👩👧 👩👦 Base Elements From Other Elements | Infinite Craft | Page 15

cedar lotus Aug 31, 2025, 10:37 PM

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i guess you could

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optimized base elements from other element**s**

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or call it "element groups" ig

rigid heart Sep 1, 2025, 1:51 AM

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I've now gotten more than 8000 elements from the upside down t

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Almost 300,000 combinations

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

merry sable Sep 1, 2025, 1:52 AM

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Omfg

merry sable Sep 1, 2025, 1:52 AM

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rigid heart AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Can you send savefile?

rigid heart Sep 1, 2025, 1:53 AM

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I just turned off my pc

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Tomorrow I can

merry sable Sep 1, 2025, 1:53 AM

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Okay

rigid heart Sep 1, 2025, 1:59 AM

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rigid heart I've now gotten more than *8000* elements from the upside down t

I've gotten 5 unicode characters: Ʇ (the original), Ƃ, Ǝ, Ɛ, and �

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The rest is basically junk

covert totem Sep 1, 2025, 11:34 AM

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Wind from 254 proven (43), [5000 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

254 + 254 = 508
254 + 508 = 762
508 + 762 = 1270
508 + 1270 = 1778
762 + 762 = 1524
1778 + 1524 = 3292
1270 + 3292 = 4562
508 + 4562 = 5000 // 8 ::

covert totem Sep 1, 2025, 4:24 PM

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Omw to prove Xn+1

cedar lotus Sep 1, 2025, 4:46 PM

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im working on L1 Norm

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not much

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but

covert totem Sep 1, 2025, 6:32 PM

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as a side project, here's a full screen of proven lineages

ebon glacier Sep 1, 2025, 6:36 PM

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Don Quixote

covert totem Sep 1, 2025, 7:19 PM

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ebon glacier Don Quixote

yeah it's proven along with sancho panza

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i'll only be doing the xn+1 proof until the spreadsheet is updated

gaunt lance Sep 1, 2025, 7:38 PM

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if anyone knows what the record is for the biggest disproof, I think it should be a pinned message :)

covert totem Sep 1, 2025, 7:41 PM

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gaunt lance if anyone knows what the record is for the biggest disproof, I think it should b...

Like largest group of elements made with a disproven element?

gaunt lance Sep 1, 2025, 7:42 PM

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yes

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I guess the easiest way to know an element is disproven is for its one-starting-element savefile to have the number of combinations exactly equal to the number of elements squared :)

past olive Sep 1, 2025, 7:45 PM

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not necessarily?

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idk im too tired to think

gaunt lance Sep 1, 2025, 7:45 PM

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or wait, A + B is counted the same as B + A for A =/= B

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so for n elements it would be exactly 1/2 * n * (n+1) combinations

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(and of course you need the results of all the combinations to loop back into previous elements but that’s automatic I guess)

past olive Sep 1, 2025, 7:47 PM

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there's also the chance of elements being dead from character limit

gaunt lance Sep 1, 2025, 8:01 PM

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ah

rigid heart Sep 1, 2025, 8:01 PM

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gaunt lance so for n elements it would be exactly 1/2 * n * (n+1) combinations

Why n+1?

gaunt lance Sep 1, 2025, 8:02 PM

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that’s just the way math works lol - 1/2 * n^2 isn’t even an integer half the time

covert totem Sep 1, 2025, 8:02 PM

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past olive there's also the chance of elements being dead from character limit

already discovered elements

past olive Sep 1, 2025, 8:03 PM

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covert totem + already discovered elements

those dont incur further elements to test so i think the equation still holds in that case

gaunt lance Sep 1, 2025, 8:09 PM

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What’s true is the following: for the one-starting-element savefile,

num of combinations ≤ 1/2 * (num of elements) * (num of elements + 1)

and

num of combinations = 1/2 * (num of elements) * (num of elements + 1) ==> disproven

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unfortunately

num of combinations = 1/2 * (num of elements) * (num of elements + 1) <=/= disproven

because of unrevivable dead elements and pairs that the AI randomly refuses to combine, but the ==> is still very useful :)

past olive Sep 1, 2025, 8:19 PM

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yea it's not necessarily a biconditional

lofty grail Sep 1, 2025, 8:21 PM

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atp just count

covert totem Sep 2, 2025, 1:30 PM

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Xn+1 revision 2
I'm doing 4000 more combinations for each revision

gaunt lance Sep 2, 2025, 3:32 PM

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Is this a math-related proof attempt? :)

cedar lotus Sep 2, 2025, 10:18 PM

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set X=3 /j

onyx siren Sep 3, 2025, 8:50 AM

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cedar lotus set X=3 /j

is that a reference to the collatz conjecture??

maiden crest Sep 3, 2025, 8:50 AM

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interesting server name

onyx siren Sep 3, 2025, 8:50 AM

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you mean thread name?

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oh wait you mean me?

onyx siren Sep 3, 2025, 8:51 AM

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maiden crest interesting server name

#1410046579595018270 message read down from here

maiden crest Sep 3, 2025, 8:52 AM

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lol ok

rigid heart Sep 4, 2025, 11:02 PM

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300k combinations done from upside down t

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aaaand 10000 elements

lofty grail Sep 4, 2025, 11:03 PM

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ig we should do it manually atp

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what depth is it

rigid heart Sep 4, 2025, 11:03 PM

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lofty grail ig we should do it manually atp

how the fuck would i do it manually

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its 10k elements + theres no logic

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just keep running it and pray

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is the strat

lofty grail Sep 4, 2025, 11:04 PM

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rigid heart how the fuck would i do it manually

I mean, find it semantically and those stuff

rigid heart Sep 4, 2025, 11:04 PM

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lofty grail what depth is it

depthExplorer broke after depth 16 so i just do depth 1 on a 1200 elements list

rigid heart Sep 4, 2025, 11:04 PM

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lofty grail I mean, find it semantically and those stuff

impossible

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literally impossible

lofty grail Sep 4, 2025, 11:07 PM

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rigid heart impossible

what I mean is like, do something like fura.11 proof

rigid heart Sep 4, 2025, 11:07 PM

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hmm...

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ƧƖƦƎƎƬ

ebon glacier Sep 4, 2025, 11:07 PM

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sireet

lofty grail Sep 4, 2025, 11:07 PM

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like try something that might have potential

rigid heart Sep 4, 2025, 11:08 PM

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lofty grail like try something that might have potential

lofty grail Sep 4, 2025, 11:08 PM

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not like shooting at 10000 different directions

ebon glacier Sep 4, 2025, 11:08 PM

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Well yknow the problem probably is there is no direction to shoot at

rigid heart Sep 4, 2025, 11:08 PM

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fr

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just shoot randomly and pray

lofty grail Sep 4, 2025, 11:08 PM

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but like

ebon glacier Sep 4, 2025, 11:08 PM

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when everything is meaningless strings, nothing will land you meaningful strings

lofty grail Sep 4, 2025, 11:09 PM

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who TF cares about those fffd ones

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ignore them

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this will reduce things ig

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then just do the depth exploration removing every element that has fffd

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then repeat

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it should go faster ig

rigid heart Sep 4, 2025, 11:10 PM

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lofty grail then just do the depth exploration removing every element that has fffd

great, only 8000 elements instead of 10000

lofty grail Sep 4, 2025, 11:10 PM

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oh

rigid heart Sep 4, 2025, 11:11 PM

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also, shit like �ʍ could be important, because i dont have just ʍ

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greek letter...?

lofty grail Sep 4, 2025, 11:12 PM

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we can invest on them

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on this element

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idk it's all random anyways

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also isn't it Ω?

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like

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ig it's upside dow

ebon glacier Sep 4, 2025, 11:15 PM

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lofty grail also isn't it Ω?

i think thats the inverted ohm symbol in the image

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from the letterlike block

rigid heart Sep 4, 2025, 11:15 PM

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ƐsƱ

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upsilon

rigid heart Sep 4, 2025, 11:16 PM

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lofty grail also isn't it Ω?

thats omega

lofty grail Sep 4, 2025, 11:34 PM

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oh ok

rigid heart Sep 5, 2025, 12:11 AM

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rigid heart greek letter...?

Ɛs + Ʇ = ƐsƱ

random pike Sep 5, 2025, 8:06 AM

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rigid heart depthExplorer broke after depth 16 so i just do depth 1 on a 1200 elements list

If you want I can run with my version, I should get further with it

unkempt hinge Sep 5, 2025, 5:10 PM

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Is there a list of elements that could be combined into base elements???

covert totem Sep 5, 2025, 5:23 PM

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unkempt hinge Is there a list of elements that could be combined into base elements???

Check pins for proven element spreadsheet

unkempt hinge Sep 5, 2025, 5:42 PM

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Got it

covert totem Sep 5, 2025, 5:55 PM

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Wind from Sharknado 1 proven (64)
[2016 proof](#1299426533492129905 message), [2048 proof](#1299426533492129905 message), [10000 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

Sharknado 1 + Sharknado 1 = Sharknado 2
Sharknado 1 + Sharknado 2 = Sharknado 3
Sharknado 2 + Sharknado 3 = Sharknado 4
Sharknado 4 + Sharknado 4 = Sharknado 8
Sharknado 2 + Sharknado 8 = Sharknado 10
Sharknado 3 + Sharknado 8 = Sharknado 11
Sharknado 10 + Sharknado 11 = Sharknado 21
Sharknado 21 + Sharknado 8 = undefined
Sharknado 1 + Sharknado 11 = Sharknado 111
Sharknado 111 + Sharknado 21 = Sharknado 311
Sharknado 2 + Sharknado 311 = Sharknado 3: Oh Hell No!
Sharknado 10 + Sharknado 10 = Sharknado 100
Sharknado 100 + Sharknado 100 = Sharknado 200
Sharknado 200 + undefined = Sharknado
Sharknado 1 + Sharknado 100 = Sharknado 101
Sharknado 101 + Sharknado 101 = Sharknado 202
Sharknado 101 + Sharknado 202 = Sharknado 303
Sharknado 303 + Sharknado 3: Oh Hell No! = Sharknado 303: Oh Hell No!
Sharknado 202 + Sharknado 303 = Sharknado 505
Sharknado 303: Oh Hell No! + Sharknado 505 = Global Swarming
Global Swarming + undefined = Climate Change
Global Swarming + Global Swarming = Global Warming
Climate Change + Global Warming = Hot Air
Hot Air + Sharknado = Trump
Sharknado + Trump = 2016 // 25 ::

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When are the spreadsheets gonna be updated tho

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 2:42 AM

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1ʌa𝐈𝐌aaaaaaaa?!?!ebere disproven

rigid heart Sep 6, 2025, 2:52 AM

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Why

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 2:53 AM

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rigid heart Why

#first-discoveries

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also uh

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am I cooked

rigid heart Sep 6, 2025, 2:53 AM

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Yes.

