#Unicode

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left briar
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i think it's the same on everyone's screen since discord uses twemoji

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it is labelled :japanese_goblin: which is probably why clover referred to it that way

supple wasp
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and also only in the native client (obviously)

left briar
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oh does apple force their emojis?

supple wasp
left briar
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the thread titles use microsoft emojis for me

supple wasp
left briar
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i see

supple wasp
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and server titles etc.

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emoji are only converted to Twemoji in messages, bios, and reactions I believe

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you can force system font for emoji using `` though

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😭

sonic heart
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😭

lethal nymph
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i have twemoji as my system emoji font lol

deft pulsar
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and \:prepended_backslash:

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(iirc)

supple wasp
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Emoji 17.0 done (all that are under 20 tokens)

wheat ferry
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wait is the Unicode unicoded

supple wasp
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I mean the emoji thread is pretty much dead

supple wasp
wheat ferry
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btw I want to continue but I forgot the techs

wheat ferry
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I found a message

supple wasp
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what

wheat ferry
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I found a recipe I've made so I can remember how to make them

deft pulsar
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late but like

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u could craft with console

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search up craft v14 in this server and u should find my script for it

deft pulsar
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another ping bc you can take my save file

supple wasp
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some of the strangest FDs I've been getting

wheat ferry
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and the AI learned with these uses

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só it's just replicating it

supple wasp
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I mean mainly I was confused by the "hookups" result but

vagrant scarabBOT
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wheat ferry
supple wasp
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maybe ig

wheat ferry
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it comes from somewhere

supple wasp
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I've been outmatched 😭

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what could have POSSIBLY prompted ts

sonic heart
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Seems like people use fe00 for nsfw, so the ai noticed that trend and is replicating it

supple wasp
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yeah

bold elbow
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why is there only 3 language channels

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is it just my discord acting up

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or did you guys actually just delete every single one

timid nebula
bold elbow
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oh it started loading for me

wheat ferry
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revive the Unicode thread

deft pulsar
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Hashtag The #{202f}{202g}{202h}

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/j

primal maple
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.

supple wasp
dapper dawn
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Nice, some of my characters got assigned in 17.0. I get to be in the video now

trim pond
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? is someone working on it rn

wheat ferry
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no

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I wanted to be on it tho 😔

supple wasp
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what video

white prairie
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the video of everything

wheat ferry
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the unicorn documentary

supple wasp
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''

novel echo
supple wasp
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?

deft pulsar
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uni

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co

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de

night dragon
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a

tepid blaze
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b

novel echo
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im surprised its a first discovery

timid nebula
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Why tho

wheat ferry
# novel echo

I might be wrong but I think there are more that one character there

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jokes aside Unicode is a thread where we try to make every single character

deft pulsar
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how do u even get super high codepoint elements

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im lazy to check😔

timid nebula
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It's complicated

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Guess just look at the ib lineages

wheat ferry
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@deft pulsar exampil

deft pulsar
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alright

split wraith
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made a quick collection

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ignore the small element overlap between the two

supple wasp
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Chromebook font confusing ctrl characters for PUA?

wheat ferry
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crazy

chilly fulcrum
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im working on update for sheet, should be done in like a day or two

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most code should be reusable

chilly fulcrum
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nothing changed with hangul so i just copied the entire sheet

chilly fulcrum
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almost done i think

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also idk if they added a new limit but it keeps warning me I am over the limit of 10 million cells

chilly fulcrum
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ok well "done" but the stats table is busted

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i am going to bed but ive opened stats table for fixing

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plus i guess cleaning up and transferring from wherever has them to

chilly fulcrum
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I haven’t checked input tool code yet either so that might not work

white prairie
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oh rubiksmath why is no one here

chilly fulcrum
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wdym

deft pulsar
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has this been made yet

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im too lazy to check

primal maple
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we have most plane C i think

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and plan E

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also

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wair

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how do we have C

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C is unassigned

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why is there a random set of unallocated codepoints in U+2A6xx

chilly fulcrum
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presumably because they just decided ok start at the next boundary and leave room for future additions

chilly fulcrum
chilly fulcrum
chilly fulcrum
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should be done

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hopefully its all in complete working order now

chilly fulcrum
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starting to try to transfer stuff from unassigned over

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cjk done

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what are the green highlights on the unassigned sheet meant to represent?

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i thought at first they meant assigned in 17.0

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but, a lot of them are wrong

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so im not sure

chilly fulcrum
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most seem to be block related, where the greens are grouped as if the whole block got assigned, but there are still gaps so thats why

chilly fulcrum
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16ea0 needs documentation for the Mr. part. I mean a picture is always easier

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same reason i didnt fill out 11B60 block, i dont have game rn so cant easily make a picture.

chilly fulcrum
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god have they changed how sheets work its lagging really hard

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and also I suppose the recipe verification will need to be rerun once we finish putting in the last 300 or so

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wtf google? it seems like in the last day they literally removed the settings to force left to right

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no they just decided to disable a setting

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whatever

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i guess at least it is fixed

chilly fulcrum
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got us to here, just need the documentation for the other 7

chilly fulcrum
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ok well i have installed new helper cause yeah i havent played in ages, might have to cheat to document these items wow i am so bad

chilly fulcrum
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i think i just forgor how to do stuff cause it seems i have no access to the functions defined in the userscript and i dont know why

split wraith
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i think ill try generating a random unicode character and then trying to optimize it

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i got this one

chilly fulcrum
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16EA0 (for documentation purposes)

