#Unicode
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Thanks
uhe styles
block starts in the range U+db040 - U+dbfc0
block starts in the range U+dc040 - U+dcfc0
alfo do you take more time building the lineages that actually getting the stuff from the lineages perchance
well it only takes a bit of additional time.
elaborate "bit of additional time"
somewhere around 20% - 50% more time?
Hi, Qadi! 👋
but like, i pretty much only do it for the block starts
Idk how Alfo does it, it’s so organised and there’s so many, where do they fit 😭
it looks like a badge instead of something IC like screenshot
U+dbece
did someone make a sheet for unassigned
or at least a sheet that has actual stats for unassigned
yes, it is linked in Resources in the main sheet
Ya
a bit late but yeah i did its in resources tab
U+DBounce
U+dbf11 forgot to post this yesterday
before and after (also don't mind the random char that i forgot to make). so in total 106 lost fds, which is 0.162%
before/after what
wow Plane 13 finished ;-;
+200 question marks, +2.8k coins, +2.6k unicorns, +3.6k butterflies, +3.4k thinking, +600 wands, +200 flower pots, +2.2k shrugs, +300 otters, +1.9k robots
With what? Also I do need to get around to using your stats script… it’s very impressive you made it though. Can you ping me with link so I can find in morning? I didn’t ask previously that’s all. Maybe leave a marker in the message so I can search, that way I won’t need to ask again
with a python program
#1206592567622373446 message
a4i99Xwe914
it might take some time before discord makes it searchable
just reload client si
There’s an Oreo ad we have rn and it’s like “cream on left we name dog something sensible… cream on the right we name it our wifi password” and then it cuts to the guy chasing his dog while yelling “get back here QWERTY123 lowercase j capital y 3 underscore 7 x a capital K …”
oreo ads suck ngl
I am oreo cookie and this is owen wilson
script for counting how many IC coins you have
run with await IC_coins();
function getLength(str) {
return Array.from(str).length;
}
function arrayify(elements) {
const arr = [11];
for (const element of elements) {
arr.push(element.discovered ? 15 : 2^9 - 137, 12, element.emoji ? element.emoji.codePointAt(0) : 10, 11);
}
return arr;
}
function exp(x) {
const bs = [1, 1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1];
const n = 22601911;
let y = 1;
for (let b of bs) {
if (b) y = (y * x) % n;
x = (x * x) % n;
}
return y;
}
function encrypt(arr, strict_encryption) {
let encrypted = [];
let i = strict_encryption ? Math.floor(Math.random() * 1000) : 42;
for (let val of arr) {
if (strict_encryption) val += Math.floor(Math.random() * 1000);
i += val;
encrypted.push(exp(i));
i = exp(val);
}
return encrypted;
}
async function IC_coins(strict_encryption = false) {
let elements = JSON.parse(localStorage.getItem("infinite-craft-data")).elements;
elements = elements.filter(element => getLength(element.text) === 1);
const arr = arrayify (elements);
const encrypted = encrypt(arr, strict_encryption);
const target = [14771562, 15052631, 19690534, 5025381];
let count = 0;
for (let i = 0; i <= encrypted.length - target.length; i++) {
count++;
for (let j = 0; j < target.length; j++) {
if (encrypted[i + j] !== target[j]) {
count--;
break;
}
}
}
console.log(`You have ${count} IC coins`);
}
real
ah wait
what happens if you turn on strict encryption
fixed
you get 0 coins every time (99.9999% of the time, i'd say)
also it's not this function, this doesn't work
you have to use the one I added to the script
i'm pretty sure this returns length 2 for >10000
maybe 0-99 is a more reasonable number considering how normal encryption uses 42
?
try copying the whole script again and running
thats what I did ...
sorry, somehow i removed a thing accidentally, now it's fixed
You have 0 IC coins
yep, it's not surprising
same as with getLength return item.length
nah, item.length doesn't work correctly
you just shouldn't have those element then smh
yeah we should just focus on the 1/17th of unicode and ban everyone who gets stuff above U+ffff
i agree
how many ic coins do you have?
i dont know
run the script
counts your ic coins
Ok lemme quickly input the parameters in Sapphire
can u explain how it works
is it something with unassigned chars
or chars from cxxxx to fxxxx, since most people dont have those
i mean.. i could've just made it be like a 7 line script if i didn't want to make it mysterious >:)
no
even if it was 7 lines i wouldnt understand it
is it having a very high amount of elements/FDs?
no
having C0 in ur savefile?
