{CLOSED} THIS BETTER BE A BUG: DIAVOLO BEING 0,005% IS NOT NORMAL !!

[simple basin]

THIS BETTER BE A BUG: DIAVOLO BEING 0,005% IS NOT NORMAL !!

[main panther]

this feels adv type of stuff but worse ngl 💀

i think adv had a bit higher chances

though adv is MUCH harder than this game which is insanelyeasy.

also sukuna boss rush bug which i only tryied doing now because well (the update last update sucks so i didn't even had hype)

which u can't go beyond wave10

[west marten]

this upd is so trash the max spirits you can get in 1 inf is 2.5k every 30 mins

how are people gonna get diavolo

[main panther]

even if you kill sukuna it doesn't go beyond ig

[west marten]

some people in general said 4 years

[main panther]

ask chatgpt 🔥

[main panther]

(easier than making the math tbh)

[west marten]

im gonna ask

[main panther]

you'd need 3million coins to get it guaranteed(if we had a pity) which is 25 days

[west marten]

why are all td games doing recycled events

[main panther]

if chatgpt made the right math ofc.

[west marten]

always the events with the modifiers to get more event currency

[main panther]

which i can't confirm it did but maybe so.

[simple basin]

so 3m for 25days for only 65% ? XDDDDDDD

[woven mantle]

the one jojo unit too

[simple basin]

WHOEVER READS THIS POST NEXT, PLEASE BUMP IT, I TRYHARDED THE GAME 10h/day SINCE RELEASE, and SEEING AV LIKE THAT IS JUST FRUSTRATING, DONT DIG YOUR OWN GRAVE, OWNERS.

[main panther]

is there a pity?

[simple basin]

They will never do pity for such events, if there was i wouldn't care grinding

but grinding for 50days (if the event's lenght permit) TO JUST HAVE A 65% OF GETTING IT HAAHAHAHHA

[main panther]

i meaaan still pretty much 25 days straight to get the pity ig (75 days if u play 8 hours each day)

[main panther]

(can't confirm this math is 100% right cus it has been done by chatgpt but should be close to)

[simple basin]

"'Alucard"" pity is with 1m gems with VIP, and this is 3m for pity, SO, as alucard was 65% of drop after spending 1m gems, diavolo is the same math

so 65% of drop for a slavery non-life grinding

[ornate sinew]

around how many minutes to get 2.5k

[west marten]

30

[ornate sinew]

oh so 1 hour and 30 minutes for x50 roll ? is this a scam

[west marten]

fr

[ornate sinew]

it better get increased

if not ill just quit

[west marten]

fr

[ornate sinew]

and wait adventures

[west marten]

im alr gonna do that

this game is becoming so horrible

[simple basin]

U guys better stop speaking here

[west marten]

i hope adventures is good i never played it

[simple basin]

they will ban/mute ANYWONE speaking here for 1week

I didn't knew it

just let this post in the dust

[main panther]

uhhh. depends

it's pretty grindy. if u dont like grindy games u probally won't like it that much ig

also harder where u need people to solo most phases (which av is easy)

[ornate sinew]

its grindy, but fun and it hits different

[west marten]

ig im gonna play it then

[magic token]

Rate isn’t that bad. It’s just like dio oh from 🇦🇦. The soul drops could use a buff tho

[glad summit]

They didnt cook this time shi so mid

[west marten]

fr

[ornate sinew]

i like it more, bcz av is easy everything soloable and trait rolls are easy to get, but adventures trait rerolls had a value

[simple basin]

U are fine grinding for 500-600+ hour to ONLY get 65%+ of getting him ?

[main panther]

i really dont like how easy av is. like i honestly think the essence ofplaying a tower defense is playing it with friends (which u honestly dont need to because u can literally destroy every single phase alone)

[ornate sinew]

exactly bro, i have 0 monarch at lvl 86 and i solo everything

[simple basin]

{CLOSED} THIS BETTER BE A BUG: DIAVOLO BEING 0,005% IS NOT NORMAL !!

[ornate sinew]

it was even diffucult to solo with uniques on adventures

[magic token]

That’s the point tho it’s an extremely difficult to obtain unit that most people won’t have

[simple basin]

Then, it's not rewarding the most tryharding people, that's not normal to spend 600+ hours and not being able to get the unit

[magic token]

True

[simple basin]

i sent 2m gems and still didn't got alucard,

now i have to face the same problem with diavolo

alucard is replacable and NOT NEEDED IN INF as a x4 copy, BUT DIAVOLO DOES

[minor rock]

The thing is, diavolo is a meta unit, unlike other things like broly so thats a problem

[simple basin]

Diavolo will be a must in ANY lb team if they don't replace by another unit it in few month like the other game did with homura

And will need a x4 copy of it

[zenith estuary]

its meant toi be impossibly hard

[simple basin]

Then it also meant to sh$t on their most tryharding players ?

[heavy steeple]

its a very hard game, but its good

[simple basin]

If adventure implement a f2p rrs meta like AV, im gonna just quit 100%, i will not wait AV devs to hire a real player who have a heart.

