#π©π§ π©π¦ Base Elements From Other Elements
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I'm not on my PC lol
77777 so far
there are no non-numbers
and no numbers smaller than 77777
the only other number less than 6 digits (apart from 77777) is 90210
i have 10k elements in my 90210 savefile
All numbers? (Except that one element)
yes
its not like its possible
to get non-numbers at this stage
except beverly hills
im getting intersesting elements tho like 101010 and 151515 and 111111
here's what i got from 77777 (up to depth 7 and partial depth 8)
of the 648 things (all numbers) 256 of them are useful
depth 8 is currently like halfway complete
but i have yet to create a new file with that data
also @haughty lotus 77777 is easier than 90210
since you can get 90210 from 77777
and you have some things you dont have from 90210
so maybe do 77777 first
or just import into your save
77777 + 77777 = 155554
155554 + 77777 = 233333
155554 + 155554 = 311108
233333 + 233333 = 466666
311108 + 466666 = 357774
311108 + 357774 = 668882
233333 + 668882 = 90210
i have the element 696969 seems useful
omg
i got 42
um
https://infinibrowser.wiki/item/01k0zptgr607s7c5hmj8vtawk8 90210 proven
90210 + 90210 = 180420
90210 + 180420 = 270630
180420 + 180420 = 360480
bc of this
ok so it that every bounty done
gotta mark 77777 too
imma do 88888 next
45105 and 30070 proven
Changed how the Latest Resolutions thing works
Latest Resolutions is reworked again
216 proven
215 proven
@haughty lotus i think we have the next 90210
its 88888
depth explored up to depth 8
no non-numbers
and no 5-digit numbers
apart from 88888 itself
ill try later
Does depth checker allow you to restart from any depth or always depth 1?
you can restart when you left off
if i reload
(stop it)
and then run it again
then it starts from where it stopped
Oh cool
also if i change what i am checking to element B, and then go back to element A, it starts where it left off on element A
Oh so it has a memory even if you change? Noice
depth 9 on 88888
imma check what its found
still no numbers 5 digits or less
this might be harder than 90210
also no non-numbers obviously
i am at least getting new usable numbers
@haughty lotus i got 42
from 888888
88888 + 88888 = 177776
177776 + 177776 = 355552
355552 + 355552 = 711104
177776 + 711104 = 248886
177776 + 248886 = 426662
177776 + 426662 = 219999
219999 + 426662 = 646661
177776 + 646661 = 242442
242442 + 426662 = 42
doesnt seem super useful yet tho
@formal sluice can you update the userscript so that it checks for any recipes in the savefile where "X + X = X" and automatically colors X red based on that?
thx
P is disproven
Ε proven
Ε΄ disproven
@lofty grail this might interest you
ζ°΄ ran to depth 8 (++ smalls amounts of depth 9)
oops replied to clover
thats not what i was trying to do
but i guess it might interest clover too so ok
locally color red right
mkay
why do these have the same emoji π
BL, BW, CG, CH, CJ
DISPROVEN (Combines to self; X + X = X)
CO proven (see attached image)
I LOVE PINGS msdfsfdsfsffsf :3 π
There's Benggwigwishingasuchus_01
#1398018627952967760 is apparently a "challenge"
so let's try to prove all of the 5 savefiles
I already proved the save no 2
which ones havenβt been proved
none
i proved all already
in like 3 mins
lmao
Oh lol
forgot to delete that message
Whatβs the emoji
π¦
have you tried 88888
no
:(
wait i have
?
42
incase your forgot
i forgott heres my savefile pretty much nothing tho
yeah thats in there too
ima try bengiiwhchghi
what was the solution to puzosia again?