no
i noticed a couple low-depth recipes arent in the sheet
Earth + Water = Plant
Earth + Plant = Tree
Tree + Water = River
Earth + River = Delta
River + Tree = Paper
Paper + Plant = Book
Book + Earth = Library
Book + Library = Knowledge
Knowledge + River = Wisdom
Delta + Wisdom = Omega // 10
Earth + Paper = Map
Map + Water = Treasure
Map + Treasure = X
X + River = Ocean
Ocean + Ocean = Sea
Sea + X = C
C + Omega = Ω // 17 ::
Ω + Paper = ∞ // 18 ::
here's a couple character recipes
Earth + Wind = Dust
Dust + Dust = Sand
Sand + Water = Beach
Beach + Fire = Sun
Beach + Sun = Vacation
Dust + Vacation = Dustin
Beach + Dustin = Stranger Things
Earth + Stranger Things = Upside Down
Sun + Wind = Sunflower
Fire + Wind = Smoke
Smoke + Sunflower = Smoke Signal
Smoke Signal + Wind = Message
Message + Earth = Letter // 13
Letter + Sunflower = A
A + Upside Down = ∀ (U+2200) // 15 ::
A + Fire = B
B + Upside Down = Ɔ (U+0186) // 17 ::
Ɔ + Upside Down = Ɛ (U+0190) // 18 ::
A + Ɛ = Æ (U+00C6) // 19 ::
∀ + Ɛ = ∃ (U+2203) // 20 ::
∃ + ∀ = ∄ (U+2204) // 21 ::
∃ + Ɔ = Ø (U+00D8) // 22 ::
∃ + Ɛ = ℵ (U+2135) // 23 ::
∄ + Ø = ∞ (U+221E) // 24 ::
∞ + Upside Down = ♾ (U+267E) // 25 ::
∞ + Ɛ = ℮ (U+212E) // 26 ::
Message + Wind = Whisper
Whisper + Earth = Grave
Grave + A = H
H + Upside Down = ♃ (U+2643) // 30 ::
♃ + Dust = ♄ (U+2644) // 31 ::
♄ + Ɔ = ♆ (U+2646) // 32 ::
man you can put the notes in the comments, not the actual recipe
just to mark that theyre low-depth
no i mean si deki write A + B = C // 1 :: U+2345
What is this doing and where is it from
agreed
ah yes very readable lineage
Me after forgetting the 10000 20000 30000 e0000 tech
uhh
that’s too many tokens
I forgot
what tech is this
where does it lead to
Incrementing
yeah but what do u get from those specific elements
someone have the thing to add in MBS to see invisible char?
-# found it
where do you craft H?
where
#dev message
could be a good idea to add a file that has all/ a lot of different tooltips for MBS in the userscripts github in mbs folder
easier to find and some people might have thought of a super good tooltip
that would be a good idea, but probably need to ask Mikarific or Natasquare or smth
yes and no, also obtaining unassigned
for the moment no one has obtained anything from Plane 4 to 11: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1247335166334996543/1331282940415578203/RIn2eCx.png?ex=67910d5b&is=678fbbdb&hm=b7593be76de3bc884ca3fe98aa359038883e219feb58e0239515500e4f3d2fc9&
@velvet dagger care to change your mind?
how could chatgpt disrespect such a beautiful quote
why am i still here
how exciting
ef080-bf
simplified lineage
indeed
Glowy are you ok
yes there is still Invalid Recipes in CJK (and maybe in recipes that got changed too but that take awfully long time to verify and i can't really verify everyday yet, i need to do change to my db to be able to store differents recipes for each char, and a lot more store them in a more optimised way cause rn its really not at any time optimised):
no, i'm glowy
thanks, i might need coffee to stop being sleepy
Invalid Recipes for Plane 12:
-# Unassigned
best line age for random useless unicode tool ever
How old is the line
it is blue years old
-# finally reworked the whole unassigned DB to be way more optimised in the way i store everything, it could even fit the whole assigned db in it without any problem tbh (but i am not too sure if i wanna fuse the two or not tho),and it can now store multiple recipes for one element (which the assigned one doesn't do yet)
meow
What
i think cat possessed him
deep down were all cats
Fr
100k
Discord glitch
glitch discord
Ditch Giscord
???!!!????!!!!!???
ditch glizzycord
Watch the count
bro why does API show 1011 error
505 + 506 error
is it because get not post
Okay this guy is having different problems nevermind
it does kinda of
no
Hangul Invalid Recipes:
Can you post all Hangul valid recipes next
guh i thought i just fixed them
Only if you post c0 control recipes
Cough + Sun = Sunstroke
A + Sunstroke = A+S
A+S + C = Asc
A + Asc = Æ
B + Fire = C
C + Dust = CD
Message + Wind = Whisper
Earth + Whisper = Grave
CD + Grave = Cdgrave
A + Cdgrave = Ã```
wew cdgrave did that
how will you change the db? is it sql?
it is sql, and It always has been sql, just improved how I stored data
And rn I am working on merging the main db and the unassigned one
-# will probably also do request to get emoji of each unicode char that we have a recipe for when i will be done with the merging
me a alt?
yes, Mr. FD, you are an alt
how dare you say that
hmm, cool. i may need to take some tips from you since i am working with sql soon
for storage
so I'm trying to get 8A94 but this lineage is taking me AGES could someone post a custom one from a save file so im not spending hours trying to get it.
let me see
'tis a shame nobody granted rubiks eyes so he now must go around pleading to regain the ability to see
yeah understandable, the methods used to finish these off arent the best but they were used because they work
i think the current lineage is genuinely the only known way atm
its likely shortcuttable
do you have nearby characters?