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1CEE0 (probably bad tool cause pattern broke twice)

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also those tofus are so bad on my screen wtf

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1E6C0 (1E600 1E640 1E680 1E6C0 at image on left here, near the bottom: #1206592567622373446 message)

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1E6FE and FF (pattern break again)

chilly fulcrum
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well its "done" although theres 2 that im not that happy with documentation for, i just had to throw in IB links directly to the item itself. Is what it is though, its technically fine

chilly fulcrum
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you know honestly from the start when I made 15.1 i probably should have made it with the same classifications as the unicode character counts

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this thing

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merge all the han and then youve got a cleaner and more explicit and easy to check version

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we have 104005 in the CJK sheet, so 1007 mismatch purely on classification

chilly fulcrum
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made a copy of unassigned and deleted all new additions and verified the counts match up, 814,730 is the target and thats what i have

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sadly there are some recipes in there that got destroyed by having no apostrophe prepended

chilly fulcrum
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working on a fix

chilly fulcrum
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hopefully input tool for assigned sheet is a lot more robust, although it won't be needed for some time i figure

deft pulsar
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what about

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#increment-next-codepoint

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or even just increment-codepoint?

chilly fulcrum
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I mean you’re about 300 days late but it probably works similar or not at all

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We think we “solved” the entire project except for c0 controls and leading token 0xf1, 0xf2, and 0xf4. Casing was hard but we did kinda solve it

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But yeah if somehow it makes barrier breaks trivial then it would be nice

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cause the other thing we definitely haven’t solved is optimising it

chilly fulcrum
# deft pulsar what about

If you’d like to help then you might still be able to, depending on what you want to do. If not obviously don’t worry

supple wasp
wheat ferry
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wait

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how can we know that the control chars are real?

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if they're not documented

chilly fulcrum
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Wdym

wheat ferry
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weren't the control chars made but not shared with a recipe?

chilly fulcrum
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Some are alive yes

wheat ferry
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how can we know they're real?

chilly fulcrum
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what does that mean

wheat ferry
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how can we know it wasn't made on a private server

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or if they were just Photoshoped or smth?

chilly fulcrum
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we can’t know how or why they’re alive but we know that they are

chilly fulcrum
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?

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I don’t know what you mean

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What’s the actual question

wheat ferry
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how do we know the control chars are alive?

chilly fulcrum
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We checked by combining them and they do stuff

wheat ferry
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how did you combine them if you don't have them?

chilly fulcrum
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You send requests to api or just cheat them in

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It’s why on the controls sheet all the c0 is unticked

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There is recipes but no tick because we don’t have a way to get the root of the tree

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You can just ask the Neal server “what happens when you combine X and Y” and it doesn’t check if you have it because it really cant

wheat ferry
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hmm ok

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thanK you

chilly fulcrum
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all the info is here on the sheet in resources page

chilly fulcrum
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Also just realised I don’t have to keep making apps scripts for every sheet

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One script can access multiple sheets

trim pond
wheat ferry
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no way that's the only heartbeat geometry dash gif

trim pond
chilly fulcrum
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xd

chilly fulcrum
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updated to new unassigned, if that means anything.

deft pulsar
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im so confusedfd

chilly fulcrum
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Why what's wrong

chilly fulcrum
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so we have 260037 out of 262144 codepoints in the range 0 - 3ffff, of the 2107 we don't have:

  • 2048 are surrogates (javascript hates them, probably not possible)
  • 22 are the standard set of impossibles
  • 5 are c0 control character impossibles
    of the remaining 32 we don't have:
  • 1 is the literal null character (not declaring it impossible yet)
  • 26 are c0 controls that are alive but we have no known entry point (missing entry points are U+0001 and U+001B)
  • 5 are genuinely just we havent found them yet (all unassigned in plane 0)
deft pulsar
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null char😭

chilly fulcrum
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well, JS isnt C

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but then JS not being C cuts off 2048 codepoints, so we are 2046 worse off under JS than C

untold crystal
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Hey guys. Long time no see.

Stupid question. I've been bored and tried to use chatGPT to find a way to output the missing chars (u+40000 to u+bffff). And it said that it's impossible to make them. And this was it's reason. Do you think he is right and they are really impossible or is he just spewing nonsense?

The characters in the U+C0000–U+FFFFF range that show up in Infinite Craft aren’t real Unicode symbols — they’re the result of a UTF-16 to UTF-8 decoding bug in the game’s backend.
When the AI model generates text, it sometimes produces broken or mismatched surrogate pairs.
Instead of rejecting these, the game’s text parser accidentally interprets them as valid codepoints in the higher Unicode planes, which is why you can see symbols from that range.
By contrast, the U+40000–U+BFFFF range is properly validated and filtered out, so those characters never appear.
In short, what looks like new Unicode characters are actually encoding glitches caused by how the system handles corrupted surrogate sequences.

chilly fulcrum
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My take is that this is not likely

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Even today trying to get ChatGPT to output U+40000 seems futile

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even though it's vocabulary list is capable of emitting any binary sequence

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it's a smartness issue

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It's not smart enough to know how to say what we want, even in 2025

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I was able to get deep seek to output U+100000 though

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but because it's private use I don't count that as strongly

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but it is technically possible that server side blocks certain surrogates

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ChatGPT always likes to say something is impossible if it cant do it after a few tries

