Pay attention to unit suggestions. (alresd answered)y

[slim umbra]

A dev has said they are considering a unit suggestion they look at them

[cyan meadow]

W

[desert roost]

Can you ping it here?

[manic current]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[slim umbra]

#1288681427046498345 message

Bro was literally in the chat when it happened 💔💔

[desert roost]

Uh where?

[slim umbra]

You have a message under like 4 other messages

[desert roost]

One is crazy

[slim umbra]

He was literally talking to you in the chat💔vro got terrible memory💔

[desert roost]

Bro I see all these good ass units you telling me only one is getting just considered

[slim umbra]

Good/=/ what their looking for apparently it’s specific from what he said

[manic current]

well u dont know why it was denied, maybe they have plans already for that unit, maybe the anime its from is not gonna be added in a while, etc

[slim umbra]

#1288681427046498345 message

[desert roost]

There’s a unit suggestion with 1200+ likes
Bother to see because of likes my ass

[slim umbra]

If it’s not original or has enough level of detail then they aren’t considering it

Stars/likes just help them see it since it gets put on the board

[desert roost]

So they only approve a anime that no other td game has added

[slim umbra]

No, it means if that suggestion had some sort of originality in it aka effects or passives and such then they may consider it and if it’s detailed enough

[desert roost]

Bro then tell them that. The owner and other people still asking them

[desert roost]

Every unit suggestion is original though? No other game has this specific passive system

[slim umbra]

Original in a sense that their passives aren’t just basic, or that it isn’t plain to that character some sort of eye grabber that would intrigue the devs

[manic current]

iirc a dev said they had a year's worth of content planned already

[deft summit]

my chopper suggestion needs to get accepted…

[desert roost]

Oh so no like basic ass passives/ abilities.
If so check out my unit suggestions they are a eye grabber maybe
#1289649652852981801
#1289297792250155028
If y’all think the same, consider giving your boy a like

[desert roost]

Ima check it out rn

[deft summit]

i made it before the game even came out so it doesn’t have passives rn

[desert roost]

Oh

[slim umbra]

Can’t say if those are eye grabbers or not to them but they look cool

[slim umbra]

Bro sakura alry took his job 💔

[deft summit]

ik 😞 i was devastated

[desert roost]

Rayne one for sure 😎

[deft summit]

but someone gave me a suggestion to give him dual evos like griffith from aa which was a pretty cool idea
support/dps

[desert roost]

Sounds cool

[woeful scaffold]

Mine look pretty cool

[desert roost]

Up

Bump

[plush glacier]

mine get considered all the time.

every time i let chat know im making a new series suggestion document all the devs immediately get webhook of my message and their attention peaks.

"Yes, FBI" they go in unison.

[white fern]

Aww, Loki does care about me

[sweet lava]

can you tell me where the good unit suggestions are? cause 96% of the unit suggestions rn are just google gifs/skills that the devs could find by themselves or units with already ingame/boring passives

[plush glacier]

google gifs/skills that the devs could find by themselves
wow imagine using reference materials to be narratively consistent with the actual fucking characters

also quite ironic of you to say that shit as if you have any standards but not be in any of my suggestion forum posts

passives should not be the highlight quality of a moveset. secondary to the special ability.

[sweet lava]

suggestions are supposed to be creative and not something i can find in less than 10 seconds on google

[ebon coyote]

"Creative suggestions" sounds so weird, considering that some rarities exist for fodder units...

[sweet lava]

it should when making suggestions, passives are what makes a unit cool and unique, im sure the devs do not need someone making a "this unit would have 50 dmg 2 spa 52 range and this already ingame passive" suggestion when they can already do this by themselves

[plush glacier]

you know what makes a unit cool? cool special attacks that have neat animation and visuals and have side effects

[sweet lava]

guess what, the devs can find these on google too

[plush glacier]

nobody is excited for a character's passive LMAOO

[plush glacier]

wow they're gonna go google searching all day every day?

[sweet lava]

just like that Christmas unit suggestions, i could find the same list of units by searching "ice anime characters"

[sweet lava]

all it takes is seconds

[ebon coyote]

If it was this simple, why won't any dev every make a good Rimuru unit? Bro is literally bursting with potential. What we got?
AWTD - Stun immunity
ASTD - Ratk on Megiddo, somehow Merciless on Demon Lord with just type removal
ALS - DOTs and Fear 💀
AD - Nothing at all

[plush glacier]

get his ass

bro really says "find in 10 seconds on google" as if logging the actual moves themselves doesnt take some time.

its not about finding the source material its about reading it and recording it all to make it quickly accessible while working.

