of this game would be way better without knowing of your presence

hot rampart
drowsy storm
hot rampart
silver light
drowsy storm
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I said nothing abt koichi and he brought it out of nowhere

silver light
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jsut sotp with this shit and move on

hot rampart
drowsy storm
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Im crying dude bro is trying to justify ALUCARD BEING 1/25k 😭😭

hot rampart
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You just have a skill issue in tournaments

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As I said last tournament meta didn't even use alu

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And unbound was buffed

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You are incapable of reason it seems

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Or a google search

haughty meteor
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last traitless meta didnt have alu but for traits if u had him it was kinda a guaranteed wave 20 boss kill

flat belfry
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not every tournament is gonna have your favor to win

haughty meteor
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??

flat belfry
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so is your agurment only tournaments?"

haughty meteor
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im not arguing

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im just saying some ppl i know complain ab tounreys cuz its unfair to someof them

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i dont give a shit if i win or lose

flat belfry
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alr there problem solve

haughty meteor
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there was never a problem

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u created one

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lmfao

rustic nexus
nova brook
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Tournaments definitely a late-game , game mode

vestal lance
nova brook
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But if you a early-mid game player, it aint gonna favor you every time

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But ngl yo

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av forcing a update bc they scared

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But in all honesty, they should’ve been dropped it

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Lazy devs working at a slow pace , they killed they own game man ts kinda sad but no sympathy for devs who didnt wanna show the game the attention it needed

atomic echo
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Nah ion have him and I consistently reach top 1-10

outer barn
outer barn
haughty meteor
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i give up

coarse drum
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Nothing btw

haughty meteor
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😭

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igris

raw quail
coarse drum
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Nothing either

raw quail
orchid thicket
orchid thicket
coarse drum
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That small 3% is preventing me from getting him

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Bruh

orchid thicket
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i got him on 340+ tries and im close to giving up at that point

raw quail
hot rampart
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It's the same chance but the probability increases the more you do

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So you don't have a 97% chance of getting him you have a 0.75% chance

orchid thicket
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imo if you have spent 2mil+ gems you deserve to have alucard, not many ppl gonna grind to 2 mil+ even with macaroni bcs it takes literally 2 months of non-stop grind , don't even start with normal play(prolly takes years)

hot rampart
simple fractal
simple fractal
hot rampart
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just say you have bad strats

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hes a secret NOT a mnythic

simple fractal
# hot rampart they want an alu pity but when im like fine make monarch have pity they say no

Traits are not necessary for most endgame content and the traits are very well balanced to accomplish things with just a legendary trait. Alucard on the other hand, is a unit that can change the course of the game unless an alternative with better obtainability is dropped or if his chances were better (not saying we need a full pity, just need a soft pity so that it's more fair)

hot rampart
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Pys has said it

hot rampart
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no pity

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you just have bad strats

simple fractal
hot rampart
simple fractal
hot rampart
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idk if you like dont know what that means

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but your characters and their stats are not strats

simple fractal
hot rampart
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rare for a reason

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just like diovolo

simple fractal
hot rampart
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you literally have bad strats

fierce lava
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guys what do u think of my post #1325000802259173436

simple fractal
hot rampart
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very

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someone even sent getting him 3 tiems

simple fractal
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hot rampart
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thats why its a probability thing

simple fractal
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I know darn well no one is gonna play AV forever untill they get an alucard, it's gets boring

simple fractal
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Especially when we know the results

hot rampart
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lol

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coping

simple fractal
undone kelp
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2 ppl arguing over nothing casual day in av

simple fractal
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It may not seem like much, but the 2% difference is quite relevant when there is especially a nuke unit nearby, not to mention u can use haruka with alucard to get an additional 38% dmg to enemies

hot rampart
simple fractal
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The potential for progress in paragon is tied to weather or not u possess alucard

hot rampart
simple fractal
hot rampart
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the probability is still 1% but statistically 55% chance of happening

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its simple really

simple fractal
hot rampart
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alus not even used in some tournaments thats hes buffed in

simple fractal
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Let's be honest

hot rampart
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not everyone should see it