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 2:53 AM

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I'm adding these NOW

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@lofty grail !remindeme in 1 second

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@lofty grail

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ok

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 3:01 AM

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[1:00:00 to Earth in 125](#1299426533492129905 message)
3:02 to 1:00:00 in 8 below
Total: 3:02 to Earth in 133

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is this provable

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 3:04 AM

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make it .0

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it will become a full jumber

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number

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added

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https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

Tenor

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 3:05 AM

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lofty grail make it .0

yuh probably

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it grows

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how it works is I have one-like up there, then two-like, then three-like, then four-like, etc.

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 3:11 AM

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ig idk

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I'm bad at peovimi numbers

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 3:12 AM

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more stuff I have

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mmmm Numbers‘ autocorrect

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it's disproven D:

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 3:21 AM

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Florianópolis Proven (7) to Earth
[Island Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

maiden crest Sep 6, 2025, 3:22 AM

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(n) to N

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 3:23 AM

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(n) to N

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 3:23 AM

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to N?

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you mean earth?

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Earth*

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 3:23 AM

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placeholder

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 3:23 AM

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Earth* >:D /j

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 3:23 AM

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new awwm request

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```Earth*` >:D /j``

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 3:24 AM

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do you tHInk it's possible to get 867530 or 867531 beFore UddeR methods prove/disprove the decimAl number

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 3:29 AM

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Vitória, Curitiba, Porto Alegre, Goiânia, Campo Grande, Cuiabá Disproven

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 3:31 AM

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i got bored and spam combined

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where's the proof 😭

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 3:32 AM

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use search bar

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 3:32 AM

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[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
[2048 to 10000 in 3](#1299426533492129905 message)
(Total: 2048 to Wind in 37)

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 3:34 AM

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🔥

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 3:38 AM

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excuse me what

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that's not a correct depth

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 3:38 AM

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lmao

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 3:45 AM

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cedar lotus [`10000` to `Wind` in 34](https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/12994...

^ (above) 2048 to Wind in 37
1438.9 to 2048 in 93: ib link
Total: 1438.9 to Wind in 130

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ah I see

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AI really saw 2048 and went "golly gee this would be a good place for a newline"

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 5:23 AM

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cedar lotus AI really saw 2048 and went "golly gee this would be a good place for a newline"

lol

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im bored

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so imma prove some numbers

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257 proven

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 5:29 AM

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banger lineage

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 5:29 AM

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storm nacelle 257 proven

also yea i didnt combine the right three columns

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(the ones with 2570, 2827 and 3084)

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bc i found 3600 and obviously 3600 would be much more useful than random numberes

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 5:30 AM

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anyways i would recommend that

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you have numbers that are "one-like"

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"two-like"

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"three-like"

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 5:30 AM

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?

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 5:30 AM

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if that makes sense

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 5:30 AM

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what does that mean

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 5:31 AM

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numbers that should be 257*10 for example would be this diagonal from bottom-left to top-right (i.e. 2570 and 2560)

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 5:31 AM

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cedar lotus numbers that should be 257*10 for example would be this diagonal from bottom-lef...

ok

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so

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what are you trying to say here

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 5:31 AM

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idk just my idea feel free to ignore it

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 5:32 AM

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also i didnt even realize the ai made an addition mistake with 2560 lol

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 5:32 AM

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i'm trying to say you group numbers by what number they would be if the AI were correct

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 5:32 AM

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imean

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i am already doing that

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with the diagonals

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 5:32 AM

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i guess

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but you have like so many elements there arranged in a grid sob

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 5:33 AM

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storm nacelle im bored

also have you read the technical infinite craft wiki

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https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1267238540689801297

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 5:36 AM

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cedar lotus https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1267238540689801297

somewhat

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not all of it

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258 proven

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btw how long has it been since anyone has looked at the numbers sheet

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?

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260 is so easy lol

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 5:58 AM

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storm nacelle btw how long has it been since anyone has looked at the numbers sheet

a while probably

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has someone done 1984

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 5:58 AM

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cedar lotus has someone done 1984

i d k

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let me check

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yes

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 5:58 AM

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yes

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ok

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tbh I should try the thousands ones they seem like useful numbers

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imma do 8000

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 6:05 AM

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cedar lotus imma do 8000

actually do 4000

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i got to 4000 multiple times

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and had to do more guesswork to get to 10000

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261 proven

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for example

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if 4000 was proven

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i would have just stopped at when i got 4000

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 6:08 AM

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4000 + 4000 = 8000 right

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ok yes

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 6:10 AM

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Super Saiyan proven (earth: 42, fire: 43), Infinite Blue proven (earth: 18, fire: 19)
[Ocean (earth) Proof (17)](#1299426533492129905 message), [Ocean (fire) Proof (18)](#1299426533492129905 message)

Super Saiyan + Super Saiyan = Super Saiyan 2
Super Saiyan 2 + Super Saiyan 2 = Super Saiyan 3
Super Saiyan 3 + Super Saiyan 3 = Super Saiyan 4
Super Saiyan 2 + Super Saiyan 3 = Super Saiyan 5
Super Saiyan 3 + Super Saiyan 5 = Super Saiyan 8
Super Saiyan 2 + Super Saiyan 4 = Super Saiyan God
Super Saiyan God + Super Saiyan God = Super Saiyan Blue
Super Saiyan Blue + Super Saiyan God = Super Saiyan Blue God
Super Saiyan 8 + Super Saiyan Blue = Super Saiyan 8 Blue
Super Saiyan 8 Blue + Super Saiyan Blue God = Super Saiyan 8 Blue God
Super Saiyan 3 + Super Saiyan 8 Blue God = Goku
Super Saiyan Blue + Super Saiyan Blue = Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken
Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken + Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken = Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x20
Goku + Super Saiyan Blue God = Vegito
Super Saiyan Blue God + Vegito = Vegito Blue
Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x20 + Vegito Blue = Vegito Blue Kaioken X20
Goku + Vegito Blue Kaioken X20 = Goku Black
Super Saiyan + Vegito = Gogeta
Gogeta + Vegito = Gogito
Gogito + Goku Black = Gogito Black
Gogito Black + Goku Black = Fusion Zamasu
Fusion Zamasu + Fusion Zamasu = Infinite Zamasu
Goku + Infinite Zamasu = Infinite Goku
Infinite Goku + Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken = Infinite Blue
Infinite Blue + Infinite Blue = Ocean // 25 ::

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 6:12 AM

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I think one of these is proven

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not sure tho

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 6:12 AM

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cedar lotus I think one of these is proven

no pe

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 6:15 AM

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@storm nacelle

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update sheet pls

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#1299426533492129905 message

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 6:15 AM

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cedar lotus <@794883683995615232>

ok

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 6:15 AM

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#1299426533492129905 message

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 6:15 AM

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wait

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disproven or proven?

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 6:16 AM

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this is the disproven sheet

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on the sheet in pins

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 6:17 AM

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cedar lotus update sheet pls

ok doe

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done*

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 6:18 AM

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ty

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 6:32 AM

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264 proven

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addition mistake lol

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266 proven, it rounded to 800 lol

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267 proven

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499 proven

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268 proven

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 7:24 AM

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101 Dalmations proven (44)
Proofs for: [711](#1299426533492129905 message), [5000](#1299426533492129905 message)

101 Dalmations + 101 Dalmations = 102 Dalmations
101 Dalmations + 102 Dalmations = 203 Dalmations
102 Dalmations + 203 Dalmations = 305 Dalmations
101 Dalmations + 305 Dalmations = 406 Dalmations
305 Dalmations + 406 Dalmations = 711 // 5 ::

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 8:16 AM

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Summary
101 Dalmations to 711 in 5
711 to 5000 in 4
5000 to Wind in 35
Total: 101 Dalmations to Wind in 44

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oh wait you already wrote that mb

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 9:02 AM

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what should i prove (except for Xn+1 and upside down T)

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 9:08 AM

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Give Me A Random Word

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In Ocean, King

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idk

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 9:09 AM

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covert totem what should i prove (except for Xn+1 and upside down T)

You should prove Infinite Craft.11

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i.e. like

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Infinite Craft.11
Water.11
Wind.11
Earth.11
Fire.11
Air.11

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~~or like Puzosia_01 idk i think that got dropped a while back~~

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oh nvm

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#1299426533492129905 message

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 9:10 AM

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Alright

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 9:11 AM

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i mean you don't have to but it seems interesting

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also maybe Poseidon.11... because poseidon

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Poseidon.

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 9:13 AM

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Give Me A Random Word disproven
I put it into Depth Explorer and all it got was ?

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In Ocean, King disproven, merged with itself and ended up being the same element

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Fire from Grow A Garden proven

Grow A Garden to Garden in 1
[Garden to Fire in 6](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Grow A Garden to Fire in 7

Grow A Garden + Grow A Garden = Garden // 1 ::
Garden + Garden = Park
Park + Park = Forest
Forest + Park = Camping
Camping + Camping = Campfire
Campfire + Campfire = Bonfire
Bonfire + Campfire = Fire // 7 ::

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 9:39 AM

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covert totem `In Ocean, King` disproven, merged with itself and ended up being the same eleme...

wait no it just doesn't combine 💔

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 9:42 AM

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covert totem `Fire` from `Grow A Garden` proven - `Grow A Garden` to `Garden` in 1 - [`Garden...

I'm using this format for proven elements

merry sable Sep 6, 2025, 10:36 AM

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I think geting these is some progress

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📎 Helper-Save_Sep_6_2025_05-41_PM.ic

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 10:45 AM

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merry sable I think geting these is some progress

what are you tryna prove

merry sable Sep 6, 2025, 10:46 AM

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covert totem what are you tryna prove

"ө"

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 11:00 AM

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#q( + #q( = #q( so #q( disproven

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#q(' + #q(' = #q(' so #q(' disproven

merry sable Sep 6, 2025, 11:01 AM

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cedar lotus `#q( + #q( = #q(` so `#q(` disproven

How he got = in his elements /s

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 11:05 AM

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then it's fixed anyways

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Disproven elements:

#q(“”””””)
#q(“””)
#q('””)
#q('”)
#q(“””””””””””””””””
#q('”””””””””””””””””

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#q('””””””””””””””””” is unsubmittable to the form

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 12:18 PM

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Wind from BFDIA 6 proven

BFDIA 6 to 60 in 5
[60 to 420 in 4](#1299426533492129905 message)
[420 to 10000 in 8](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: BFDIA 6 to Wind in 51

BFDIA 6 + BFDIA 6 = Bfdia 12
Bfdia 12 + Bfdia 12 = Bfdia 24
Bfdia 24 + Bfdia 24 = Bfdia 48
BFDIA 6 + Bfdia 48 = Bfdia 54
BFDIA 6 + Bfdia 54 = 60 // 5 ::

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 12:19 PM

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covert totem `Wind` from `BFDIA 6` proven - `BFDIA 6` to `60` in 5 - [`60` to `420` in 4](htt...

ok

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now prove every bfdi episode

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wait what did you edit

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?