#1299426533492129905 message
ok Puzosia_12119
idk if 12119 is special
prob not
but wouldnt hurt to test
and then 42 is just bound to pop up randomly
im running Benggwigwishingasuchus to depth 8
its on depth 7 rn
prob not useful
@haughty lotus all up to depth 9 in this file (they arent sorted in numerical order for some reason which is annoying but whatever)
i dont know what to do ith this
just lineages for everything below depth 10
not super useful probably
but might help
ok
getting depth 10 done is...impractical
i dont think that will be completed
diagonal then straight
somehow depth 10 is actually 20% done
so imma leave it running
@haughty lotus the depth explorer is on depth 12
i got an element with a leading zero
ok
how
lemme check
Benggwigwishingasuchus_01 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_01 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_02
Benggwigwishingasuchus_02 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_02 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_03
Benggwigwishingasuchus_02 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_03 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_04
Benggwigwishingasuchus_03 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_04 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_05
Benggwigwishingasuchus_05 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_05 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_10
Benggwigwishingasuchus_04 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_10 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_14
Benggwigwishingasuchus_05 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_14 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_23
Benggwigwishingasuchus_02 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_23 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_45
Benggwigwishingasuchus_23 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_45 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_68
Benggwigwishingasuchus_05 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_68 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_123
Benggwigwishingasuchus_02 + Benggwigwishingasuchus_123 = Benggwigwishingasuchus_02123
oh LOL I thought you meant an element starting with 0
there
still rly nice tho
here's the entire file if anyone wants to take a look at what i found
@haughty lotus ran Benggwigwishingasuchus to gen 12, i dont think there's anything super interesting but you could check for yourself if there's an interesting element you want to get
still hasnt broken 1k elements somehow
alr
What's getting proven first?
6
7
1
puzosia
π§©
wait this was correct right?
ya it was
@haughty lotus Benggwingwishingasuchus_01 ran to depth 13 (40% complete depth 13)
the last element found was [that scientific name]_6969
idk if useful
How long is each depth taking now?
Though given the time between 12and 13 I'd say about an hour
like three times as long as previous
i dont see depth 13 being completed
let alone 14
Yeah ig that's to be expected
and depth 12 took like 2 hours or sm
th
so yea
depth 13 prob not getting complete
Also lol I didn't realise (until now) that 13 was only 40% completed... Thought it was 100%
lmao
misread
4096 proven
yea i add it to the sheet, then run script sometimes, it gets copied to gitlab then userscript gets it from there and colors it in infinite craft
Current 88888 progress so far (up to 13% of gen 10)
@haughty lotus you might be interested
still only two numbers with less than 6 digits:
- 88888 (the starting number, given)
- 42 (good but currently useless i think)
no non-numbers obviously
so uhh we might have some problems with this one, even more than we had with 90210
4k elements
and no new useful things (except 42)
3007 proven, 9021 proven, 18042 proven
6014 proven
1455 proven, 2910 proven
485 proven, 970 proven
nooo you all started using automation
this board will die soon /j
465 proven, 930 proven
i should probably only use it for the ones that are annoying to disprove like that one
that would take like 30 mins
to disprove manually
allow for numbers also seems good since numbers are very repetitive
proving numbers is literally just "try every single partition that's close to 10000 and see which one works"
some people might find it fun
alr
i think large numbers should be allowed with automation tho
like look at the current progress on 88888
literally no progress
very difficult elements still includes numbers
yup
but not small numbers
i'm fine with that
i guess im technically fine
although i will miss it
since i used it to prove 189 (which would likely be a pain otherwise)
(see here)
291 proven
Small amounts of automation are fine (imo)
For example, with Fura.11
Without depth explorer I doubt we would've proved it that quick
exactly
idk why people dont want it for small numbers tho
like just try every combination that could make 10000
saves so much time
but if it is banned
then its not super bad since i have this method of proving
(this method does probably require a lot of years are proven)
(so i should prove like 2003, 2004 and 2006 using automation before it gets banned if ever)
i also keep accidentally doing this while trying to type depthExplorer() in the console lmao
The main argument I see here is that it takes away the fun.
But honestly, it doesn't really affect anyone, since this bounty doesn't have a set goal anyways
true
i mean the main goals
are the prove the hard things
and the hard things
need automation probably
also i never saw proving numbers as "fun
its just kinda annoying
when the ai doesnt do what you want it to
i just have nothing else to do (i dont really play much other than this game)
Yeah I see the number project more as wanting completion
at least up to 1000 probably
then i will stop
maybe
"(in(ter))dependence" all disproven
also @maiden crest sry for ping how to make enquoted elements work in depth checker?
when you try to make them the base elements they just kinda break the quotation mark formatting thing
that marks that element name as a string
thx
Backslashes are inside the outer quotes btw
ik
im trying it on "!"
to test
works
"!" disproven
i found what will probably be a very painful one to prove
since you have to revive every single element you gt
i am not doing that π
not like that'll end up being a proof
*being proven
being proven references the action, being a proof references the thing to come out of the action .. doesn't really matter which since it's the same end
This is videoplayback β a premium type of oil
also @here sorry for ping but here is a fun non-number challenge
kinda like 'v'
it is "Σ©"
I tried to disprove this thing manually but then I got " and "ΓΆ" and then I was like "this is not possible to disprove"
btw the backslashes just mean the element is enquoted
the depth explorer is 33% of the way through depth 10
Adage proven
Adults proven, Children proven
Adobe proven
Advice proven
Aim proven
π©Stool proven
Angular proven
Alcatraz proven
Ale proven, Barley proven
Ally proven
All proven
All Star proven, Super Star proven
Alt proven
Alps proven
Matterhorn proven
Amaranth proven
I polled this a while back and the reults were like No aboslutely not
but im not big so uh
Amateur proven
ok but can you edit the depth explorer
filter out stuff that "might not work" somehow?