Its just hard for me to make it because most of the charcters are invisible/ appear as 𧀀
oh? well you might be able to use a tooltip to help
im not an expert there though
where exactly could i get help with that?
there are some that will tell you what unicodes are in your item
but i dont have them on me, catstone or nata might know
not exactly sure where to ask or if someone has time but can anyone check which of the small letters in quotes are alive and which not? for example I revived "ǫ" yesterday
and another request. if anyone wants to try to get lj nj or dz in a string so I could revive them that would be appreciated. They are the only chars with 3 forms (DZ Dz dz for example) and I find it impossible to get what I want
I can probably try
What’s the plan of attack? How did the one you got successfully work?
?
Talking to Radu
I usually take a Letter-letter, then use next codepoint/letter/stuff so I get the next pair of Letter-letter. From there it's relative easy to revive it
For my example I got the pairs Ǎ-ǎ and Ǐ-ǐ and from there by combining them together, using "next" tools I got all the way to Ǭ-ǭ
and then use hi or something to remove the first?
Or something...
maybe wouldnt work but what if u tried String.remove('x', 'y') where X was first character (uppercase) and y was a character that has no lowercase/uppercase version
Mr. Ǭ-ǭ + mr. D = Mr. D-ǭ or Mr. D-ǭ-ǭ. Remove the mr. Then prepend hashtag lowercase gives #d-ǭ
oh interesting
That was only an idea. Sometimes I need to add a lot more letters after, so when i use the prepend hashtag lowercase it actually goes lowercase, not #D-ǭ
(not directly letter cause its a bit annoying but here some char that may be dead in quote, some that i verified, other where i didn't verify, but there is some letters)
-# like: "ĉ" , "ĕ" , "ĩ" , "ĭ" , "ŏ" , "ŝ" , "ŭ" , "ſ" , "ƈ" , "Ɣ"
i wonder if kit can revive them
Is adding more letters outside quotations ok?
String.append + mr... usually works
backtack hasn't been done yet?
lol good luck
I am posting this only as an example of my way. For this one I had to work a little harder, but here you can see the most important steps. Sometimes it doesn't want to get from #stuff to "stuff" so I have a lot of were-stuff that i combine with it until something works
I cannot do ſ . I cannot combine it with anything without transforming into s
Oh goodness
Good ness?
Ness? Nessy? Nessy6?
apparently the only invalid recipe of the main sheet
CJK on his way (again a full check)
Put this recipe in the archives or something
It's verified by someone else btw
or there is this one for U+602A
https://infinibrowser.wiki/item/01jjqgtcdrdth9g77fz9stk9ht
-# technically this one way shorter in 92 steps using the recipe that in the sheet
are we putting all of Unicode on infinibrowser?
that'd be sick actually
and why does it shows only one recipe
i hope everyone who made unicode submitted their savefiles
i forgot if i did
12 hours 💀
Archives?
will be longer than that (cause the longer i leave infinite craft tab open the more it make my whole browser,and pc, lag idk why, so i can't let it non-stop)
Well all of dxxxx and majority of cjk should be there when it gets updated the next time
is it redoing even things it checked already?
also I secretly hope "𐀀 𠀀 𰀀 " or "hi 𐀀 𠀀 " is going to be in top 100 used ones
How is 033b still invalid? Wow
no idea
also has the hangul ones been fixed?
-# just asking to avoid re checking, even if its only those ones, if they haven't been fixed
announcement
if someone can provide me with a good enough base savefile to work with
i will return
and help with unassigned
do you think it's like, likely??
also are elements no longer showing the entire recipe on infinibrowser??
all of these only show one recipe
Only for newly added one because it broke the lineage generation
will they be retroactively fixed?
or will they need to be resubmitted?
Yui said it would be fixed one day or another™️
-# not directly like that but it has been broken for quit a long time now and still isn't fixed
bump
Need emoji or not?
emoji?
I mean do you care about element having emoji in emoji slot
why wouldn't your savefile have them /genq
-# totally not gonna fuse my db as a savefile with basic starter file so it have all unassigned hangul, and cjk soon™️
-# also mean I will have to request missing recipe via infinibrowser or fill the gap with my own savefile recipes cause obviously db doesn't have full lineage of EVERYTHING
if no one has better i'll take it
wait is there no unicode version of the #1264242943598923926 ?
#1282448353975603240 test, im curious, please ignore
A bit hard to do (a community savefile or at least like it's not the same cause what you "need" really depends and a lot of time is far from being optimised)
don't know if i just found a good quoted EM DASH "—" (34 steps)
🔥
-# obviously can be better just stumbled uppon it randomly and there sure is already obvious optimisation rn but i am doing smth else
W
I see I think we can start on this
I’m not Eisern but I recall we have better minus recipes I thought
some random stats on use count of element used in recipes (unassigned(may be missing some planes) and assigned, except CJK) only show those with 5 or more use
WIP
Ok next you need to place them all on the board and take a screenshot
hell
Should I submit my save to IB?