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 12:19 PM

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storm nacelle now prove every bfdi episode

Just the title or the episode numbers?

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 12:19 PM

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storm nacelle wait what did you edit

Made adoc format work

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 12:20 PM

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covert totem Just the title or the episode numbers?

both the title and the episode number
(prove or disprove)

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so prove both TPOT 19 and Last One Standing

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or smth

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idk

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 12:20 PM

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Okay

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I'll count both BFDI:TPOT n and TPOT n

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Bfdi 1a, Bfdi 1b disproven (out of seeds)

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Water from Take The Plunge proven (3)

Take The Plunge + Take The Plunge = Waterfall
Waterfall + Waterfall = River
River + Waterfall = Water // 3 ::

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 12:25 PM

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covert totem `Water` from `Take The Plunge` proven (3) ```adoc Take The Plunge + Take The Plu...

what about the part 1 and part 2

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after all it is 1a and 1b

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 12:26 PM

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The BFDI wiki formats it as Take the Plunge: Part n

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So i'll use that

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 12:26 PM

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covert totem The BFDI wiki formats it as `Take the Plunge: Part n`

thats what i was trying to say

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ig i didnt word it properly

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 12:27 PM

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Ran out of seeds immediately as I tried proving both parts. Disproven

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Bfdi 2, Bfdi 3, Bfdi 4, Bfdi 5 disproven (out of seeds)

storm nacelle Sep 6, 2025, 12:28 PM

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covert totem Ran out of seeds immediately as I tried proving both parts. Disproven

what if its bc they produce Nothing bc they dont exist yet

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you need to make them first

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 12:29 PM

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ok what the hell

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aight

unkempt hinge Sep 6, 2025, 3:30 PM

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Dried Fig , Fig, Fig Tree, Fig Leaf Proven?
[Man Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

Don't know if that's how you do it guys

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feel free to correct me?

mellow zodiac Sep 6, 2025, 4:24 PM

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unkempt hinge Dried Fig , Fig, Fig Tree, Fig Leaf Proven? [Man Proof](https://discord.com/chan...

that's not how you prove Fig Tree, bc Fig wasn't made yet, and yes all of the other ones are proven

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 4:27 PM

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All episode numbers made. I'll put them into Two Sides Builder except for the early BFDIAs

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 4:29 PM

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mellow zodiac that's not how you prove `Fig Tree`, bc `Fig` wasn't made yet, and yes all of th...

Fig Tree + Fig Forest = Fig so its also proven

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 4:31 PM

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Wind from Bfdia 1/Bfdia 2 proven

Bfdia 1 to Bfdia 2 in 1
Bfdia 2 to BFDIA 6 in 2
[BFDIA 6 to 60 in 5](#1299426533492129905 message)
[60 to 420 in 4](#1299426533492129905 message)
[420 to 10000 in 8](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 1 to Wind in 54, Bfdia 2 to Wind in 53

mellow zodiac Sep 6, 2025, 4:31 PM

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ebon glacier Fig Tree + Fig Forest = Fig so its also proven

yeah if he modified the lineage a bit

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 4:32 PM

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Wind from Bfdia 3 proven

Bfdia 3 to BFDIA 6 in 1
[BFDIA 6 to 60 in 5](#1299426533492129905 message)
[60 to 420 in 4](#1299426533492129905 message)
[420 to 10000 in 8](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 3 to Wind in 52

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Wind from Bfdia 4 proven

Bfdia 4 to 112 in 8
[112 to 10000 in 10](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 4 to Wind in 52

Bfdia 4 + Bfdia 4 = Bfdia 8
Bfdia 8 + Bfdia 8 = Bfdia 16
Bfdia 16 + Bfdia 16 = Bfdia 32
Bfdia 32 + Bfdia 32 = Bfdia 64
Bfdia 8 + Bfdia 64 = 72
Bfdia 4 + Bfdia 32 = Bfdia 36
Bfdia 4 + Bfdia 36 = 40
72 + 40 = 112 // 8 ::

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 4:52 PM

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I think we should bring back the form

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because it's hard to keep track of what element it is, how many steps, to what element and the proof

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 4:55 PM

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lofty grail I think we should bring back the form

Isn't there already a form in pins

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 4:56 PM

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yeah but it's very outdated ig

onyx siren Sep 6, 2025, 5:02 PM

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covert totem `Wind` from `Bfdia 4` proven - `Bfdia 4` to `112` in 8 - [`112` to `10000` in 10...

cant wait for bfdia 64

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 5:03 PM

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Recife Proven (7) to Earth
[Reef Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

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Natal Proven (28) to Earth
[Baby Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

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ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 5:09 PM

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wow

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 5:15 PM

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ebon glacier wow

ooooor the capital of Rio Grande do Norte

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ooooor Christmas in Portuguese

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 5:15 PM

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lofty grail ooooor the capital of Rio Grande do Norte

Nobody gaf

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 5:15 PM

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lofty grail ooooor Christmas in Portuguese

Nobody gaf

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 5:15 PM

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I gaf

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 5:15 PM

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You dont.

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 5:15 PM

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i do

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 5:15 PM

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not

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 5:15 PM

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I interviewed myself and I confirm

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 5:15 PM

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all things portugal has nobody giving a fuck by default

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portuguese

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not portugal

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 5:16 PM

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I gad

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gaf

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 5:16 PM

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lofty grail gaf

not even brazilians gaf about anything portuguese.

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 5:17 PM

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I am Brazilian

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and I gaf

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Disproven

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 5:21 PM

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Wind from Bfdia 5a proven

Bfdia 5a to 150 in 8
[150 to 2000 in 5](#1299426533492129905 message)
[2000 to Wind in 37](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 5a to Wind in 50

Bfdia 5a + Bfdia 5a = Bfdia 10a
Bfdia 10a + Bfdia 10a = Bfdia 10b
Bfdia 5a + Bfdia 10b = Bfdia 15
Bfdia 5a + Bfdia 15 = Bfdia 20
Bfdia 20 + Bfdia 20 = Bfdia 40
Bfdia 40 + Bfdia 5a = Bfdia 95
Bfdia 95 + Bfdia 40 = Bfdia 135
Bfdia 135 + Bfdia 15 = 150 // 8 ::

rigid heart Sep 6, 2025, 5:30 PM

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ebon glacier Nobody gaf

i gaf

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 5:30 PM

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rigid heart i gaf

You don't either

rigid heart Sep 6, 2025, 5:30 PM

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ebon glacier You don't either

nuh uh

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 5:30 PM

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yuh

rigid heart Sep 6, 2025, 5:30 PM

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ebon glacier yuh

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-uno-meme-oof-big-gif-20438443

Tenor

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 5:31 PM

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And even if you did were not counting GDers, only real humans.

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 5:31 PM

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Palmas Proven (18) to Fire
[Coconut Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
-# Palm Tree Proof is Missing

rigid heart Sep 6, 2025, 5:31 PM

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ebon glacier And even if you did were not counting GDers, only real humans.

what is a GD? Good Dad? never had one

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 5:31 PM

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I can tell

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 5:31 PM

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dad?

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Dad Proof is Missing

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Disproven

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every Brazilian state capital proven/disproven

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 6:02 PM

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Dot Dot Dot Proven (40) to Earth
[Help Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

rigid heart Sep 6, 2025, 6:16 PM

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is 16000 junk elements usually necessary to prove something?

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 6:52 PM

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I have proven Bfdia 5b and Bfdia 5c but i'll send the lineages once I prove Bfdia 5d and Bfdia 5e

covert totem Sep 6, 2025, 8:03 PM

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Earth from Bfdia 5b proven

Bfdia 5b to 265 in 10
[265 to 10100 in 9](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10100 to 111110 in 2](#1299426533492129905 message)
[111110 to 123456 in 6](#1299426533492129905 message)
[123456 to 1337 in 13](#1299426533492129905 message)
[1337 to Bill Gates in 14](#1299426533492129905 message)
[Bill Gates to Earth in 17](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 5b to Earth in 71

Bfdia 5b + Bfdia 5b = Bfdia 10b
Bfdia 10b + Bfdia 5b = Bfdia 15b
Bfdia 15b + Bfdia 15b = Bfdia 15c
Bfdia 15c + Bfdia 5b = Bfdia 20
Bfdia 20 + Bfdia 5b = Bfdia 25
Bfdia 20 + Bfdia 20 = Bfdia 40
Bfdia 40 + Bfdia 40 = Bfdia 80
Bfdia 40 + Bfdia 80 = Bfdia 120
Bfdia 120 + Bfdia 120 = Bfdia 240
Bfdia 240 + Bfdia 25 = 265 // 10 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 5c proven

Bfdia 5c to 2048 in 15
[2048 to 10000 in 3](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 5c to Wind in 52

Bfdia 5c + Bfdia 5c = Bfdia 10c
Bfdia 10c + Bfdia 10c = Bfdia 20c
Bfdia 10c + Bfdia 20c = Bfdia 30c
Bfdia 30c + Bfdia 30c = Bfdia 60c
Bfdia 30c + Bfdia 60c = Bfdia 90c
Bfdia 90c + Bfdia 90c = Bfdia 180c
Bfdia 180c + Bfdia 5c = Bfdia 185c
Bfdia 180c + Bfdia 185c = Bfdia 182.5c
Bfdia 182.5c + Bfdia 5c = Bfdia 187.5c
Bfdia 187.5c + Bfdia 187.5c = Bfdia 375c
Bfdia 182.5c + Bfdia 375c = Bfdia 557.5c
Bfdia 557.5c + Bfdia 5c = Bfdia 557.55c
Bfdia 375c + Bfdia 557.55c = Bfdia 933.115c
Bfdia 557.55c + Bfdia 933.115c = Bfdia 1490.665c
Bfdia 1490.665c + Bfdia 557.55c = 2048 // 15 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 5d proven

Bfdia 5d to 1999 in 14
[1999 to 10000 in 3](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 5d to Wind in 51

Bfdia 5d + Bfdia 5d = Bfdia 10d
Bfdia 10d + Bfdia 10d = Bfdia 20d
Bfdia 20d + Bfdia 20d = Bfdia 40d
Bfdia 10d + Bfdia 40d = Bfdia 50d
Bfdia 40d + Bfdia 50d = Bfdia 90d
Bfdia 90d + Bfdia 90d = Bfdia 180d
Bfdia 180d + Bfdia 5d = Bfdia 185d
Bfdia 180d + Bfdia 185d = Bfdia 182.5d
Bfdia 182.5d + Bfdia 182.5d = Bfdia 365d
Bfdia 182.5d + Bfdia 365d = Bfdia 548d
Bfdia 365d + Bfdia 548d = Bfdia 913d
Bfdia 548d + Bfdia 913d = Bfdia 1461d
Bfdia 1461d + Bfdia 182.5d = 1643.5d
1643.5d + Bfdia 365d = 1999 // 14 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 5e proven