like heuristically rate elements based on how useful they are and then randomly choose those
that way you only match, for example, 1/2 of the elements
while getting to higher depths
Based on the colors, isn't it Jedi not Jedi master that's the new proof?
oops ye
Anal proven
Sesame proven and Sesame Street disproven
Spin-off disproven and Crossover disproven
Sequel proven
Do you think 90210 will be proven?
4
7
1
Yes
1234155270163398737
yes_l
will 10935 ever be proven?
2
3
3
h (results)
Anger disproven. Rage disproven, Fury disproven
Angry disproven
Asylum proven, Mental Hospital proven
Apartment proven
Apology proven, Forgiveness proven
Applet proven
Arctic proven
Valet disproven
Arms disproven, Hands disproven
Article proven, Encyclopedia proven
At Home proven
Harlequin proven
Atom Bomb proven
Atomic proven
Attract proven
Author proven
Aunt proven, Uncle proven, Nephew proven
Vow disproven, Oath disproven, Promise disproven
Azure proven
Horizon proven, Sunset proven, Sunrise proven
Baked Stone proven, Baked Brick proven, Brick Wall proven
Stoned proven
Travel proven
Bag proven, Luggage proven, Suitcase proven
901 proven
38 (38 Is A Multiple Of 19) proven
Ban automation in this thread?
5
8
3
Only allow for very difficult elements
π²
Banana Bread proven
Barter proven, Economy proven
Copper Bar proven, Copper Ingot proven
Beaker proven, Test Tube proven
Beast disproven
Bid proven, Auction proven
hi ok
ε· Might help a lot
uh rule 5
/j
someone disprove Python please
Boxy proven, Crate proven
Breadth proven
how does that prove either of those
they both make each other
Breathe proven
Wind from Breeze proven (1)
thats not shown in the image tho
its implied
π¦
shrimplied
Brent disproven
Brine proven
if i voted on the poll i would have voted to not ban automation
and how does banning it work? someone could easily use automation and then lie and say they didnt use it
yuh
if it was banned and someone used automation, would u guys ignore the proof or something
u would have to add it to the sheet anywayd
@supple rune pin this message please
why?
it makes no sense
this is what i was saying
i would have said "at least allow for elements with numbers"
maybe yeah
Briefcase proven
not only can't u ignore automated proofs and u can't know if someone used automation, "very difficult elements" is also subjective
yup
i mean I feel like "Σ©" is difficult
me for example
like look at this
Bro proven
for those Chinese characters, it helps, but it's nothing a human couldn't do
and if the ban wont be enforced in any way is it even a ban
you try manually first, then if you think its difficult and everyone agrees then you can use automation
I mean, it's a rule but not a rule reinforced with consequences
what if u use automation when no one first agreed with it
then you'd be wrong
yeah but so what, the proof gets added to the sheet anyways
I change my mind given some more thought
Brimstone proven
All elements with ONLY numbers as chars include like 90210
how will the ban be enforced gameroman
I see no point in using it on every number, since some numbers are easier to prove than other ones, and we also know number techs
like pi
42
80085
by asking yui for example
binary code
how will she enforce it?
I mean seeing no point isn't exactly grounds to ban it
obviously not all
like who is going to use it to prove 200 lmao
but the ones that are annoying
that's why I selected only for hard numbers
i challenge you to prove 88888 by hand
what defines a number as hard
yeah it is subjective
idk
189 could be hard considering it has no proof before depth 8
that will take a long time to find manually
but depth 8 proofs are rare
- There's no set goal in this bounty
- "difficult" is highly subjective
- How would it be enforced? Any timeout/ban sounds excessive
for numbers not really
especially small numbers
and large ones
bc small ones need to get to 10000 and that needs a lot of combinations
while large ones need to get smaller and that takes AI randomness
yeah
Yeah that genuinely sounds unfun after a while
yeah
i think at least the natural numbers should have some level of automation allowed
*not fun
i used automation to prove 10000 in the first place lol
ok but like
say you get 235 from something hard
and its not proven
so you need to either try to prove it yourself or find an alternate route that doesnt use it (or gets another number like 42 or smth)
so that is the reason natural numbers should be proven
(at least up to 1000 imo)
(and the years from 1900 - 2050 ig)
Automation of some elements wouldn't affect anyone anyways
Unless you try to automate an element that someone's already proving, and that someone wants to prove it manually
exactly
i guess that part should be banned
like timeout 1 h or smth
using automation to get ahead of someone who's doing it manual (except for hard elements like puzosia or smth which could be impossible without automation)
also i gotta sleep so gn
why is everyone from korea
π
i aint from korea lmao
philippines
same timezone iirc
or close
ok
its 11:00 pm here
why is everyone from asia
idk bc Asia has many of the countries with the highest populations?
