#[mistral 2] base elements from other elements

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junior plume
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I gave it the same color as lake

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i think that's okay since theyre both water related and point to themselves

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so wind isnt a real base element

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Air looks provable

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vacuum cleaner gave a lot of new options

nocturne peak
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its so p ow e r fu l i t k eeps

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b lowingmylettersaround

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maybe

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SURELY

rose comet
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Flood proven (this was extremely lucky btw) ```
Flood + Flood = Tidal Wave
Tidal Wave + Flood = Tsunami
Tidal Wave + Tsunami = Tidal Tsunami
Tidal Tsunami + Tidal Wave = Tidal Bore
Tidal Bore + Tidal Bore = Error: Input cannot be the same item.
Error: Input cannot be the same item. + Error: Input cannot be the same item. = Steam

junior plume
nocturne peak
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first plant-related

nocturne peak
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(ignoring Apple stuff)

junior plume
rose comet
junior plume
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but if its proven it will prove so many other stuff

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unfortunately I havent proven it yet

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right now im making a bunch of 2lws

nocturne peak
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SURELY

junior plume
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what is happening

junior plume
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or something

nocturne peak
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yep poseidon is in prompt

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Muddy Planet + Ocean = Poseidon

junior plume
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lemme check

nocturne peak
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#1409111173185536071 message

junior plume
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oh oops

nocturne peak
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oh it's old

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hm

sand crow
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I missed the chance to get the FD of that

rose comet
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Steam proven ```
Steam + Steam = Cloud
Cloud + Steam = Rain
Rain + Rain = Storm
Storm + Storm = Hurricane
Rain + Storm = Heavy Rain
Heavy Rain + Storm = Thunderstorm
Hurricane + Thunderstorm = Thundersnow
Steam + Thundersnow = Snow
Snow + Steam = Slush
Heavy Rain + Hurricane = Flood
Flood + Slush = Melt
Slush + Snow = Sleet
Sleet + Slush = Ice
Ice + Melt = Water // 14

rose comet
junior plume
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how?

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water doesnt get to any of the otehr base elements

rose comet
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i thought that was the main point of this thread

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find one of the base elements from other elements

junior plume
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but it doesnt get to all of the base elements

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so we cant prove we can make ANY element from steam

rose comet
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on my save wind only has a few recipes

junior plume
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im not sure actually

rose comet
# junior plume not to wind tho?

here you go
Steam true proven ```
Steam + Steam = Cloud
Cloud + Steam = Rain
Rain + Rain = Storm
Storm + Storm = Hurricane
Rain + Storm = Heavy Rain
Heavy Rain + Storm = Thunderstorm
Hurricane + Thunderstorm = Thundersnow
Steam + Thundersnow = Snow
Snow + Steam = Slush
Slush + Snow = Sleet
Sleet + Slush = Ice
Ice + Ice = Glacier
Glacier + Ice = Meltdown
Hurricane + Steam = Hot Air
Hot Air + Meltdown = Hot Air Balloon
Snow + Snow = Blizzard
Blizzard + Hot Air Balloon = Frozen Balloon
Blizzard + Steam = Hot Steam
Frozen Balloon + Hot Steam = Pop
Pop + Pop = Bubble
Bubble + Bubble = Bubble Bath
Hurricane + Hurricane = Tornado
Heavy Rain + Tornado = Flash Flood
Flash Flood + Slush = Mudslide
Cloud + Mudslide = Mud
Bubble Bath + Mud = Bubble Bath Mud
Bubble Bath Mud + Tornado = Mess
Cloud + Cloud = Fog
Fog + Fog = Mist
Mist + Mud = Dirt
Dirt + Tornado = Dustdevil
Dirt + Dustdevil = Sand
Blizzard + Sand = Sandstorm
Rain + Sandstorm = Dust
Dust + Mist = Smoke
Dust + Smoke = Smog
Dust + Mud = Dusty Mud
Dusty Mud + Storm = Dust Storm
Dust Storm + Smog = Dusty smog
Sand + Steam = Glass
Dusty smog + Glass = Broken Glass
Broken Glass + Mess = Cleanup
Meltdown + Slush = Ice Cream
Fog + Sandstorm = Sandfog
Ice Cream + Sandfog = Sandwich
Sand + Sand = Beach
Beach + Broken Glass = Cuts
Broken Glass + Dust Storm = Glass Dust
Glacier + Glass Dust = Glass Shard
Cuts + Glass Shard = Cut Glass
Beach + Cut Glass = Blood
Blood + Glacier = Crimson Ice
Crimson Ice + Glass = Ruby
Dusty smog + Ruby = Ruby Dust
Ruby Dust + Sandwich = Ruby Sandwich
Dusty smog + Smoke = Dirty Air
Dirty Air + Smog = Pollution
Pollution + Ruby Sandwich = Trash Can
Fog + Thunderstorm = Lightning
Lightning + Lightning = None
None + Trash Can = Empty
Cleanup + Empty = Recycle
Dust + None = Vacuum
Empty + Vacuum = Air
Air + Recycle = Wind // 65

junior plume
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(right side is still literally empty)

