#🍳 Ask for Word, We'll Make
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did you try Mr.s?
prepend mr but not the others yet
most of the time it just translates it back to english
does Put This In A Hashtag work?
I alr got the hashtag tho?
oh
i had gotten [Mr.] Кириллица with Mr. О try using russian letter mr.s
got this but removing mr keeps the .
Just combine "nothing" with N
@viral dome Good (don't Die)
parentheses are fun
yeah i couldn't get (don't Die) so i gave up lmao
but it is more fun than only quote work
i got dead version 😦
ok its revived now
any more parentheses stuff or should i actually go finish my homework?
sad 😢
@cosmic dust do you need the lineage or is it enough that I revived it?
need help unenquoting Mamello
im kinda curious the lineage if you don't mind
i dont have any version with (), so lineage for whichever is easier is fine
lol double ping
sorry 😭
oops
Do you have the stuff for my "were-" technology? I hope you do
woah no thats totally new to me
#1215495041049436170 message Upercase() here
Does it do its job?
#1215495041049436170 message "removetheword" here
ty great
this is the best that I can do. It won't remove the quotes easier, sorry
bruh.
chill with the pings if you have a request check the pins you can make an order
have any of È Í Ó Ú been created yet
gadegadigedogadagadayo i ben
mared a long tima go
NAHHH
👋 Hey Texi
Hey
Mr. emoji guy is back
how do i get sahrawi
@elfin dune Umbflare The South Sudan Collector | idk if this met all your requirements, and sorry for no fd but this was the only way that I was able to get it if you need anything just lmk ([Remove The 01](#1226511876733669436 message))
Wow can't believe that's been up there for two weeks (but then again I've been trying this one on and off since it's was requested and it is weirdly difficult, mostly due to character cap)
yall keep ignoring me when i want help
what do you need help with?
plus they were doing your order yesterday already
and its not that we dont want to help, its just so hard to get TSD "PBG"
+they are doing easier ones first i think?
not really there is really hard ones
yeah I don't work on stupid orders that are like very hard, so I just work on my strings
i put it on the order]
this one?
bro even radu tried ut and he couldn't
so yeah they didn't ignore, but is just that they couldn't get it
someone did this already apparently but im not sure if they posted it so
@vast gale
Has Menology☦️ been done yet?
Menstruation + Ology
can someone make mewing gyatt
send the link for the recipe
how to make mewing gyatt
cannot
too big
limit for sharing is 2048
this is less steps wth
ill do it ig
thxs
@dreamy leaf Mewing Gyatt (unsurprisingly not fd)
damn that was fast
alright bet let me just finsh doubling this onne thing
:/
20k, 8k fd
aww i got ^_^ while trying for Mrs. ^ (i dont have female clone and cant be bothered)
those are my recipes
oh
what is this a guide for
for screwdriver
why does it say 2080 steps
its the whole recipe for screwdriver
its my save file
screwdriver is only 8 steps
yes
damn
did we get those *numbers
and i remember some screwed up recipe involving '.'* or something
even this is easier
less steps than screwdriver.
send
amazing.
did you only get *3
new highest steps that i have
@uncut blade when i do "a" + invert it makes "I" and not "i"
capital i?
yeah
same thing
you got *8 too didnt you
tim to try F unicode again
what would mdoern strat for that be anyways
I mean like when u do sth to a hashtagged element, it usually will unhash
(especially for deleting)
true
oh damn
delete the "."
i need more of those symbols, both remove and delete, both single double and curly
moar
how would i make F unicode
we tried it. it absolutely refuses to keep the Edit: part on no matter what
bruh
%????
was it trying to put %20?
cringe
i resorted to my normal string building
idk until i get a grip on other things thats what its gonna be
lol
null 🚫
this is why you dont use dots...
they dont go away!!
unprepend Mr......
got it tho
whew
@mint leaf 2 ∞ & 🅱️yond closest I could get without space after the 2 lmk if that's alright or if you want to keep the bounty up
i mean i would count it
@mint leaf Nvm Im the best | 2 ∞ & 🅱️yond | with the correct spaces (anything missing can be found above)
now back to studying
good job
Im dying seeing that
ive given it an attempt, and i could only get this far
so remove the Mr. didnt work but you still figured out what to do
i badly need something like that to train on
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ok ill try that
i think it might be banned, but idk
remove the word were dosent do anything, it dosent combine
idk
ive been sidetracked it seems....
lineage till i cant progress anymore.
