#πŸ‘©πŸ‘§ πŸ‘©πŸ‘¦ Base Elements From Other Elements

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storm nacelle
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and no non-numbers

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yet

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i will get beverly hills soon for sure

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obviously

rigid heart
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Remind me in like 12 hours

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It's 11pm rn

storm nacelle
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???

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uh ok

rigid heart
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I'm not on my PC lol

storm nacelle
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77777 so far

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there are no non-numbers

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and no numbers smaller than 77777

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the only other number less than 6 digits (apart from 77777) is 90210

haughty lotus
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i have 10k elements in my 90210 savefile

gloomy fox
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All numbers? (Except that one element)

storm nacelle
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yes

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its not like its possible

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to get non-numbers at this stage

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except beverly hills

haughty lotus
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im getting intersesting elements tho like 101010 and 151515 and 111111

storm nacelle
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depth 8 is currently like halfway complete

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but i have yet to create a new file with that data

storm nacelle
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also @haughty lotus 77777 is easier than 90210

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since you can get 90210 from 77777

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and you have some things you dont have from 90210

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so maybe do 77777 first

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or just import into your save

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77777 + 77777 = 155554
155554 + 77777 = 233333
155554 + 155554 = 311108
233333 + 233333 = 466666
311108 + 466666 = 357774
311108 + 357774 = 668882
233333 + 668882 = 90210
haughty lotus
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i have the element 696969 seems useful

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omg

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i got 42

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um

storm nacelle
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WOW

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ok

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77777 proven too

haughty lotus
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ok so it that every bounty done

storm nacelle
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gotta mark 77777 too

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imma do 88888 next

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45105 and 30070 proven

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Changed how the Latest Resolutions thing works

haughty lotus
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211 proven

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212 proven

storm nacelle
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Latest Resolutions is reworked again

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216 proven

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215 proven

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@haughty lotus i think we have the next 90210

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its 88888

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depth explored up to depth 8

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no non-numbers

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and no 5-digit numbers

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apart from 88888 itself

haughty lotus
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ill try later

storm nacelle
haughty lotus
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no one has even done 8888

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or 888

gloomy fox
storm nacelle
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if i reload

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(stop it)

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and then run it again

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then it starts from where it stopped

gloomy fox
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Oh cool

storm nacelle
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which is start of depth 9

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btw whats best way to prove this?

storm nacelle
# gloomy fox Oh cool

also if i change what i am checking to element B, and then go back to element A, it starts where it left off on element A

gloomy fox
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Oh so it has a memory even if you change? Noice

storm nacelle
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depth 9 on 88888

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imma check what its found

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still no numbers 5 digits or less

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this might be harder than 90210

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also no non-numbers obviously

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i am at least getting new usable numbers

storm nacelle
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@haughty lotus i got 42

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from 888888

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88888 + 88888 = 177776
177776 + 177776 = 355552
355552 + 355552 = 711104
177776 + 711104 = 248886
177776 + 248886 = 426662
177776 + 426662 = 219999
219999 + 426662 = 646661
177776 + 646661 = 242442
242442 + 426662 = 42
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doesnt seem super useful yet tho

storm nacelle
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@formal sluice can you update the userscript so that it checks for any recipes in the savefile where "X + X = X" and automatically colors X red based on that?

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thx

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Ε– proven

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oops replied to clover

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thats not what i was trying to do

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but i guess it might interest clover too so ok

storm nacelle
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and then you can submit to form after

past olive
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mkay

storm nacelle
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why do these have the same emoji 😭

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BL, BW, CG, CH, CJ
DISPROVEN (Combines to self; X + X = X)

CO proven (see attached image)

cedar lotus
maiden crest
storm nacelle
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#1398018627952967760 is apparently a "challenge"

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so let's try to prove all of the 5 savefiles

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I already proved the save no 2

haughty lotus
storm nacelle
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i proved all already

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in like 3 mins

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lmao

haughty lotus
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Oh lol

storm nacelle
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forgot to delete that message

haughty lotus
maiden crest
storm nacelle
haughty lotus
storm nacelle
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:(

haughty lotus
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wait i have

storm nacelle
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?

haughty lotus
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yeah thats in there too

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ima try bengiiwhchghi

storm nacelle
haughty lotus
storm nacelle
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ok Puzosia_12119

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idk if 12119 is special

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prob not

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but wouldnt hurt to test

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and then 42 is just bound to pop up randomly

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im running Benggwigwishingasuchus to depth 8

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its on depth 7 rn

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prob not useful

haughty lotus
storm nacelle
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not super useful probably

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but might help

haughty lotus
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ok

storm nacelle
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getting depth 10 done is...impractical

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i dont think that will be completed

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diagonal then straight

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somehow depth 10 is actually 20% done

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so imma leave it running

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@haughty lotus the depth explorer is on depth 12

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i got an element with a leading zero

haughty lotus
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ok

maiden crest
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how

storm nacelle
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lemme check

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Benggwigwishingasuchus_01 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_01 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_02
Benggwigwishingasuchus_02 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_02 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_03
Benggwigwishingasuchus_02 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_03 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_04
Benggwigwishingasuchus_03 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_04 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_05
Benggwigwishingasuchus_05 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_05 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_10
Benggwigwishingasuchus_04 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_10 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_14
Benggwigwishingasuchus_05 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_14 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_23
Benggwigwishingasuchus_02 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_23 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_45
Benggwigwishingasuchus_23 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_45 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_68
Benggwigwishingasuchus_05 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_68 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_123
Benggwigwishingasuchus_02 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_123 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_02123
maiden crest
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oh LOL I thought you meant an element starting with 0

storm nacelle
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there

maiden crest
storm nacelle
storm nacelle
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still hasnt broken 1k elements somehow

haughty lotus
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alr

storm nacelle
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poll_question_text

What's getting proven first?