XDDD
Same timezone what
wdym
also is every number proof getting added to the sheet? (not just colored green in the number sheet)
It's also 11pm for me
yes
but no one has done cross-checking yet
also these things are surely disproven right?
how does an editor even add stuff to the sheet without taking forever
if they want to add this for example they have to search up the steps needed for 190 proof and add the steps to get to it, which takes time for each thing an editor wants to add
S to Earth in 13
Snake + Snake = Hydra
Hydra + Snake = Medusa
Hydra + Medusa = Gorgon
Gorgon + S = Gorgons
Gorgon + Gorgons = Gorgonzola
Gorgon + Gorgonzola = Cheese
Cheese + Medusa = Stone
S + Stone = Scone
Scone + Stone = Stonehenge
Cheese + Stonehenge = Moon
Moon + Moon = Planet
Moon + Planet = Earth // 13```
Also isn't it more optimal to proof numbers from the largest?
it takes more time to prove large numbers
so you could just prove all of that large number's factors quickly
instead of proving the large one
(exceptions are years between 1900 and 2050)
its possible at least one of them would be proven due to ai randomness
so u cant assume theyre disproven without checking
Ok unlike what 0x16c said, I'm actually gonna go to bed now lol
(which appear in unrelated proofs)
it says unless demonstrated otherwise
i should too gn
π
but u have to check before marking as disproven
u cant mark as disproven by guessing
I don't get why its needed then
back on track
bruh why would you automate this π
709 proven
(responding to the poll earlier)
ye thats what im talking about
708 proven
1414 proven
0x16c uses automation i think, at least for the harder number ones
thats a skill issue i guess
1428 proven
agh i'm so sleepy
what time is it
maybe you should go to sleep
need a couple minutes left
1573 proven
???? does the U+007F line just dissapear when the sorting updates??
i literally just added it
then the sorting updated and it dissapeared
idk try refreshing the page
it worked (somehow)
343 proven, 686 proven
687 proven
229 proven
1374 proven
2748 proven
2749 proven
2775 proven, 5550 proven
925 proven
1373 proven, 2746 proven
919 proven, 2757 proven
(U+007F) to Earth in 12
2 eyes + 2 eyes = 4 Eyes
2 eyes + 4 Eyes = 6 Eyes
4 Eyes + 6 Eyes = 10 Eyes
10 Eyes + 4 Eyes = 14 Eyes
10 Eyes + 14 Eyes = 24 Eyes
24 Eyes + = 24 Hours
24 Hours + 24 Hours = Day
24 Hours + Day = Night
Night + Night = Moon
Moon + Moon = Planet
Moon + Planet = Earth // 12```
where do i get this script btw
which one
the one with the codepoints
if you want to work with codepoints principally you can use uhe's tooltips
??
in this case I'm using sandu's tooltips since it has translations
ok well where do i get it
thx
@graceful swift could you add tooltips to helper please
or should i try make a pr adding them?
Brainstorm proven
Bravery proven, Courage proven, Brave proven
Broadway proven
Bronium proven
Brute proven
Candy disproven, Lollipop disproven
btw
what if, theoretically, 10000 gets optimized
its an element a lot of other elements rely on, and if it got optimised, a lot of other elements would also get optimized
however we dont keep track of what elements rely on it
Escape proven, Captured proven
how would sheet editors find all of those elements and list their new step number
the way we are doing this makes it impossible for that to happen
step count doesnt matter that much for most elements
but it is still listed right?
why not? we would add it before
because noone cares ig
so i guess it is cuz no one is willing to edit it in
or count the steps
but do all of the elements posted here at least get added and linked in the sheet, even if the steps arent mentioned?