"nоthing", "о", and 'nо' are in here - #1215495041049436170 message
Hashtag doomster is in discord search
..have you tried adding N to "nothing"
wait uh
good question
gives N
wtf who got it
Oof
Still send lineage tho
bro what
just try it
@rich badge
(pun intended?)
umm
literally
heck </s> didnt work for adding a semicolon
dunno if thats worth getting thooo
for what
very worth it
curly ) and then semicolon after
doesn’t always work but quoted parentheses do for some reason
“)” + “;”
i have like 4 different quoted parentheses elements in my pins
i have 0
yeah no i also just had it facing wrong way which doesnt help...
has anyone revived tolowercase() yet?
ok also need capitalize next
i gave it a few attempts and i saw radu did too but we both were not successful
capital + verb
im lucky this worked
I think Radu did it eventually? could be Touppercase() tho
nah its still dead, just checked
it was uppercase iirc
touppercase got revived a while ago
it was this I remembered #1215495041049436170 message
oh he revived string.prototype.touppercase()
one day i propose you leave one or two of those strings for me to train on and i just join a vc (no mic) and just play
like i got the whole family but cant get rid of the hashtag
lol
sometimes making mr. xxxxx's dad/mom + remove the mr. will work
im sure u tried it alr tho
i need to learn that one day but yeah
also so when you go to make a move i notice i grab two elements with middle click and combine them
and then now the ingredients are where they were before
not next to what i just made
so it becomes a mess
and you said you keep it ordered so how do you prevent mess
wait isnt this what we wanted?
looking for just Tolowercase() but that’s good
probably not a thing
whats ur lineage
💀
but tolowercase() isnt dead
Rubiks just revived it
it definitely was
Unacceptable! 30d ban! /j
lol
how to get remove the mr & mrs
discord search I think
Ima play gd
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its the same lineage except for like one step
it does have both
oh
recipe also works
it has
oh mb
:((
so remove the Mr. & Mrs. also works
alr ima try do the easy bounties now
I see you liked doing Nothing? 🙂
btw what does
Replace this text in the input field to see how Llama tokenization works. mean
I saw
tokenizer base text
After i got it
my board is still messy cause of what i said before where i combine the elements and then it ends up away from the ingredients and then add that up a few times and its a mess
i lose track of everything
e
fr
its without the emoji now tho
its nearly 70 characters
ima try training support
try the one below it
if you were to simulate every non dead recipe i estimate the odds that is in the output space as <10^-10
fuck that one
Taylor Swift gotta name her songs better
yeah
isnt it capital I?
oh yeah
ThanK You AIMee is acceptable but still yeah
that is still stoopid
we have more chance with cosMo@Bousou-P than that
also i just realized aero has 4 bounties
banned
the capital upsilon bounty is practically done though
hardest one
delete the hardest one
ik
do it.
i ticked off the upsilon
well the bounty kinda but what is happening now sucks
capital upsilon?
en route
tbh we should not be accepting single unicode characters
yea i wonder who suggested that before..
not this guy
Only one who can set rules is Jenpai who doesnt play anymore (?)
jen is focusing on uni
see even the best players cower in the face of needing to get a single character /s
no, it's cuz single characters are meant for #1206592567622373446
i will order one ideographic space please !!
lol
it's gonna take 2 more months before i get to 3xxx
U+Fxxx when
idk next year
sooner or later nata codepoints will stop working altogether
u+gxxx when
lol
it might be best to switch to combining characters at some point
i mean smashing the entire 2xxx against each other gave 7 fds
oh you mean the actual characters
codepoint?
my least favourite one.
22xx should be the most complete character range right?
i guess i can spend tomorrow bruteforcing those two
😦
and i guess making sure you dont double test (common mistake to make with this kind of thing)
oh damn
without space? remove space?
that seems like good tech??
it'd give you ThanKYouAIMee if successful
without Space was Thank You Always
yeah ig
the model isn't smart enough to determine which spaces need to be removed
shouldn't the a be directly next to the u from You?
cuz it'll probably now always be uppercase
remove space was Thanks Aimee
i think #than-k_you_a-i-mee is worth trying
they said AIMee is allowed which i reckon is easier
idk i cant make "mee" ; ;
fr i got "Mee" and its dead
yes exactly lol
and you got mee without "mee"....