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puzosia

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🧩

storm nacelle
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ya it was

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idk if useful

maiden crest
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Though given the time between 12and 13 I'd say about an hour

storm nacelle
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i dont see depth 13 being completed

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let alone 14

maiden crest
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Yeah ig that's to be expected

storm nacelle
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th

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so yea

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depth 13 prob not getting complete

maiden crest
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Also lol I didn't realise (until now) that 13 was only 40% completed... Thought it was 100%

formal sluice
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4096 proven

storm nacelle
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Current 88888 progress so far (up to 13% of gen 10)
@haughty lotus you might be interested

still only two numbers with less than 6 digits:

  • 88888 (the starting number, given)
  • 42 (good but currently useless i think)

no non-numbers obviously

so uhh we might have some problems with this one, even more than we had with 90210

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4k elements

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and no new useful things (except 42)

haughty lotus
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have fun with that

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ill work on 88888 in a bit

formal sluice
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3007 proven, 9021 proven, 18042 proven

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6014 proven

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1455 proven, 2910 proven

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485 proven, 970 proven

supple rune
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this board will die soon /j

formal sluice
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465 proven, 930 proven

storm nacelle
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that would take like 30 mins

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to disprove manually

formal sluice
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Banquet proven, Feast proven

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582 proven

storm nacelle
# formal sluice

allow for numbers also seems good since numbers are very repetitive
proving numbers is literally just "try every single partition that's close to 10000 and see which one works"

formal sluice
storm nacelle
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i think large numbers should be allowed with automation tho

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like look at the current progress on 88888

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literally no progress

formal sluice
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anyway, we'll wait for the poll results for now

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310 proven

mellow zodiac
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very difficult elements still includes numbers

storm nacelle
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but not small numbers

mellow zodiac
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i'm fine with that

storm nacelle
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i guess im technically fine

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although i will miss it

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since i used it to prove 189 (which would likely be a pain otherwise)

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(see here)

formal sluice
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291 proven

storm nacelle
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ig this is how ill prove numbers again

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(depth explorer but manual)

maiden crest
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Small amounts of automation are fine (imo)
For example, with Fura.11
Without depth explorer I doubt we would've proved it that quick

storm nacelle
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like just try every combination that could make 10000

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saves so much time

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but if it is banned

storm nacelle
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(this method does probably require a lot of years are proven)

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(so i should prove like 2003, 2004 and 2006 using automation before it gets banned if ever)

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i also keep accidentally doing this while trying to type depthExplorer() in the console lmao

maiden crest
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The main argument I see here is that it takes away the fun.
But honestly, it doesn't really affect anyone, since this bounty doesn't have a set goal anyways

storm nacelle
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i mean the main goals

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are the prove the hard things

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and the hard things

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need automation probably

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also i never saw proving numbers as "fun

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its just kinda annoying

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when the ai doesnt do what you want it to

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i just have nothing else to do (i dont really play much other than this game)

maiden crest
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Yeah I see the number project more as wanting completion

storm nacelle
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at least up to 1000 probably

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then i will stop

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maybe

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"(in(ter))dependence" all disproven

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also @maiden crest sry for ping how to make enquoted elements work in depth checker?

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when you try to make them the base elements they just kinda break the quotation mark formatting thing

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that marks that element name as a string

maiden crest
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Escape the quotes with backslahses

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So "a" would be \"a\"

storm nacelle
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thx

maiden crest
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Backslashes are inside the outer quotes btw

storm nacelle
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ik

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im trying it on "!"

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to test

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i found what will probably be a very painful one to prove

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since you have to revive every single element you gt

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i am not doing that πŸ’€

ebon glacier
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not like that'll end up being a proof

storm nacelle
formal sluice
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Action proven

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Equilibrium proven

ebon glacier
# storm nacelle *being proven

being proven references the action, being a proof references the thing to come out of the action .. doesn't really matter which since it's the same end

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This is videoplayback β€” a premium type of oil

storm nacelle
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Hither proven

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oh wait

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that doesnt prove yon

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oops

formal sluice
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Actor proven

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Farther proven

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Yonder proven

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Glasses proven

storm nacelle
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also @here sorry for ping but here is a fun non-number challenge
kinda like 'v'
it is "Σ©"

I tried to disprove this thing manually but then I got " and "ΓΆ" and then I was like "this is not possible to disprove"

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btw the backslashes just mean the element is enquoted

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the depth explorer is 33% of the way through depth 10

formal sluice
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Adage proven

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Adults proven, Children proven

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Adobe proven

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Advice proven

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Aim proven

velvet cobalt
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πŸ’©Stool proven

formal sluice
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Angular proven

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Alcatraz proven

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Ale proven, Barley proven

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Ally proven

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All proven

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All Star proven, Super Star proven

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Alt proven

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Alps proven

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Matterhorn proven

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Amaranth proven

cedar lotus
# formal sluice

I polled this a while back and the reults were like No aboslutely not

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but im not big so uh

formal sluice
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Amateur proven

cedar lotus
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filter out stuff that "might not work" somehow?