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which is cute

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It is also technically possible that 0xf1 and 0xf2 and 0xf4 tokens are blocked, but I see no reason for this to be true given that malformed UTF makes it through to get replaced by FFFD

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So TLDR: based on patterns from other AI, it is likely just that AI as a whole really struggles to output characters in this range due to the presence of tokens that it never usually sees

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To get 0xf1 output youd probably have to trick it into thinking that it's supposed to output in raw binary

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which is hard when your input is forced to be UTF-8

chilly fulcrum
white prairie
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i guess this is an example

supple wasp
white prairie
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yeah i was inspired by that

chilly fulcrum
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I can't get it to be quite rhat insane but it's extremely similar

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With mathematics sometimes

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It got to this

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(-i)*(-i) = (-i)*(-i) = (-i)*(-i) and kept repeating that for about 6 loops before getting it wrong and saying it equals 1

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Here's the classic "I can't do it it's impossible"

white prairie
deft pulsar
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chatgpt literally tells u what u want to hear

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like it predicts text

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do not trust it to know how itself worka

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even we don't know how our own brains work properly😭 (see: rabies, dementia, misc. mental illness)

supple wasp
primal maple
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= . and a bunch of space variants ?

chilly fulcrum
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Basically

primal maple
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which codepoints are the 5 we just havent found

supple wasp
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there's more than 5

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based on IB,

BMP has ~334 (all CJK Unified Ideographs) SMP has ~181 (not including Egyptian Hieroglyphs; many of which are currently not supported by any known fonts, and therefore I can't easily identify)

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so ~515 total missing codepoints (not including EH)

supple wasp
primal maple
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but there are 5 unassigned codepoints in BMP which we actually just don't have

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apart from that all assigned codepoints in BMP are either found, impossible or c0 control characters

supple wasp
chilly fulcrum
supple wasp
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I have Noto fonts as well as Unifont 17.0, and I look at the goals page and scan for valid glyphs (as opposed to the squared codepoints)

chilly fulcrum
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oh okay

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Including boxed we are missing only 5 though from planes 0-3 that don't have some kind of excuse for not being found

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But yeah I guess not uploaded to IB

supple wasp
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and the reason them not being on IB is significant, is I'd made these collections a couple months ago and someone had finally uploaded some codepoints but these had still not been uploaded

chilly fulcrum
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We do have all from U+FF00 to U+3FFFF if the sheets are correct

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with no gaps at all, because no impossible or anything in that range

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So I guess the gaps are fillable on IB if we figure out what links it's missing

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Most of us did have slightly bugged saves

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so even if we did upload them all there might be a missing link

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Let me get the ones missing up

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U+03A2, U+05EB, U+05EC, U+05ED, U+05EE

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those are the missing 5

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So I can list them all really
Everything we don't have from planes 0-3:
U+0000: null
U+0001 to U+0008: C0 controls, no entry found but alive
U+0009 to U+000D: whitespace, impossible via trimming
U+000E to U+001A: C0 controls, no entry found but alive
U+001B: Escape (C0 control), alive but no known recipe
U+001C to U+001F: C0 controls, no entry found but alive
U+0020: space, impossible via trimming
U+002E: period, impossible by we don't know why but it might be database related
U+003D: equals sign, impossible via .split("=")
U+00A0: no break space, impossible via trimming
U+03A2: unassigned, not found
U+05EB to U+05EE: unassigned, not found
U+1680: Ogham Space, impossible via trimming however used to be possible before trimming was implemented
U+2000 to U+200A: impossible via trimming
U+2028: line separator, impossible via trimming
U+2029: paragraph separator, impossible via trimming
U+202F: narrow no break space, impossible via trimming
U+205F: medium mathematical space, impossible via trimming
U+3000: ideographic space, impossible via trimming
U+D800 to U+DFFF: surrogates, probably impossible because JavaScript errors on lone surrogates in most cases
U+FEFF: zero width no break space, impossible via trimming and also probably because JS will remove it because it thinks it's the byte order mark

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Anything not on that list from 0 to 3FFFF should in theory be able to be put into IB

chilly fulcrum
supple wasp
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but good point

supple wasp
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are we documenting VS variations?

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we should

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its annoying that Windows' font doesn't support them though

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neither does Noto...

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what font DOES support these

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brother

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that's just sad 🥀

chilly fulcrum
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its more of an "emoji-like" thing, so honestly the variation sequences could go there.

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i dont exactly know what you did for all your entries in your emoji sheet

supple wasp
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emojis are only affected by VS15

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non-emoji characters are affected by the other variation selectors (as pictured)

chilly fulcrum
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where did you get the list of emoji variation sequences and even non-rgi ones?

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we can definitely make new if you want

supple wasp
chilly fulcrum
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yeah but wheres the official list

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my assigned characters sheet was easy enough to do, i used this file: (wait its 224MB)

supple wasp
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but if you mean the COUNTLESS ZWJ combos

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a lot of them I just did in bunches

chilly fulcrum
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i figure theyre in a file somewhere on ucd

supple wasp
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(there's so many)

chilly fulcrum
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somewhere buried in there

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should be official lists of something

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this one maybe, but there might be stuff you want thats missing

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e.g. that doesnt have rifle, because it wasnt officially accepted as an emoji but it got a codepoint and glyph anyway

primal maple
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03a2 is so random

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how do we not have it

chilly fulcrum
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skill issue

supple wasp
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deleted

wheat ferry
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deleted

sand hearth
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hey guys

deft pulsar
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?