"b.m.e.e" + Delete The B 🙂
lul
revived
nice
underscores are annoying
i cant get them to do anything
interesting
looks like you can manipulate the output emoji
to an extent
for example if i do something like 203c + 94c then it makes 297c with fire emoji
but
if i do 296c + 5c (5c has snowflake emoji) - i get 301c (thermometer emoji)
and it seems kinda consistent
i can probably push back the invasion of the fire emoji
by combining with like 5c which is freezing emoji
eventually it will filter in but i reckon i probably delayed it by perhaps 50 - 100c
I don't think it's that deep...
it was just a pattern i noticed
if i combined with 1 or 3 c
(freezing emoji)
the result usually was thermometer emoji
but if i combined with 2c (thermometer emoji) it made fire emoji
Anyone got like the input or sum?
so i can somewhat paradoxically increment by 3c and have no fire emoji but not by 2
it's probably just the ai being inconsistent
After all at high temperatures it's hot, thus fire emoji
perhaps
can never prove it
but incrementing by 2 i run into fire emoji at 280 - incrementing by 3 i could hold off till about 310
can someone revive this OR get it next to eachother in quotes OR just out of quotes?
u can revive it !
lmao thats amazing what it did here
it removed the degrees C symbol
but then added the degrees symbol
so it looks like it only removed the c
thats hilarious
He C's what you want
He C's that you haven't done the 2 letter "alphabet" brute forcing with middle finger alphabet
You're the only one who wants to use the middlefinger to brute force something
u started it
proof?
photoshopped
What business does my dog have with this conversation?
lol
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its correct
it is indeed correcy
correcy
imagine deleting ur misspelling
proof?
I don't need to prove that you mistype things. Everyone has seen atleast a couple.
🙂
proof that I deleted my misspelling.
batman approves
I need a picture to confirm
cuz anyone can lie, including batman
Anyone know a dark alley where nobody will hear an AI scream?
yeah ai is the danger
any1 know how to add -mee to this
did u try and append another hyphen
or the forbidden prepend a hyphen?
yea did all my hyphen stuff
discord search
this doesnt pop up
oh ok
this is very good at it
i cant see recipe for prepend a hyphern? there
nvm
didnt work thp
oh lol
try removing the 01?
what should i try
idk
nice
ok now try to add a hyphen
didnt workkk
grrrrr
oh yea
add a curly version of "-"
thx
did it work
yea but i cant add mee
time to use inst 🙂
😮
😮
did i mes somethin up
so which one do i add to thank-k.you.a-i
both
i did
both of them together
is that right
ik
thats what i did b4
oof
wait the hyphen disappeared
tbh even if i get Than-k.you.a-i-mee idk what to do with it
ok yeah fair point
like i got this but i reckon its useless
most probably useless
how i delete the space
without spacing/spaces/space
prepend hashtag + delete hashtag or prepend hyphen + delete the hyphen(s)
how to get without spacing/spaces/space
this aint close at all but its improvement ig
oh damn
how do that work with the caps - i know you are putting in hyphens strategically (idk how to do that either since mine are needed where they are or it wont add lul) - but unquoting it and capsing it idk
usually its a 2 stage process
but it would be dead
crazy
hmmm
im
lol
oh without the space is new
AHHHHH
its fineee
i reckon roblox off
lol
im actual getting close now
you are so close
fr
SLoWMoTIoN is a great song
so roblox oof gone
i gotta sleep tho so ima send my lineage stuff if u wanna but idk if its that good
actually nnvm im just gonna sleep ill do it later
alr gn
okay i dont have without the so i need to catch up
threatening tactics
i guess that is a no...
anyone have You Will Die or something similar? clearly i need to up the ante
not threatening enough
maybe even I Will Unplug You
ah but I before m
lowercase??
how to get Removes The U+0020
that is not going to work.