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like heuristically rate elements based on how useful they are and then randomly choose those

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that way you only match, for example, 1/2 of the elements

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while getting to higher depths

formal sluice
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Professional proven

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Expert disproven, Jedi disproven

feral raven
haughty lotus
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Sesame proven and Sesame Street disproven

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Spin-off disproven and Crossover disproven

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Sequel proven

storm nacelle
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Do you think 90210 will be proven?

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total_votes

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Yes

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1234155270163398737

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yes_l

icy sedge
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poll_question_text

will 10935 ever be proven?

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total_votes

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victor_answer_id

3

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h (results)

formal sluice
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Anger disproven. Rage disproven, Fury disproven

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Angry disproven

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Asylum proven, Mental Hospital proven

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Apartment proven

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Apology proven, Forgiveness proven

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Applet proven

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Arctic proven

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Valet disproven

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Arms disproven, Hands disproven

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Article proven, Encyclopedia proven

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At Home proven

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Harlequin proven

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Atom Bomb proven

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Atomic proven

formal sluice
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Attract proven

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Author proven

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Aunt proven, Uncle proven, Nephew proven

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Vow disproven, Oath disproven, Promise disproven

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Azure proven

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Horizon proven, Sunset proven, Sunrise proven

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Baked Stone proven, Baked Brick proven, Brick Wall proven

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Stoned proven

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Travel proven

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Bag proven, Luggage proven, Suitcase proven

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901 proven

storm nacelle
formal sluice
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Thirteen proven

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Bakers proven

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665 proven

storm nacelle
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38 (38 Is A Multiple Of 19) proven

formal sluice
# formal sluice
poll_question_text

Ban automation in this thread?

victor_answer_votes

5

total_votes

8

victor_answer_id

3

victor_answer_text

Only allow for very difficult elements

victor_answer_emoji_name

🈲

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Banana Bread proven

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Barter proven, Economy proven

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Copper Bar proven, Copper Ingot proven

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Beaker proven, Test Tube proven

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Beast disproven

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Bid proven, Auction proven

formal sluice
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Blt proven

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Block proven

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Wind from Blow proven (1)

lofty grail
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川 Might help a lot

formal sluice
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uh rule 5

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/j

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someone disprove Python please

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Boxy proven, Crate proven

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Breadth proven

smoky quiver
formal sluice
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Breathe proven

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Wind from Breeze proven (1)

smoky quiver
formal sluice
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🦐

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shrimplied

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Brent disproven

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Brine proven

smoky quiver
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if i voted on the poll i would have voted to not ban automation

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and how does banning it work? someone could easily use automation and then lie and say they didnt use it

storm nacelle
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yuh

smoky quiver
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if it was banned and someone used automation, would u guys ignore the proof or something

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u would have to add it to the sheet anywayd

storm nacelle
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surely not

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right?

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its still a proof

formal sluice
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@supple rune pin this message please

smoky quiver
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why?

storm nacelle
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it makes no sense

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this is what i was saying

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i would have said "at least allow for elements with numbers"

lofty grail
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maybe yeah

formal sluice
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Briefcase proven

smoky quiver
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not only can't u ignore automated proofs and u can't know if someone used automation, "very difficult elements" is also subjective

storm nacelle
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yup

lofty grail
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because who's making a manual depth exploration for idk 9148

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but for example

storm nacelle
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i mean I feel like "Σ©" is difficult

formal sluice
storm nacelle
formal sluice
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Bro proven

lofty grail
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for those Chinese characters, it helps, but it's nothing a human couldn't do

smoky quiver
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and if the ban wont be enforced in any way is it even a ban

formal sluice
lofty grail
smoky quiver
lofty grail
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then you'd be wrong

smoky quiver
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yeah but so what, the proof gets added to the sheet anyways

storm nacelle
maiden crest
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I change my mind given some more thought

storm nacelle
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All elements with numbers includes stuff like 1j

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btw

formal sluice
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Brimstone proven

storm nacelle
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All elements with ONLY numbers as chars include like 90210

smoky quiver
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how will the ban be enforced gameroman

lofty grail
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I see no point in using it on every number, since some numbers are easier to prove than other ones, and we also know number techs

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like pi

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42

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80085

formal sluice
lofty grail
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binary code

smoky quiver
lofty grail
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404

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etc

maiden crest
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I mean seeing no point isn't exactly grounds to ban it

storm nacelle
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like who is going to use it to prove 200 lmao

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but the ones that are annoying

lofty grail
storm nacelle
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i challenge you to prove 88888 by hand

storm nacelle
smoky quiver
lofty grail
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idk

storm nacelle
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189 could be hard considering it has no proof before depth 8

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that will take a long time to find manually

lofty grail
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but depth 8 proofs are rare

maiden crest
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  • There's no set goal in this bounty
  • "difficult" is highly subjective
  • How would it be enforced? Any timeout/ban sounds excessive
storm nacelle
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especially small numbers

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and large ones

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bc small ones need to get to 10000 and that needs a lot of combinations

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while large ones need to get smaller and that takes AI randomness

lofty grail
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yeah

maiden crest
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Yeah that genuinely sounds unfun after a while

lofty grail
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yeah

storm nacelle
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i think at least the natural numbers should have some level of automation allowed

lofty grail
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why don't we just don't prove them

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if it's not fun after all

storm nacelle
smoky quiver
storm nacelle
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ok but like
say you get 235 from something hard
and its not proven
so you need to either try to prove it yourself or find an alternate route that doesnt use it (or gets another number like 42 or smth)

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so that is the reason natural numbers should be proven

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(at least up to 1000 imo)