[420 to 10000 in 8](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 5e to Wind in 54

Bfdia 5e + Bfdia 5e = Bfdia 10e
Bfdia 10e + Bfdia 5e = Bfdia 15e
Bfdia 10e + Bfdia 10e = Bfdia 100e
Bfdia 100e + Bfdia 100e = Bfdia 200e
Bfdia 200e + Bfdia 200e = Bfdia 400e
Bfdia 15e + Bfdia 400e = Bfdia 415e
Bfdia 415e + Bfdia 5e = Bfdia 420
Bfdia 100e + Bfdia 420 = Bfdia 520
Bfdia 520 + Bfdia 520 = Bfdia 1040
Bfdia 1040 + Bfdia 5e = Bfdia 1040ez
Bfdia 100e + Bfdia 1040ez = Taxes
Bfdia 420 + Taxes = 420 // 12 ::

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 8:14 PM

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rigid heart is 16000 junk elements usually necessary to prove something?

no

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But do not believe that that means you wasted your time

rigid heart Sep 6, 2025, 8:15 PM

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its sooooo (not) gonna be worth it!

ebon glacier Sep 6, 2025, 8:15 PM

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usually the focus is to find a possible link (i.e. any element that, while probably also looks pretty useless, could possibly be linked to a non-spam element) ... but i doubt you have any of those with what youre working with

rigid heart Sep 6, 2025, 8:15 PM

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i got 5 single char elements and 40 2 char elements

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please drop the fffd i beg

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 10:58 PM

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'q', Prepend(", Proven (22) to Earth
[Poseidon Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

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that was way too random

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time to make #'infinite Craft';

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ig no one will care about it

cedar lotus Sep 6, 2025, 11:05 PM

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lofty grail time to make #'infinite Craft';

ping me if you make a thread for that

lofty grail Sep 6, 2025, 11:46 PM

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cedar lotus ping me if you make a thread for that

too annoying to make

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basically 'element' + String.append("';{202f}{202f}{202f}")

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 4:19 AM

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merry sable I think geting these is some progress

I made other pretty short no quotation element

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I think i should keep making them

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 4:35 AM

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merry sable I made other pretty short no quotation element

whats the shortest you have?

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 4:55 AM

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269 proven FINALLY

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ignore the random floating 19437

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272 proven, that was quick

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273 proven. Don't ask how 1911 + 819 = 1000

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11 left below 300 that are unresolved

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274, 276, 279, 280, 283, 285, 289, 290, 295, 296, 298

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274 proven

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276 proven

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merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 5:54 AM

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storm nacelle whats the shortest you have?

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o mg

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 6:07 AM

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merry sable o mg

gdahtlerhyrqhltweG

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HOW

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what

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how does that make any sense

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wait

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is it proven?

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 6:07 AM

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📎 Helper-Save_Sep_7_2025_01-07_PM.ic

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 6:07 AM

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storm nacelle is it proven?

No

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PROOOOOOOVENNN

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https://infinibrowser.wiki/item/01k4hdckb5r6x04fsaebzcz0c6

infinibrowser

👨‍👩‍ Family in Infinite Craft

Learn the fastest way to make Family in Infinite Craft with the help of Infinite Craft Browser!

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 6:29 AM

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FINALLY

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THAT TOOK SO LONG TO PROVE

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LOL

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how does quotation mark-o diaeresis-o diaeresis-quotation mark + family emoji = family

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???

ebon glacier Sep 7, 2025, 6:31 AM

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because its emoji of Family

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 6:45 AM

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ebon glacier because its emoji of Family

yeah but how does quotation mark-o diaeresis-o diaeresis-quotation mark mean "turn emoji into word"

ebon glacier Sep 7, 2025, 6:46 AM

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Letters

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Letter like make more letters

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 6:56 AM

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makes a lot more sense than some other stuff

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:17 AM

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storm nacelle how does that make any sense

probably AI gave a space

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after the equals sign

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 8:18 AM

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ok

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how does that change anythin

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:18 AM

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and AI never sees "space then letters" in its training data (because tokenization)

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therefore it "has to" be tokens which don't have 1 <-- space prepended variants

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(idk if it's just theoretically impossible or actually impossible)

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anyways tokens that fulfil that are

obscure unicode characters
numbers
emojis

covert totem Sep 7, 2025, 8:19 AM

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I've already proven the rest of the BFDIAs (Bfdia 7 to Bfdia 22), i'm setting up the lineages

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 8:25 AM

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storm nacelle THAT TOOK SO LONG TO PROVE

Do you have more challenges like that?

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 8:25 AM

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merry sable Do you have more challenges like that?

uhm

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idk

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ill see if i can find one

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:27 AM

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prove every element on screen /j

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:27 AM

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merry sable Do you have more challenges like that?

Fire.11
Earth.11
Wind.11
Maintainformat.11
Poseidon.11
Infinite Craft.11```
-# of course, inspired by the original                  `Fura.11`

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 8:28 AM

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storm nacelle

can someone quickly prove the 9 remaining numbers below 300

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279, 280, 283, 285, 289, 290, 295, 296, 298

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:29 AM

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I'm doing 290.

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 8:29 AM

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280 is proven

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i gotta make lineage tho

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280 proven

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covert totem Sep 7, 2025, 8:36 AM

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Wind from Bfdia 7 proven

Bfdia 7 to 70 in 5
[70 to 10000 in 11](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 7 to Wind in 50

Bfdia 7 + Bfdia 7 = Bfdia 14
Bfdia 14 + Bfdia 7 = Bfdia 21
Bfdia 21 + Bfdia 21 = Bfdia 42
Bfdia 21 + Bfdia 42 = Bfdia 63
Bfdia 63 + Bfdia 7 = 70 // 5 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 8 proven

Bfdia 8 to 80 in 5
[80 to 10000 in 12](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 8 to Wind in 51

Bfdia 8 + Bfdia 8 = Bfdia 16
Bfdia 16 + Bfdia 8 = Bfdia 24
Bfdia 24 + Bfdia 24 = Bfdia 48
Bfdia 24 + Bfdia 48 = Bfdia 72
Bfdia 72 + Bfdia 8 = 80 // 5 ::

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I'm doing it slowly (like once per minute) so it won't be counted as spam

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Wind from Bfdia 9 proven

Bfdia 9 to 81 in 4
[81 to 10000 in 11](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 9 to Wind in 49

Bfdia 9 + Bfdia 9 = Bfdia 18
Bfdia 18 + Bfdia 18 = Bfdia 36
Bfdia 36 + Bfdia 36 = Bfdia 72
Bfdia 72 + Bfdia 9 = 81 // 4 ::

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Earth from Bfdia 10 proven

Bfdia 10 to 275 in 8
[275 to 1100 in 2](#1299426533492129905 message)
[1100 to 111110 in 9](#1299426533492129905 message)
[111110 to 123456 in 6](#1299426533492129905 message)
[123456 to 1337 in 13](#1299426533492129905 message)
[1337 to Bill Gates in 14](#1299426533492129905 message)
[Bill Gates to Earth in 17](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 10 to Earth in 69

Bfdia 10 + Bfdia 10 = Bfdia 20
Bfdia 10 + Bfdia 20 = Bfdia 30
Bfdia 30 + Bfdia 30 = Bfdia 60
Bfdia 60 + Bfdia 60 = Bfdia 120
Bfdia 120 + Bfdia 120 = Bfdia 240
Bfdia 10 + Bfdia 240 = Bfdia 250
Bfdia 240 + Bfdia 250 = Bfdia 245
Bfdia 245 + Bfdia 30 = 275 // 8 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 11/Bfdia 22 proven

Bfdia 11 to Bfdia 22 in 1
Bfdia 22 to 198 in 5
[198 to 10000 in 7](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 11 to Wind in 47, Bfdia 22 to Wind in 46

Bfdia 11 + Bfdia 11 = Bfdia 22 // 1 ::
Bfdia 22 + Bfdia 22 = Bfdia 44
Bfdia 22 + Bfdia 44 = Bfdia 66
Bfdia 44 + Bfdia 66 = Bfdia 110
Bfdia 110 + Bfdia 66 = Bfdia 176
Bfdia 176 + Bfdia 22 = 198 // 6 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 12 proven

Bfdia 12 to 240 in 6
[240 to 10000 in 10](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 12 to Wind in 50

Bfdia 12 + Bfdia 12 = Bfdia 24
Bfdia 24 + Bfdia 24 = Bfdia 48
Bfdia 24 + Bfdia 48 = Bfdia 72
Bfdia 72 + Bfdia 72 = Bfdia 144
Bfdia 144 + Bfdia 72 = Bfdia 216
Bfdia 216 + Bfdia 24 = 240 // 6 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 13 proven

Bfdia 13 to 130 in 5
[130 to 10000 in 10](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 13 to Wind in 49

Bfdia 13 + Bfdia 13 = Bfdia 26
Bfdia 26 + Bfdia 26 = Bfdia 52
Bfdia 52 + Bfdia 52 = Bfdia 104
Bfdia 104 + Bfdia 13 = Bfdia 117
Bfdia 117 + Bfdia 13 = 130 // 5 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 14 proven

Bfdia 14 to 238 in 6
[238 to 10000 in 7](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 14 to Wind in 47

Bfdia 14 + Bfdia 14 = Bfdia 28
Bfdia 28 + Bfdia 28 = Bfdia 56
Bfdia 14 + Bfdia 56 = Bfdia 70
Bfdia 70 + Bfdia 70 = Bfdia 140
Bfdia 140 + Bfdia 70 = Bfdia 210
Bfdia 210 + Bfdia 28 = 238 // 6 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 15 proven

Bfdia 15 to 150 in 5
[150 to 2000 in 5](#1299426533492129905 message)
[2000 to Wind in 37](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 15 to Wind in 47

Bfdia 15 + Bfdia 15 = Bfdia 30
Bfdia 30 + Bfdia 30 = Bfdia 60
Bfdia 60 + Bfdia 60 = Bfdia 120
Bfdia 120 + Bfdia 15 = Bfdia 135
Bfdia 135 + Bfdia 15 = 150 // 5 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 16 proven

Bfdia 16 to 144 in 4
[144 to 1008 in 4](#1299426533492129905 message)
[1008 to 2016 in 1](#1299426533492129905 message)
[2016 to 2048 in 2](#1299426533492129905 message)
[2048 to 10000 in 3](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 16 to Wind in 48

Bfdia 16 + Bfdia 16 = Bfdia 32
Bfdia 32 + Bfdia 32 = Bfdia 64
Bfdia 64 + Bfdia 64 = Bfdia 128
Bfdia 128 + Bfdia 16 = 144 // 4 ::