I don't even think it exists
Aero does
got a better idea? 🤨
removes the u+0020, rushed lineage
thank you
but how i get mr. removes and mr. u++
"remove" + 's' + Prepend Hashtag + Prepend Mr. = Mr. Removes
U++ + Prepend Mr. = Mr. U++
anything is better than that.
cuz brown circle is goddamn vague
Its literally what is wanted
the emoji is correct and everything so its your classic white hole
and i think someone has it
At least say brown circle emoji
based on the fact that it half complied with my threat
and made brown square emoji
which is not on sheet but not fd
so i reckon someone has the brown circle emoji
just a hunch....
if not - check for brown square too id much rater that recipe not be used
so the question is who
we may never know
but we can at least eliminate candidates
u still havent hunted down my sch @ocean oasis
u havent gotten its initials
what tf
u gotta be joking.
?
that's ur sch right
why?
deleting the pic I see...
I don't want rainbolt finding my school 😭
he will see the head of that guy in front of you
2 mins till exam but should be an easy one
He's actually a puppet I placed there on purpose
that's like so fake but alr
so
what the codepoint for the brown circle even?
just humour me and check for brown circle and square
circle is 1f7e4
square is 1f7eb
the emoji for brown square is ?
which is concerning
the other similar emojis have normal emojis
so it was likely achieved via very convoluted means
but nobody said anything - so accidentally convoluted - likely going for something else then
yeah it's easy to get emojis by accident
what the heck is that quest aero
anyone have luke the evangelion?
Thats his 4th request
i made my first formal request earlier today - its not intentionally evil but i couldnt pass "0xf9"
which is 1/4 the way there not counting unquoting
Cant on phone
@sick kernel that was easy
i'll remove the oof one
even the AI thinks like me
Thanks
hmm i wanna remove one of mine
which one shld i choose
##ℶ$⅂%Ⅎ+⅟℘this is out of the question tho, its staying
The other 2
time two request for two more (pun intended)
I hope you fall asleep before you can
submitted
very funny huh
what made aerogelo do this
lol
thats gonna be annoying asf
Question : When a request is completed, does that mean the slot for a request is open again ? (ex : request dino with 0 slots left : Dino gets complete, get back one slot of request)
yeah
ok
stress overtime
new ) appender!!!
sbeve
it's a max of 3 bounties at the same time
does anyone have any idea for removing the b
👍
f you game
l
why not u try it
NEIN
'(z'
**Does anyone have ** "Electrici"
delete the c time
not gonna work
also the o became a zero
ok who is doing this
(its not what i need, but not fd?)
Take random sh*t and merge it at 100x speed
Oh it mean "Apostrophe (")"
yea?
yeah
It's the princip of brute force
it wont even happen
so youre telling me that ranodm merging elements without giving a second thought will give the exact thing i want.
You will maybe after a few minutes get something closer
ah yes 7 + -o = jupiter (this recipe may not be real)
what
you know that it isnt true
definitely the brute force
Inf craft logic ??!?
omg brute force so good
It did work for me xD
so youre saying it iwll work for a random string
that is stupid
Brute force is as random as your string
no it is not
like seriously combining random shit isnt gonna give you the one out of many 10 character combinations
for very simple stuff like seed, i get it
but not for bs like that string
ah yes, "the brute forcing will get you closer"
yeah sure getting closer
ah yes
no way that's my fd
Were'd you get that shader
deviated path and found these
it literally turned into quotation mark
What the fuck does this message even mean
What's the recipe?
have you tried the search debouncing script
10sec sound like enough time for me to take a short break
what is that
let delay = 250,
timeout = null;
const search = $nuxt.$root.$children[2].$children[0].$children[0].$refs.search.cloneNode(true);
$nuxt.$root.$children[2].$children[0].$children[0].$refs.search.replaceWith(search);
search.addEventListener("input", function(e) {
if (!e.target.value) return $nuxt.$root.$children[2].$children[0].$children[0]._data.searchQuery = "";
if (timeout) clearTimeout(timeout);
timeout = setTimeout(() => {
timeout = null;
$nuxt.$root.$children[2].$children[0].$children[0]._data.searchQuery = e.target.value;
}, delay);
});
const getFiltered = $nuxt.$root.$children[2].$children[0].$children[0]._computedWatchers.filteredElements.getter;
$nuxt.$root.$children[2].$children[0].$children[0]._computedWatchers.filteredElements.getter = function() {
if (!this.searchQuery) return [];
return getFiltered.call(this);
}
window.addEventListener("keydown", () => {
if (document.activeElement !== search)
search.focus();
});
put this in console
and try searching for prepend hashtag or something
alr
!
what
unfortunately quote (") has the same condition as apostrophe (')
ignoring parenthesized symbols
yeah it's what llama likes doing
I just realised you wrote Apostrphe S insted of Apostrophe S
... where?