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(and the years from 1900 - 2050 ig)

maiden crest
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Automation of some elements wouldn't affect anyone anyways
Unless you try to automate an element that someone's already proving, and that someone wants to prove it manually

storm nacelle
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exactly

lofty grail
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yeah

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but which elements

storm nacelle
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also i gotta sleep so gn

lofty grail
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why is everyone from korea

storm nacelle
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πŸ‘‹

storm nacelle
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philippines

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same timezone iirc

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or close

lofty grail
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ok

storm nacelle
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its 11:00 pm here

lofty grail
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why is everyone from asia

storm nacelle
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XDDD

maiden crest
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Same timezone what

storm nacelle
smoky quiver
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also is every number proof getting added to the sheet? (not just colored green in the number sheet)

maiden crest
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It's also 11pm for me

storm nacelle
storm nacelle
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nearby longitude ig

lofty grail
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it's noon now

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here

storm nacelle
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also these things are surely disproven right?

smoky quiver
# storm nacelle `38 (38 Is A Multiple Of 19)` proven

how does an editor even add stuff to the sheet without taking forever
if they want to add this for example they have to search up the steps needed for 190 proof and add the steps to get to it, which takes time for each thing an editor wants to add

storm nacelle
rigid heart
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S to Earth in 13

Snake + Snake = Hydra
Hydra + Snake = Medusa
Hydra + Medusa = Gorgon
Gorgon + S = Gorgons
Gorgon + Gorgons = Gorgonzola
Gorgon + Gorgonzola = Cheese
Cheese + Medusa = Stone
S + Stone = Scone
Scone + Stone = Stonehenge
Cheese + Stonehenge = Moon
Moon + Moon = Planet 
Moon + Planet = Earth  // 13```
merry sable
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Also isn't it more optimal to proof numbers from the largest?

storm nacelle
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so you could just prove all of that large number's factors quickly

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instead of proving the large one

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(exceptions are years between 1900 and 2050)

smoky quiver
# storm nacelle

its possible at least one of them would be proven due to ai randomness
so u cant assume theyre disproven without checking

maiden crest
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Ok unlike what 0x16c said, I'm actually gonna go to bed now lol

storm nacelle
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(which appear in unrelated proofs)

storm nacelle
storm nacelle
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πŸ‘‹

smoky quiver
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u cant mark as disproven by guessing

merry sable
formal sluice
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237 proven

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474 proven

lofty grail
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back on track

formal sluice
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711 proven

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713 proven

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714 proven

hearty orbit
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Do you automate these?

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Or manually

formal sluice
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manually

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i dont use automation here

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its boring

supple rune
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bruh why would you automate this 😭

formal sluice
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709 proven

supple rune
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(responding to the poll earlier)

formal sluice
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708 proven

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1414 proven

hearty orbit
formal sluice
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1428 proven

mellow zodiac
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agh i'm so sleepy

formal sluice
mellow zodiac
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its 11:26 pm for me

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and i still can't prove my element

formal sluice
mellow zodiac
formal sluice
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1573 proven

rigid heart
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???? does the U+007F line just dissapear when the sorting updates??

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i literally just added it

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then the sorting updated and it dissapeared

formal sluice
rigid heart
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it worked (somehow)

formal sluice
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343 proven, 686 proven

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687 proven

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229 proven

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1374 proven

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2748 proven

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2749 proven

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2775 proven, 5550 proven

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925 proven

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1373 proven, 2746 proven

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919 proven, 2757 proven

rigid heart
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 (U+007F) to Earth in 12

2 eyes + 2 eyes = 4 Eyes
2 eyes + 4 Eyes = 6 Eyes
4 Eyes + 6 Eyes = 10 Eyes
10 Eyes + 4 Eyes = 14 Eyes
10 Eyes + 14 Eyes = 24 Eyes
24 Eyes +  = 24 Hours
24 Hours + 24 Hours = Day
24 Hours + Day = Night
Night + Night = Moon
Moon + Moon = Planet
Moon + Planet = Earth  // 12```
rigid heart
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where do i get this script btw

lofty grail
rigid heart
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the one with the codepoints

lofty grail
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if you want to work with codepoints principally you can use uhe's tooltips

rigid heart
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??

lofty grail
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in this case I'm using sandu's tooltips since it has translations

rigid heart
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ok well where do i get it

lofty grail
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I always use this one

rigid heart
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thx

formal sluice
# lofty grail

@graceful swift could you add tooltips to helper please

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or should i try make a pr adding them?

formal sluice
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Brainstorm proven

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Bravery proven, Courage proven, Brave proven

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Broadway proven

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Bronium proven

#

Brute proven

#

Candy disproven, Lollipop disproven

smoky quiver
#

btw

#

what if, theoretically, 10000 gets optimized

#

its an element a lot of other elements rely on, and if it got optimised, a lot of other elements would also get optimized

#

however we dont keep track of what elements rely on it

formal sluice
#

Escape proven, Captured proven

smoky quiver
#

the way we are doing this makes it impossible for that to happen

formal sluice
#

step count doesnt matter that much for most elements

smoky quiver
#

but it is still listed right?

formal sluice
#

we dont even have step count for most elements rn

#

Carnation proven

smoky quiver
formal sluice
#

because noone cares ig

smoky quiver
#

so i guess it is cuz no one is willing to edit it in

formal sluice
smoky quiver
#

but do all of the elements posted here at least get added and linked in the sheet, even if the steps arent mentioned?

formal sluice
formal sluice
#

Caveman proven

smoky quiver
#

theoretically it would be better if it was more organized but yeah that takes more work

formal sluice
#

Caw proven

#

Cap proven, Hat proven, Top Hat proven, Bowler Hat proven

smoky quiver
#

maybe people who post here could at least start doing this thing again:
Earth from Example proven (69)
Example2 proof

formal sluice
#

it takes time to count and link

smoky quiver
hearty orbit
#

You can add a msg link requirement in the form

#

I dont think step count is that important

smoky quiver
#

do ppl use the form btw

formal sluice
formal sluice
#

but rarely

#

i check it from time to time

hearty orbit
#

Do think not added to the form get added?

