buff Ethereal 👍🏼

[dapper gyro]

Why? In my opinion blitz trait do 20% SPA
And just 1.85% the chance but the Ethereal do the same SPA and 20% damage and 5% range the 5% range doesn’t matter cause its small percentage so just the different is the damage and not a high percentage and the Ethereal chance is 0.175 so overall I think it have to puff

[knotty socket]

yk bitz is only good for one thing right?

[devout perch]

buff*

[dapper gyro]

buff Ethereal 👍🏼

[devout perch]

everyone make sure to vote 🤮

[dapper gyro]

Bro we need more than one trait op

[dapper gyro]

Different opinions bro maybe you don’t agree with me but others agree with me

[tropic condor]

I do agree it's an opinion, and opinions should be respected depending on their severity, but in this case ur stating an opinion on a objective matter making U wrong, eternal is literally on par with monarch when it comes to some units, monarch is good for inf while eternal is good for progressive gamemodes, when an opinion is objectified then you should 100% accept the fact that someone would fact check and correct u ( some just flat out be mean and explain nothing ),
In conclusion
Eternal is actually goated

[paper girder]

Etherial gives more DPS than Monarch on 3+ placement units. And since we don't have 1 and 2 placement... you get it?

[devout perch]

4+ placement

100% is 2x, 200% is 3x, 300% is 4x etc so monarch only bad on units that can place 5 which is why monarch is so bad on cha in

[paper girder]

Nono. Monarch gives like +48% DPS on 3 placement, Etherial gives +50%

[devout perch]

what are u on about? lmao

so are u saying monarch is bad? since theres no 2 placement units except haruka who doesnt do dmg

[paper girder]

Basically, yes. Etherial right now does better job in everything. Only usage i see for Monarch is some early def units, where you just place one and forget. Since all content can be closed without traits, those are mostly usable for inf (right now)

[devout perch]

thats how it should be tbh, the 'unique' trait not being the best in all content and traits not being super op

[tropic condor]

1- he's correct
2- he's saying monarch is not ideal for 3 placement units, in the future if they add 1-2 placement units it will be 100% better than eternal

[paper girder]

3 SJW = 300% DMG (consider it as 300% DPS as well)
3 Etherial SJW = 360% DMG with -20% SPA = 450% DPS (+50%)
1 Monarch SJW = 400% DMG with -10% SPA = 444,44% DPS. Which is literally +48,1%. This is quite weird because Monarch is supposed to be SJW's signature

Like, how they made it, that SJW's signature trait is not best on him? So weird...

[tropic condor]

It's just the placements problem tbh, can't be having traits amplifying a special unit, will be p2w and unfair

[devout perch]

but u need to place 3 ethereal to be better thats why i said i think its supposed to be like that, the unique trait monarch in this game not being the best in all content u dont need uniques to be high on the inf lb that gives more people a chance

[paper girder]

I get it, but i think they could have easily just buffed SJW's stats and cost but made him 2 placement, to at least fit trait perfectly (heavy bias, but still)

[tropic condor]

I get it, but don't forget that this isn't sung final evo, incoming evos might lower the placement which makes monarch better for him

[paper girder]

Yet, as i said, main usage of traits is inf rn. And you not actually in any problem with higher cost there, don't you think?

[paper girder]

Hmm, true, but it will take such a long time for him to shine then... I hate solo-leveling, but still it's quite sadge

[devout perch]

they cant add double evos they will just get accused of copying anime defenders

[tropic condor]

Placing 3 sungs is better than 1 , he's slow , 3 would attack multiple times and dish out more damage even in Early game

[paper girder]

ahem ahem AWTD ahem (it's literally not AD's new thing, and some units just NEED those)

[devout perch]

im looking at it from the perspective of all the angry children who dont care about awtd having it lol

[tropic condor]

Double evo has been out in astd - awtd and many more games, ad didn't come up with anything, aa did double evo to, just look at Eren and cell evolutions, while ad did just flat out steal and copy special features after av released

Did y'all forget evolving Goku from 3 stars to 6 stars in of astd? That's literally a mechanic in tower defense games, not a new thing and everyone knows that

[devout perch]

dont think u understand what i meant i said they would get accused of copying anime defenders which would happen

[paper girder]

Yeah, but either way some units just NEED that a lot. Based on how game does stuff rn, Vegeta double evo 100% supposed to be Majin. SJW already talked about. Sasuke with at least Susanoo (haven't evo him). Obito with full Statue. Naruto with first Kurama mode

[tropic condor]

Whoever accuses av for copying is just hating tbh, doesn't make sense when ad themselves copied them, but yeah people like to say dumb stuff so they could feel better about the game they like ( not u)

[plucky pine]

at this point better buff Solar

[tropic condor]

I've already explained why this does not make any sense in another suggestion

[devout perch]

the defenders defenders would have so much fun accusing vanguards of copying them of anything they add like double evos which they did before vanguards even though its not new to this type of game and im willing to bet the defenders devs added double evos randomly in that update for this very reason, so they can have something to throw back at vanguards when vanguards eventually adds it

[round shadow]

isnt it good if other games copy good features? Itll make the quality of roblox in general better

[paper girder]

It's good, but some devs are hungry for cash, attention or both

[tropic condor]

Even though I really like to shit on anime defenders they added double evo because their community and multiple youtubers asked for it, so it isn't really just to throw shade at av but because they finally wanted to listen to their community's

[devout perch]

yeah but they know that when av adds double evos their loyal players will accuse av of copying

as revenge

[tropic condor]

Yes it's extremely good to be inspired and have competition for us consumers because we get fast and good updates, but the problem is when others game blatantly copy a feature of a project they hated on for so long ( ad hated on av for so long it's crazy), it shows how their so desperate to stay relevant without trying to make something new or creative

[tropic condor]

Sorry bro I completely disagree they added double evo way before anything, and I said double evo is a feature that every single person know of and understands as a common feature, but when it comes to unique stuff like how av did it that's where it becomes copying, yes u might say there was multiple games that had that such thing but adding right after av is just dirty and so ironic, if u knew about it why didn't u add it before, someone might say the same thing for av if they add a double evo but it's just dumb to even mention that, the game just dropped ofc it's not gonna already have double evo units

[fiery jacinth]

no

ethereal>monarch

[fiery jacinth]

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[knotty socket]

What rlly needs a lil buff is solar