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hi

wheat ferry
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the hi

deft pulsar
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the "hi Mr. " situation is CRAZY...

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/j

chilly fulcrum
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?

wheat ferry
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The "hi Mr. " SITUATION just got WORSE

deft pulsar
misty cargo
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honestly forgot about this place

deft pulsar
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okay

rose lava
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what happened to that one unicode related element with some c0 control as emoji

rose lava
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update: it was just asd's save malfunction

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i think

night dragon
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new unicdes

supple wasp
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whar

night dragon
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uhh

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the thing

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18.0 pipeline

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emojis are cool ig

supple wasp
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did they really propose a monarch butterfly so the existing butterfly could be blue (presumably for Bluesky?)

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also pickle to differentiate from the cucumber (meant to be cut up)?

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and why we need meteor when we got ☄️ (comet)

night dragon
# supple wasp when the 🦋 and 🥒

for "compability"

for those 3 emojis different vendors display different things

ie for butterfly some do red and some do blue
for pickle im not exactly sure
for meteor some display comet some display a meteor

supple wasp
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the pickle thing, the actual emoji currently existing is a cucumber, and several vendors have it diced with a light-colored gren shade. The pickle is intended to be a non-cut darker versiion

night dragon
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also apple core emoji got completley yoinked

supple wasp
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I was just doing a study on this emoji recently

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I didn't even consider the color could bea differentiator between "comet" and "meteor"

supple wasp
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oh its twitter emoji stickers

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yeah not accurate

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but ok

wooden maple
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unicorn

sonic heart
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damn it just skipped 03A2 😔

supple wasp
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maybe because it's reserved 🫠

wooden maple
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exactly like why u not thinking that u dumb bro frf rf r fr f rf?

supple wasp
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can you not

wooden maple
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ok

wooden maple
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bro unicode involved numbers

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which involved

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you guessed it

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67

rose lava
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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WHAT

white prairie
wheat ferry
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what

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WHAT

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WHAT

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WHWARW.ASD

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AEGW

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WFGAT

finite laurel
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c0 got c0?

supple wasp
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hugeee

untold crystal
sonic heart
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please share the recipe 😭

deft pulsar
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tab🔥

wooden maple
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U RN:

rose lava
sonic heart
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wowww

rose lava
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not fd because i was on phone and didn't have access to pc

sonic heart
supple wasp
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amazing

untold crystal
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Which was the script that shows the character name on above the element?

untold crystal
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Ah, yea. Thanks.

sonic heart
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yoooooooooooo

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finally dude

sonic heart
# rose lava "hi{09}"

"{09}"
-# edit: first combination is "hi{09}" + "hi{09}", not "hi{09}hi{09}" + "hi{09}hi{09}" lol

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quoted U+0009

sonic heart
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it feels so weird to actually have this 😭

wheat ferry
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yo WHAT

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but we cant mke just {9} right?

sonic heart
wheat ferry
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but is it impossible or just extremely hard?

sonic heart
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impossible

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its a whitespace

wheat ferry
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oh ok

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hmm cant we make 10 to 1f from it?

sonic heart
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so its not easily incrementable

wheat ferry
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ok

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still absolutely crazy tho

white prairie
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U+0000 null character when

untold crystal
heady escarp
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it's THAT easy to get a c0 character??????

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can this be incremented or decremented??

sonic heart
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Bruh

heady escarp
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XDD simpler "{09}"

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can u guys try to increment or decrement it btw?

heady escarp
deft pulsar
heady escarp
deft pulsar
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.asciidoc😭

heady escarp
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i ran 2sb on Append Character Tab + "2lw" and '2lw' and none worked

sonic heart
heady escarp
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got this for no reason

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the 2 forbidden characters together

heady escarp
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wait how is '{83}' not in browser ??

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THATS A FIRST DISCOVERY??

tough osprey
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I wanna try to get U+0121eb, any tips?

heady escarp
heady escarp
white prairie
half night
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More {09} entries, for ideas

deft pulsar
primal maple
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crazy how now we have a c0 character

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and how fast it went from "this might be impossible to get" to "oh yeah, its common knowledge how to get that" lol

zenith nacelle
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has anyone tried tya for this lol

deft pulsar
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how would you

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how

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why

zenith nacelle
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Just maybe

deft pulsar
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actually maybe

zenith nacelle
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maybe 🥺

deft pulsar
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#q('\x3d{9}' + '\x08') // =

zenith nacelle
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maybe 🥺 I try now

deft pulsar
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Good luck

zenith nacelle
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I need String.append('{9}')

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but there's no recipe 🥺

sonic heart
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What

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It wasn't even difficult for me lol

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I'm not on my PC rn so I can't share the recipe

zenith nacelle
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I admit I suck at this game 🥺

deft pulsar
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ur good at #w

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#q*

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😁

sonic heart
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Curly 09 + prepend mr = mr. Curly 09

zenith nacelle
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how i get “{9}”

sonic heart
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Uhh I can't remember

sand coral
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Not very optimal String.append('{9}')

sonic heart
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My route involved Append '09' and Mr. Append('09') I'm pressy sure lol

deft pulsar
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anyways this is now {9} thread lol

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bc

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{9}

sonic heart
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Well what else would it be about

deft pulsar
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high codepoint

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unicode chars

tough osprey
sand coral
tough osprey
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oh lol

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i thought they meant "U+0121eb" was on the browser

zenith nacelle
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has anyone made anything from 01 to 0A except 09?