[heavy steeple]

adventures will not implement a f2p rr feature i dont think, its supposed to be a hard game and it was doing fine without it

[simple basin]

Then, adv will die before AV des

[heavy steeple]

how ? it was doing 40k while being p2w..

[simple basin]

Nobody will play a data saved game where all the players have 1-2+ years of exp ahead of u with a TON of rrs used/saved while the economy is SH$T for newcomers

[simple basin]

Now, better games are here, with better economy

[heavy steeple]

better economy? anime defender sucks, reborn is boring, and vanguards sucks

[simple basin]

i meant better economy by BETTER reroll access

[heavy steeple]

so u just want a easy game with easy reroll access? Anime adventurs was fun because of how hard it was, and you needed 4 players to beat 1 legend stage if you had no unique

[simple basin]

Nobody will play a game that make u roll 10x in a MONTH while others allows u 200+/month

[simple basin]

Im not playing for content like most of the players, im playing for inf LBs

[heavy steeple]

then go play als

[simple basin]

i wanna inf among the biggest community/most of the TD community tryharder

idc abt a dying game

not rewarding the grind

so AV/ADV

if AV wakes up ? Good if Adv gives as much rrs as AV ? perfect

if bot of them fail, ill jst quit roblox/videos games

[heavy steeple]

so give 200 rr for f2p even tho the game is supposed to be hard?

[simple basin]

idc te difficulty is here in competitive contents like tournament, inf caste, paragon, inf

[heavy steeple]

ok so u dont care about difficulty then play als, it updates every 2 weeks and gives free rr every upd lol

[simple basin]

stories modes and event are never that hard, and U KNOW IT

? I said that i can't play a dying game

[heavy steeple]

20k is dying 😭

[simple basin]

it is

bots

AV is 30k but 80% are real

als is most likely 40%

[heavy steeple]

whats the point of botting a "dying game"

no need to bot when the game is so easy

[simple basin]

if u knew how much money they make by botting, u would have ur answer

[heavy steeple]

so ur saying they bot the game themselves?

[simple basin]

Anyway, im only playing a BIG game that allows a patient f2p to do inf

[simple basin]

? Im talking about the ones that are botting, the players

selling accs mostly

[heavy steeple]

if u think that adv is too p2w, go play reborn

[simple basin]

as i said, im no grinding dying games

the only games im looking for is AV and ADV rn

im F2P and saved 1000+ rrs since release

[heavy steeple]

35k is dying sure

[simple basin]

i just hope i can do the same in ADV, even if its 500rrs every 3months

[simple basin]

lets see in 3months whch games will still have 10k+

[heavy steeple]

adv will release by then so every tds game will die 😭 (except for defenders cause of bots maybe)

[simple basin]

only adv, av will have that (maybee for awtd after updates and maybe anime reborn if they change their ui)

[glad summit]

Its dying ash bro made his game into ad

[simple basin]

AV will stay in the run 100% @heavy steeple

If AV wakes up, itll be the #1 ADV competitor

[heavy steeple]

1 month for 5 characters is goated bro

[simple basin]

As i said, they need to wake up

[heavy steeple]

they also sneaked a lobby and didnt even put it in the upd 😭

[simple basin]

this update is SOOO bad, TOO BAD THAT THEY ADDED A 0,005% unit to make us grind and forget the time

[heavy steeple]

that goes for any game

if they wake up they will be better

so

[simple basin]

They always disapoint us, if ADV change their rrs economy, ALL OTHER TDs game will die

and i will quit my first roblox game that i enjoyed so much even if i didn't attempted any inf lb yet

[heavy steeple]

50 rr every time u max out bp if u buy premium pass

[simple basin]

Only AV cares, ONLY have have the money to wake up, and u know it

[heavy steeple]

and premium pass is cheap

[simple basin]

how many rrs per months/pass season ?

if i DO ANYTHING

[heavy steeple]

bp last like 2 weeks

so 100 every month

[simple basin]

What about trading, was it easy ?

to make rrs w it

[heavy steeple]

well

it depends

roger (a secret unit from capsule) was like 100 rr

and dio over heaven

is 750

[simple basin]

both was rarer asf tho

[heavy steeple]

yeah

or u can do inf lb

but then u would need a unique

unless u go support

[simple basin]

can't do inf lb without reroll anyway

i need 1500+ rrs to HOPE doing inf

[heavy steeple]

just try and play support

[simple basin]

but if u was right with ur 100rrs/month.... I hate it so much

[heavy steeple]

why

thats good in adv

[simple basin]

Nobody will accept supports in the top10 AND, i don't wanna be the one licking boots

what was the % of chance to get the 2 most played traits in lbs ?

[heavy steeple]

0.2 and 0.1

[simple basin]

334rrs to get 1 unit lb rdy

so 1600+ rrs to get a full inf lb team if u spend on the most broken unit wisely

[heavy steeple]

in this game its basically the same

0.175 and 0.1

for a chance at lb

[simple basin]

but less time to wait

i don't wanna rely on being lucky, just relying on the average

and u could lb with 3 op traits right ?

at least top 25 ?