i add the step count in sheet where they are counted
they all get added but not linked
Caveman proven
theoretically it would be better if it was more organized but yeah that takes more work
maybe people who post here could at least start doing this thing again:
Earth from Example proven (69)
Example2 proof
it takes time to count and link
yeah but if the posters did that, they would have to do it not the sheet mods
You can add a msg link requirement in the form
I dont think step count is that important
do ppl use the form btw
it already exists
some do
but rarely
i check it from time to time
i try to add everything sent here
π
i wonder if there is somehow better ways to make this more efficient/optimized
for example using something else than google sheets, or anything like that
probably
but sheet works now so we use it
i might make something later
like a website with db or something
but for now what we have works
anybody wanna try prove Sorcerer? seems doable
or if we can come up with a way that would let us edit all the steps of elements that rely on something like 10000
@formal sluice is it possible for a script to edit google sheets?
and can a script have gui text fields?
i dont think so
how does ur green/red script work again
^ @smoky quiver
is it possible for script to add something to gitlab, and then gitlab adds it to sheet?
i dont think you can add to the sheet using script
only get data from the sheet
ok
so my impossible idea was if u make a script u can type element u want to add in (in game) and it gets added to sheet
if it was possible it could make adding easier maybe
what if the sheet somehow kept track of reliances, and then changing 10000 step count would change steps of everything that relies on it?
Champagne proven, Cork proven, Bulletin proven
Charm proven, Amulet proven
Charity proven, Kindness proven
also what do we do if mikarific decided to delete the server? this thread isnt server delete proof
or what if one of the posters here decide to delete a bunch of their messages? that happened in GD thread once, someone named archangel deleted some of their lineages and they were now gone
if mikarific decides to delete this server we have much bigger problems than that
ok but someone deleting their own messages is more believable given it already happened in another thread once
not much we can do about that probably
is a script that checks for "elements that reach base elements" in a lineage possible?
i mean elements that use just itself and its descendants to get to a base element
for example, the lineage:
A + A = B
A + B = C
C + C = Water
the script would say A and C
Chance proven
Chapter proven
Char proven
Character proven
Chronos proven
Scrambled Eggs proven
Cigar proven
when i loaded this save it said loading 9993 items
Cinder proven
Civil proven
Clover proven
Clue proven
Coconut Palmproven
Color proven
Cola disproven
If you really want to you turn all lineages into IB links
i need to make the settings modal first which is a pain in the ass
cause i'd also need to make everything else hot reloadable
nothing is as hot as natasquare
Commerce proven
Should automation be allowed for numbers?
3
7
1
All elements with numbers
π€
dammit
Company proven, Corporation proven, Conglomerate proven
Compromise proven
Conqueror proven
Conditioner proven
Rice proven, Rice Paddy proven, Rice Field proven
Congee proven
Contact proven
Control disproven, Remote disproven
Controller proven, Console proven
Cooperation proven
i feel like the decision should fall to whoever owns/manages the board
and not be decided by a single poll
my two cents: some people finally found something new to do, so please let them enjoy the game
automating everything just takes all the fun away
given most of the activity in this thread so far has been numbers
since theyre quite difficult to do
how does one person automating take the fun away from another person?
one person might find it more fun to automate, but if someone doesnt, they can just stick to what is fun for them
if we just go through all numbers from 1 to 999999 with depth explorer then there's gonna be no more regular numbers to prove for anyone else
In that case @onyx siren whatβs your opinion on automation in this thread?
Corona proven
Coughing proven
Cracked proven
Cravat proven
Crayola proven
that's why we should move on to Chinese
also, can someone halp me optimize δ», I made a manual depth 10 exploration, but now idk what to do
depth 11 might take a lot of time to do manually
getting η« would be nice
but I got no path at the momemnt
someone disprove Croissant please
Cronus proven
Ham proven
Crowds proven
Cruel proven
Cupcakes proven
Cut proven, Scissors proven
@storm nacelle would you mind making a depth 11 exploration on δ»?