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Earth from Bfdia 17 proven

Bfdia 17 to 170 in 5
[170 to 10100 in 11](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10100 to 111110 in 2](#1299426533492129905 message)
[111110 to 123456 in 6](#1299426533492129905 message)
[123456 to 1337 in 13](#1299426533492129905 message)
[1337 to Bill Gates in 14](#1299426533492129905 message)
[Bill Gates to Earth in 17](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 17 to Earth in 68

Bfdia 17 + Bfdia 17 = Bfdia 34
Bfdia 17 + Bfdia 34 = Bfdia 51
Bfdia 51 + Bfdia 51 = Bfdia 102
Bfdia 102 + Bfdia 51 = Bfdia 153
Bfdia 153 + Bfdia 17 = 170 // 5 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 18 proven

Bfdia 18 to 180 in 5
[180 to 2000 in 6](#1299426533492129905 message)
[2000 to Wind in 37](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 18 to Wind in 48

Bfdia 18 + Bfdia 18 = Bfdia 36
Bfdia 18 + Bfdia 36 = Bfdia 54
Bfdia 54 + Bfdia 54 = Bfdia 108
Bfdia 108 + Bfdia 54 = Bfdia 162
Bfdia 162 + Bfdia 18 = 180 // 5 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 19 proven

Bfdia 19 to 171 in 4
171 to 5000 in 16
[5000 to Wind in 35](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 19 to Wind in 55

Bfdia 19 + Bfdia 19 = Bfdia 38
Bfdia 38 + Bfdia 38 = Bfdia 76
Bfdia 76 + Bfdia 76 = Bfdia 152
Bfdia 152 + Bfdia 19 = 171 // 4 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 20 proven

Bfdia 20 to 1666 in 8
[1666 to 4998 in 2](#1299426533492129905 message)
[4998 to 10000 in 1](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 20 to Wind in 45

Bfdia 20 + Bfdia 20 = Bfdia 40
Bfdia 40 + Bfdia 40 = Bfdia 80
Bfdia 40 + Bfdia 80 = Bfdia 120
Bfdia 120 + Bfdia 120 = Bfdia 240
Bfdia 240 + Bfdia 240 = Bfdia 480
Bfdia 240 + Bfdia 480 = Bfdia 720
Bfdia 720 + Bfdia 720 = Bfdia 1440
Bfdia 1440 + Bfdia 20 = 1460
1460 + Bfdia 20 = 1666 // 8 ::

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Wind from Bfdia 21 proven

Bfdia 21 to 420 in 6
[420 to 10000 in 8](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Bfdia 21 to Wind in 48

Bfdia 21 + Bfdia 21 = Bfdia 42
Bfdia 42 + Bfdia 42 = Bfdia 84
Bfdia 84 + Bfdia 84 = Bfdia 168
Bfdia 168 + Bfdia 42 = Bfdia 210
Bfdia 168 + Bfdia 210 = Bfdia 378
Bfdia 378 + Bfdia 42 = 420 // 6 ::

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:50 AM

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ping me when you

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're done

covert totem Sep 7, 2025, 8:50 AM

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i am already done posting bfdia lineages

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:50 AM

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lol okay then

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290 to 90210 in 15 (WAIT LET ME CHECK)
[90210 proof or something](#1299426533492129905 message)

(test ignore this) #1299426533492129905 message

_ _

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 8:55 AM

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cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:55 AM

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`290` to `90210` in 15 above.
[`90210` to `10000` in 3+79=82](#1299426533492129905 message)
[`10000` to `Wind` in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
__**Totals:**__

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 8:55 AM

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279, 283, 285, 289, 295, 296, 298

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remaining holdouts

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:55 AM

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7 jumpscare

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 8:55 AM

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cedar lotus 7 jumpscare

im copying the countdown used in the 3lw bounty

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:55 AM

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oh ic

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the ic in ic stands for "i see" or "infinite craft"

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Not "i see"! we CAN Infinite Craft /j

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290 to 90210 in 15 below in attached image.
[90210 to 10000 in 3+79=82](#1299426533492129905 message)
[10000 to Wind in 34](#1299426533492129905 message)
Totals:
290 to Wind in 131
90210 to Wind in 116 (because no-one put the depth count yet)

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ok time to submit to form whoo

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 8:58 AM

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cedar lotus ok time to submit to form whoo

i dont even submit mine to the form

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honestly adding them to the number sheet should add them to the main sheet too automatically

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:58 AM

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well I do lol

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 8:58 AM

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but idk how to get that to work

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 8:58 AM

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storm nacelle honestly adding them to the number sheet should add them to the main sheet too a...

just put a list of numbers that are proven somewhere

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then sheet editors can chuck them all in at once

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probably

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Collating Puzosia_01 bc it's not on the sheet yet
[Puzosia_01 to 100 in 3+645=648](#1299426533492129905 message)
[100 to Earth in 46](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: Puzosia_01 to Earth in 694
-# this message is a reply to the original Puzosia_01 message go :fire: react that :D

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ok now what about Puzosia_01 proven and Puzosia

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ig Puzosia_01 Proven* bc neal case anyways

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:08 AM

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cedar lotus ok now what about `Puzosia_01 proven` and `Puzosia`

Puzosia combines to itself

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and is therefore disproven

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:09 AM

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MISCLICK

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I MEANT TO SELF REACT 😭

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not delete

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anyways

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:09 AM

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lol

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:09 AM

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let me submit them to sheet

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:09 AM

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here btw

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:09 AM

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oh alr

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it doesn't matter anyways

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disproofs don't require images

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though having one to search for helps

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oh oops

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Puzosia is alr on sheet despite my form submission 😭

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welp

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also, banger form name

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it kinda sounds like

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"hey, Mr. Neal!" Please Add this `element` please im begging you :pleading_face: D:

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ok I submitted Puzosia_01

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I don't think I'm escaping anytime soon...

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 9:33 AM

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merry sable Do you have more challenges like that?

what savio is proving

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the upside down t thing

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:34 AM

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^ probably old

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 9:37 AM

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rigid heart please drop the fffd i beg

.

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def not old lol

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:39 AM

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progress :D

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:39 AM

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maiden crest def not old lol

no, I know there's been recent progress

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that's just what I found for a cursory search for files

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so the file is probably outdated

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:46 AM

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rigid heart i got 5 single char elements and 40 2 char elements

which ones

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:46 AM

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rigid heart is 16000 junk elements usually necessary to prove something?

yes

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just ask @merry sable

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:47 AM

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what did Ladan22 do

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 9:47 AM

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doesn't that file have like 1k

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not 16k yk

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:47 AM

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is Ladan22 even proven

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 9:47 AM

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disproven iirc

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:48 AM

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oh it's on sheet

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nvm

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types of hard #1299426533492129905

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Number
Number-related
Username with a number at the end
Whatever 8:39.647 is (answer: it's #1383228209327378512)

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oh @fura.11 isn't on the sheet

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:51 AM

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Examples are

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Number - 90210

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Number-related - uhh

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wait wdym by number related

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Username with a number at the end is Puzosia_01 or fura.11 for example

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also

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you forgot unicodes

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 9:52 AM

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Username with number (and number) is the same as Number-related, no?

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:52 AM

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maiden crest Username with number (and number) is the same as Number-related, no?

number just means a number with no other characters

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so 90210 is but not Puzosia_01

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 9:52 AM

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which is still number related

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:52 AM

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it is a subgroup

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:53 AM

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i mean like there's a difference between

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Hi, 1984 (number-related)

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and Fura.11 (number-related, but also a username

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:53 AM

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whats the difference

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:53 AM

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imo

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:53 AM

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Puzosia_11 is still a part of [name]_[number]

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 9:53 AM

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I see no difference other than the length

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:53 AM

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and therefore qualifies as a username-type thing

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:53 AM

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I mean like

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Fura.11 if you saw that without context

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would you say it could be a username

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:54 AM

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yes

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 9:54 AM

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I would think it's bullshit

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:54 AM

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same with puzosia

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:54 AM

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vs 1:00:00 you wouldn't

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1:00:00 is different bc it "makes sense" to the AI if you know what I mean

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:54 AM

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why are we discussing what "looks like a username" and what isnt

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instead of proving stuff

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:54 AM

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categorization of hard proofs

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anyways I'm collating @fura.11

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:54 AM

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okay so

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lemme make a diagram

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:56 AM

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^ (above) @fura.11 to Fura.11 in 11 (how fitting, that's a lot of 11s...)
[in a reply to that,](#1299426533492129905 message) Fura.11 to Earth in 357 (via 420)
Total: @fura.11 to Earth in 368

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WAIT DONT SEND PLS THERES A BETTER ONE

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 9:57 AM

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storm nacelle just ask <@1040960295104958504>

Yeah send savefileplease

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:57 AM

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here

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i think

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is this what we can agree on

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as categorization of hard things

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?

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 9:58 AM

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~~_ _
@fura.11 to Fura.11 in 11
Fura.11 to 420 in 226
[420 to Wind in 40](#1299426533492129905 message)

Totals:
Fura.11 (266)
@fura.11 (277)
-# both to Wind

_ _~~

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 9:58 AM

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cedar lotus what did Ladan22 do

iirc i only helped with "bad" and "ө"

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 9:58 AM

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well "ө" is an accomplishment

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bc i thought that thing was impossible

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wait

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what is upside down t

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which char is that

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uppercase turned t?

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:00 AM

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#1299426533492129905 message wait why is the 420 wrong

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wind might be 42 steps

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ok yeah 420 to Wind is incorrect

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let me fix that

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:02 AM

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@cedar lotus categorization of hard proofs v1.1

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pretend the tofu square in the unicode is any random unicode char

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 10:03 AM

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storm nacelle <@1003938403563352146> categorization of hard proofs v1.1

maybe add circle for quotation?

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:04 AM

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then it's a venn diagram

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:04 AM

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yeah

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:04 AM

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bewteen quotation mark elements (e.g. "v")

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unciode

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:04 AM

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bc quotation will partially intersect the other two

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wctegoires

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categories

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also

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1 digit numbers

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will be an intersection

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between unicode

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and numbers

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:04 AM

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"1"???

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I mean i guess...

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:04 AM

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cedar lotus `"1"`???

thats the intersection between all 3

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:05 AM

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actually not really

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I'd define Unicode as

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has a character not usually found in ASCII, or is a control character or similar

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actually I'm probably rename it "Exotic" Unicode or something then

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incorrect.