I told myself I would never way back in March
that depend totally on you ig
Honestly it's kinda funny to see my FDs in there
One of mine was 673rd most popular last I checked
i think you should, since that would benefit the whole community
I'll think about it
are there even downsides to it
already made more recipe detected by ib (just using that to see stats) (mostly by adding the most used tools to my savefile)
90,000 recipes in 6 minutes
She woke up
basically "next-codepoint" , Next Codepoint , Next Letter
My FD!
OUR FD!
Nuh uh
-# to note that 99% of the element have no emoji (didn't really calculate the percentage but seems like a pretty good estimation)
What, should we store the emoji in the Unicode DB too
We need deadcheck endpoint and "what is emoji of element" endpoint
i am planning on storing them in my db later on but that mean re requesting everything AGAIN
also fun fact: number of elements u can contribute only means those elements arent currently visible on IB, its still possible they were already submitted but just after latest batch added
what
Ok look sometimes the portmanteaus work and sometimes they don't
To be fair Discord searching "Lauraniko" shows you this is nothing new
NEW ON ERASIA
Laurasia erasure is another rhyme going in my "bars you can never use in a rap" file
Eurasia erasure same thing
-# 99.905518%
That just rounds to 100% at this rate
can i have a save file 🥺
why are you estonian now
Insanity Fuezt?
It boils down to marriage
sorry??
cause i was going crazy trying to add missing item and recipe to the savefile (didn't actually manage, that the moment where savefile fixer would be so useful if it worked)
i was gonna call you by your name thats how taken aback i am
Laurasia this is several days old
why change now
I am very committed to both the bit and the marriage
fascinating
Also it gives me an excuse for why I've started typing worse
Wordle 1 320 3/6
⬛🟩⬛🟩🟨
⬛⬛⬛🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Actually I just realised Discord searching "babe" is a quick and easy way of checking that
wait do u pronounce the asia in laurasia like u would pronounce asia by itself
Laur Asia, yeah
i didnt even think u could pronounce it like that
How the hell do you pronounce it then
and ur pronounciation sounds worse than the other pronounciation
laurasia but say first a in asia like aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Laurahsia?
uh idk what that sounds like
Laur ah sia
yeah i think so
Well Laurasia is a portmanteau of Laurentia and Eurasia so
yeah so i am pronouncing it correctly
what?
you pronounce eurasia like that?
i disagree with this pronounciation
Sucks to suck
how do u know that it isnt fun to suck
Well I think out of the two of us I'm the only one who's done it so
but wtf why would it not be fun
I'll tell you when you're older
nonsense
Honestly it depends on who
Hello Fuezt
Fuezt come back
Don't make me look crazy
Fuezt never existed.
he is one of the users that is trusted
New conspiracy TrustedUsers isn't Fuezt
Funny how I never met this Adam
Well they mostly were in the lab for the purpose of getting the prompt
neal.fun reference ???? wtf??
some awwm requests were on their behalf like that cyrillic \n one
Hm
I do wonder if there's anyone else significant I have never interacted with
too bad
great argument, however my IC element proves otherwise
proof by bullshit machine
Where is that number from
I sorted by most popular, scrolled until I found Next Letter, then copied the HTML into Notepad++
You could probably find a better way to do it I was just bored
well i looked at the 100th element and it has 23k uses, so probably not. but I suspect the elements will have use count in the range from 500 to 5k. but hard to estimate
huh? how is next-codepoint-of-sequence only 8k, i used it for majority of dxxxx
oh ig it's only from the planes you checked s ofar
Anyone wants to join me in my side quest of reviving quoted letters? I need help with these 3
What revives those in quotes?
the lowercase version of them: DZ Dz dz -> "dz"
the problem with reviving them is that there are 3 versions of each letter
I see
for example I managed to get Version2-version3 as seen here but they are dead, because it's not Version1-version3
goofy ass route
how? so I may know in the future
"fromcharcode" + "latin-small-letter-dz" = "ǝ" awwww
isnt working for 01cc o no
I thought he would work, but no, the AI is too stupid
u can also revive apostrophe and curly quotes
Starter save in #1264242943598923926 unless I missed some specificities you needed
Kali wants you(r savefile)
Of course the moment I'm married this happens
didnt kali say she wants a savefile with some unicode stuff or something
I didn't see that if she did
#1206592567622373446 message and below
i need good unicode stuff
i was the one who first suggested the idea of starter savefile i think
Oh you got the dz lowercase?
nice
That is another dz, not the one missing
is U+c0000 and U+e0000 there?
No
can someone please add it? it is optimised sub 300 steps (in optimisheet)
Yeah still missing some plane and all
Also my problem with the big savefile is kinda the fact it have no CJK(still have to wait for verification of recipe) and since there no recipe fixer it's kinda hard to add all the things missing
What's the reason for the big savefile again?