Cyprus proven
i feel like specific goals can be automated
especially if they are really tedious like numbers
also i feel like you're kinda the owner of the board in a way
i mean you made the script and made and updated the sheet
404000, 808000 disproven
Quadruple Proven (42)
[128 Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
North America Disproven
Acronym Disproven
Parking Disproven
Parking Lot Disproven
thats me
Dagger proven, Rapier proven
Wouldn't Proven (10)
Would Proven (9)
[Volcano Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Dancer proven
all control chars (except for 1) are A + A = A
(the one control char that isnt like that is also disproven)
Shouldn't Proven (15)
Should Proven (14)
Indifference Proven (11)
Ennui Proven (9)
[Depression Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
363636, 727272 disproven
Shoulder Disproven
Shrug Disproven
Shoulder Shrug Disproven
Decade proven
545454, 909090 disproven
Deep Blue proven
these 3 Disproven
Degree proven
272727, 818181 disproven
Departure proven
Desire proven, Greed proven
Despair proven
Destroy proven
Dialect proven
Dialysis proven, Kidney proven
Dioxide proven
Landing proven
Dictator proven
509088, 763632, 254544, 381816, 636360, 890894, 508498 disproven
Dine proven, Food proven, Meal proven
i think 127272 is most likely provable
454545, 636363 disproven
Β£ (u+00a3) to Earth in 12
££ + ££ = £££
£££ + £££ = ££££££££££££££££££££
££ + ££££££££££££££££££££ = Money
Money + Β£ = Pound
Pound + Pound = Ton
Money + Ton = Million
Million + Million = Billion
Million + Ton = Megaton
Billion + Megaton = Universe
Megaton + Universe = Big Bang
Big Bang + Universe = Earth // 12```
can someone check if 234567 is provable?
β Proven (5)
thes3 disproven
ΒΉ Proven (19)
Β² Proven (18)
[8 Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Dusty proven
Dyson Swarm disproven
Ear proven, Headphones proven
Eat proveb, Lard proven, Grease proven
Ebook proven, Ebooks proven
LARD
ΒΉ (U+00B9) to Water in 10
Β² (U+00B2) to Water in 9
Β² + Β² = β΄
β΄ + β΄ = βΈ
β΄ + βΈ = ΒΉΒ²
Β² + ΒΉΒ² = 14
14 + β΄ = 100
100 + 100 = 200
200 + ΒΉΒ² = 212
100 + 212 = Boiling
212 + Boiling = Water // 10```
8 to Water in 10
16 (88) + 16 (88) = 32 (176)
16 (88) + 8 = 104
104 + 32 (176) = 176
16 (88) + 176 = 195
16 (88) + 195 = 212
16 (88) + 32 (176) = 48 (264)
176 + 48 (264) = 100
100 + 212 = Boiling
212 + Boiling = Water // 10```
ok 2 people said ban even for numbers
so uhh
um haha
let me clean it up a bit and maybe optimize then I'll submit .1 to form as proven π
1.1 and 1.5
imagine proving those
how do you even prove decimals
has anyone done that yet
ignore this i just dont wanna reload#1299426533492129905 message
-# actually no decimals is probably easier than IPs
ok I can't optimize
im gonna generate a random thing that no-one will prove and automate that single element for no reason at all >:3 /j
do "Σ©"
should I automate it
2
5
yeah
next up i'm proving like 1.1 and 1.5
because why not
idk
.1 to 1 in 4 steps below.
[1 to Fire in 11 steps](#1299426533492129905 message)
Total: .1 to Fire in 15 steps
Dolphin proven
did no one add these to the sheet? (except for Pot Of Gold and Bong for some reason)
they are still white
also Glitter proven (somehow i didnt notice it when i was filling in the sidebar)
Abominable disproven
is anyone running depth explorer rn?
181818 is 100% possible, 234567 idk but worth checking
Earth from 9999 proven (58)
[123456 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
speaking of 9999, guess what got proven
640128, 960192, 320064, 480096, 800456, 800160, 960788 disproven
358 proven, 716 proven, 1432 proven
1431 proven
Eight proven
Eire proven
Reject proven
Eleven proven
Enemies proven
Enter proven, Exit proven, Entrance proven, Gate proven
Enterprise proven
Ents proven
Epitaph proven
Eskimo seems provable
I do that
I hate this fox
He doesnt want to collaborate
(βneal.fun/iβ proved)
@formal sluice forgot to add to the sheet #1299426533492129905 message #1299426533492129905 message
214 proven
228 proven, 2052 proven (...surely there's a better way to do this)
btw @supple rune do you want edit access on the numbers sheet so you can add the things you prove yourself?
Should we mark elements > 499999 as automatically disproven unless proven otherwise?