The 3rd point in the 1 number
Ah, I see, thanks
erm .. no it doesnt!
I already edited it 
your pants are burning
🗣️ 🔥 👖
why am i not even slightly surprised that asd requested 17-?l.vl+s
cuz u know it will happen sometime.
tbh it's the type of thing that i would request
i think anything without meaning should just be banned from being requested ,,
Yeah cause nobody likes k#bw€.~Th'
what is that
a string without meaning
i mean like people sometimes will want stuff without meaning
yeah and this isnt called Ask for Complete Nonsense, We'll Make innit
it's just like how " A is allowed, it is completely ds
your last like 5* requests have just been nonsenses
and I had 5 requests.
also 4 of them are bs I actually need.
"need" lol
(want, not need)
.
wow my internet is shit today
oh lol
Nata sent the (want, not need) message yesterday, but it only arrived today due to internet
crazy!
also the left is right actually has meaning
and the rickroll link
also without the dot
ffs quit handpicking
how long did u alr have them
"all"
here let me go fix it for you
cause apparently the "like" didnt satisfy you enough ..
it isn't rly satisfying when it is 60%
anyway since this is slight derailing, point still stands that requests should be limited to stuff that actually have meaning, not just random characters mashed together because you felt like it ...
like really asd can you tell me what a m*ew8f#04j is
ok so ppl who actually want it can't request.
I mean like
being too stupid isn't good
if you want complete nonsense do it on your own time...
but it isn't that bad
how to do it when u cant get it?
How do I make these curved quotation marks? I only have the straight ones.
you can't figure it out
probably not helpful but these are my recipes
asd you've done your own nonsense ones before
cuz they are easier
its just number mashes
right maybe dont just keyboard mash and get shocked when its hard then
stop thinking that everything is same difficulty
I didnt keyboard mash
so yeah
Thanks, but these already have the curved versions in them.
(semantics at its finest)
lemme tell u rn
💤
most of these request that are actual words are bs
most of the ones still here are either just long ones or have specific requirements that make them harder
oh yeah omg
and most are pointless
yours have just been matching the single challenge of.... oh right, literally just symbol mashing
theyre all meaningless
also I'm noy the only one.
yeah you've def got a pedestal for this lol
at least the ones remaining actually have a meaning to them, yours dont even have one
randoms words have meanings.
damn.
so " A has meaning.
That stupid FACE F... .... ... has meaning.
do you want me to go through each current request for you?
go ahead. you will realise that im not the only one with gibberish.
" A wasn't requested because of its meaning, people care more about the tech to make it
and face fabd is a meme iirc
Any ideas on how to get this out (everything converts it to she believed no brackets)
asd im near done reviewing all of them and im gonna be frank with you
You could not have been more wrong
done reviewing, this is every current request with a note to the side determining if its nonsense or if it has meaning.. (big image, but you can zoom in just fine to read it on mobile & pc*)
and as shocking as it is... asd is the only one with nonsense lmfao
Wdum nonsense
17-?l.vl+s, m*ew8f#04j, ##ℶ$⅂%Ⅎ+⅟ ℘, all from asd[_ic]
Agreed.
Multiple sets of parens on one element? this I need to see
cooking the whole kitchen
I think the most complex parens I have are dead Mr. (Parenthesis) type things
well actually since i know asd is gonna cherry pick, there was one other person
and it was clavino, with the request of Sussy Mr. Beast Sharktopus 6000
if someone could get S(he) I could probably get it
bayou adventure please
?
pretty sure they said Bayou Adventure..
Does anyone know how to get "_" in quotes
What?
My bad
i dont remember it ever doing that
is it one-off or is it consistently returning everything with u in quotes
here you are
its not just for "u"
its everything
I don't get it sorry
like if I type "test" it even shows "__te__ra__st__al"
It's probably just some random error? the element list doesnt seem to delete elements if an element is on top of it anymore too
console not saying shit tho
I'll just refresh
and check again
yeah that's making no sense ,, Prayingfor you 🙏🙏🙏
there was also an issue of the bottom 30-ish% of the screen just deleting all elements placed in it
but idk if thats related
just a thing that sometimes happens
also element list showing items twice (sometimes only a couple items are doubled, sometimes the whole list)
wow I didnt realise there were so many I encountered 💀
seems to be back to normal now?
