#Longest element in Infinite Craft
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this is not working
there’s no repetition whatsoever for it to feed off
spaghetti
?? What
i mean i almost got it to work for another similar one
Which one? I tried all the other combos and it never came close
Yeah that one I know of
just the reverse of Authentication Administration (this is what i tried first)
but nothing else I tried came close to repeating
same
there’s nothing for it to feed off
yeah idk then pretty funny that it worked for me
maybe try using string.padend or like combine padend padstart with the .pad?
idk like it is more combinations
thx game
or padboth
won’t lie I am a bit annoyed you took all those other 305 once you got it but truth is it doesn’t actually matter they’d all be gone by now even if you didn’t
so it’s fine
well I didn't even know there were only like 6 of them per ' so
yeah 💀 sorry
siblings
very helpful, game
who is older? the one with more characters or more of / ?
i think the bigger one is older, the / are like bones, as you grow older you have less
it only has 4 bones
it is not a human
You didn’t know? wait you didn’t know what the tokens were but you still got them anyway
bruh
who
you said you didn’t know there was so few
well I didn't check which characters could repeat like 300+ times
I know how the tokens work
no
i knew those long words
i didn't even consider a single character being able to repeat so much
anyone have String.append(“”) ?
i have String.append(“.”)
how did you get it?
No idea I’m not at pc
lmao
but it’s one of the many things I’ve tried to append space to curly
ai is being useless
yup
oh you got it in the pad though
yeah, no number though
do you know how to make "pad()" ?
I made "pad( )" (with a space)
has anyone gotten 305 solidus yet
what is solidus
lol whats the play for repeating quotation marks
btw how did people get like String.append(classification)
like there are no quotation marks
or apostrophes inside
idk
did we get string.pad("") (with or without number)
also wait you got .pad(num, ' ')?
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but it doesn't seem to work as well as the other one
thats for comma tho
ok wait I will give you entry point to quotation marks
but they do not increment well
also
yeah, i can't get underscores to work either
no. it is that no characters really work. they want spaces between them when there is more
cause they have 1 token each
the one on the left is String.append("'")
you get String.pad(2, "'")
....
i dont have pad(num, ' ')
sorry if i wasnt clear
thats what i was asking for
ooh
you need .append(' ') + .pad(2, '_')
and .append('_') + .pad(2, ',') = .pad(2, '_')
how to get?
uhm they don't even increment. or almost not
solidus is frontslash
they are pretty useless
dont care
wait meant to reply
no
i want
and uhm... one of them you get like this #1214815916957761586 message
yeah like how to get these? you got double quote pad space, double quote pad blank, etc etc (i.e. all the fundamental building blocks)
sheet?
is that append " #" or just "#"
wtf like why does it doooo this
why in jp quote
i mean yeah but like how - ive tried for the longest time to control quote type but i cant
still waiting for rubiks' comback
yeah like idk how I managed to make it work
to make something with them like this
well aren't there like 8 possible 319 long elements
or how many 15 letter 1 token words are there
(16 letter repeating)
theres technically a large number of 319 long elements possible
but like how do you change quote type like that
im probably not gonna beat 279 ; ;
like maybe I can figure out how to make japanese quotes without the spaces
i mean like what do you have string.pad(jpquotes, 2)
uhm no
i have String.pad("jp_quote_end")
and I can't get the jp_quote_start into quotation marks even
wait how did people get .pad('*', anything other than 2)
ah i see
converted it from space
so if you dont have string.pad(jpquoted element, number) then how are you getting it in jp
idk it just makes it when I combine it with random stuff
like how do I get it even into String.pad(「」, 2) like ..
well i would have assumed thats what you have
since you are making it pad inside jp quote
is there a sheet for this?
String. Starter
String.appends and prepends - Starter Guide
For lineages including more than 2 items, read from left to right.
"append ()" = ,"append " + Parentheses + Delete The Hyphen
"append()" =,"append ()" + Remove The Spaces
.append =,.prepend + .a
.prepend =,#prepend + .p
"string.appen...
lol.pad(2, '-1')?
so who got to 305 or who recently set their pb with this tech? trying to keep track here
of whats made already and what the recipe was
Representatives................................................ ? does that not work?
ok i got a 291
whew no longer 279
"//(288 underscores)
got another 291.... but it should be 305?