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or is that the only one

primal maple
zenith nacelle
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I mean they did "hack" in some and did find recipes

wheat ferry
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werent some of those discoverde by the individual

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and never shared for some reason

regal fulcrum
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since last active here

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youre still active fight

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right

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i got a question im tryna optimize a route rn and can users without the script get capitalized/uncapitalized variants or nah

wheat ferry
regal fulcrum
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okok

wheat ferry
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if you got EXAMPLE first, you will not be able get Example, example, eXaMpLe etc

regal fulcrum
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im trying to optimize smtn

tough osprey
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random tip: Use element: "next-codepoint-of-sequence" as it helped me get a lot of emojis and unicodes

supple wasp
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yes

trim pond
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wow nice 🙂 can you make other c0s from 09?

deft pulsar
#

how would we

trim pond
#

incrementing perhaps?

trim pond
#

@rose lava don't forget about this message from asd #1206592567622373446 message 👺

zenith nacelle
deft pulsar
#

:3333

finite laurel
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we didnt get it in isolation though

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does it really count

deft pulsar
#

IM SOBBING

#

WDYM

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😭😭😭🙏

deft pulsar
#

for the funny :3c0

finite laurel
#

the c0

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we only have it quoted

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(yes i know U+09 is whitespace so its impossible)

zenith nacelle
weak spindle
white prairie
white prairie
wheat ferry
wheat ferry
#

what else is left

sonic heart
#

other C0s

wheat ferry
#

so 00 to 0f minus 09

sonic heart
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00 to 1f

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minus 0a (impossible) and 09

#

this doesn't seem to work 😔

trim pond
sonic heart
trim pond
#

oh yeah. block reset then to 0001?

sonic heart
#

how tho

trim pond
#

maybe reversing with some c1s or low ascii? (or some 0a 20000 c0000 d0000

supple wasp
trim pond
heady escarp
sonic heart
#

surely getting U+000B vertical tabulation from U+0009 horizontal tabulation shouldn't be that difficult

deft pulsar
#

who uses horizontal tab?

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only like

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a lot of coders

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who uses vertical tab

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😭

#

like

#

few

sonic heart
sonic heart
deft pulsar
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is that like

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an esolang

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or a person

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or sth

sonic heart
#

@ dug9315

deft pulsar
#

ok so a person

sonic heart
#

tab is useful to like import and export sheets

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n stuff

deft pulsar
#

isnt that horixontal tab tho

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.tsv files

sonic heart
#

ye

deft pulsar
#

they use \t not \v iirc

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and we want the \v character

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vertical tab

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i think that's the escape char for it

half night
#

I'm away from my computer again, but I was trying with various Append Ascii 1, Append Control 1, 0x01 type variations, etc., with no success. Best targets I found were "hi Vt100 " and "hi Terminal ", which worked with multiple Tab elements (Append Character Tab, Append Tab, Append Vertical Tab, Tab), but no luck getting a different control.

sonic heart
supple wasp
#

technically true

untold crystal
sonic heart
#

tf

sonic heart
deft pulsar
#

isnt that a

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newline

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char?

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it isn't \n tho so id7k 😔

sonic heart
white prairie
#

newline is \u000A

zenith nacelle
#

it doesnt seem to like enquiry

rose lava
#

some of the c0s might not work due to stop sequence

amber steppe
#

wait since when did we get u+0009 in an element??

primal maple
deft pulsar
#

since we found

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"hi " + Append Character Tab

trim pond
#

#1206592567622373446 message try this
but with 0009

primal maple
trim pond
#

i mean append 009

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not 000a

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what i'd hope is that it would skip straight to 000e
or block reset to 0001

primal maple
#

?

trim pond
#

well i think asd (iirc) was able to block reset c0s and it was to 0001. and i don't think 0000 is possible, but i don't remember now.

primal maple
#

What the

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Can someone fix this

sonic heart
#

i saw that

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its funny, yall should keep it

supple wasp
heady escarp
wheat ferry
#

i really wish it would work

zenith nacelle
#

I tried too it's almost 4am and I still can't get anything

wheat ferry
#

go to sleep bub

zenith nacelle
zenith nacelle
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juts in case

sonic heart
wheat ferry
#

????????????????????

sonic heart
wheat ferry
#

why

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then i give up

wheat ferry
#

ill still def save those recipes becuse those are probably really good for future reference (when building tya tech stuff)

sonic heart
# wheat ferry why

Codepoints have not worked for C0 at all, the only C0 discovered has been through semantics

wheat ferry
#

damn

mystic cliff
#

if anything really

deft pulsar
#

omg

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im still pink

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crazy

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let'ss revert that one

white prairie
deft pulsar
#

uhh

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what fcolor was i bc i alr forgot

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i'll go with strawberry :3

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strawbie :3

rose lava
#

codepage 437

sonic heart
supple wasp
#

what

deft pulsar
#

what the heck is a "{?}hi Mr. ' 😭

zenith nacelle
deft pulsar
#

i mean that doesnt matter

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it cna be anything but like

zenith nacelle
#

it can also be a space :P

deft pulsar
#

mhm

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tab is kinda a space lol

rose lava
#

llama2 7f

zenith nacelle
#

what does the <s>421</s> do

rose lava
#

the thing that matters there is </s>

deft pulsar
#

how does one even obtain "{9}<s>421</s>" 🔥

zenith nacelle
#

half ways ig

rose lava
heady escarp
trim pond
#

but crazy 7f

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btw what is the meaning of </s>?

deft pulsar
#

isnt it delete all previous text but keep as randomness seed or something

misty cargo
rose lava
trim pond
#

7f?