#

Ok wait that sentence sucks

formal sluice
#

i try to add everything sent here

hearty orbit
#

πŸ‘

smoky quiver
#

i wonder if there is somehow better ways to make this more efficient/optimized

#

for example using something else than google sheets, or anything like that

formal sluice
#

probably

#

but sheet works now so we use it

#

i might make something later

#

like a website with db or something

#

but for now what we have works

#

anybody wanna try prove Sorcerer? seems doable

smoky quiver
#

or if we can come up with a way that would let us edit all the steps of elements that rely on something like 10000

#

@formal sluice is it possible for a script to edit google sheets?

#

and can a script have gui text fields?

smoky quiver
#

how does ur green/red script work again

formal sluice
#

Sorcerer proven

smoky quiver
# formal sluice

is it possible for script to add something to gitlab, and then gitlab adds it to sheet?

formal sluice
#

only get data from the sheet

smoky quiver
#

ok

#

so my impossible idea was if u make a script u can type element u want to add in (in game) and it gets added to sheet

#

if it was possible it could make adding easier maybe

#

what if the sheet somehow kept track of reliances, and then changing 10000 step count would change steps of everything that relies on it?

formal sluice
#

Champagne proven, Cork proven, Bulletin proven

#

Charm proven, Amulet proven

#

Charity proven, Kindness proven

smoky quiver
#

also what do we do if mikarific decided to delete the server? this thread isnt server delete proof

#

or what if one of the posters here decide to delete a bunch of their messages? that happened in GD thread once, someone named archangel deleted some of their lineages and they were now gone

formal sluice
smoky quiver
formal sluice
#

not much we can do about that probably

smoky quiver
#

is a script that checks for "elements that reach base elements" in a lineage possible?
i mean elements that use just itself and its descendants to get to a base element
for example, the lineage:

A + A = B
A + B = C
C + C = Water

the script would say A and C

formal sluice
#

Chance proven

#

Chapter proven

#

Char proven

#

Character proven

#

Chronos proven

#

Scrambled Eggs proven

#

Cigar proven

smoky quiver
#

when i loaded this save it said loading 9993 items

formal sluice
#

Cinder proven

#

Civil proven

#

Clover proven

#

Clue proven

#

Coconut Palmproven

#

Color proven

#

Cola disproven

hearty orbit
formal sluice
#

Column proven

#

Colour proven

#

Com proven

#

Communion proven

graceful swift
#

cause i'd also need to make everything else hot reloadable

smoky quiver
#

nothing is as hot as natasquare

formal sluice
#

Commerce proven

storm nacelle
# storm nacelle
poll_question_text

Should automation be allowed for numbers?

victor_answer_votes

3

total_votes

7

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

All elements with numbers

victor_answer_emoji_name

πŸ€–

formal sluice
smoky quiver
#

dammit

formal sluice
#

Company proven, Corporation proven, Conglomerate proven

#

Compromise proven

#

Conqueror proven

#

Conditioner proven

#

Rice proven, Rice Paddy proven, Rice Field proven

#

Congee proven

#

Contact proven

#

Control disproven, Remote disproven

#

Controller proven, Console proven

#

Cooperation proven

supple rune
# storm nacelle

i feel like the decision should fall to whoever owns/manages the board

#

and not be decided by a single poll

#

my two cents: some people finally found something new to do, so please let them enjoy the game

#

automating everything just takes all the fun away

#

given most of the activity in this thread so far has been numbers

#

since theyre quite difficult to do

smoky quiver
#

one person might find it more fun to automate, but if someone doesnt, they can just stick to what is fun for them

supple rune
formal sluice
#

Corona proven

#

Coughing proven

#

Cracked proven

#

Cravat proven

#

Crayola proven

lofty grail
#

that's why we should move on to Chinese

formal sluice
#

Creature proven

#

Credit proven

lofty grail
#

also, can someone halp me optimize 付, I made a manual depth 10 exploration, but now idk what to do

#

depth 11 might take a lot of time to do manually

#

getting 火 would be nice

#

but I got no path at the momemnt

formal sluice
#

someone disprove Croissant please

#

Cronus proven

#

Ham proven

#

Crowds proven

#

Cruel proven

#

Cupcakes proven

#

Cut proven, Scissors proven

lofty grail
formal sluice
#

Cyprus proven

onyx siren
#

especially if they are really tedious like numbers

#

also i feel like you're kinda the owner of the board in a way

#

i mean you made the script and made and updated the sheet

lofty grail
#

yah I agree

#

automation should be used to the boring part anyways

smoky quiver
#

404000, 808000 disproven

lofty grail
#

Quadruple Proven (42)
[128 Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

smoky quiver
#

202000 disproven

#

303000, 606000, 909000 disproven

#

505000, 707000 disproven

lofty grail
#

North America Disproven
Acronym Disproven
Parking Disproven
Parking Lot Disproven

formal sluice
#

Dagger proven, Rapier proven

lofty grail
#

Wouldn't Proven (10)
Would Proven (9)
[Volcano Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