"(290 slashes)
what is this?
it did not get cut off
it just stopped
maybe you can try the same strategy with '
yeah. ig with the other one it gave like a thing longer than the token limit but with this not
the strategy it just was combining .pads
hm
ok i have this String.pad("", 577)
interesting
how did you get the '_____/_______ repeat
i guess you will get the 305 now
try like the same but with '/'
this is the recipe String.pad(52, "/") + String.pad(58, ' ')
what is yours
but hm.. I am trying it with smaller numbers just in case and it just seems to give 15/2 etc
like not useful it seems like
15/2 wdym
look im way behind you when it comes to variants
i do not even have any .pad("/", num)
idk how to organise my stuff
so easy to lose track of what i do and dont have
yeah same
but you have all these variants methodically im trying to get them
do you have String.pad(number, '/') + String.pad(number, ' ')
i don't have that even
but you have it other way around
yes
hang on ok i got it but only with 2
just combine .pad(number, 'something') with .append("/")
interesting
recipes?
well idk i was saying wtf as in wtf are those pads
how
3 arguments...
so thats why i dont have .pad("/", num)
only .pad("//", 512) (only number i have)
do we have .pad(" ", num) yet?
i don't
i think thunder does though
?
i have that
may i?
oh damn idk how to get .pad(num, "/") - trying to convert from .pad(num, ' ') doesnt work
it makes .pad(num, '/')
it is in reverse order
start from the last post
the first quotes is String.append(" ' ") (without the spaces)
u combine that with Stirng.pad(2, ' ')
ok
well i can make whatever number i think of these
did you have stuff with string.repeat(arg1, arg2)?
idk i just made them from quotes so they are not dead
and they are staying lowercase
yeah did you add 1 letter at a time?
or is shortcut?
also the recipe only gave .pad(2, " ") and it ends there
i cant make it 4
i want to follow this here but idk how to get to 52
yes as I said it increments really bad. you have to make it for each number separately (or at least the smaller number, and not all work)
literally the exact same way
you starting with 52, ' ' ?
yeah
maybe i messed up cause it worked the first couple steps but then last one took ages (must have been mistake)
made this
ah yeah
there was an extra apostrophe
it was .append(" '") i was doing 💀

yeah so for padstart, end, and both what did you do there - i did try something like doing it in quotes last night but didnt get far
String.padstart(), String.padend(), String.padboth()
impossible
or almost impossible
to make exactly 96 asterisks and nothing else
i completely forgot that asterisks exist
actually
dont you get any silly ideas now
i love asterisks
best i have is exactly 16 asterisks
wdym get silly ideas
well i would get it if you had 304 and ' but not 305
it is a joke. whyy does it make the spaces betweeen
definitely not
or '「'
? wtf
275
'*-********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
? lol
i think i know why mine is stopping but what i dont know is how to fix it
but tbf i dont know how you guys ones doesnt stop
why do you think it is stopping?
like yours should stop before being cut off - but they dont
like the first token is actually only 1 copy
for the slash example
'[//][////////////////][etc
where [] means "token"
ooh ok
well I made mine with single "/". (it is the same as yours)
well idk. i think it is just that it wants to return something in quotation marks (or apostrophes) but it hits the token limit and can't add the ending ' or ", so theoretically if we find a way to make elements not in quotation marks, then we can make 319
i imagine it being like String.pad(., 24) + String.pad(., 50) = ..... times 319
yeah idk
but thats highly suspicious it stopped at 305 twice now
actually no
the first one was 291
so its not a 305 based thing
because the first character is 1 token and 1 character, the rest is 16 * 19 = 304
so just expand the first character into 16
what strategies are there to make "(" and ")" and '(' and ')' without string.xxx()
well i couldnt get the repeating"//" but whatever
instead i got something else but its going to be such a bummer i think
probably am gonna just watch as all the 319 are taken
no 319s yet
Spaces
double start quote
whats wrong with spaces? i am confused
also yeah we got two instances of the repeating stopping early - well i dont think it actually stopped early
but ask my 305 asterisks why it isnt 319
and why my "(290 slashes) isnt 305
and now that i have 305 asterisks (and nothing else) im sure it will turn out to be a really unlikely event lol and 319 is actually every other recipe except what i did 💀
Oh huh
I must've done something wrong when I checked then
No I mean in saying pads won't get to 319
ah wait
i know why 305 asterisks didnt work
space separated token
then in that case 319 is only possible with something space separated + not separated
so like Representatives+304 asterisks ?
but like
riddle me this
it just stopped
Yep
Heh
That's what I thought would happen with underscores
I was wrong about the tokens being on input only though so no idea for this one
so whats wrong with Representatives + 304 full stops
There's nothing wrong with it, I was wrong
my best guess is somehow the first token is //
at first i thought it was self aware of the token limit and thats why it stopped
but i think its more likely for the first output token to be //
Ah
So you're thinking the sequence was generated as {//} > {//}{//} > {////}{//} and so on?
well no i was thinking it was generated as "
//
///////////////////// * 18
i think the // is first
not last
Oh
That makes more sense
but the alg to tokenise input just makes it look like its last
when in reality thats just an alternate tokenisation (but also valid)
like there is only one input tokenisation for a given string, but potentially very many output sequences
wait you got 305 asterisks with nothing else at the beginning?
oh nice how?