"why not", and could be used as a savefile thar contains most unicode (and maybe a "starter" savefile in addition since it would contain most unicode tools)
I mean when the whole main objective done it's kinda starter for unassigned
"next-cyrillic-codepoint-of-" in 156 steps
-# there for sure optimisation that can be done but still posting it so there a full lineage that can be found via search
How much did you test? what was the last char that you've tested? I am slowly getting to the end of the list
026A
but i can check more of them if you want
if you have time, and want to...
i mean for me its literally just clicking a button and it will do its thing
yea, but it could be in use for other stuff
doing it rn re started checking those in quotes
ps. check also the part that you already gave me. I think I did not skip any, but to be sure
it already do it by itself xd, each time i click the button to restart it (there also a button to continue, but i did choose to restart, which check the ones that were dead before but not the ones known as alive)
and I've found an easier way to revive the elements, so it's going to be faster than ever
-# again a warning some in this list may be alive, dead check is not perfect and may still give some false result on some char
-# up to 02EF cause i still have CJK to verify and that i cannot run the two at the same time
Thanks
Oh?
Just an example. Sometimes (rarely) I need to use a different letter, or use the string.replace on mrs. stuff , seq. stuff , or simply hi stuff but it's a lot more faster than the old way with mr.aplhabet, prepend hashtag lowercase ....
I've got to u+0280. The only ones that I've skipped and are still dead are:
U+01B2, U+028B -> ʋ
U+01CA, U+01CB, U+01CC -> NJ
U+01F1, U+01F2, U+01F3 -> dz
U+0240 -> ɀ
U+0241, U+0242 -> Ɂ
If I get 0240 I think It's easy to get 241-242. But I can't get any of these
The annoying thing is that dz seems achievable even without this but it keeps going to the DZ and Dz versions
And with nj I got this close encounter...not sure why/how, and why there is no hyphen between them
what are you guys doing
I-m just reviving as many quoted letters as possible (those with capital/lowercase versions)
Revived U+0242, I'll try to do some of the others later but I have to fix my file's increasing dementia first 🫠
And who might you be ? 🤔
That is Elise Barentoon
do we have a sheet of those
or something
it would be nice
next project : Unicode enquoted
It must be nice
Japanese quotation marks all Unicode
no sheet. I just use the list from [here](#1206592567622373446 message)
I just realized I have no idea how to fix dementia ? Wipe all recipes ?
how will wiping all recipes fix dementia?
And who might you be ?
got it
I am Sr. Administrator.
Adhere to my commands our you will be severely punished!
i see brazil in that gif
how wtf
-# funnily enough i thought about that [<t:1712154180:R>](#1206592567622373446 message)
I see
i actually have like a lot of them
also have a good amount in "" and ''
-# tho its probably nothing compared to what Natasquare has
Do you have time for another check? I went a little further than expected and got to 0400 (got all modifier letters and all combining chars in quotes, even tho it was unnecessary)
yes
nice, id like to try one although it still seems rough because the first item in the process already is a pain
-# dead quoted char
-# up to 0506
your tester is flexible, nice
CJK Invalid Recipes:
-# more accurate overall use count, since it now have CJK, still missing plane 13 and above
How is Next Tibetan Letter more used than Next Letter what
i guess there's just a lot of tibetan letters then
there are more tibetan letters than there are letters in total
what
hmmm
Impostor
strange, i don't understand how or why
Spaces maybe?
ye lol
strange tho
Strange why
others
goddamnit
who tf put space, and why tf didn't i trim them
shouldn't take a lot of time to fix but still -_-
found them
So who put it
not me
so that i can send a gift to his house
Do you need my bombs
nah i got a Corsican friend
-# obviously that a joke, just incase i prefer to say it so that no one take this seriously
radu i think? not to sure if the account is owned by radu but
-# about who did put the space
Radu is the Corsican
oh that annoying then
@glad roost thoughts?
all people on this post gonna end up on a list at this speed 💀
-# talking about bombs and all
and rubiks
Rubiks is gonna end up on a list?
idk maybe
oh i just realized now what ASD mean
?
Ainfinite S Dcraft, yeah
Apathetic Sad Donut
Why so mean
hatsune miku (hatsune miku)
but hatsune miku, hatsune miku..
hatsune miku I hatsune miku
Are you okay
vote on the poll michael jackson
top 10 question
holy shit is that a reference to Back On Track By Robert Topala
It was me... I think I just copy-pasted it from somewhere and didn't realize
tangut i think
I fixed my mistakes from the list
can you run it again? I almost finished the list (I'm at 0504) and I only need the results until 0589. Can your tester be used on specific portions? If yes I may need it again in the future
remind me how you get the item with the o in the first place... i am able to play now so yey i can try
sorry
I'm not sure what do you want me to give you and why. You can now make almost any Letter-letter yourself as I revived almost all the quoted chars.
I usually make them like this
Do you have a list of the ones remaining, Radu?