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its his probability

simple fractal
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Hmm, I find this conversation repetitive atp. I'm just tryna say, there should be a better rate for him, I'd say even igris old rates were better than his. At some point u gotta realise, that if u dont get him within 2-4M gems, u can practically give up on him. Cuz the chance of getting him is basically pure 0

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And playing or m@cro AV ain't gonna continue forever

hot rampart
simple fractal
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Ppl will move on and play other stuff if they don't get what they desire or have any hope in getting it

hot rampart
simple fractal
hot rampart
simple fractal
hot rampart
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also why complain so much about alu when he literally got BUFFED cause he was so buns

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you didn't know that im guessing

simple fractal
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Guess u didn't know that either

simple fractal
simple fractal
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Atp just make alucard do 1 M dmg and and 0 sec spa

hot rampart
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like

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a little after the game released

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type while

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and gyuess what

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you couldn't name it

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cuase you just glaze alu '

hot rampart
simple fractal
hot rampart
hot rampart
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more cope

simple fractal
hot rampart
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is whats dumb

simple fractal
hot rampart
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more cope ig

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wow

simple fractal
simple fractal
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They do what some capsule secrets do, but better

simple fractal
hot rampart
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what stage of delusion are you at

hot rampart
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but dio oh is busted

simple fractal
hot rampart
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aizens also busted

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roger was really good

simple fractal
hot rampart
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knowing this little is wild

simple fractal
hot rampart
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he also has WAY more dps

simple fractal
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Besides inf what exactly are u gonna use Dio for?

hot rampart
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dude he has absurdly good dps

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literally anything

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his dps is really good

simple fractal
hot rampart
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do you play ?

simple fractal
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I'd say he has fallen off atp, his cosmetic is actually goated tho

hot rampart
simple fractal
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hot rampart
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no

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with certain buff ofc

simple fractal
# hot rampart 1M dps

Oh no! How bout I place a single Gilgamesh and do about half of that with lesser cost

hot rampart
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not even Christmas buffs

hot rampart
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alr

simple fractal
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The farce is getting old

hot rampart
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you dont know dios ts

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you didn't know alu buff

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you think gilga does 500K dps

simple fractal
hot rampart
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gilga dont even have 500K dmg without a trait or stats

hot rampart
simple fractal
hot rampart
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3M dps?

simple fractal
hot rampart
simple fractal
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Enjoy

simple fractal
hot rampart
simple fractal
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U will be surprised

hot rampart
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i wont be

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cause I got unique on him and he dont do 3M dps

simple fractal
hot rampart
simple fractal
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Cuz if he isn't that's cap

hot rampart
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hes noit

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he literally just dont do that much

simple fractal
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If a reaper can, why ain't unique doing 4x better

hot rampart
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cause you didn't calc it right

simple fractal
hot rampart
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send me a ss

simple fractal
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If that's alr

hot rampart
simple fractal
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Also

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I'mma show the base dmg

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Dps*

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So that u can compare it to urs

hot rampart
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like upg 0?

simple fractal
hot rampart
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just dm it to me

hot rampart
simple fractal
hot rampart
simple fractal
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He does 700k without buffs

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I was slightly wrong, maybe they buffed him?

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I remember him doing only 500k

hot rampart
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dude thats not even near 3M dps

simple fractal
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That is without buffs

hot rampart
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you would have to do 30x his dmg for that to be even close

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for that to do 3M dps you need over 30M dmg

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almnost 33M dmg

simple fractal
hot rampart
simple fractal
hot rampart
simple fractal
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Mb

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U right then

hot rampart
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dios dps is like 1M

simple fractal
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The dmg is pretty good tho for how long it takes to get em

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Ima go play library of ruina

haughty meteor
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alucard required for this dogshit traitless tourney again

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actual bs

haughty meteor
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for early aoe

hot rampart
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My guy?

haughty meteor
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you need both

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toji alone isn’t doing shit

hot rampart
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I mean yeah having both is good

hot rampart
haughty meteor
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2 early aoes

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u can get 500+ if u place shit right

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rn everyone’s at 300-400

hot rampart
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usually alu isnt meta for his own element unmless traits enabled

thin edge
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Message 2500 goober

next jay
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secrets are permanent so you’ll always have a chance to obtain Alucard but for units like diavolo any exclusive banner secret should have a thing when u spend a certain amount of that currency the chance of getting that unit increase by 1.5x or more idk

simple fractal
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hot rampart
simple fractal
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This will greatly reduce the complains regarding him being glorified as a secret by alucard gatekeepers. And f2p players will have a goal to at least boost their rates.

