Unicode

[echo wasp]

idk, I just copy U+000d then paste it

[tepid blaze]

shift + enter

[echo wasp]

in sheet that moves you to the next cell (idk which direction)

[neat haven]

that makes the cell selector goes up

[tepid blaze]

oh in sheet

then no idea

[echo wasp]

looks liek you're gonna have to copy 000d and paste it

[neat haven]

ctrl enter

literally 1 google search

[echo wasp]

lmao I completely forgot google existed

[neat haven]

i don't know how to feel about this

[echo wasp]

I forgot that googling how to insert line breaks existed**

I still wonder where the pua glyphs came from

[tepid blaze]

wdym?

[neat haven]

like the element emojis or what

f37c

[echo wasp]

the glyphs from mika's userstyle

[neat haven]

from ucsur i guess

[trim pond]

all U+d1xxx block starts
"𐀀 𠀀 𰀀 " here #1206592567622373446 message

[echo wasp]

how long does it take for you to build such lineages

[trim pond]

this one took like an hour

maybe i should've done it the normal way

but it kinda incremented all the way so i decided to extract it all

[wooden maple]

Fein

[trim pond]

how is the U+19xxx going

[wooden maple]

guys look at this photo

[neat haven]

f3c9

look at this one instead

[feral nest]

Not funny

[echo wasp]

idk, I'm leaving it running while I'm not on my pc

[trim pond]

who made the increment script?

[wooden maple]

hi

[echo wasp]

some help from chatgpt

[trim pond]

ah cool

[neat haven]

f3ca

f3cb (scroll up for "f3ca")

[echo wasp]

5/5 incrementing experience it seems like

[feral nest]

maybe it would be better if u redirect to the character u need for whatever u posted eh

[echo wasp]

papas there are more invisible characters if you download this

[rose lava]

f468

[neat haven]

f3cc

[trim pond]

i should make a font that displays everything invisible so that papas gets every string.append

[rose lava]

f46c

[neat haven]

i go now

[sage wren]

since when did unknown hard error have a server name

[trim pond]

U+diode

ok U+d10de for anyone who searches

[echo wasp]

words with unicode

[trim pond]

yes

[echo wasp]

ok pretty sure the tool is either done or close to done (halfway)

[left briar]

hold on are we getting unassigneds now

or did they expand unicode

[echo wasp]

puas and unassigned

[left briar]

what are puas?

[trim pond]

💋

[echo wasp]

Private Use Area

[echo wasp]

what?

[trim pond]

idk sounds like a kiss

puas

puas puas puas

[feral nest]

wrong

puas is actually a way to say spikes in spanish

how u don't know that

[trim pond]

if you switch a and s, you get pusa which means mouth in czech

obviously

which means mouth or kiss so yeah

[feral nest]

if u delete p, u, a and s, you get a blank space

[trim pond]

no?

you get

[rose lava]

f46f-f477

[echo wasp]

I'm running the second half now

also on mobile it just has this, lol

[trim pond]

asd do you want to 100% plane 15?

in unassigned sheet

[echo wasp]

i think you already have ffffe

[trim pond]

yeah but i meant with a simpler limeage. like somehow decrementimg fffff cause that one is easy to get

[echo wasp]

🍋age

[trim pond]

??

[echo wasp]

lime age

[wheat ferry]

Lemonage

🍋‍🟩age

[sonic jetty]

〰️🔞

Lineage

[trim pond]

aah 🍋‍🟩

[echo wasp]

almost done with 19xxx

at 19fxx

[regal fulcrum]

taking a screenie of all my one char FDs

and i think i missed a lot

cause

i lost data

my latest save only has 8.9k FDs

im p sure i had above 10k

confirmed

:/

so im missing at MINIMUM 300-400 FDs

whatever

[trim pond]

how many unicode fds do you have? you can run my stats script to see your assigned fd and unassigned fd count (on unicode characters)