[heavy steeple]

you have to rely on being lucky in every anime tds game 😭

if they have a trait system ofc

[simple basin]

The average never lies, right ?

[heavy steeple]

whats the average in your definition

[simple basin]

Anyway, kinda surprising for such a COMPLETE game as ADV to ONLY have 100rrs/month to get on

average is average, wdym

[heavy steeple]

yeah its not a easy game like what your used to

[simple basin]

out of 1000 persons, 80% of them will get 4 op traits, and 10% 1-2, 10% 5-6

[heavy steeple]

have u never played adv before?

[simple basin]

Then, why would Adv NOT ADAPT to the TD meta rn ?

[heavy steeple]

because its not even here?????????????????

[simple basin]

Nah never, only saw videos befors AV release to know what itll looks like

[simple basin]

Im talking abt the future rn, when itll re-release

[heavy steeple]

yeah that explains it

[heavy steeple]

they gave no sneak

they only sneaked that its coming soon

[simple basin]

They said that they worked a lot on the game tho

Why would they keep their p2w economy ?

[heavy steeple]

for money

[simple basin]

They don't care of the 1% of community that paid for TONS of rrs right ? Theyll steal spend with the new rr economy

They need to care about the other 99% playing their game, but yeah maybe im wrong bc i feel like most of the players only play for collecting units and have fun

Maybe i am also from the 1% who try to inf as F2P

[heavy steeple]

how do they not care for the 1% of their community

why are u arguing about adv if u NEVER played it

and only seen videos

[simple basin]

Adv was p2w right ?

I know as much as u know right ?

[heavy steeple]

if u count 10$ as p2w sure

[simple basin]

????????

[heavy steeple]

someone who never played the game vs someone who played since release

[simple basin]

people who was in inf didn't paid 10$ for it btw, we talk about 1000$+ per team here

[heavy steeple]

so ur saying that a f2p would never be on lb

[simple basin]

wait, ur 100rrs/month was with or WITHOUT bp ?

[heavy steeple]

with obviously

[simple basin]

If he can't stack rerolls like im doing with AV, why he would aim for inf lbs ? How would he get the 4 uniques units ?

[simple basin]

even crazier

[heavy steeple]

by luck LOL?

[simple basin]

then that's not a F2P, i would say "a choosen one"'

[heavy steeple]

💀

holy coping

[simple basin]

Bro u can't play with words like that, u know that i can't rely on being extremely lucky

[heavy steeple]

yes you can dude 😭

[simple basin]

That's NOT a solution 😭

[heavy steeple]

how would u get a monarch/unique then?

by getting chosen??

by god choosing you out of everyone??

[simple basin]

Putting the chances in my sides by farming rerolls for a LONG TIME, and spending 2000+ of them ONLY WHEN u are sure at 100% of the units who are getting the traits will stay LONG at the meta

like aizen for example

[heavy steeple]

aizen fell off in 2 or 3 upd

[simple basin]

he was still used in late 2023 in lbs tho

talking about august/september btw

[heavy steeple]

and why would u spend trait on aizen

[simple basin]

Aandrevious used him in ALL of its inf team and got top5 in all of the mpas wdym

[heavy steeple]

u would only use him for his ability no?

so that means u could either go no trait or just try and get divine

[simple basin]

Andre and his team still had unique with it

U can't tell me divine/unique don't matter for a passive/ability unit based like aizen

[heavy steeple]

bro i legit said GET divine for aizen

[simple basin]

"try and get"

compared to "nothing"

[heavy steeple]

what is ur point in this argument

that adv is p2w?

[simple basin]

Oh im not making any arguing point, just saying that Adv should give a better access for rrs, at least 200/months(with bp) OR, putting rrs challenge like AV

[heavy steeple]

bro 200 a month is WAY too much for adv

that is 2 rogers

[simple basin]

I can buy the bp, but i can't pay more than that in video game, but the challenge of attempting lb without spending a TONS seems soo fun

[simple basin]

And what if thoses 200rrs are not tradable AND, only obtainable for the 5% of most-dedicated/tryharding players ?

It will only be rewarding, not "too much" as u said

[heavy steeple]

bro what 💀

only obtainable by the 5%

how would that work

lmk

[simple basin]

Levels, High castle room (they did that i KNOW, but its trait based unfortunately), challenges

i don't think more than 5% of the AV players have 1100 rrs stacked up right NOW as i do

That's what i meant by 5%

[heavy steeple]

no point in arguing with someone who doesnt play adv is there

[simple basin]

I just think u didn't understood that this wasn't an arguing conversation

[heavy steeple]

what was it then

talking to eachother about how bad adv reroll economy is

😭

[simple basin]

Wanting to know why would ADV not giving more rerolls than before, but u just seemed to stick with ur "AV is difficult, it's like that it won't change" mentality, just tried to make u spit the truth

[heavy steeple]

can u show a ss where i said av is difficult

[simple basin]

ADV

sry i forgot the "D" letter

[heavy steeple]

well im not lying tho

u needed 4 players for 1 stage

and sometimes u cant even beat it

[simple basin]

I see, u was more like of a "i want challening content' guy as a "inf should be accessible to all players who wanna do it so bad, even without money"