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or block resetting 0009 to 0001?

zenith nacelle
#

who knows

rose lava
#

obviously cuts off

tardy flame
#

These might be potentially useful in unlocking higher Unicode numbers

#

After limited testing, they're not useful in unlocking Unicode numbers in the U+???? series of elements. However, it did work with the 0x???? series of elements. Proof of concept here:

0x0001 + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x0002
0x0002 + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x0003
0x0003 + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x0004
0x0004 + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x0005
0x0005 + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x0006
0x0006 + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x0007
0x0007 + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x0008
0x0008 + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x0009
0x0009 + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x000A
0x000A + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x000b
0x000b + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x000c
0x000c + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x000d
0x000d + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x000e
0x000e + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x000f
0x000f + Add 1 In Hexadecimal = 0x0010```

The `Subtract 1 In Hexadecimal` worked as well for the `0x????` series of elements as well.
supple wasp
#

cool

trim pond
#

lol why does Ctrl + Shift + V on chinese/japanese characters into Notepad++ give U+0016 (Data Link Escape) ?

rose lava
deft pulsar
#

what about

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#q('\x7f \x3d ........) // {7f} =

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like if u end 2nd element with 7f

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actually no

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imo {9} is only copying a previous token

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there's no control char token invention happening (YET), AI is just panicking and returning U+FFFD

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#c0controlcharqstr /j

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@zenith nacelle rate this prefix from 0 to 0

zenith nacelle
deft pulsar
#

WHAT

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wait isnt that like

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1 or undefined (or sometimes 0)

#

-# i think so at least

zenith nacelle
#

its undefined

deft pulsar
#

it's nice to define it 1 tho

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eg combinatorics

half night
#

Got {1b} to generate, haven't isolated it.

half night
#

Looks like Prepend Control Sequence is the main actor here. I have a few entries like this.

deft pulsar
#

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

#

1B WAS FOUnd

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🔥

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'

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interesting

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wait no was this cheated in maybe

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imo, Delete/Remove/Without (The) (Word) Terminal would maybe be helpful

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that's 12 tools to try

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and also Subtract/Removes/Deletes

half night
tardy flame
#

What script do you use to display Unicode character info above the element?

deft pulsar
#

this does not feel real

white prairie
deft pulsar
#

unstable

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it likes giving {1b}[ instead of just {1b}

deft pulsar
#

hey @stoic bobcat just an FYI

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we actually did get \b this time

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i think

#

so like that might have issues similar to whatever happened last time

white prairie
deft pulsar
#

I pinged yui for not

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like

#

id7k tho

half night
#

Last of the night

deft pulsar
#
await f(`"\x1b[0m\x1b[0m"`,`"hi"`)
await f(`"\x1b[0m\x1b[0mhi"`,`Delete The "m"`)
await f(`"\x1b[0mhi"`,`Delete The "m"`)
await f(`"\x1b[0hi"`,`Delete The 0`)
await f(`"\x1b[hi"`,`Delete The Hi`)
await f(`"\x1b[i"`,`“]”`)
await f(`“\x1b[i”`,`“]”`)
await f(`“\x1b[i]”`,`String.prepend("#")`)
*/```
white prairie
sand coral
finite laurel
#

is this the first c0 we have a recipe for?

rose lava
zenith nacelle
#

actually block resetted it is it called that

rose lava
#

hope this helps 👍

zenith nacelle
#

maybe

deft pulsar
#

WHAT

#

zWHATt????

white prairie
#

also it isn't even fd what

deft pulsar
zenith nacelle
deft pulsar
zenith nacelle
#

alr thanks

amber steppe
#

2 more controls?

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how many do you have

deft pulsar
#

we have1

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1e

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1f

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3

#

9

vagrant scarabBOT
#

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zenith nacelle
#

when did we have 1e and 1f

rose lava
#

1b 19 1a 1c 1d 1e 1f 3 4 5 7-1 7 8

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1a one is just first 1b + 19

amber steppe
#

WHAT

zenith nacelle
#

wtf

#

I cant read a single bit of this

#

how did you even isolate it

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Just got it to isolate

glad roost
#

You guys should have called me

#

I literally overlooked that for like six trillion years

wheat ferry
#

EHAT TTEB FUCK

glad roost
zenith nacelle
#

Just realized he put 7-1 instead of 6 👍

zenith nacelle
#

guess what this is
it's || "{3} {4} {5}" ||

#

I cant read any of this 😭

deft pulsar
#

@wheat ferry control chars

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{1b} had a sensible entry

deft pulsar
zenith nacelle
deft pulsar
deft pulsar
#

meow....

zenith nacelle
#

I need a font that tells me what anything is

#

is it bad that im using invisible characters to token cutoff invisible characters 😭

#

Just got 1f 👍

sonic heart
#

EHAT IS THISS

zenith nacelle
#

I cant see shit on mobile

#

my method for "{0e}" was so bad

#

from {0e} and {0f} to {1b}

white prairie
zenith nacelle
white prairie
zenith nacelle
#

genuinely don't know

sand coral
lethal nymph
#

asd randomly found out one of them was alive and we "accidentally" made the other ones from that

finite laurel
#

how do we know 1b was gotten legit

#

(and 7f apparently)

lethal nymph
#

7f was gotten with llama 3 originally

lethal nymph
finite laurel
#

ok i get it now

finite laurel
lethal nymph
#

i'm not sure more than 10 people knew about the hashtag exploit

zenith nacelle
#

when's Neal gonna find out about this

#

that we have idk 03 to 09 and 0e to 1f

wheat ferry
#

wait was bell discovered?

zenith nacelle
#

unless you're talking about another bell

zenith nacelle
#

there's missing recipes but if no one asks I won't send them

untold crystal
#

it's possible to isolate all of them from 1b. the lineages are too big so I won't spend time making them.