16 asterisks + one of the pad
oh huh strange
yeah i mean idk
this is an interesting idea though ill test it when i get home if no one else has by then
idk how youd test it
trial and error 🤷
how do you make einzelnachweise
yeah but like i dont actually have any idea how to actually play with the intention of getting that
Zettaminx, where's your list of all possible 15 15 bicombinations?
I think making a target list of all 319s might be useful at this point
i made a list of 16x16s and 16x15s but i can make all 15x15s
can you send the list of 15x15s
What
15 + 15 is Representatives, Einzelnachweise and the other weird ones
do you have the list of longest tokens
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This one right?
did you just want the words?
Nevermind I found the list anyway
need to be clear on notation here what are we calling space ones length
like Representatives is 16 in my eyes
why havent i seen like half those tokens before
imagine like the John Lenn cutoff is actually because the output was John Lenn (1 token per char for some silly reason)
i mean you can check
obv not but like im illustrating the point that since every standard character is a single token - its totally possible for the ai to genuinely get cut off before it "should"
just obviously not that early in this case
Something very fucked up has to happen to the probabilities for that to happen though
Also I like how this bounty's activity chart goes up by like 500 in random bursts whenever someone finds a new one but is 0 otherwise
true
This is not a bounty for conversation
you cant stop me from chatting in this bounty
not with that attitude
mute me then :>
What
i just found this while randomly combining some .pads together " _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
it is 291. For some reason there is a space just after the quotation mark
hm what was that one? how exotic are the pads getting now
yeah.
do we have.pad("_", num)?
i don't have that
neither do i
the ai didnt close quote
it got cut off
at 5 tokens
and thats due to output token choice
here's the proof
You keep megasigma pinned?
im confused what
of course
We should have a Pins showcase
i mean.. my pins should be updated. but I am too lazy because you have to pin them in a specific order and still new tools will be discovered...
I want to see other people's
if you were able to adjust them I would probably use them more
my pins are just stuff that i'm too lazy to search for
Wait Alfo why do you have ✓ and {backspace} pinned?
and backspace.. i just unpined it cause Idk why I have it pinned. i thought it was cool but it is not very useful
like I used to have pinned every special character I owned because I couldn't search for them easily, but now that's not possible
thanks
no way new longest is 5120 characters
No update yet Nata?
im confused about dots
dots are not a long token? well they are but they are length like 14
how did you get 305 asterisks? i didn't even know that
yeah just on its own i have the max number of asterisks
i combined pads for asterisks with something like ************************ and idk some of them worked
i dont get dots
how are they capable of long
ah ok
dots -> lots
idk it confused me
the tech for asterisks i cant get to work for anything else it seems to be a fluke
i would have rather it happened with hashes or slashes though
need to learn parents strat
ah yes escaped quote hashtag
oh you got jp and you got dots inside it
was it like .append('..') to get the dots inside
💀
but i combined two with each other to make it two dots
is this cursed?
id like that acutally wtf
o it looks kinda like a person
idk
right actually alfo you did get some things like that
i forgot what ther recipes were
but they were just loads of quotes
and i think one had something in them, although nowhere near centred
like these?
ig it was already discovered
also does anyone have an easy Mr. Representatives i only have singular
sure any pad with no quotations
yeah how did you get it inside like that?
or also any double quotes
like idk
convert to docstring -> hopefully adds 3 " around stuff
wow mr cooperated
..close enough
hehe
real
did you really name your child...
not that bad, just some ptip work
does anyone have Word* elements?
actually how does crap like that even work like seriously - how can data (which is not code) ever execute code
wdym
well if i want to execute data as code like i literally need to run eval() or exec()
but like why would i run exec(studentname)
that doesnt even make sense
no sane person would do that
probably exec(f"something something {studentname} something something")
same as no sane person would make a program that contains a single line containing "studentname" and expect the program to work???
like what is it supposed to do
real
well you added those asterisks with no issue it seems
yeah tryna get the hashtag off though
which is why i was looking for this
oh damn i only have repeat with spaces
i dont have any times specifiers and its 'es' not 'ing'
you have Prepend Mr. != right?