7
9
2
No
π
Ethernet proven
Forgery proven
Ex-friend proven, Ex-enemy proven
Explore proven
Explode proven
Excess proven
Exclaim proven, Exclamation Point proven
Expensive proven, Luxury proven
Factoid proven
Feed proven
Female proven
Feminine proven
Fencing proven
Fend proven
Fern Green proven, Fern proven
shit i just realized
Lapisfloof disproven
Fib proven
Fiend proven
Fife proven, Flute proven
Water from Fill proven (3)
Find proven
Fire from Firefighter proven (2)
Fire from Fire Truck proven (2)
First Date proven
First Step proven
Five proven
Twenty-five proven
Flip-flop proven, Flip Flop proven
Fluff proven
Flypaper proven, Sticky proven, Glue proven
Follow proven
Follower proven
Fond proven, Affection proven
Force proven
Fool proven
Form proven
Fourth proven, Thirteenth proven
Rocky Iv proven
Fowl proven
Foreskin proven
Fresh proven
Fridging proven
Fruit Pie proven
Pudding proven
Full Moon proven
Funnier proven
Gag proven
Gates proven
Pupil proven
Gecko proven
Geneva proven
Earth from Hadron Collider proven (4)
Geologist proven
Sβmore proven, Smore proven
Ginger proven
Gingerbread proven, Piece proven
No War proven
Chess Piece proven
Girlfriend proven
[Trouble proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Girls proven
[Trouble proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
It Was A Gift From France proven
[Prison proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Glory proven
[Fame proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
2-0 proven, 4-0 proven
[104 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Goggle proven
[Binoculars proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Pass proven
[Tunnel proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Earth from 10002 proven (62)
[111110 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Β³ (U+00B3) to Water in 10
Β³ + Β³Β³ = Β³β΄
Β³β΄ + Β³β΄ = βΆβΈ
Β³ + βΆβΈ = β·ΒΉ
Β³ + β·ΒΉ = 72
βΆβΈ + β·ΒΉ = ΒΉβ΄β°
72 + Β³β΄ = 100
72 + ΒΉβ΄β° = 212
100 + 212 = Boiling
212 + Boiling = Water // 10```
Hail disproven
its quite big
i also forgot Hail in this thing
im blind
The Big Scary Monster, The Bigger Scary Monster and The Biggest Scary Monster disproven
U+0060and U+0062 proven
Sailor Anime and Sailor Moon disproven
Cave Painting disproven
Footprint and Trail proven
In, Out, Inout, Inoutinoutinout, Inoutinoutinoutinoutinout and Inoutinoutinoutin disproven (the Longs are elements which took up too much space and were too long to even combine anyway)
Pendants proven to Fire (30) [Necklace proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Steampunk Pirate disproven
Steampunk Robot disproven
Steampunk Pirate Robot disproven
Earth from 219 proven (149)
[2000 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
can u also add the step count, what base element it goes to, and link to necklace proof
Earth from 221 proven (74)
[2010 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Earth from 230 proven (66)
[9999 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Earth from 231 proven (62)
[11101 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
40104 disproven
i feel like this lineage is missing some steps or im just not following it well
which numbers
when is 300000 or 400000 created
i mean he has 100000 and 200000 so probably just those together
yeah but itβs bad practice to imply steps
yeah they probably just forgot good find tho
mkay
i was wondering when someone was gonna say that
wait no wth
ok i did it
no lineage for 300000, 400000, 39960, 142142, 1260.. how many steps did i forget lmao
i guess i could just find the lineage for these and add it to my message, but it would be even cooler if we found a more optimized proof than that
so many steps just to go to 11000
aha, 10000 is 32 steps
in that case maybe would be even better to post a text lineage instead of an image one
maybe u can type out 10000 lineage? ill add my new 420 to 10000 lineage to it
maybe you can do it using ib analyzer somehow
i think @supple rune posted a way how to do that
.