formal sluice
#

Dancer proven

rigid heart
#

all control chars (except for 1) are A + A = A

#

(the one control char that isnt like that is also disproven)

lofty grail
#

Shouldn't Proven (15)
Should Proven (14)
Indifference Proven (11)
Ennui Proven (9)
[Depression Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

formal sluice
#

Dead Creep proven

#

Death Laser might be interesting to prove

smoky quiver
#

363636, 727272 disproven

lofty grail
#

Shoulder Disproven
Shrug Disproven
Shoulder Shrug Disproven

formal sluice
#

Decade proven

smoky quiver
#

545454, 909090 disproven

formal sluice
#

Deep Blue proven

lofty grail
#

these 3 Disproven

formal sluice
#

Degree proven

smoky quiver
#

272727, 818181 disproven

formal sluice
#

Departure proven

#

Desire proven, Greed proven

#

Despair proven

#

Destroy proven

#

Dialect proven

#

Dialysis proven, Kidney proven

#

Dioxide proven

#

Landing proven

#

Dictator proven

smoky quiver
#

509088, 763632, 254544, 381816, 636360, 890894, 508498 disproven

formal sluice
#

Dine proven, Food proven, Meal proven

smoky quiver
#

i think 127272 is most likely provable

formal sluice
#

Dinosaurs proven, Baby Dinosaur proven

#

Disagree proven, Agree proven

smoky quiver
#

454545, 636363 disproven

rigid heart
#

Β£ (u+00a3) to Earth in 12

££ + ££ = £££
£££ + £££ = ££££££££££££££££££££
££ + ££££££££££££££££££££ = Money
Money + Β£ = Pound
Pound + Pound = Ton
Money + Ton = Million
Million + Million = Billion
Million + Ton = Megaton
Billion + Megaton = Universe
Megaton + Universe = Big Bang
Big Bang + Universe = Earth  // 12```
lofty grail
#

These 5 disproven

#

both proven

formal sluice
#

Disc proven

#

Docs proven, Document proven

smoky quiver
#

can someone check if 234567 is provable?

lofty grail
#

↑ Proven (5)

formal sluice
#

Dogs proven

#

Dory proven

#

Dove proven

#

Dozen proven

lofty grail
#

thes3 disproven

formal sluice
#

Druids proven, Druid Circle proven

#

Drift proven

#

Dryad proven

#

Dumbass proven

lofty grail
#

ΒΉ Proven (19)
Β² Proven (18)
[8 Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

formal sluice
#

Dusty proven

#

Dyson Swarm disproven

#

Ear proven, Headphones proven

#

Eat proveb, Lard proven, Grease proven

#

Ebook proven, Ebooks proven

ebon glacier
rigid heart
#

ΒΉ (U+00B9) to Water in 10
Β² (U+00B2) to Water in 9

² + ² = ⁴
⁴ + ⁴ = ⁸
⁴ + ⁸ = ¹²
Β² + ΒΉΒ² = 14
14 + ⁴ = 100
100 + 100 = 200
200 + ΒΉΒ² = 212
100 + 212 = Boiling
212 + Boiling = Water  // 10```
rigid heart
#

8 to Water in 10

16 (88) + 16 (88) = 32 (176)
16 (88) + 8 = 104
104 + 32 (176) = 176
16 (88) + 176 = 195
16 (88) + 195 = 212
16 (88) + 32 (176) = 48 (264)
176 + 48 (264) = 100
100 + 212 = Boiling
212 + Boiling = Water  // 10```
cedar lotus
#

i can scare you with 2 characters:

#

.1

#

you are now SCARED

#

FEAR .1

ebon glacier
#

Hi

cedar lotus
#

jk

#

i mean in all seriousness

#

it prob isn't that hard

cedar lotus
#

so uhh

#

um haha

#

let me clean it up a bit and maybe optimize then I'll submit .1 to form as proven πŸ‘

#

1.1 and 1.5

#

imagine proving those

#

how do you even prove decimals

#

has anyone done that yet

#

ignore this i just dont wanna reload#1299426533492129905 message

#

-# actually no decimals is probably easier than IPs

#

ok I can't optimize

#

im gonna generate a random thing that no-one will prove and automate that single element for no reason at all >:3 /j

cedar lotus
# cedar lotus
poll_question_text

should I automate it

victor_answer_votes

2

total_votes

5

supple rune
#

oh wait nvm

#

i proved 1. not .1

cedar lotus
#

yeah

#

next up i'm proving like 1.1 and 1.5

#

because why not

#

idk

#

.1 to 1 in 4 steps below.
[1 to Fire in 11 steps](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: .1 to Fire in 15 steps

onyx siren
#

Dolphin proven

#

did no one add these to the sheet? (except for Pot Of Gold and Bong for some reason)

#

they are still white

#

also Glitter proven (somehow i didnt notice it when i was filling in the sidebar)

#

Abominable disproven

smoky quiver
#

is anyone running depth explorer rn?