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Referring to the the statement of "he's not a mythic, he's a secret" Comeback that most people been using to justify his rates.... So far, no secret besides him is 0.004% , Igris himself had 0.75% and he is a secret

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So it's best to just say that u dont want ppl to get alucard rather than hide behind that statement

hot rampart
simple fractal
hot rampart
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so its much more difficult

simple fractal
hot rampart
hot rampart
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shy ledge
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ima be honest, if I get alu without shiny, ima just sell it 🤑

simple fractal
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It genuinely felt reasonable for secrets to have 0.75% rate. But that would cause alot of backlash from the gatekeepers since they want to keep his "value" Up. (I'm pretty sure a dev did say secrets are gonna be untradable so idk why they wanna do this)

hot rampart
simple fractal
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Hence soft pity - 0.008% (small difference since id try to keep alucard owners feel like they still Earned theirs and can be a good enough increase to maybe make alucard more accessible to the average Joe.)

hot rampart
simple fractal
hot rampart
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i mean it literally is just probability

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how could it be different for other people unless devs made stuff to change it

simple fractal
torpid harness
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spent 1.5m gems and 3.5m spririts no alucard nor diavolo

hot rampart
simple fractal
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Not everyone is gifted by the gods with unimaginable luck

hot rampart
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thats literally 1/25000

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thats not even close to A of the A rates

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be happy alu isnt as rare as lulu

torpid harness
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the thing is aluicard is needed for tourneys so if ur not lucky ur cooked

hot rampart
torpid harness
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and thats the thing. he is way more common than lulu

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which means hes more accessible

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not having something pretty accessible is rlly annoying

simple fractal
torpid harness
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but this tournament is omething else

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u cant win without alu

simple fractal
torpid harness
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alu can get to 970 while no alu gets to 500 i think

simple fractal
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The gap for most tournaments are similar too

hot rampart
hot rampart
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copium

simple fractal
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Alucard being a deciding factor for paragon later stages

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Hurts the most

hot rampart
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you dont even do tourn so idk if you do paragon either

torpid harness
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hes a must in paragons

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20% more dmg is op

hot rampart
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haruka

simple fractal
hot rampart
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18% dmg and 10% range which helps nukes and full aoes

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hot rampart
torpid harness
simple fractal
hot rampart
simple fractal
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End up being 40-80 range

hot rampart
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bro

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how are you that bad

simple fractal
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For tournament

hot rampart
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I could use rares and get that maybe

torpid harness
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tal do u have alucard

simple fractal
hot rampart
simple fractal
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A tutorial ain't saving me from the absolute units of sweats in some of these brackets

hot rampart
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hot rampart
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im not trying to be rude

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hot rampart
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but again

torpid harness
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choso better dps but alucard better overall

hot rampart
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theres tournys where alu isnt even used

hot rampart
torpid harness
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maybe 1/4th of em

hot rampart
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so thats pretty good

torpid harness
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thats rlly bad

hot rampart
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my guy gojo and gilga will be used for almost every tourn there is

torpid harness
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alucard enchaces both

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also gojo and gilga are ez to get

hot rampart
torpid harness
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so theres no rng that determinates if u win or not

hot rampart
torpid harness
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it shouldnt take much time

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but alucard is different

hot rampart
torpid harness
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some might get bro after 100k gems

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other after 10m+

desert crescent
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some never

torpid harness
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for each luck person theres going to be an unlucky person

hot rampart
torpid harness
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and these unlucky people cant compete even in a modifier that allows them to compete with the removal of traits

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which is straight up unfair

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ive afk gems for days and days yet i cant get bro

hot rampart
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I cant say much else

desert crescent
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800 stars but when i made this suggestion i got all x 😭

torpid harness
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i just hope these devs listen to the unlucky people and put a pity at 1.5m gems (so u cant be 50% unluckier) or soft pity every 100k gems

simple fractal
simple fractal
simple fractal
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Gotta be fair towards all players

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The alucard owners as well as the non alucard owners

simple fractal
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Y'all are too accommodated to being seen as a walking wallet by devs.