γ
could also try to edit an existing save
that wouldnt remove the need to type it out tho
no just share it with the analyzer
i don't have the savefile for that rn
Wind from 420 proven (40), 210 proven (41), 105 proven (42), 140 proven (42), 70 proven (43), 35 proven (44)
105 + 105 = 210
210 + 210 = 420
35 + 35 = 70
70 + 70 = 140
140 + 140 + 280
280 + 140 = 420
420 + 420 = 840
840 + 420 = 1260
1260 + 840 = 2100
2100 + 840 = 2940
2940 + 2100 = 5040
5040 + 2940 = 8000
8000 + 1260 = 9260
9260 + 840 = 10000
(10000 to wind here)
420 optimized from 131 to 40 steps
Wind from 2000 proven (37), 666 proven (39), 333 proven (40), 222 proven (41), 111 proven (42)
333 + 333 = 666
111 + 111 = 222
222 + 222 = 444
444 + 222 = 666
666 + 666 = 1332
1332 + 666 = 2000
2000 + 2000 = 4000
4000 + 4000 = 8000
8000 + 2000 = 10000
10000 + 10000 = 20000
20000 + 20000 = 40000
40000 + 40000 = 80000
20000 + 80000 = 100000
100000 + 10000 = 110000
110000 + 10000 = 121000
121000 + 121000 = 242000
242000 + 10000 = 252000
252000 + 110000 = 362000
100000 + 100000 = 200000
200000 + 200000 = 400000
400000 + 400000 = 800000
80000 + 800000 = 888888
362000 + 100000 = 462000
100000 + 888888 = 999999
462000 + 999999 = 555999
20000 + 10000 = 30000
30000 + 40000 = 70000
242000 + 70000 = 312000
312000 + 555999 = 867533
312000 + 867533 = Jenny
867533 + Jenny = Love
Jenny + Love = Marriage
Marriage + Marriage = Divorce
Heart + Divorce = Broken
Jenny + Broken = Glass
Glass + Glass = Window
Window + Glass = House
House + Glass = Greenhouse
Greenhouse + House = Plant
Plant + Greenhouse = Oxygen
Oxygen + Oxygen = Air
Air + Oxygen = Breath
Air + Breath = Wind
Wind from 219 proven (42)
[2000 proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
219 + 219 = 438
438 + 438 = 876
876 + 876 = 1752
1752 + 219 = 1971
1971 + 219 = 2000
i have an idea
when i type out 10000 lineage i could ask awwo to optimize it
#1299426533492129905 message apparently its proven here
did the recipe change?
is there any way to check
idk
no
https://infinibrowser.wiki/api/pair?a=Hangover&b=Hangover doesnβt even exist on ib
it was meant to be Friday + Hangover = Sick in that
Peasy had a lineage fixing that issue but ig is renoticing the issue lol
I guess weβll have to recheck all the elements that use Hangover as the proof now
Iβll do that when I come home
#1299426533492129905 message this is the only one i found
Earth from Katana proven (33)
[Bromance proof](#1299426533492129905 message) ```asciidoc
Katana + Katana = Double Katana
Double Katana + Katana = Triple Katana
Double Katana + Triple Katana = Quadruple Katana
Quadruple Katana + Triple Katana = Quintuple Katana
Quintuple Katana + Triple Katana = Sextuple Katana
Sextuple Katana + Triple Katana = Nine-Tailed Fox
Katana + Naruto = Sasuke
Naruto + Sasuke = Bromance
Bath Bomb proven
Hangover disproven
Alcohol proven
[Cure proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Cocktail proven
[Cure proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Barley proven
[Cure proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Ale proven
[Cure proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
can u mention the base element and the step count of the lineages u just posted
Tang proven (Tangerine and Clementine have a proof too but im too lazy to make that)
Sandbox is disproven
Mario Kart disproven
Mario Kart 8, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe disproven
Trackmania Turbo disproven
Nadeo disproven
Trackmania United, Trackmania United Forever disproven
Tmuf disproven
Tmufmania, Tmuf Forever disproven
Tmufmania Turbo, Tmufmania United, Tmufmania United Forever, Trackmania Forever, Tmuf United, Tmufmania Forever, Trackmania 2 disproven
[Illustrious Sand](#1269407037461233774 message) is entertaining to try.
Illustrious Sand proven
Tangerine proven and Clementine proven and Orange proven
Orange Tree proven
Pin proven and Needle proven and Sewing Kit proven and Tailor proven
Mackinac proven and Michigan proven
38 Led A, 38 Led B, 76 Led proven
Led Light disproven
im honestly surprised Led Light is FD
and that LED Light is not on IB
Glossary disproven
Goose proven
Gov proven
Gore proven
Grade proven, Hill proven
Earth from Graviton proven (5)
Gravestone proven
Grammars proven
Grenade proven
Grenades proven, Grenade Launch proven, Greenade Launcher proven
Grow proven, Ground proven, Yard proven
Grunge proven
@formal sluice can you color proven and disproven elements in infinibrowser?
do you want everywhere on ib or on the main page or on specific pages?
if you can do all why not
should i make it a separate userscript or in the same one?
sure do separate the userscript
Earth from Sweat proven (17)
[Puddle proof](#1299426533492129905 message) ```asciidoc
Sweat + Sweat = Puddle
Actually
should we ask yui for a database of A + A = B kind of recipe
to prove a batch of elements
okay i got so much ideas for the ic userscript
Guts proven