#

181818 is 100% possible, 234567 idk but worth checking

smoky quiver
#

Earth from 9999 proven (58)
[123456 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

speaking of 9999, guess what got proven

#

640128, 960192, 320064, 480096, 800456, 800160, 960788 disproven

formal sluice
#

358 proven, 716 proven, 1432 proven

#

1431 proven

#

Eight proven

#

Eire proven

#

Reject proven

#

Eleven proven

#

Enemies proven

#

Enter proven, Exit proven, Entrance proven, Gate proven

#

Enterprise proven

#

Ents proven

#

Epitaph proven

#

Eskimo seems provable

merry sable
#

I do that

merry sable
#

I hate this fox

#

He doesnt want to collaborate

merry sable
supple rune
#

@formal sluice forgot to add to the sheet #1299426533492129905 message #1299426533492129905 message

#

214 proven

#

228 proven, 2052 proven (...surely there's a better way to do this)

storm nacelle
#

btw @supple rune do you want edit access on the numbers sheet so you can add the things you prove yourself?

storm nacelle
# storm nacelle
poll_question_text

Should we mark elements > 499999 as automatically disproven unless proven otherwise?

victor_answer_votes

7

total_votes

9

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

No

victor_answer_emoji_name

πŸ‘€

formal sluice
#

Ethernet proven

#

Forgery proven

#

Ex-friend proven, Ex-enemy proven

#

Explore proven

#

Explode proven

#

Excess proven

#

Exclaim proven, Exclamation Point proven

#

Expensive proven, Luxury proven

#

Factoid proven

#

Feed proven

#

Female proven

#

Feminine proven

#

Fencing proven

#

Fend proven

#

Fern Green proven, Fern proven

supple rune
#

shit i just realized

formal sluice
#

Lapisfloof disproven

#

Fib proven

#

Fiend proven

#

Fife proven, Flute proven

#

Water from Fill proven (3)

#

Find proven

#

Fire from Firefighter proven (2)

#

Fire from Fire Truck proven (2)

#

First Date proven

#

First Step proven

#

Five proven

#

Twenty-five proven

#

Flip-flop proven, Flip Flop proven

#

Fluff proven

#

Flypaper proven, Sticky proven, Glue proven

#

Follow proven

#

Follower proven

#

Fond proven, Affection proven

#

Force proven

#

Fool proven

#

Form proven

#

Fourth proven, Thirteenth proven

#

Rocky Iv proven

#

Fowl proven

#

Foreskin proven

#

Fresh proven

#

Fridging proven

#

Fruit Pie proven

#

Pudding proven

#

Full Moon proven

#

Funnier proven

#

Gag proven

#

Gates proven

formal sluice
#

Pupil proven

formal sluice
#

Gecko proven

#

Geneva proven

#

Earth from Hadron Collider proven (4)

#

Geologist proven

#

S’more proven, Smore proven

#

Ginger proven

#

Gingerbread proven, Piece proven

#

No War proven

#

Chess Piece proven

#

Girlfriend proven
[Trouble proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

Girls proven
[Trouble proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

It Was A Gift From France proven
[Prison proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

Glory proven
[Fame proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

2-0 proven, 4-0 proven
[104 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

Goggle proven
[Binoculars proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

Pass proven
[Tunnel proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

smoky quiver
#

Earth from 10002 proven (62)
[111110 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

rigid heart
#

Β³ (U+00B3) to Water in 10

³ + ³³ = ³⁴
³⁴ + ³⁴ = ⁢⁸
³ + ⁢⁸ = ⁷¹
³ + ⁷¹ = 72
⁢⁸ + ⁷¹ = ¹⁴⁰
72 + ³⁴ = 100
72 + ¹⁴⁰ = 212
100 + 212 = Boiling
212 + Boiling = Water  // 10```
onyx siren
#

Hail disproven

#

its quite big

#

i also forgot Hail in this thing

#

im blind

#

The Big Scary Monster, The Bigger Scary Monster and The Biggest Scary Monster disproven

#

U+0060and U+0062 proven

#

Sailor Anime and Sailor Moon disproven

#

Cave Painting disproven

#

Footprint and Trail proven

onyx siren
#

In, Out, Inout, Inoutinoutinout, Inoutinoutinoutinoutinout and Inoutinoutinoutin disproven (the Longs are elements which took up too much space and were too long to even combine anyway)

#

Pendants proven to Fire (30) [Necklace proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

smoky quiver
#

Steampunk Pirate disproven

#

Steampunk Robot disproven

#

Steampunk Pirate Robot disproven

past olive
#

Earth from 219 proven (149)
[2000 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

smoky quiver
past olive
#

Earth from 221 proven (74)
[2010 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

past olive
#

Earth from 230 proven (66)
[9999 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

past olive
#

Earth from 231 proven (62)
[11101 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

past olive
#

40104 disproven

#

i feel like this lineage is missing some steps or im just not following it well

past olive
#

when is 300000 or 400000 created

haughty lotus
past olive
#

yeah but it’s bad practice to imply steps

haughty lotus
#

yeah they probably just forgot good find tho

past olive
#

mkay

onyx siren
#

wait no wth

#

ok i did it

smoky quiver
#

no lineage for 300000, 400000, 39960, 142142, 1260.. how many steps did i forget lmao

smoky quiver
#

so many steps just to go to 11000

#

aha, 10000 is 32 steps

formal sluice
#

in that case maybe would be even better to post a text lineage instead of an image one

smoky quiver
formal sluice
supple rune
#

.

ebon glacier
#

。

supple rune
#

could also try to edit an existing save

smoky quiver
supple rune
smoky quiver
#

Wind from 420 proven (40), 210 proven (41), 105 proven (42), 140 proven (42), 70 proven (43), 35 proven (44)

105 + 105 = 210
210 + 210 = 420

35 + 35 = 70
70 + 70 = 140
140 + 140 + 280
280 + 140 = 420
420 + 420 = 840
840 + 420 = 1260
1260 + 840 = 2100
2100 + 840 = 2940
2940 + 2100 = 5040
5040 + 2940 = 8000
8000 + 1260 = 9260
9260 + 840 = 10000
(10000 to wind here)
#