(!= is not equal sign)
i just used "the " to build it to Repeat 100 Times With + With Spacing
nope
dam
difficult recipe?
my only recipe
"prepend U+" + U+2260 + Prepend Mr.
totally awesome version of Prepend Mr.
nice
do you have a general method to get things inside the append/pad with no quotes?
as for the top left one, best i got for you is "0string.append('
😢
nah, i think it just tends to not have quotes normally when the string.append is already in quotes(behavior which i noticed back when i was first making them)
right
with symbols it is not working so well
any other methods?
also i tried really hard to make a replace dot with asterisk
using eiserns method
i couldnt do it
Curly the symbol you want, downside is the entire thing becomes curly
no not really, maybe try some cursed things?
also it doesnt look like Representatives******* is getting anywhere
did you un hash it?
yeah, though technically no because i just went through a different route
not as many asterisks as the hashtagged version though
so many congress
f 289
i think this can't even go longer. this is the limit
if anyone wants a recipe for .pad(「char」) i will make the lineage otherwise not
so you got it working jp quoted
yeah sure id like
also different route? hmm what would that look like
huh this worked?
oh ok
but yeah i will make the lineage later cause it is very very long and I am not in the mood rn
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I found String.append(‘char’)
277
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what was the recipe for that one? i assume using that new string.append?
it has just occured to me after spending about 45 minutes making String.pad('representatives') that String.pad('representatives',2) would be 31 characters
awesome
make String.pad(representatives, 2)
would that still work?
String.pad(2, ‘_’) + String.pad(28, ‘ ‘)
how is String.pad(representatives, 2) an fd, but String.pad(representatives, 4) isnt
Because someone found String.pad(representatives, 4) first. Hope this helps
Thanks Laurasia!
does anybody have a string.pad element where there isn't a space after the comma?
or course that works - lmao
yes
oh we do?
Rubiks I found your 305 asterisks : )
Oh you did? what did you do this time for it
well it has dashes but is definitely not 14 characters long xd
that was me 💀 i got it for representations (my reasoning was bc it was lowercase it might repeat lowercase) and somehow combined it with something and got representatives
but only for a couple
lol my longest so far is the Here Come the Here Come the Here Come the Here Come the Here Come the Here Come the Here
hmm
ok
got one way better
"transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport transport ("transport" + u+0020)
dont ask about the gay tuna
ill take it
"integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration
now you got my attentions
elaborate the recipe
please dont ask why i made the other one
"integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration integration
is 228 characters
understandable
has someone already gotten "representations representations representations representations representations representations representations representations representations representations representations representations representations representations representations representations representations
its not fd
aha
"investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation investigation
238 characters
tied that with sometihng else
"administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator administrator
a
no quotation marks?
yep
how to get that 💀
what is that first pad lol
check #1250302271900876800 message
it is not explained there, but you can probably figure it out
im not sure i could but i can try
ill grab the appends first which will take a while but i have to do it eventually
if even for all the stuff ive fallen behind on lol
someone update the chart
hell naw jigsaw yo ass trippin 😩
i've been hibernating in #dev for a while, will update by today i swear
not very sure if thats true but ok
okay i got everything in that message you sent but not an obvious lead to this but ill try it
true
still nothing
speaking blood?
found new 305 long element
wdym by how do I control quotes so easily?
like it is the same strategy. you just combine random pads together
to make the element
just use luck
yeah well if i want it to take weeks thats what id do
like if i want to put a different quote type in there, i could try all i like but it wouldnt work
well you want asterisks with preceding backtick, then use asterisks quoted in backticks to make it
shit
yeah i try that - i mean problem 1 is i dont actually know how to make what i want in backticks
what is that?
idk how many hpybnes when a backtick in front
well I also don't have many things in backticks. but I made backtick string.append so I have also that now
String.pad(60, ` `) + String.pad(60, `-`)
can someone help me count?
at least I did get sth
I'm gonna be in the leaderboards!!
is this your first 305?
i want a 305 😢
is it a 305 is the main question
how do you get spring pad shit
yeah ig
String.pad(60, []) + String.append(` `) and String.append(`-`)
`like this?`
full result
can someone help me count
what is that?
as you can see i dont have much
count what
count what
how many chars in this
bruh I'm on mobile
so?
womp womp
yep it is 305
smokin that asd pack
i would die on mobile
ok nice
i just use an api client if i need to do anything mobile
it is in the String.append chat
Nice tree
idk i guess im busting to one day invent anything but so far i have not once made any new variant of enything
volcano busted 😔
idk how to get the first one - i followed all of alfo lineage but it didnt show this recipe (unless i missed a post), and i couldnt figure it out lol
you need to increment String.pad(number, [])
well first i need to get that
i am not sure if i shared the recipe
yes its on two lines
how do you get it to wrap
isnt that illegal
idk bro
like newlines are not allowed
dont think so
u should share it, ppl might want it
i figured out myself
like it is not that hard
really?