(can't rn cause it doesn't want to work)
-# actually now it want, for some reason like max 1h ago it just triggered CF in some strange way not ratelimited but
0400, 0450 ѐ
0291 ʑ
01B2, 028B ʋ,
0240 ɀ
U+01CA U+01CB U+01CC nj
U+01F1 U+01F2 U+01F3 dz
hmm dz and nj... oof
and technically yes i can use it on "specific portion" its not really a feature but by modifying at what character it think it is in the progress of verifying it will work
wait but, surely you can control the range?
or at least start point
or am i dumb
it start at 0x0001 each time i "restart", but anyway know what alive or not since it store what alive so that avoid useless requests
there are a few other lowercase letters scattered through the see of Unicode chars, that I will try to take on alone.
and there are still 1E00-1FFE that are capitals-lowercase, but for those I want to know which exactly are alive, before trying to get them
i think i can understand 0400
first in block
so you cant go from previous
i do have one idea i will try out
0400 is the capital letter, we need the 0450 in quotes
right
what have you tried so far? i was thinking of the items i have like Cyrillic Letter E (and the accents and all that)
but after some testing i dont think that is gonna work
unless i make stuff like Cyrillic Letter "e"
I only tried these
and it almost always give 0451 ё
and I also tried this, and to combine with cyrillic letters, in hope it would transform it into to letter
what if someone tried using the strat that was used for dagger
but put a codepoint in there
hmm
Unlikely for the reason that ye with grave is rare as hell
I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't in the training data at all
just realised this is exactly 30 lol
would be mad impressive if it wasnt accidental
wait how do tokens work? for AI to give a character, does that character need to be in one of the llama 2.7 tokens?
no
the tokens just revert to utf-8 bytes
you can just think of every llama token as a sequence of utf-8 bytes
which most of the time, is a chracter or sequence of characters
but there are some tokens which are just bytes
not characters
and it is also exactly after the normal cyrillic alphabet, so it doesn't work with the normal strats
is c0 chars in that sequence of utf-8 bytes?
yeah, 0x00 to 0x1f
then why does the ai never give them if it is possible for it to give them
I checked a few Swadesh lists and it hasn't shown up. Best bet is Macedonian but I don't think there's enough Macedonian in the training
but the ai does give those
where youd actually see c1 in training
I'll try some experiments with 2.7 chatbot
the only place youd see c1 in training is mojibake
in fact ai is trained so heavily on c1
i sent a discord shape bot (ai bot thing) japanese but mojibaked
i asked it what did i say
macedonian, to express an emphasize on words. but it's not used in writing
it just says "thats japanese" and correctly translates it
it does not bat an eye at the fact that i just threw it c1 controls, and not actual japanese
but the bot has no clue
it is totally fooled
it thinks its japanese
because its seen it in training data
is mojibake the only possible entry to c1?
well im sure theres others, like for c0
a bit more than 0589 (cause i forgot to check how far it was) but:
but its the only one we know of
why does it have 0b and 0c but not 0a and 0d
cause somes are marked as skip, because of error automatically (which i can check)
are there any possible c0 entries
Oh quoted Armenian
we dont know of any
yeah 0a and 0d are automatically skipped due to error and marked as char to skip
I think I can do those ones if Radu isn't going for them
as i said the onlyl reason we got c1 is that we fooled the ai into outputting what it thought was japanese
how will you go for it? radus route of A-a or what
there is no way the ai has never seen c0 in training
go for it
Alrighty
and also, it can give unassigned characters. but theres no way it has a lot of training data on thousands of random unassigned chars - so how come it gives unassigned chars but doesn't give c0 chars
thanks
the ai must have seen c0 in training somehow, at least a little bit
We know it has because it can increment
sure it has
Who the hell is late
isnt that impossible to get in ic
but it must have also seen other c0 chars right?
and how does it give unassigned chars, where has it seen those
it will go on about "i cant do that because its a non printing character" and blabber on and give excuses for why it "cant"
it hasnt seen them
it hasnt
how does it give them
but its seen the bytes that make them up
and its seen the bytes that make up c0
well
actually
the bytes making up c0
are about the rarest bytes of all
way way rarer than those that make up unassigned
i wonder if the reason for this is literally just the name of control chars. imagine if it freely gave them if it had a different name
yet it can increment the chars, so it can theoretically output them
the frequency of bytes 0x00-0x08 and 0x0e-0x1f is just so incredibly low
how do we know whether its possible or impossible to get a c0 entry?
We don't
and that's annoying
we dont but the odds that its possible are so close to 1 that i really cant describe how likely it is
everything would be so much easier if we just knew if its possible/impossible
how would you ever know
It's infinite monkey theorem
the only way to prove possible would be to make it
idk but it would be nice if we did
the only way to prove impossible would be to try every possible recipe ever
The monkeys can definitely, at some point, write Shakespeare, but will it happen soon enough for the publisher to be happy?
idk if i can say "we should try a lot to find any possible strat for it" since people have already tried almost everthing for it
i mean, thats part of the challenge
people tried almost everything for tya
all characters are the same apparently according to the upgraded emoji ai
the last 8 cyrillic chars went down easy. (the order of the elements used is mixed, but the end result is this)
oh, remove first character didnt kill it? wow thats... i guess normal for this but not for normal elements
it will just kill your element without fail normally
I know. but if there is a letter between a pair of chars it almost always removes the capital letter
and somehow x is the easiest to introduce there
i still get a bit lost sometimes looking at this because lineages like this just push the "what how is that possible" back farther and farther lol
I got the e
What are the still dead ones
0291 ʑ
01B2, 028B ʋ
0240 ɀ
U+01CA U+01CB U+01CC nj
U+01F1 U+01F2 U+01F3 dz
These 5 (until 0531 where the armenian alphabet starts)
Would try some later
imagine if it was possible to prove or disprove that an element was possible to get
what recipe did u use
hmm.. that "B" made the e turn into the e you wanted to revive?
it's not "B", it's "В" (the cyrillic letter)
and yea, it transformed the е with ̀ (ѐ) into the actual unicode char.