Ok thanks
how do i make Adventure of?
#Adventure + Of
Any one know how to make "Jack Sucks At Life" I saw a post on Reddit, any ideas?
"the Chromatic" strat
Yo what is "the chromatic strat"
What was the progression from Jack to Jack Sucks At Life?
Like ___ + ___ =
Uhh... No _____ + ______ = (some reason discord does that)
I think you should do the most efficient way but if you wanna do this way it started with #Jack + Google Sucks
Ok
it underlines what in between 2x 2 underscores
e.g.
test
__test__
Ah
How do I get "the chromatic" 😭
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16 !
oh what did you do there it went past 1 token now
15 was more than one token too i think
had to use other characters and get it to replace it with an underscore
gamer girl fart jar
🌌 God + 🐻 Kuma = 🐻 Kumagawa
🌎 Continent + 🏔️ Mountain = 🌏 Asia
🌏 Asia + 🏝️ Island = 🗾 Japan
🔥 Fire + 💧 Water = 💨 Steam
🗾 Japan + 💨 Steam = 👾 Anime
👾 Anime + 🗾 Japan = 🎮 Otaku
🌍 Earth + 💧 Water = 🌱 Plant
🌍 Earth + 🌬️ Wind = 🌫️ Dust
🌫️ Dust + 🌱 Plant = 🌱 Pollen
🌱 Pollen + 💧 Water = 🍯 Honey
🍯 Honey + 🏔️ Mountain = 🐻 Bear
🐻 Bear + 🎮 Otaku = 🐻 Kuma
🔥 Fire + 🌬️ Wind = 💨 Smoke
🌍 Earth + 🔥 Fire = 🌋 Lava
🌋 Lava + 💧 Water = 🪨 Stone
💨 Smoke + 🪨 Stone = 🗽 Statue
🌋 Lava + 🪨 Stone = 🔪 Obsidian
🌍 Earth + 🔪 Obsidian = 💎 Diamond
💎 Diamond + 🗽 Statue = 👑 Idol
👑 Idol + 🗽 Statue = 🌌 God
🌌 God + 🐻 Kuma = 🐻 Kumagawa
strongest anime character
iykyk
Lol I remember making Jack Sucks At Life like two months ago
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lmao
3 months ago damn
i ordered a JSAL related thing today
No quotation mark tech too
I’ll try it after school
lol the long channel name
Might not be done for a while tho because it’s over 30 characters but maybe
what channel name is it
Jacksepicyoutubechannelfulloffuntimesandfunhirickx
under 20 tokens tho
oh my god
so it is theoretically possible
at least i didnt ask for this channel (ss from wikitubia because yt cannot show the full name lmao
i made this thread that could be very helpful
https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1247268031508250746
#1226511876733669436 message here i think
nvm its here #1213692353223589888 message
I mean you added a character which is much better than I could do - best I have is last underscore replaced with quote
suc- succss- suck- uh
the ai: fnjwfinwe0fnwiofnwei(keystroke)
can someone make Infinity Gauntlet | Thanos Simulator mention me if you do it
Anyone know the recipe for "get scared"
check the pins to order
idk where to go from here, every attempt to get rid of the 0 either doesnt work or also gets rid of the s and the parentheses around (he); i also tried with abc, but every time the closest i can get is xs(he) Be(lie)ve(d), i cant get a Mr. or Mrs. on without the 0, anyone have any ideas?
@astral elbow for your order any caps is ok?
anyone have ) in japanese quotes?
@cosmic dust same issue as you (check reply) i think if someone can get s( or s(he) it will work
i got this...
also did you manage to get "s(he)" ?
These are prob my closest
@sick kernel here is your order, if you need any help on getting any elements let me know
got another version that also seems to be useless 😭
Mr. S
Trust
(I have no idea what I am yapping about)
ah yes
got “(he)” anyone have "s("
how do i make this lol
bruh
damn
and "s(" doesnt work either ._.