i dont even know where to begin
presumably something with [] in it
and a bracket
wow you have so little elements with []
ig it is not that common
sequence of 2 characters
ah well the search was for
ig just share the recipe then
but man idk its all so deep like you need <> to make . to make padboth(.) to make pad(.) etc etc etc
ok. well most of it is from me experimenting
like idk how a human does that tbh
idk luck. like I got bored so for a while i tried to make <.>
like idk how to experiment in a way to get thingsl ike that
which resulted in other stuff so
well i guess it started with "["
or whatever
but yeah you kept track of everything which is cool - btw im combining .append([]) with pads and nothing is working rn
closest so far is this (not even close)
yeah like
cause like.. it takes time to make them
how do you at will make this thing
anything greater than a depth of about 6 is simply unreachable for me
but if its not that hard then...
idk
what am i doing wrong
like it would take weeks and im not kidding if i was to try it myself - that or i would never make it
a lot of that is because theres no logical entry point
probably need something like Mr. .append([_"])* idk
ok i added lineage
ok ok i am stuck on powers of 12*
you should share your lineage
to make powers of 2
come on dude...
im just trying to make padboth(number)
they do as you might expect
they just add 2
i also posted recipe for padboth(8).
but if you are trying to make a different number then np
another 305
"easy" btw
i can't make this repeat
does this mean we're welcomed to try..
length 30
how does one make that? if there were 2 spaces id get it
btu theres only 1
i can't keep up with everything while working on scripts at the same time
i mean id say thats impossible to make with current tech if i didnt know mbetter
too long
i'm lazy to provide full lineage but here's the last step
interesting
only hope is ||a unicode perhaps none of ya'll thought of||
average soft hyphen repeat
i mean its not on any list ive seen those tokens
from memory
but if its white space it would be stripped
i'm sure everyone has gotten plenty of space repeats lol
yeah alfo got like 30+
realistically we're probably only going to get ' ...
on their own theyd be strpped
so
it would make '
realistically you might be limited to ~300
youd need an opening and closing quote
6 or 7 fds
if anyone wants to be stubborn you could try 306
string.append(` `)
i tried already
but i am still behind
asd how did you enter into that
im like halfway i think
with about 5 lineages ive had to follow
but you did it yourself on mobile 💀
so what do i gotta do
hashtags can go even further apparently
not clear how to progress from string.append(` `)
presumably need to get something other than a space in there
which so far i havent been able to
append unicodes
works on several of them
hm ok
yep
yeah the issue is that its hard to repeat hashes, for me at least
double hashtag traumatic flashbacks
man
which append unicodes?
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backtick version?
but im seriously still trying to get the ingredients
for the 305 you got
but i cant
like presumably you got a hash inside the backticks
i couldnt
i don't
i could
ah ok
my board is a mess
but like its so funny it gave me that 305
and i was not going for it
i was trying to get a hash inside the backticks
and it wouldnt let me
but it did that instead
how many 305 fds u have?
grand total of 2
same lol
u want me to reveal what that is
i keep losing my elements lol - like where did my append( ) go
i mean sure since i am fairly certain its impossible
i don't get that it has such a high unicode value and still has 16 chars per token
yeah same
there is a list?
oh ok
yeah sure
plenty
i got the underscores one, not fd though
which recipe was the dashes one again
oh you got up to 280 with slash
and it made dash
oof
got the dash one now
by accident
was quite annoying
but with dashes this time
i forgot what alfos other recipe for the 305 asterisks was
not fd
wow
why do you have that
the heck
i mean idk my board ive lost track of everything now even within only the backticks - considering other quote types and mixing is too deeprn
another 274
how did you even get that in the pad?
making append (" ' x ") is easy enough
but it wont go in pad
20 spaces
You've heard of death, now get ready for extreme death
Well actually that would be the 34 wouldn't it
?
The one with 34 spaces, dead in two ways
Toss in a capital letter at the start and you'll have it in 3
idk if it all works out we can thereodically get a 306
"' followed by 304 underscores
oh i actually didn't know/realize "' was still 1 token. I thought you needed the same char
fsr
if you do this it is clear '' vs "
yeah but in game
oh right
like i tried to make that but with things other than underscore but it just didnt work
anyways do ya'll think 319 char U+2581 is possible
oh ok xd
alfo what was your recipes for 305 asterisks?
yeah being such a high codepoint
i mean
even though its one token for 16 of them
good luck
i mean i have to go to bed so if yous get it ill have no chance
I hate how the game completely disregards it