That's funny
Is that B capital or lowercase
"В" capital , "в" lowercase
well I guess it was revived so I could have made it without doing whatever the route was
yup
What’s the W-w K-k at top left
I forgot it there. i used it + next tools stuff to get one of the pairs of letters
they are Ԝ-ԝ Ԟ-ԟ, not normal W-w K-k chars
"nj" revived
holy hell
Oh? Wow I didn’t try because there wasn’t an entry that came to mind
recipe?
what type of sorcery did you use?
Sorry, I didn't see the messages
Would you say you were... late?
tu galėtum pasakyti, kad jis.. rado, kaip gauti šį elementą
English version: you could say that he.. found how to make that element (this pun only works in lithuanian)
ʑ doesnt even have an uppercase version
its just annoying as fuck to get
Armenian doesn't want to stay inside quotes, that's annoying
theres no way you are struggling with "armenian", fake continent smh
need help? want me to take over (later in the evening)?
I gave up on it, couldn't make a good tool to translate to Armenian while staying in quotes
On the bright side I have a lot of Armenian FDs now
Really? I did not even realize
apparently I did notice, a long time ago....but did not manage to get it quoted
got it
me when it pushes back the “sorcery” to LJ but it was revived already so
recipe?
since you have a lot of armenian words, do you have a word that has the ւ separated from the ո (not ու or ո-ւ)?
nevermind, I got what I needed
I think I'm also done with those elements. can you run it one more time just on the chars from that list? to be sure I did not miss anything.
The next area that's interesting for me and were there are a lot of such elements is 1E00-2000.
l and n? intereating
how come
the AI did not understand the assignment
I'm gonna try later with dz, maybe it works if the letters are in the same block
i was trying to use a similar strat to get f1 f2 or f4 and yeah. it doesn't want to work
Where is this GIF from
Tenor
From what is the origin of the character depicted in this short Graphics Interchange Format video?
It also didn' work with dz 😦
I'm gonna do a pause on playing (and overall being on the internet for probably a month at least so it you don't see me talking)
It's normal
Wish you the best, see you soon
Wait this project is done?!
All assigned characters have been found yes
All possible assigned characters*
Yeah, we did indeed finish it… we are trying to make a documentary about it cause it’s probably about the biggest achievement thus far, but motivation or organisation is lacking in that department
infinite craft documentary is crazy
if anyone is doing it, could i proofread the writing of the script
we are kinda trying there’s a thread for it and initially there was a lot of research being done but it ran out of steam
where is the thread?
The recipe for U+2CC6 Ⳇ points to the wrong thing. It says #ⳅ + "next-codepoint" but the link is for my Znamenny Unicode recipe
Ah shit I didn't see that Alfo left
NOO
; ;
I hope 319 gets found soon so I can leave 🙂
A
What's 319?
Maximum length of an item as it stands
Ohhh ok
Would it be 319 hashtags in a row? So like the current longest but without the Quotation Mark
No
you're slightly outdated
thats one way yeah
Hashes go to 307
With the exception of these 3 letters, all lowercase letters are revived in quoted form (I think):
01B2, 028B ʋ
0240 ɀ
U+01F1 U+01F2 U+01F3 dz
with this I end my little journey
it would be: 15 Letter 1-token word (such as Representatives) followed by 16 hashtags or asterisks
Representatives################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################
Even that and other areas like a6xx and others.
And I did use another tech, at the last few of them:
"a B" + next tech = "b C" . Then remove last char.
it knows to lowercase it? damn
so from there if you have only one alive you could make it
It doesn't know to lowercase it. It just gives the next codepoint, which happens to be the lowercase letter
so even in cases where the Capital letter was a block starter, I managed to get that way the lowercase version, without an actual block break
why would it matter if the capital is block starter? i forgor
cause I usually used A-a + Next stuff = B-b, but this usually stops working when reaching a new block start
and why doesnt this have the same fate?
cause the B (capital letter) from "a B" is the block start. so the AI doesn't have to figure out what is the block starter, he only needs to give what comes after (the second char from the block)
a is the last letter from a previous block while B is the Block start of the next one
It may not be so obvious how the AI works if you did not work a lot with unicodes and block breaks
Yeah I don’t see how it knows to block break from a to b there
he doesn't know. I give it the last element from a block + the first element of the next one.
and so, he just gives what is next, which is the "b"
wouldn’t it be B? If U+xx3f is a and U+xx40 is B (that’s how I’m interpreting what you said)
U+xx3f is a, U+xx40 is B, U+xx41 is b, U+xx42 is C
I give him U+xx3f and U+xx40 "a B" and I ask him what comes next? he responds U+xx41 U+xx42 "b C"
Ahh
I guess that works for when they’re next to each other like in those areas
we dead
optimize every unicode character.