[ebon coyote]

Oh and yeah - ACD - summoner Rimuru (not fun, doesn't show any feats, not interesting at all)

[sweet lava]

if ur gonna suggest something that devs already know then just dont dawg, and again, suggestions like "this and that and stun immunity passive" wont change anything

[ebon coyote]

i'd say it's even more about how to fit skill in game's limitations

[plush glacier]

"already know" your argument just changed

first you said whats the point if someone can search it up and now its about knowing them to search them up?

[sweet lava]

im pretty sure the devs know that a ice unit is supposed to freeze, Just like a fire unit is supposed to burn

[ebon coyote]

Someone is changing his opinion a bit, as i see. To be fair, i'm not the one to talk about that, since i've literally made doc on LoR update with passives, stats, and such such such. I'm rather here just for fun

[plush glacier]

the suggestions i make dont have any number specifics at all, if that makes you feel better. i just focus on conceptual and thematic nuances

[ebon coyote]

• Ice unit supposed to freeze
• Look at effect icons
• Snowflake = Slow

[plush glacier]

yeah why tf would ice freeze lol it has to slow or it would be broken

[sweet lava]

can u stop acting like u didnt understand the message

[ebon coyote]

Oh please, can you stop reducing unit's value to just passive?

People in suggestions and players in whole looking at what update/unit it is. Because people have favourites, yk? It's weird even hearing "passives are what determine unit". Well, good job then, but it's same as saying that some unit won't be more interesting than, for example, Genos, just because of visuals. Character itself, visual, method of obtainment, passive, everything is important. You can't just say "Oh, this passive is crazy, unit is cool" if he has, for example, worst attack animation in game. It's meta, but not cool

[plush glacier]

i can never understand how a passive can be the highlight interesting part of a suggestion. that is implying that the interactivity of the game is exceptionally interesting to begin with

[sweet lava]

im sure that
upgrade 1 (line aoe burning fist)
593 damage
7 spa
27 rng
upgrade 6 (circle aoe volcan thing deals burn dmg just like the others 7 units ingame)
727237 damage
7 spa
282 rng
also isnt the highlight of a suggestion, devs do not care about the stats you give them, why create passives when every unit has the same one (stun immunity/dodge chance, damage increase when a enemy is killed)
if ur not gonna include anything new on your suggestion then just dont suggest (just like most gamemodes suggestions, most are copied from aa, why do you guys act like if the devs never played aa or any other tower defense game?)

[hexed saffron]

Check my suggestions out 🤑

[sweet lava]

animations is up to the devs, even If u give the best ever gif, they can still mess up and make it ugly

[plush glacier]

considering you just wrote the most dogshit moves ever as a suggestion to strawman the argument, yeah

i dont know about that....

[sweet lava]

imagina making a mui goku suggestion
"upgrade 1 kamehamejha
7263 damage
2 spa
16 rng
passive: stun immunity"
the devs know that mui goku is supposed to have stun immunity and have kamehamejha as one of his moves dawg

[plush glacier]

😭 bro has no faith in their animation skills come on now i dont think anyone is asking for anything impossible

[sweet lava]

where

[fallow cloak]

https://discord.com/channels/1205546848035799081/1289470573637795951 is mine good and how do u know if its declined

[plush glacier]

ok then i think we're just not seeing eye to eye since i hate every super popular and generic moveset character

[hexed saffron]

Check dms I sent the links

[sweet lava]

titan shift turning the unit into a new unit with new moves is a cool idea

[hexed saffron]

[sweet lava]

imma go back to making these bye

[ebon coyote]

"devs know that mui goku is supposed to have stun immunity"

Waiter waiter, more lack of creativity please!

Stun immunity? First of all, we have "Dodge" in-game (Tengen and Cha-Hae). Second of all, tell me what unit in-game has only stun immunity and nothing else in same passive, without extra mechanic or requirement?

Third of all, you said exactly opposite of what you were saying right before. "Passives is what highlight unit" well, then why you even take MUI Goku (Completed UI) as an example? You just said popular but most plain character possible, good job. Thing is that, no matter what passives Goku will have, it's Goku. People will like Goku. Why? Because he's Goku. Maybe choose other character, rather proving yourself wrong?