Wind from 420 proven (42)

420 + 420 = 840
840 + 420 = 1260
1260 + 840 = 2100
2100 + 840 = 2940
2940 + 2100 = 5040
5040 + 2940 = 8000
8000 + 1260 = 9260
9260 + 840 = 10000
10000 + 10000 = 20000
20000 + 20000 = 40000
40000 + 40000 = 80000
20000 + 80000 = 100000
100000 + 10000 = 110000
110000 + 10000 = 121000
121000 + 121000 = 242000
242000 + 10000 = 252000
252000 + 110000 = 362000
100000 + 100000 = 200000
200000 + 200000 = 400000
400000 + 400000 = 800000
80000 + 800000 = 888888
362000 + 100000 = 462000
100000 + 888888 = 999999
462000 + 999999 = 555999
20000 + 10000 = 30000
30000 + 40000 = 70000
242000 + 70000 = 312000
312000 + 555999 = 867533
312000 + 867533 = Jenny
867533 + Jenny = Love
Jenny + Love = Marriage
Marriage + Marriage = Divorce
Heart + Divorce = Broken
Jenny + Broken = Glass
Glass + Glass = Window
Window + Glass = House
House + Glass = Greenhouse
Greenhouse + House = Plant
Plant + Greenhouse = Oxygen
Oxygen + Oxygen = Air
Air + Oxygen = Breath
Air + Breath = Wind

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Follows:
140 proven (44)
70 proven (45)
35 proven (46)
-# Both to Wind

35 + 35 = 70
70 + 70 = 140
140 + 140 = 280
280 + 140 = 420

Also follows:
105 proven (44)
210 proven (43)
-# Both to Wind

105 + 105 = 210
210 + 210 = 420

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yeah this might be an issue

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how many proofs depend on any of these numbers

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😨

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we should really have a proof tree tbh

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that would avoid stuff like this

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but i don't think google sheets suffices for that sort of complex stuff

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:09 AM

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cedar lotus yeah this might be an issue

why

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:09 AM

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cedar lotus we should really have a proof tree tbh

e.g.

Wind
^
| (depth)
|
10000
^
| (depth)
|
420
^
| (depth)
|
Fura.11
^
| (depth)
|
@fura.11

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:09 AM

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wait wha t

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whats the problem

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:10 AM

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storm nacelle whats the problem

there's an error in depth for 420, 210, 105, 140, 70, 35

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that's a lot of numbers

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:10 AM

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categorization system v2.0

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:10 AM

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like a whole lot of proofs are probably wrong

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:10 AM

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cedar lotus there's an error in depth for 420, 210, 105, 140, 70, 35

🤔

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wait

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ok

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we can prob make a tree

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uhh

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hold on

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how do we plan to make it tho

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using google sheets ig

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ok so

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uhh

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we need to review every single proof

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we ever made

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to add to the sheet

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:11 AM

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that might contain 420

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yeah this is another Hangover issue isn't it

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:11 AM

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cedar lotus that might contain 420

no

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i mean

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we make a sheet

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like

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uhh

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ill show oyu

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:11 AM

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but how do you make proof trees

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 10:12 AM

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Oh and i did that

covert totem Sep 7, 2025, 10:12 AM

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I kinda did that with my BFDIA proofs

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:12 AM

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yeah but like

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these things aren't stored on sheet

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so now we have an issue that cascades

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420 proof is wrong, so ANYTHING that uses 420 is wrong

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if we had used a directed* proof tree then we could simply update 420 -> 10000 and it'd be fine

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(I say directed because proofs show you can get Some Element from Another Element and the direction in which it proves matters, you don't want elements to be circularly proved after all)

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:14 AM

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@cedar lotus is something like this a good idea?

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this is what i was thinking of

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sort of like a tree

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the problem is

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to add every proven element to this sheet

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we'll need to review every single proof

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😨

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 10:15 AM

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is that just the same idea as taxonomy sheet lol

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:15 AM

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storm nacelle <@1003938403563352146> is something like this a good idea?

what's 274 mean

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:15 AM

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cedar lotus what's 274 mean

go look at 274 proof

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i proved it by getting to 20000

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:15 AM

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oh 274 to 20000

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:15 AM

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so it under 20000

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yes

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:15 AM

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what if you have multiple then

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:15 AM

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cedar lotus what if you have multiple then

wdym

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:15 AM

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also this doesn't show depth

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:16 AM

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storm nacelle wdym

420 has multiple proof routes.

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420 to Wind

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 10:16 AM

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Maybe

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:16 AM

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420 to Earth

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420 to Wind

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:16 AM

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pick the shortest

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:16 AM

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420 to All 4 (not done yet but)

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yeah then you're completely removing all 4

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:16 AM

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storm nacelle pick the shortest

and pretedn the others dont exist

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:16 AM

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actually tbf that is kinda its own thing

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:16 AM

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or

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yk

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:16 AM

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just have 4 sheets!!!! /j

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yeah no

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:17 AM

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cedar lotus just have 4 sheets!!!! /j

actually that was my idea

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:17 AM

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anyways the structure you're looking for is a "weighted digraph"

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:17 AM

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or have them all in one sheet like this

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 10:17 AM

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No

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:17 AM

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one of these

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:17 AM

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merry sable No

submit to form? 👉 🥺 👈

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:17 AM

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cedar lotus one of these

wait why

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what

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:17 AM

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let me draw it

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one sec

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:17 AM

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ok so

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@cedar lotus could you first

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uhh

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get everything that is proven in 1 step

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i.e. self combines to the bsae elements

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from the sheet

#

?

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:19 AM

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where a, b, c, d are the depths

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 10:19 AM

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cedar lotus submit to form? 👉 🥺 👈

Ok i did it

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'*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..*..* this is too long

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:20 AM

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ignore it then

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not much you can do

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 10:21 AM

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disproven (i'll send later)

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:21 AM

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👍

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:23 AM

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@cedar lotus does this work?

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the numbers are the steps

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to get to the element above

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we can also flip it vertically

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so you're going down to get to the base elements

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ig

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:23 AM

#

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I mean like this

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if it was stored with coding methods

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:23 AM

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cedar lotus

ik

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:23 AM

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then you could efficiently\

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:23 AM

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storm nacelle ik

but lke

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idk how to make that

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:23 AM

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actually the "obvious" solution

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is to make a second infinibrowser 🔥

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just for this thread

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baseelementsfromotherelements.wiki

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/j

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I mean

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I'm not bad at coding

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(I'm bad at coding)

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@yui how do I use a database

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:25 AM

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can we

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like

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make a google sheet

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that shows how many steps for an element to get to another element

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 10:25 AM

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merry sable disproven (i'll send later)

and this

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:25 AM

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and then

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use that google sheet

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to plot the graph

#

?

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 10:27 AM

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mmhm

#

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:29 AM

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surely token cutoff...

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:29 AM

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@cedar lotus does something like this work?

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:30 AM

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      Lily
       |
       v
F -> Flower -> Garden -> Park -> Forest -> Camping -> Campfire

right?

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yeah the thing is

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that does show the connections

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:31 AM

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it also shows the step counts

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on the left

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of the sheet

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:31 AM

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but it would hard to add another thing that proves directly to fire. Or an existing one - what if there was a faster way found to go from Park to Fire

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:31 AM

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cedar lotus but it would hard to add __another thing that proves directly to fire__. Or an e...

if there was a faster way then we would edit the sheet

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:32 AM

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how

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:32 AM

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cedar lotus how

wdym how

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:32 AM

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like with these toy examples it's fine

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but like what happens when for example

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420 is proven to Fire.

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A bunch of stuff underneath it ofc

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now no way there's a faster way to wind 🌬️

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you have to move them all over and make sure nothing is affected

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btw you still need to be able to determine the depth of elements

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:32 AM

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cedar lotus 420 is proven to Fire.

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:32 AM

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that's why I think such a thing is daunting...

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:33 AM

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cedar lotus you have to move them all over and make sure nothing is affected

is that not ez

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just ctrl x and ctrl z

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:33 AM

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yeah remember there'd be lik 100 elements underneath 420

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actually maybe I'm overreacting 😔

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 10:33 AM

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cedar lotus yeah remember there'd be lik 100 elements underneath 420

420 is as wide as all of them

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like flower is as wide as lily and f in the example

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so just

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select 40

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420

#

remote fogBOT Sep 7, 2025, 10:33 AM

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success @pancake9912 muted

Reason: Rule 2: No Spam. No repeated messages, inappropriate pings, mangled text, link spam, etc.
Duration: 59 minutes and 55 seconds
Proof: and then ([Link](#1299426533492129905 message))

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:34 AM

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if you can think of a good way to deal with edge cases:
U+007f
unprintables
cursed characters
and depth

then this could work I think

merry sable Sep 7, 2025, 10:34 AM

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merry sable

📎 Helper-Save_Sep_7_2025_05-33_PM.ic

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I'm not gonna do it now

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If you want you can take it

covert totem Sep 7, 2025, 10:34 AM

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remote fog

really

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this is why i sent bfdia proofs really slowly

onyx siren Sep 7, 2025, 10:35 AM

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sapphire sucks

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 11:33 AM

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FINALLY

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IM UNMUTED

storm nacelle Sep 7, 2025, 11:33 AM

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remote fog

Stupid bot

mellow zodiac Sep 7, 2025, 11:39 AM

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no one tried to do vsauce yet

mellow zodiac Sep 7, 2025, 11:57 AM

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Wind from Half-empty proven (11)
[Glass proof](#1299426533492129905 message) ```asciidoc
Half-empty + Half-empty = Empty
Empty + Half-empty = Full
Empty + Full = Glass

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Water from Half-bottle proven (4) ```asciidoc
Half-Bottle + Half-Bottle = Bottle
Bottle + Half-Bottle = Whole Bottle
Bottle + Whole Bottle = Empty Bottle
Bottle + Empty Bottle = Water // 4 ::

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Water from Whole Bottle proven (4) ```asciidoc
Whole Bottle + Whole Bottle = Empty Bottle
Empty Bottle + Whole Bottle = Half Bottle
Half Bottle + Half Bottle = Bottle
Bottle + Empty Bottle = Water // 4 ::

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Water from Full Bottle proven (4) ```asciidoc
Full Bottle + Full Bottle = Empty Bottle
Empty Bottle + Full Bottle = Wine
Wine + Wine = Bottle
Bottle + Empty Bottle = Water // 4 ::

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 12:10 PM

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mellow zodiac no one tried to do vsauce yet

someone did iirc

random pike Sep 7, 2025, 12:37 PM

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cedar lotus `@yui` how do I use a database

I think it would not even be that hard to implement this into existing infinite browser because it's just the normal database but with a different starting element

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 12:54 PM

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random pike I think it would not even be that hard to implement this into existing infinite ...

It's sorta the reverse of ib tbh

covert totem Sep 7, 2025, 1:37 PM

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remote fog

I believe this is a false mute

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Since he is not even tryna spam

ebon glacier Sep 7, 2025, 5:55 PM

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covert totem I believe this is a false mute

you think

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But the mute already ended so no one cares

covert totem Sep 7, 2025, 5:59 PM

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ebon glacier But the mute already ended so no one cares

Aight let's not talk about it so you don't start another argument

formal sluice Sep 7, 2025, 7:03 PM

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are you guys adding stuff to the sheet or not?