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To the point they think they can completely disregard any form of fairness just to ensure they can strangle the f2p players to pay up.

hot rampart
simple fractal
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A new Pc will cost more than alucard will ever be worth

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Even if he's a 0.004% rate

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Secret ain't gonna be tradable so what's the point

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Of restricting his obtainment to a small minority

hot rampart
raven geyser
simple fractal
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Would appreciate it if u could tho

simple fractal
hot rampart
desert crescent
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bump

flint nebula
hot rampart
flint nebula
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anyways I quit these garbage rng games because I realized trhey only cause sufferiong so yall cry about grinding 2 mil for alucard

orchid thicket
desert crescent
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351 gambling addicts it seems

torpid harness
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351 late minded people

hot rampart
haughty meteor
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i finally got bro alu zog

turbid wolf
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he has no trading value

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it changes nothing if he is actually FAIR to get

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unfortunately some just wont see that

desert crescent
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"It wouldnt give me as much of a dopamine rush knowing that the chances of getting the unit increased because of pity"

wheat meadow
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same bro

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no they shouldnt

muted jasper
wheat meadow
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im not

torpid harness
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1.75m gems nothing 💔

haughty meteor
torpid harness
haughty meteor
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ngl only reason i wanted him was cuz of tournaments

torpid harness
thin edge
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Bump

thin edge
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Bump

simple fractal
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850 stars

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And 350 haters

severe tangle
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350 goated people

desert crescent
severe tangle
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yall hating 😔

desert crescent
severe tangle
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nothing, I have not even voted yet

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Im here, to cause turmoil and chaos 🧍‍♂️

desert crescent
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you basically did when you said 350 goats

severe tangle
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no votes

desert crescent
severe tangle
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😰

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for that statement, I'll vote x big_mad

turbid wolf
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glad to see the mentally impaired who downvoted this are getting a nice ratio

simple fractal
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Now ur vote makes no difference

severe tangle
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It is my loss

sleek wigeon
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Why ts coming up bruh

oak walrus
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hard / soft pity will never be added for ultra rare units

thin edge
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Why yall dont wanna add a pity

flint nebula
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bro it should be added for ultra rare units yall got it twisted

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1 mil is hard enough I dont want to go 2 mil just cuz booho bad luck

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for the frikkin best support in the game

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it'd be fine if it was just a collection unit but its meta af

turbid wolf
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no other secret is

thin edge
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Bump

patent flame
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is this dude even meta anymore

thin edge
patent flame
thin edge
patent flame
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is he??

thin edge
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Yes

patent flame
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i just don’t believe that

thin edge
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Hes the best

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Not debatable

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Same with Gogeta

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Hes top 2

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You could debate who's top 3 though

winter mantle
thin edge
orchid barn
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You don't need Alucard to progress this game, they literally added in Lancer a Meta DPS and a unit that stops regen completely.

Bleed's only problem on bosses or real high HP mobs which appear at later waves,
Or simply use Choso

thin edge
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You don't use alucard for regen

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😭

orchid barn
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I dunno, I only use him for regen ..

thin edge
thin edge
thin edge
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Use choso

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Or sukuna

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Or lancer

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Why would you use alucard lmao

orchid barn
thin edge
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Makes enemies take 20% more dmg

rose mesa
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No secret pity

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Bad

thin edge
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Thats a MASSIVE buff

orchid barn
rose mesa
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Everyone who wants it is just coping

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I got 4 alucards

thin edge
rose mesa
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It took me 13 million presents for gogeta

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I’m not blessed

thin edge
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I said u were being biased

thin edge
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Getting 10 alucards doesnt guaranteed you'll get a gogeta

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Even if you grind for months

drowsy storm
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Gogeta requires monarch to be relevant while 2 sabers output the same dps with way more consistency

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This is without accounting for her ability

rose mesa
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I’m aware it’s all luck

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So just be lucky

turbid wolf
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Hakari

pearl cobalt