I got drunk, sorry for two "second of all"

[sweet lava]

ye stun immunity because thats the first thing that came to mind, ur comparing something i made up in 17 seconds to suggestions with specific stats details and how and why kamehamejha should have a line aoe, and hey, just as you said, dodge and counter attacks are already in game, so why dont you make a suggestion of a unit thats not just a CTRL C CTRL V of already ingame characters? cause just like mui goku, the devs know that hes supposed to have/be a dodge focused passive/character

ye everyone like goku, this means that a dragon ball update/new unit will come out sometime (maybe next month, maybe next year), so why make a suggestion with things that even a baby can find in less than 30 seconds on google (everyone knows that kamekaheja is a line aoe, that the big blue ball is a circle aoe, that the dragon fist thing is a line aoe and blabla)
ur taking an example way to serious
damn i typed all that

[plush glacier]

bruh yall type too much

[sweet lava]

"gojo unit suggestion
time stop"
just like the others 1847 td games

[ebon coyote]

If that's first thing that goes to your mind, then you're not the one to complain about lack of creativity. Sometimes passives more based on attack of character, rather than just his canon abilities. Yes, Goku supposed to dodge, but making it straight up the only thing in one of his passives is bad thing

We're not talking about suggestion like #1288787325924540517 where all guy did is just pinned picture and asked for unit. We talking about real suggestions like #1289323901892952124 . Yes, attacks and visuals is not the only important thing. But i've literally said that every aspect of unit is important. You're the one who was saying stuff like "passive is what highlights", but you gave zero good arguments (imo). I didn't know at all about #1286658378831233045 but i check passives AND images. Because who would care about some ugly unit with insane passives if his visuals are just bad

[plush glacier]

#1288821347224653865 here read this 12 page doc i made on an eva event
or read #1288023281315745876 where i tried to make rem/ram actually interesting as units
or my #1287372411943260181 where i tried to make a somewhat interesting money unit
or my #1287259658632822815 where i tried to add in some actually underdog characters and moves

[ebon coyote]

Geez, why do we even argue if i'm filling doc with suggestion while you writing own suggestion based on pic i've seen from you...

[plush glacier]

the devs know how to balance the game the best so the only passives i include are the ones that are absolutely relevant to the character and must not be forsaken

[sweet lava]

by "96% of unit suggestions" on my first message here i was talking about suggestions like #1288787325924540517 / #1285405768136396853 / #1288297683345477683

[plush glacier]

i feel like you may have overgeneralized the forums...theres a lot more interesting stuff than the generic ones posted

i actually dont see those super generic ones often

[ebon coyote]

Literally pinned one empty suggestion and two low-quality ones. (Low-quality because people can't understand that at most units right now have only 3 passives, and they already want 4 for some god unknown reason)

Now then, let's close the curtains on this discussion, because Jesus, doc takes too much time and checking on discord is bothersome

[plush glacier]

im not gonna lie my passives are insane lowballs i only add 1 pre evo and 1 post evo without any specifics on if its on level up or default lmao. so underbuffed. i leave that up to others.

[south salmon]

I'll be real I don't think the suggestions channel should have ever been for units, it's fine to suggest them but curb your expectations. Much more realistic for the channel to be about QoL or new game modes etc.

[plush glacier]

now i want to make a gintoki unit

[ebon coyote]

I have other opinion. Thread/discussion type suggestion channel supposed to be exactly for gamemodes and units (thought-throughly ones). Those short stuff like "make raid shop refreshable" should have separated suggestion channel in form of chat rather than discussions like this.

Reason is simple:
Unit - need balancing. So threads/discussions are good to balance it out
Gamemode - need balancing. Same stuff
QoL? Fr? In most of situations, it need just few sentences, if not just one

Plus discussion channel HAS A CAP. If not mistaken. We already have dozens of "refresh raid shop weekly", while we have, for example, only one Mushoku Tensei update suggestion

[manic token]

The update themes have been decided months in advance, hence the unit suggestions that correspond to the theme have the highest chance of being considered. Even then, the suggestion may not align with the vision of the developers hence it may not be considered.

We have already been looking at various suggestions, making a suggestion telling us to do so is pointless.

[plush glacier]

inb4 pay attention to the #1289791396076851254 suggestion

[desert roost]

So, we have to guess which things corresponds to the theme? You guys should be accepting new stuff too yk and some of these suggestion might be even better than what you already planned

Still there is no way not a single unit suggestion got approved. It’s obvious you guys don’t give a shit

[manic token]

If those suggestions were better than what we have planned then they would have been accepted.