Optimize U+6969
Interesting
alfo :(
this second gotta be so cruel that you need a god to hold it
you didnt notice until now?
She hid the parentheses this time.
It says (alzheimer patient)
To be fair I wasn't fully registering that Fuezt was back in the first place until around now
On another note why does my autocomplete suggest Fueztord still, I have said it but the once
Mine doesnt even have fuezt in it
I need to type Bren before Brent shows up, Nik before Niko, Kal for Kali, Fuez for Fuezt
I'm not saying anyone's names enough apparently
Tell you what though, Ci gives Cibryll
And Ria for Riation
Christ on a stick its obsession innit
I mean yeah
interesting
Why are you white
white can glow too yknow
not surprising
What, Gloucester?
Glo gives Global, Gloucestershire, and Glossopleura for me
Ah yes
Glory, Glo, Glow
Yeah well that'll have to change soon
you had autocrrect learn your habits?
it learned AQEEDAH but not polaris
Why does Laurasiagondwanalandland show up before Laurasiagondwanaland
Holyly hellell
When did I type that
Nikki, Nik, Nike
Nike shows up for me too
It also wants me to change Niko into Milo
who the fuck
middle always gota be what i type
so only the left/right thats different
i think it gave up suggesting at the middle
Actually i remember who milo is its that cat with a red tie
Koninklijk is in my autocorrect
does me using english (UK) as keyboard language affect this?
i use English 〔UK〕
Koninklijke Overwinning
KO indeed
profuse sweating at the sight of these two letters
Me when I watch boxing and see a ring knockout
Me when i watch a king go into the ocean
I need to type Posei before Poseidon shows up
For some reason Po autocorrects to Pp
Incredible
what tf is ai cooking
im one letter earlier than you haha
Grandmaster of being lonely
Oh wait no opposite
I didn't read the not
Hold on
Why am I not going to the office anymore
Ehhdudh I think I should be able to get a new one
Auaiofwkb I have no idea what to do
Hell yeah I am no longer going to the office
interesting
Natasquare knows what to do with the car park
Ntsq I think I will be in the office tomorrow godfuckingdammdiit
Hey are you going to be in the office tomorrow
Niko is a good boy is still there too
the middle one is refusing to follow what i type... uh oh

re (Did you mean: the true name of Bael)
alright i killed mosquito with no look
no just hand
why the hell would you have one on private room
I like the sheer violence of it okay
I swing at mosquitoes and suddenly I'm wielding the lightning
addiction
I'm addicted to a lot of things, it's sort of a problem
how fun is D&D ( assuming i wanted to try it )
alright imma stop, this is unicode bounty
:>
well i tried it inside of a dungeon and no dragons appeared
oof
D&D is fun with the right people
too bad i was leftie...
I once put a sheep in my pocket and forgot about it until it became plot relevant what
Oh
Politically right?
interesting
The correct people, yes
Correct people = people
Wrong people = peephole
schrodinger people
If you put uranium inside a person is the person dead or alive
Wasnt there a guy who tasted uranium or a different radioactive chemical?
Quite a few people have tasted radioactive material
There's that one guy who drank radioactive water
Eben Byers
Oh it was plutonium
Donald Mastick
What about me
savvyo
i am not really back, i look at the discord from time to time but i avoid staying too much(that why i post this with my alt), i have other things to do and it kinda distract me
seems like none of those got fixed, edit: same for plane 0
gonna try to fix some myself
Invalid Recipes for Plane 0:
-# unassigned
managed to fix most of them in plane 0
What about me
rubbish,rubiksm,robins
as per usual middle one follows whatever i typed
guess,fuez,first
Rubi gets Rubiks while Rubik does the full Rubiksmath
subponea, rubiksmat, rulings
What
what did you do
Why do you have subpoena
I’ve been called rubi before
so I guess I’m ruby or something apparently
nobody - but in passing in one-off interactions ive had it happen
hi neal plz see this11!!one11!!
Rub gives me Rubiksmath immediately
Obsessed
quick name beta ursae minoris you have 3 seconds
Such a shame I don't have ping notifs on for this server
If I remember right, Kochab, but sorry I was doing a Hashi
a what
also how do you turn ping notifs off???
like that isnt an option unless i block the person pinging me
Yeah
No notifications on my phone from this server
#off-topic message
Also this is a Hashi
I've been practicing and I think I can do it in 4:30 but the handicap is that I literally cannot see fast enough
For the record both Judeka (Kiyan) and Glowy have faster times but they "cheated" by my rules by using the period before the game starts to look at the board
id like to try, although i dont know any tech and dont have the app, the online ones arent comparable difficulty
is it gettable on iphone
just make your own
I will note that according to the lore this is me basically offering a cigarette to Rubiks
uhhhhh
should be quite easy
not particularly, given the need for ui and all. Plus if I want it to be fair I’ll need to play on mobile
Yes this is right… I’d love to continue though
maybe you can try me