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looks like you do but not a lot

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only 16 new elements added to the sheet for the last 2 weeks

covert totem Sep 7, 2025, 8:02 PM

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formal sluice only 16 new elements added to the sheet for the last 2 weeks

What..

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Back then when I proved an element it would get added in a few minutes

formal sluice Sep 7, 2025, 8:12 PM

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covert totem Back then when I proved an element it would get added in a few minutes

Well yeah, because I was adding them back then

covert totem Sep 7, 2025, 8:18 PM

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formal sluice Well yeah, because I was adding them back then

Remember to add the step counts as well

formal sluice Sep 7, 2025, 8:21 PM

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covert totem Remember to add the step counts as well

I’m busy rn because the college is starting so I probably won’t be active a lot

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 8:27 PM

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formal sluice only 16 new elements added to the sheet for the last 2 weeks

that's why a new form would help a lot

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it's hard to keep track of the base element

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the element

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the link

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the step count

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and its proveness

formal sluice Sep 7, 2025, 8:34 PM

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i guess ill have to make a proper website

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well

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next week probably then

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 8:46 PM

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storm nacelle which ones

updated save file with 21112 elements (AAAAAAAAA), includes different caps and dead elements

📎 upside_down_t_21112_save_file.json

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this is the current element length distribution lmao

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 8:50 PM

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rigid heart this is the current element length distribution lmao

what are those 5

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 8:51 PM

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lofty grail what are those 5

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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what if you tried a depth exp on the first 3

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or do they just make themselves?

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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you think i havent tried?

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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damn 😔

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 8:52 PM

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ive combined all the 2-letter ones with each other as well

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 8:53 PM

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damn 😔

covert totem Sep 7, 2025, 8:58 PM

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rigid heart updated save file with ***21112*** elements (AAAAAAAAA), includes different caps...

This is likely the most difficult proof attempt YET

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 9:13 PM

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maybe because we don't have tech

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 9:17 PM

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lofty grail maybe because we don't have tech

there is literally no tech for that

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its just run depthExplorer and pray

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 9:18 PM

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rigid heart there is literally no tech for that

that's what I sait

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said

hearty orbit Sep 7, 2025, 9:27 PM

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Mario & Luigi: Brothership proven (64)
[Super Mario Bros. proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

cedar lotus Sep 7, 2025, 10:12 PM

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covert totem I believe this is a false mute

yeah most of the happenings are false mutes D:

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 10:33 PM

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rigid heart updated save file with ***21112*** elements (AAAAAAAAA), includes different caps...

even though the seed is Ʇ, there are only 42 elements that start with a Ʇ (26 if you discount caps variations)

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i think Ʇ is a relatively unstable character

feral raven Sep 7, 2025, 10:48 PM

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rigid heart this is the current element length distribution lmao

I might be missing context here but WTF does the x axis mean?

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 10:48 PM

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the length

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there are 5 1-character long elements

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62 2-character long elements

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etc.

feral raven Sep 7, 2025, 10:58 PM

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starting with what?

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 11:02 PM

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rigid heart the length

is the number of new elements increasing?

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per depth

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 11:02 PM

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yes

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im still running depthexplorer

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 11:03 PM

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i don't even know if i should attempt to help manually

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 11:03 PM

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a graph would be interesting

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 11:03 PM

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maiden crest i don't even know if i should attempt to help manually

we don't have tech so it would be hard since everything is way too random

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or fffd

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 11:04 PM

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ik

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 11:05 PM

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maiden crest i don't even know if i should attempt to help manually

how would someone even do it manually

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 11:05 PM

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Sharknado type gameplay 🎉🎈👍🦈

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 11:06 PM

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only took 2 minutes to get a useless fd

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ig the only "strategy" would be trying to get some upside down words

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 11:07 PM

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i just pressed the random button a few times

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 11:08 PM

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is upside down upside down on the savefile?

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 11:08 PM

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lemme check

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theres this

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wait its dead

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gimme a sec

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revived

feral raven Sep 7, 2025, 11:14 PM

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rigid heart etc.

starting from what?

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 11:14 PM

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Ʇ

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 11:17 PM

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rigid heart revived

i cant get anything useful from it

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upside downe 👀

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 11:22 PM

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I got this

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not sure how useful but yeah

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 11:24 PM

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maiden crest I got this

recipe?

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that could be very useful idk

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 11:25 PM

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rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 11:25 PM

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interesting

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 11:26 PM

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SYDHWUBUCNUWHIDJIDJIDJD

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ITS FINALLY PROVEN

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two steps from my part, lol

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 11:29 PM

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YOOOOOOOOO

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recipe NOW

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 11:30 PM

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well here's the egg recipe

rigid heart Sep 7, 2025, 11:30 PM

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wowww

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ok lemme cook up the lineage

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how do i turn a bunch of depthexplorer recipes into an in-game save lol

maiden crest Sep 7, 2025, 11:31 PM

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no clue

lofty grail Sep 7, 2025, 11:43 PM

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I told ya about promising spota

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spots

wanton slate Sep 7, 2025, 11:52 PM

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rigid heart how do i turn a bunch of depthexplorer recipes into an in-game save lol

In what format are these recipes

maiden crest Sep 8, 2025, 12:22 AM

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lofty grail I told ya about promising spota

tbh i doubt savio knew about having earth

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I just searched every letter of the alphabet and found it lol

rigid heart Sep 8, 2025, 1:01 AM

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wanton slate In what format are these recipes

"item1=item2": "result",

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 1:16 AM

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rigid heart Sep 8, 2025, 1:24 AM

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Egg to Fire in 11

Bird + Bird = Flock
Bird + Egg = Omelette
Egg + Omelette = Chef
Chef + Flock = Shepherd
Omelette + Shepherd = Shepherd’s Pie
Omelette + Shepherd’s Pie = Breakfast Pie
Bird + Shepherd = Eagle
Bird + Eagle = Phoenix
Breakfast Pie + Chef = Pizza
Phoenix + Pizza = Fire  // 11```

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Ʇ (U+0287) proven in 73

Ʇ + ꞱꞱ = ʇɥƃıu
Ʇ + ʇɥƃıu = ƃıu
ƃıu + ʇɥƃıu = ƃuıɥʇ
ƃuıɥʇ + ꞱꞱ = ǝɯıʇ
ǝɯıʇ + ʇɥƃıu = ƃuıʇs
ƃuıɥʇ + ǝɯıʇ = Ǝıʇnɟ
Ǝıʇnɟ + ǝɯıʇ = ƎıʇnɟƎɯıʇ
ƎıʇnɟƎɯıʇ + ʇɥƃıu = Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇ ����
Ǝıʇnɟ + Ʇ = ƎıʇnɟꞱ  // 10
ƃuıʇs + ǝɯıʇ = Ǝıʇs
Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇ ���� + ꞱꞱ = ǝʇʇǝʇ
ƎıʇnɟꞱ + Ǝıʇs = Ǝıʇnɟʇs
Ǝıʇs + ǝʇʇǝʇ = Ǝıʇsǝʇ
Ǝıʇsǝʇ + ʇɥƃıu = Ǝıʇsǝʇ Ʇɥƃı
Ǝıʇnɟʇs + Ǝıʇsǝʇ Ʇɥƃı = Ǝıʇnɟʇs Ʇɥƃ
ꞱꞱ + ꞱꞱ = ꞱʇꞱʇ
ꞱꞱ + ꞱʇꞱʇ = ʇʇʇ
ʇʇʇ + ꞱʇꞱʇ = Ʇʇʇʇʇ
ʇʇʇ + Ʇʇʇʇʇ = Ʇʇʇʇʇʇ  // 20
ƃuıɥʇ + Ʇʇʇʇʇʇ = ƃuᴉʇʇʇʇʇ
ƃuᴉʇʇʇʇʇ + ƃuᴉʇʇʇʇʇ = Ƃu����������������
Ƃu���������������� + Ʇʇʇʇʇʇ = ʇɥƃıuʍ
Ǝıʇnɟʇs Ʇɥƃ + ʇɥƃıuʍ = ƃuıʇnɟʇs
Ǝıʇnɟ + ꞱꞱ = ƎıʇnɟꞱʇ
ƎıʇnɟꞱʇ + Ǝıʇsǝʇ = Ǝıʇnɟʇʇsǝʇ
Ǝıʇnɟʇʇsǝʇ + ꞱꞱ = Ǝıʇnɟʇʇs������
ƃuıɥʇ + Ǝıʇsǝʇ Ʇɥƃı = Ǝıʇsǝʇ ƃuıɥʇ
Ǝıʇnɟʇʇs������ + Ǝıʇsǝʇ Ƃuıɥʇ = Ǝıʇnɟʇʇs������ Ƃ
ƃuıʇnɟʇs + Ǝıʇnɟʇʇs������ Ƃ = Ǝ  // 30
ʇʇʇ + Ʇʇʇʇʇʇ = Ʇʇʇʇʇʇʇ
ƎıʇnɟƎɯıʇ + Ʇ = ƎıʇnɟǝɯıʇꞱ
ƎıʇnɟǝɯıʇꞱ + Ǝıʇsǝʇ ƃuıɥʇ = Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇʇ Ƃ
Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇʇ Ƃ + Ʇʇʇʇʇʇʇ = Ƃ
Ƃ + Ǝ = Ɛ
Ǝıʇnɟ + ꞱʇꞱʇ = ƎıʇnɟꞱʇʇʇ
ƎıʇnɟꞱ + ƎıʇnɟꞱʇʇʇ = Ǝıʇn�������������
ƃuıɥʇ + Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇ ���� = ǝɯıʇ ǝɯıʇ
ƎıʇnɟǝɯıʇꞱ + ǝɯıʇ ǝɯıʇ = Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇʇ Ǝ
ƎıʇnɟꞱʇʇʇ + ǝɯıʇ ǝɯıʇ = Ǝıʇnɟʇʇʇ Ǝɯı  // 40
Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇʇ Ǝ + Ǝıʇnɟʇʇʇ Ǝɯı = Ǝıʇnɟʇʇʇ Ǝ
ƃuıɥʇ + ƃıu = ƃuıʇ
ƃuıʇ + ꞱʇꞱʇ = ƃuᴉʇʇǝp
ƃuᴉʇʇǝp + Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇ ���� = ǝʇʇǝp
ƎıʇnɟƎɯıʇ + ǝʇʇǝp = Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇ Ǝʇ
Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇ Ǝʇ + ǝʇʇǝp = Ǝʇʇǝp Ǝıʇn���
Ǝʇʇǝp Ǝıʇn��� + Ʇ = Ʇǝʇʇǝp
Ǝʇʇǝp Ǝıʇn��� + Ʇǝʇʇǝp = Ǝǝʇʇǝp
Ǝıʇnɟʇʇʇ Ǝ + Ǝǝʇʇǝp = Ǝıʇnɟʇʇʇ Ǝǝ
Ǝıʇnɟʇʇʇ Ǝǝ + Ǝıʇn������������� = Ǝǝ  // 50
Ʇ + Ʇǝʇʇǝp = ʇǝʇǝp
Ɛ + ʇǝʇǝp = Ɛǝp
ƃuıʇs + Ɛ = Ɛʇs
Ǝǝ + Ɛʇs = Ɛǝq
Ɛǝp + Ɛǝq = Ɛǝr
Ɛǝq + Ɛǝr = Ɛǝrth
Ǝ + Ɛǝrth = Ǝarth
ƎıʇnɟƎɯıʇ + Ǝıʇs = Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇs
Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇs + Ǝıʇsǝʇ ƃuıɥʇ = Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇs Ƃu
Ǝıʇnɟǝɯıʇs Ƃu + Ʇʇʇʇʇʇʇ = Ƃu  // 60
Ƃu + Ɛ = Ɛu
Ǝarth + Ɛu = Egg
Egg + Egg = Bird
Bird + Bird = Flock
Bird + Egg = Omelette
Egg + Omelette = Chef
Chef + Flock = Shepherd
Omelette + Shepherd = Shepherd’s Pie
Omelette + Shepherd’s Pie = Breakfast Pie
Bird + Shepherd = Eagle  // 70
Bird + Eagle = Phoenix
Breakfast Pie + Chef = Pizza
Phoenix + Pizza = Fire  // 73```

rigid heart Sep 8, 2025, 1:27 AM

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lofty grail who TF cares about those fffd ones