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but the nice thing is that the entire steam group is proven now

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so if anything can get to that one error element

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it gets proven instantly

rose comet
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K proven ```
K + K = KK
K + KK = KKK
KKK + KKK = KKKK
KKKK + KKKK = KKKKK
KKKKK + KKKKK = Error: Invalid input. Please provide two different items.
Error: Invalid input. Please provide two different items. + Error: Invalid input. Please provide two different items. = Steam // 6

nocturne peak
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[mistral 2] base elements from other elements

nocturne peak
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i CANT GET EARTH

junior plume
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@nocturne peak is there any progress

nocturne peak
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no

nocturne peak
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Dirt obtained

nocturne peak
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got Algorithm

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Google and Letter likely possible

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Letter 100% possible

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ill see how many of these recips i can add to my save

nocturne peak
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think i have Alphabet now

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can get *

nocturne peak
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I have Africa

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thats it

nocturne peak
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OMG ANFDSFMABSMFBDSMFN

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asd bmfndN<FMANDS<FMNAS<FMNAD<SMFNAS<MF>

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it took WAY too long to make this

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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378 vs 33 vs 46

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thats crazy

junior plume
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Nice wind is proven

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New diagram

nocturne peak
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m so insane

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this took a lot out of me(ow)

nocturne peak
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same group

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i think

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and also by extension gust

junior plume
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since being proven means you need to be able to get to wind

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and that means you can get to steam

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and from steam, you can get to wind and thus any other element

nocturne peak
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ok so we have the

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windy group

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hehe

junior plume
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so its now the "proven elements group" ig

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Oh wait but I made an extra criterion for this

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Also a group is defined as any set of elements such that any element in that set can reach any of the other elements, WITHOUT passing through the base elements

nocturne peak
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wait why

junior plume
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without passing through the base elements

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so if an element can get to wind its not in the group

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Wind is in the group though since it technically doesnt "pass" through the base elements, instead starting at them

nocturne peak
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so group is just

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disproven elements that can all get to each other

junior plume
nocturne peak
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no they cant

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proven means can get to wind

junior plume
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Steam can get to itself without touching wind

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by going to storm instead

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but its still proven

nocturne peak
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huh

junior plume
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the extra criterion means it just cant pass through wind when getting back to itself

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it doesnt matter if there is some other route to go to wind

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or earth or whatever

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I also don't want Wind to be in any groups because of the technicality earlier, so ill adjust the extra criterion

A group is defined as any set of elements such that any element in that set can reach any of the other elements, WITHOUT passing through or starting in the base elements

junior plume
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Helium-4 and Helium-7 disproven

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Red is disproven, green is proven, others are untested

junior plume
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wow look another spammer, how interesting

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(already blocked btw)

junior plume
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@nocturne peak first number-related challenge: Helium-3

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Helium-6 and Helium-5 are disproven tho

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Lithium-7 disproven

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Hydrogen-3 potentially provable through Helium-3

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3Li probably provable, 6Li disproven

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Beryllium-9, 13, 15, 16 are probably provable, the rest of the beryllium isotopes with A > 6 are disproven

junior plume
nocturne peak
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EARTH disproven (EARTH/Mud/Dirt is a group)

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WIND is hard

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maybe provable

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group i think

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WATER/Lake disproven

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that leaves one more challenge. WIND.

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good luck clover

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ok nvm you just get to an error and self-combine

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Hurricane + Hurricane = Tornado
Tornado + Tornado = Error: Invalid combination. A combination cannot be the same item.
Error: Invalid combination. A combination cannot be the same item. + Error: Invalid combination. A combination cannot be the same item. = Steam  // 4
junior plume
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doesnt mud point to itself

nocturne peak
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oh

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dumb

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whoops

junior plume
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Here's all errors in the merged save (I think) and what they make when combined with themselves @nocturne peak @rose comet

nocturne peak
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that doesnt start with error

junior plume