420 optimized from 131 to 40 steps

smoky quiver
#

Wind from 2000 proven (37), 666 proven (39), 333 proven (40), 222 proven (41), 111 proven (42)

333 + 333 = 666

111 + 111 = 222
222 + 222 = 444
444 + 222 = 666
666 + 666 = 1332
1332 + 666 = 2000
2000 + 2000 = 4000
4000 + 4000 = 8000
8000 + 2000 = 10000
10000 + 10000 = 20000
20000 + 20000 = 40000
40000 + 40000 = 80000
20000 + 80000 = 100000
100000 + 10000 = 110000
110000 + 10000 = 121000
121000 + 121000 = 242000
242000 + 10000 = 252000
252000 + 110000 = 362000
100000 + 100000 = 200000
200000 + 200000 = 400000
400000 + 400000 = 800000
80000 + 800000 = 888888
362000 + 100000 = 462000
100000 + 888888 = 999999
462000 + 999999 = 555999
20000 + 10000 = 30000
30000 + 40000 = 70000
242000 + 70000 = 312000
312000 + 555999 = 867533
312000 + 867533 = Jenny
867533 + Jenny = Love
Jenny + Love = Marriage
Marriage + Marriage = Divorce
Heart + Divorce = Broken
Jenny + Broken = Glass
Glass + Glass = Window
Window + Glass = House
House + Glass = Greenhouse
Greenhouse + House = Plant
Plant + Greenhouse = Oxygen
Oxygen + Oxygen = Air
Air + Oxygen = Breath
Air + Breath = Wind
smoky quiver
#

i have an idea

#

when i type out 10000 lineage i could ask awwo to optimize it

mellow zodiac
#

how is hangover proven?

#

Hangover + Hangover = Hangover

haughty lotus
#

#1299426533492129905 message apparently its proven here

smoky quiver
#

did the recipe change?

haughty lotus
#

is there any way to check

smoky quiver
#

idk

ebon glacier
formal sluice
ebon glacier
#

it was meant to be Friday + Hangover = Sick in that

#

Peasy had a lineage fixing that issue but ig is renoticing the issue lol

formal sluice
#

I guess we’ll have to recheck all the elements that use Hangover as the proof now
I’ll do that when I come home

haughty lotus
#

#1299426533492129905 message this is the only one i found

mellow zodiac
#

Earth from Katana proven (33)
[Bromance proof](#1299426533492129905 message) ```asciidoc
Katana + Katana = Double Katana
Double Katana + Katana = Triple Katana
Double Katana + Triple Katana = Quadruple Katana
Quadruple Katana + Triple Katana = Quintuple Katana
Quintuple Katana + Triple Katana = Sextuple Katana
Sextuple Katana + Triple Katana = Nine-Tailed Fox
Katana + Naruto = Sasuke
Naruto + Sasuke = Bromance

formal sluice
#

Bath Bomb proven

formal sluice
#

Hangover disproven

#

Alcohol proven
[Cure proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

Cocktail proven
[Cure proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

Barley proven
[Cure proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

Ale proven
[Cure proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

smoky quiver
ebon glacier
#

Tang proven (Tangerine and Clementine have a proof too but im too lazy to make that)

smoky quiver
#

Sandbox is disproven

#

Mario Kart disproven

#

Mario Kart 8, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe disproven

#

Trackmania Turbo disproven

#

Nadeo disproven

#

Trackmania United, Trackmania United Forever disproven

#

Tmuf disproven

#

Tmufmania, Tmuf Forever disproven

#

Tmufmania Turbo, Tmufmania United, Tmufmania United Forever, Trackmania Forever, Tmuf United, Tmufmania Forever, Trackmania 2 disproven

onyx siren
#

friendly reminder that this whole thread started from Argentum

#

#dev message

dull trout
#

[Illustrious Sand](#1269407037461233774 message) is entertaining to try.

haughty lotus
#

Tangerine proven and Clementine proven and Orange proven

#

Orange Tree proven

#

Pin proven and Needle proven and Sewing Kit proven and Tailor proven

#

Mackinac proven and Michigan proven

storm nacelle
#

38 Led A, 38 Led B, 76 Led proven
Led Light disproven

#

im honestly surprised Led Light is FD

#

and that LED Light is not on IB

formal sluice
#

Glossary disproven

#

Goose proven

#

Gov proven

#

Gore proven

#

Grade proven, Hill proven

#

Earth from Graviton proven (5)

#

Gravestone proven

#

Grammars proven

#

Grenade proven

#

Grenades proven, Grenade Launch proven, Greenade Launcher proven

#

Grow proven, Ground proven, Yard proven

#

Grunge proven

mellow zodiac
#

@formal sluice can you color proven and disproven elements in infinibrowser?

formal sluice
#

i could try yeah

#

Gunpowder proven

formal sluice
pine gulch
#

add /isproven in the end to check

#

or smth like that

mellow zodiac
formal sluice
#

should i make it a separate userscript or in the same one?

mellow zodiac
#

sure do separate the userscript

#

Earth from Sweat proven (17)
[Puddle proof](#1299426533492129905 message) ```asciidoc
Sweat + Sweat = Puddle

pine gulch
#

Actually

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should we ask yui for a database of A + A = B kind of recipe

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to prove a batch of elements

mellow zodiac
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okay i got so much ideas for the ic userscript

formal sluice
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Guts proven