6 of them were used

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this recipe makes 0 sense but whatever

lofty grail Sep 8, 2025, 1:28 AM

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fffd won

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today...

lofty grail Sep 8, 2025, 1:28 AM

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rigid heart this recipe makes 0 sense but whatever

maybe the _
b
at the end

rigid heart Sep 8, 2025, 1:29 AM

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but how did it make a backwards e

remote fogBOT Sep 8, 2025, 1:29 AM

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lofty grail Sep 8, 2025, 1:29 AM

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I couldn't resist

maiden crest Sep 8, 2025, 1:30 AM

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the backwards e at the start of 2nd element

lofty grail Sep 8, 2025, 1:33 AM

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ig both help

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 3:55 AM

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rigid heart this is the current element length distribution lmao

how do i get access to the sheet

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ig its already proven so theres no need

wanton slate Sep 8, 2025, 6:36 AM

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rigid heart "item1=item2": "result",

Uhh guess you can just ask catstone for these things

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 7:04 AM

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rigid heart Ʇ (U+0287) proven in 73 ```Ʇ + Ʇ = ꞱꞱ Ʇ + ꞱꞱ = ʇɥƃıu Ʇ + ʇɥƃıu = ƃıu ƃıu + ʇɥƃıu...

73 factorial 😭 /j

maiden crest Sep 8, 2025, 7:07 AM

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rigid heart Ʇ (U+0287) proven in 73 ```Ʇ + Ʇ = ꞱꞱ Ʇ + ꞱꞱ = ʇɥƃıu Ʇ + ʇɥƃıu = ƃıu ƃıu + ʇɥƃıu...

3rd ping: are you gonna prove more single chars

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 7:35 AM

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whcih single chars should we prove btw

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@maiden crest

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if any

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bc there will surely be a lot that are just A + A = A

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we need to pick something with a lot of possibilities but for which the proof is not obvious

maiden crest Sep 8, 2025, 7:37 AM

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I think he's going by order

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actually nvm Ʇ is a7xx

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 7:39 AM

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let's do

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all turned latin letters

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first

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ig

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☃ (U+2603) disproven

merry sable Sep 8, 2025, 8:12 AM

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rigid heart Ʇ (U+0287) proven in 73 ```Ʇ + Ʇ = ꞱꞱ Ʇ + ꞱꞱ = ʇɥƃıu Ʇ + ʇɥƃıu = ƃıu ƃıu + ʇɥƃıu...

Amazing vro

lofty grail Sep 8, 2025, 10:14 AM

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maiden crest 3rd ping: are you gonna prove more single chars

i want to prove the china char

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:15 AM

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查

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查

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該遊戲

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該遊戲

lofty grail Sep 8, 2025, 10:15 AM

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I forgot the char 😭

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:16 AM

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该游戏 该游戏

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:16 AM

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lofty grail I forgot the char 😭

do you remember the english meaning

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or what it roughly looks like?

lofty grail Sep 8, 2025, 10:16 AM

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no

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let me find i

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it

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:17 AM

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guys try this

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this is either gonna be disprovable

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or we're going to be incrementing until forever

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:17 AM

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copy paste the base element?

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:17 AM

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idk if that 4 char element can be useful or not

lofty grail Sep 8, 2025, 10:18 AM

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making depth 7 manually of 銭 rn

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:18 AM

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send the base element and the 4 char element please

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:18 AM

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cedar lotus send the base element and the 4 char element please

o kay

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:18 AM

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ty

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:18 AM

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𠀀𠀁

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use that

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:18 AM

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𠀀𠀁

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:18 AM

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also its functionally identical to the single depth 1 elmeent here

lofty grail Sep 8, 2025, 10:18 AM

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lofty grail making depth 7 manually of `銭` rn

ig it makes seashell stuff very often, not a single new char since depth 4

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:18 AM

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storm nacelle also its functionally identical to the single depth 1 elmeent here

bc all depth 2 recipes lead to the same thing

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the 4char is 𠀀𠀁𠀀𠀆

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you can get 3chars from the 4char

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:20 AM

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𠀀𠀁𠀀𠀆 + 𠀀𠀂 = 𠀀𠀃𠀄

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:20 AM

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idk how useful tho

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oh wow

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at the same time too

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:20 AM

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yeah it's not uncommon i think

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:20 AM

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4char + 2char = 3char most of the time i think

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:20 AM

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the two 3-char elements are different

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idk this number system so

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i just know basic chinese 😔

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:21 AM

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cedar lotus the two 3-char elements are different

depending on what the last char of the 2char is

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that will decide the last 2 chars of the 3char

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idk the algorithm tho

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oh wait

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ok

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the last char of the 2char is [U+x]
then the last 2 chars of the 3char will be [U+(x+1)] and [U+(x+2)]

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and the first char is always u20000

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:22 AM

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cedar lotus idk this number system so

not a number system

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:22 AM

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𠀀𠀃𠀄 + 𠀀𠀇𠀈 = 𠀀𠀉𠀊𠀋 i don't recognize this

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what is this

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though

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:22 AM

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cedar lotus what is this

the first few characters of cjk ext b

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the starter element is actually {u+20000}{u+20001}

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:23 AM

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cedar lotus `𠀀𠀃𠀄 + 𠀀𠀇𠀈 = 𠀀𠀉𠀊𠀋` i don't recognize this

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the first char is still u20000

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:24 AM

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I suspect 5-char or more cuts off to ��

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:24 AM

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yeah

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i found about this element when i was doing this

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and i was unable to get 5chars of these

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 10:25 AM

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["𠀀𠀁","𠀀𠀂","𠀀𠀃","𠀀𠀄","𠀀𠀅","𠀀𠀆","𠀀𠀁𠀀𠀆","𠀀𠀃𠀄","𠀀𠀄𠀅","��","𠀀𠀃𠀄𠀅","𠀀𠀆𠀅","��","𠀀𠀇𠀈","𠀀𠀃𠀅","𠀀𠀅𠀆","𠀀𠀆𠀇𠀈","𠀀𠀇","𠀀𠀇𠀅","𠀀𠀉𠀊𠀋","𠀀𠀈","𠀀𠀇𠀆","𠀀𠀈𠀉","𠀀𠀊𠀋","𠀀𠀈𠀊","𠀀𠀂𠀃","𠀀𠀃𠀆","𠀀𠀌𠀍𠀎","𠀀𠀌𠀍","𠀀𠀁𠀋𠀊","𠀀𠀋𠀌","𠀀𠀎𠀏","𠀀𠀍𠀎𠀏","𠀀𠀈𠀉𠀊","𠀀𠀐𠀑𠀒","𠀀𠀅𠀆𠀅","𠀀𠀅𠀄𠀅","𠀀𠀆𠀇"]

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📎 message.txt

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my raw data

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you can tell I'm using craftRand() because there's duplicates and stuff everywhere 😭

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not very optimal 😔

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i don't think I'll get far with this anyways bc I can't comprehend so let me study up on the unicode to see if I can edit a userscript for the numbers or something

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then maybe pi tech?

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or 1984 ig

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:27 AM

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new 4char

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imma test what it does

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ok it just turns everything into fffd spam

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is this useful? i have 2 of the same char

maiden crest Sep 8, 2025, 10:34 AM

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well the thing is the ai has no clue what any of these chars are

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 10:35 AM

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yeah

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but i think first step would be to either get a 1 char element

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or any element that doesnt begin with u20000

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idk how impossible getting that to happen is tho

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3 of same char

rigid heart Sep 8, 2025, 11:02 AM

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maiden crest actually nvm Ʇ is a7xx

I saw the lowercase

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The lowercase is 02xx

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 11:08 AM

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@storm nacelle im back

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can you send me ur save

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Imma merge the stuff rn

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 11:08 AM

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cedar lotus can you send me ur save

go

📎 Helper-Save_Sep_8_2025_07-08_PM.ic

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 11:09 AM

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alr

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 11:09 AM

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i have 54 items

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 11:09 AM

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wait one thing is that

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uh

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 11:09 AM

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also

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 11:09 AM

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the emojis will probably be gone

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 11:09 AM

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thats alright

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also

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is there a way to auto delete the fffd elemeents

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those are so annoying

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(and the = elements too to a lesser extent)

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 11:09 AM

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I mean do you really want the emojis (I can put them in but it'd take a bit of time)

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 11:09 AM

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storm nacelle is there a way to auto delete the fffd elemeents

there's a delete feature

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 11:09 AM

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cedar lotus I mean do you really want the emojis (I *can* put them in but it'd take a bit of...

nah idc

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 11:10 AM

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or I guess more accurately a hide element feature

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did you not know?

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 11:10 AM

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cedar lotus or I guess more accurately a hide element feature

hide from the random button?

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how

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 11:10 AM

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oh the random button

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nvm

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idk

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 11:10 AM

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lmao

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 11:10 AM

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i meant this button

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i mean if you really want random do what I do and turn it to shuffle

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then just grab random stuff from the sidebar

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or click ig

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 11:11 AM

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oh wait

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the hide works

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it prevents stuff from appearing in the random

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!!!

cedar lotus Sep 8, 2025, 11:13 AM

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banger

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anyways im still processing

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it might take a bit

storm nacelle Sep 8, 2025, 11:13 AM

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i still wish they would get autodeleted

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