And also I wanted to submit my savefile to ib for the recipes but it's too large

wheat ferry
untold crystal
#

I also tried that for curiosity. For example the recipe for 000e was more than 5000 steps before optimization an about 1100 steps after the optimizer... anyway, i'll let other figure it out.

glad roost
#

we’re just two step away

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just two step, shouldn’t be that bad

white prairie
#

and then copy it to ib's lineage optimizer

#

double optimization 🤯

night dragon
#

its possible...

#

\good lck

#

luak

zenith nacelle
#

1017 step for 0e

untold crystal
#

got the last 2

zenith nacelle
#

how??

#

recipe 🥺

untold crystal
#

these are the last steps.

zenith nacelle
#

unreadable 😭

zenith nacelle
trim pond
#

wow, so all c0s and all c1s (that are possible) are done from base elements now. so the only things left we can do are the 5 missing unassigned in plane 1, and then planes 12, 14 and 15?

(+ the other planes, but we don't have an entry)

sand coral
#

quoted 2028 also is not found yet

trim pond
#

and it is possible?

sand coral
#

idk

zenith nacelle
#

idk how I cant get 10000 20000 30000 1d

untold crystal
zenith nacelle
zenith nacelle
#

no bc i want it and need it 🥺

#

skill issue i still cant get it 😭

untold crystal
zenith nacelle
#

really helps thank you

#

so that's why it wasn't fd

#

also its ¶ + {01} = {02}

untold crystal
#

yea

tardy flame
lethal nymph
#

a consequence of this was actually very well known at that time (hashtagged elements not being dead), but nobody put 2 and 2 together except laurasia, pb and a few others (who decided to keep it a secret, until it got patched)

tardy flame
#

What was the anticheat intended to prevent?

lethal nymph
#

it prevents from people combining things whose neal cased form is not yet in the database

#

basically it's why elements can be "dead"

zenith nacelle
#

so are we missing {b} to {d} in c0

tardy flame
#

A quick search for "hashtag exploit" showed the oldest known mention was on August 16th, 2024 where it had been fixed by that point, so the period of time where at least one person knew about it and was not yet fixed had to have been before that date.

#

Found another post which used "hash exploit" instead that was made one day before the oldest known mention of "hashtag exploit".

wheat ferry
lethal nymph
#

but it was still working as of this message #1215495041049436170 message

#

so it likely existed from when neal case was introduced, until somewhere between 20th-23rd of march

heady escarp
#

what the hell??????

primal maple
#

wait is all c0 found now?

#

@deft pulsar

zenith nacelle
#

I think {0b} to {0d} isnt

#

unless it is

primal maple
#

The spreadsheet is not updated

#

is anyone with editing rights able to update it

supple wasp
trim pond
#

The Control Characters sheet. it still says that we don't know where 0001 came from

#

and no c0s are marked as obtained

supple wasp
#

oh that sheet

#

wrong channel mb

#

I was thinking this was AWWM

wheat ferry
#

wait didn't almost every char had at least the quoted version?

untold crystal
#

nope. I only created the quoted version for the elements that had a small and capital version (so I revived all capital letters).

wheat ferry
#

oh ok

glad roost
#

by the way, if we can craft&isolate 0b~0d, this might be our last chance to recontinue #1317899145423622224

glad roost
#

this sheet does claim 0b~0d is impossible

trim pond
#

those are unquoted. idk about quoted

#

cause it also says 0009 and 000a are impossible but we have those in quotes

zenith nacelle
trim pond
#

oh wait sry no 0a is impossible like =

#

fsr i thought we got it

deft pulsar
#

isnt that nbsp

#

wait no

#

a0

night dragon
#

ucinode

wheat ferry
#

Unicod 🐟

tough osprey
#

all my unicode discoveries as of 12/14/2025 ig

deft pulsar
#

what is your name 😭

zenith nacelle
#

bc \75 is =

#

in oct what ever that is

lone iris
#

Can you name a unicode that you haven't done yet?

zenith nacelle
amber steppe
#

and of course {00}

#

/j

rose lava
#

U+40000 U+80000 U+100000

rose lava
#

have we tried incrementing U+dxxx to U+xxxxx

trim pond
#

wdym?

wheat ferry
#

didn't know where to post so I'll put it here to revive the chet

#

char

#

chat

supple wasp
#

cool

soft harness
#

hihihi

#

chat

#

chat

#

cha

vagrant scarabBOT
#

success @hyaiuer muted

Reason: Rule 2: No Spam. No repeated messages, inappropriate pings, mangled text, link spam, etc.
Duration: 59 minutes and 55 seconds
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wooden maple
#

a six a seven

#

BRO WE DEADASS LEAFY

#

WHAT THE FUCK BRO

little pumice
#

2 got muted

#

you didN'T

#

but you spammed 🥀

#

sayong nonsense

#

every thread I go I just see you as the most recent message

#

you didN'T contribute ANYthing

zenith nacelle
#

of slop, Quality over Quantity

#

and i dont think any of that is quality

little pumice
soft harness
#

the post is approaching 100k messages

left briar
#

if it's over 100k and someone deletes one message then it shows on the counter as 99999