Also, the game just released with most of the units in this update having been decided months before, so cease with this "we don't give a shit" bullshit when we go through suggestions every single day.

[lyric ridge]

ban

[desert roost]

It’s hard to believe you guys do care about the unit suggestions, but ok

[vocal depot]

most of the unit suggestions fucking suck so

[lyric ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/990717651342999623/1166012678259625994/togif-2.gif?width=525&height=699

[wise swan]

ong

[vocal depot]

theres a few good suggestions and they may be added but for the most part they suck

[shrewd kayak]

Give a good example

[lament atlas]

except mine though im sigma https://discord.com/channels/1205546848035799081/1262757514362228817

[shrewd kayak]

Of suggestion

[marble musk]

banned

[desert roost]

Of course some will suck. Some of them just have basic passives but none of the new units really didn’t have anything unique either (excluding rengoku)

[lament atlas]

💔

[wise swan]

akaza’s compass isn’t unique?

[vocal depot]

me when theres no really unique units IN UPDATE 0.5

[buoyant blade]

will there be skibidi toilet collab in the future

[wise swan]

we ain’t even got a full update yet and people complaining about diversity of units

[hexed saffron]

Mine

[vocal depot]

fr 😭

[shrewd kayak]

Remember this is only 0.5

[desert roost]

? That’s just an ability what gives him more damage… I don’t see how it is unique
@vocal depot oh yeah update 0.5 my bad

[shrewd kayak]

Whats yours

[hexed saffron]

Eren and zeke

[shrewd kayak]

They are probably gonna add aot soon

Since they already built the aot map before

Maybe

[hexed saffron]

Oh nc

[wise swan]

immunity to stun and also he reduces ailment down time, for the start it’s varied enough

[vocal depot]

erm mod said it if it doesnt happen im complaining and getting you fired

[desert roost]

Complaining about not a single suggestion hasn’t even been approved knowing damn well the devs did not plan exactly we suggest
@wise swan what even is ailment?

[hexed saffron]

Can u still check them out and tell me if they good or nah 🙏

[shrewd kayak]

Erm "maybe"

[vocal depot]

im an av member you think im smart enough to understand that?

[desert roost]

This is a good idea other than not saying shit

[shrewd kayak]

Nope

Not at all

[desert roost]

💀

[wise swan]

why did you ping and reply 😭🙏 ailments are stun, spa reduction, dmg reduction that kinda stuff, and also the devs have their own ideas they want to implement and likely have a roadmap for updates.
When it comes to a specific theme and the suggestion is good enough, they will likely add it

[vocal depot]

av really proves that a good game doesnt mean a smart community

av community is on par if not dumber than the ad community despite the game being better

[desert roost]

My bad, I’m use to pining other people when replying because of this cd.
Ig it’s a little unique but why is the most unique one the worst 💀

[wise swan]

you good gang dw, as for the last bit wdym

[desert roost]

Akaza is the worst in the update and he’s the most unique one, no?

[wise swan]

i mean yeah, but remember they are trying to keep it balanced, even though he’s the worst out of the 3, doesn’t mean he isn’t usable every mythic and even some legendaries, epics are usable still for general content

[desert roost]

Ig but literally no one uses akaza 💀

[buoyant blade]

mf akaza is carryin me in raids, paragon and literally everything else

[wise swan]

^^

[desert roost]

Can’t you just use tengen like why use him lol

[buoyant blade]

Akaza is cheap, multi hit, decent aoe and 4 placement.

[desert roost]

I’ll delete this suggestion because a dev already responded. Let’s hope maybe they can start approving some unit suggestions
@buoyant blade I heard he’s pretty good early unit, but it’s hard to believe Ngl

[vocal depot]

akaza is the best boss killer by far, his aoe isnt good for killing normal enemies but its INSANE for bosses and having the highest damage in the game boosts that

[desert roost]

Ain’t rengoku the best boss killer

[fallow cloak]

Sure thats why everyone using vegita or cha for boss raid event

[desert roost]

Pay attention to unit suggestions. (alresd answered)y

[vocal depot]

its called boss evenet but the bosses aint the point the reason cha and vegita are used is becasue theres a ton of normal enemies

[buoyant lily]

The best boss killer is

[fallow cloak]

Their passives still better for boss killing

[vocal depot]

but their aoes and damage is worse

[fallow cloak]

Akaza has worst aoe in game

[vocal depot]

its the best aoe for bosses because it can hit way outside his range