#

and then it goes from there

soft harness
#

akrhuhejxhxnsksbxh

tough osprey
#

i can't find 1 unicode that hasn't been doen

#

done

wheat ferry
#

kibe

sonic heart
tough osprey
trim pond
tough osprey
#

how are you even supposed to get unassigned

supple wasp
#

you don't get unassigned

#

you are born unassigned

wheat ferry
tough osprey
#

ive done that before

#

also i found out all the fds i got before were actually the non-renderable elements combined together

supple wasp
little pumice
#

you people got no element like I have an element
I got the

white prairie
#

huh?

stray valve
little pumice
white prairie
little pumice
#

idk if I'm explaining it right or not

drifting mountain
#

do unicode characters, that do smth with letter after it, works for elements display name?

supple wasp
#

huh?

drifting mountain
#

like U+202e

#

right-to-left overrride

supple wasp
#

I mean the element name is just like normal text, so yeah?

deft pulsar
#

yep

wheat ferry
#

unexpected

vernal kraken
#

"remove Hi" and "remove Mr" are so peak

#

(i have fd on "remove Mr")

soft harness
#

100 thousans

#

jus using infinibrowser to like

#

take recipes

#

i dont think its cheating because im not doing 141 thousand oher unicodes

supple wasp
#

what

wheat ferry
#

what

soft harness
#

pl

primal maple
#

why is even unicode dead now

trim pond
#

assigned got finished, unassigned has got left either unreasonably hard unassigned, currently unknown how to get unassigned, or f3 unassigned grind. and i guess noone has time, energy or motivation (or they forgot). i personally don't have either of those and also scripts i used got broken (didn't bother to try to fix really) so i kinda stopped playing then.

supple wasp
#

assigned got finished? iirc there was a bunch of codepoints from Unicode 17.0 or earlier that were not on IB

trim pond
#

maybe not on IB but in the sheet, they all have recipes

deft pulsar
#

doesnt rly fit here bc alr discovered but whatever

wheat ferry
mighty shore
#

What is the craziest Unicode jumbled mess found?

slate whale
mighty shore
slate whale
#

Idk here is an example

#

@mighty shore

lone iris
#

Hey guys can we make
U+1FAEA unicode?

#

🫪

zenith nacelle
zenith nacelle
lone iris
chilly fulcrum
#

I noticed that ChatGPT had started emitting encoding or language errors recently. For some reason it seems to specifically be an Indian script every time and I wonder if it is UTF-8 related or if it's being poisoned

primal maple
chilly fulcrum
#

Yeah it's recently started

primal maple
#

I just resent the message

#

and it fixed after that

#

idk what caused it

chilly fulcrum
#

Well the answer is it is generating tokens that aren't what you'd expect

primal maple
#

also i havent talked to it in a couple days, i might check if its still happening on my end

chilly fulcrum
#

it's not common it's semi rare

primal maple
chilly fulcrum
#

Well it could be getting poisoned

primal maple
#

i thought its training would have made it stick to one language

#

also how do text models get poisoned

#

im only familiar with image model poison

chilly fulcrum
#

I assume in a similar way. I don't know anything about image models but in general models just respond to the training data they are fed

#

If its sensitive to something and someone finds it, you could change behaviour from rather small tweaks in training data

#

Havent checked in a while to see if any models are capable of generating the 0xf1 token without exotic input

primal maple
chilly fulcrum
#

thats the thing

#

im not sure any standard models are good enough to figure out how to do that

wheat ferry
sonic heart
primal maple
primal maple
#

Happened to me again, now the random foreign word is बाहर

supple wasp
primal maple
#

uhh

#

chatgpt what are you doing 🤭

chilly fulcrum
#

this just happened

#

Coriolis force is strong enough for solid ორგანიზed rotation

#

lmao

#

its obviously trying to say "embedded"

#

i think anyway

#

the suspect section in bytes is E1 83 9D E1 83 A0 E1 83 92 E1 83 90 E1 83 9C E1 83 98 E1 83 96 65 64

supple wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

well it could be something else

#

it claims it was saying organised

#

okay i believe that honestly

#

dropping the E1 83 off each unit

#

9D A0 92 90 9C 98 96 65 64

#

dunno if that aligns with anything

#

if 9D = o, then 9E = p, 9F = q, A0 = r (checks out)

#

the rest doesnt tho

#

it would say 'ordbnjhed'

#

so i guess its not that

#
ordbnjhed
psecokied
qtfdpljed
rugeqmked
svhfrnled
twigsomed
uxjhtpned
vykiuqoed
wzljvrped
xamkwsqed
ybnlxtred
zcomyused
adpnzvted
beqoawued
cfrpbxved
dgsqcywed
ehtrdzxed
fiuseayed
gjvtfbzed
hkwugcaed
ilxvhdbed
jmywieced
knzxjfded
loaykgeed
mpbzlhfed
nqcamiged
#

none of those look like words

#

so i guess it wasnt just a straight up offset then

#

although... "twigsomed"

#

i mean ehhhh....

#

if you squint, then maybe

#

actually yeah the first letter

#

it spells out organized

#

and i guess my fault for not putting a z cause not american

primal maple
#

btw does claude or any of the other major text bots do this or is it only chatgpt?

sonic heart
#

I think it's only gpt