[regal fulcrum]

oh wherer

i was gonna ask for this

[trim pond]

#1206592567622373446 message you just run await stats()

it also lists emoji counts/lengths across the chars

[regal fulcrum]

wait how do i run it?

compsci student here btw

i never do web stuff idk nmnsmfnsdfsn

[trim pond]

await stats()

put the code in console first

[regal fulcrum]

can it spit me a txt with the list of codes i have FD on

i wanna make a spreadsheet for them :p

[trim pond]

i would have to modify it to do that

but ok wait a minute

[regal fulcrum]

sorry it it's too much

[trim pond]

do you want to list all fds, or only all assigned fds

[regal fulcrum]

assigned FDs would be nice

actually if you do assigned cant you do both super easily

[trim pond]

yes

[regal fulcrum]

i didnt look at it

yeah i thought so

ty alfo you rock

[trim pond]

i actually made that script some time ago, but only to count the fds, so i am modifying it

[regal fulcrum]

icic

[trim pond]

ok here's the script to list unicode fds run with await listUnicodeFds() and with (false) if you already ran it before in the same tab.
this lists them in codepoint order
sheet downloading copied from natas code

guess how many characters this is

[regal fulcrum]

uh oh

[regal fulcrum]

25k is my guess

it gave up

also wtf i dont have many

i suck balls i barely contributed

[sage wren]

why did you ask gpt to put hyphens there's definitely an online tool to do that

[regal fulcrum]

you think?

my first thought was "ask chatgpt but he wont be able to do it"

tried

didnt work, as expected

option two

imma look for a tool

[sage wren]

i do think!

[regal fulcrum]

cant find

[regal fulcrum]

thats already more than i do

[sage wren]

Whats the text you're trying to work with anyway

[regal fulcrum]

im so bad at programming dude

😭

nice return file

[trim pond]

if you want to inplace some string, modify it like this (just paste this in console and run again) - you need to put the string in the inplace variable first

    await downloadSheet(download);

    const inplace = ""; // string that gets put between every character

    elements = JSON.parse(localStorage.getItem("infinite-craft-data")).elements;
    elements = elements.filter(element => Array.from(element.text).length === 1)
        .sort((a, b) => a.text.codePointAt(0) - b.text.codePointAt(0));

    let assigned = "";
    let unassigned = "";
    for (const element of elements) {
        if ( !element.discovered) continue;

        const dec = element.text.codePointAt(0);
        if (sheetData.has(dec)) { // is assigned
            assigned += element.text + inplace;
        } else {
            unassigned += element.text + inplace;
        }
    }
    if (assigned.length > 0 && inplace.length > 0) assigned = assigned.slice(0, -1 * inplace.length);
    if (unassigned.length > 0 && inplace.length > 0) unassigned = unassigned.slice(0, -1 * inplace.length);

    console.log(`Assigned count: ${Array.from(assigned).length}`);
    console.log(`Assigned: ${assigned}`);
    console.log(`Unassigned count: ${Array.from(unassigned).length}`);
    console.log(`Unassigned: ${unassigned}`);
}```

[regal fulcrum]

ty nsmnsdmfnsdmnfmsnd

i have no clue why what i did doesnt work

[tepid blaze]

-# that without counting my scrapping results

[regal fulcrum]

to be extremely honest

[chilly fulcrum]

Aaaa async

[trim pond]

is that bad?

[chilly fulcrum]

Well it’s that I’ve tried and failed to make async before I always can’t handle it

[regal fulcrum]

i should have so much more i lost so many CJK

like hundreds my estimate is i have like 2.5k FDs

which is still not much at all

i really didnt to much

[tepid blaze]

same (after i didn't do any serious CJK/Hangul farming so that also probably why i have way less fd's, even with scrapping)

[regal fulcrum]

only was able to recover 1871 FDs

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/171qZHTlSRvC20VdOnL7MZtuNWsi0BtFkfxD_qWFkQkM/edit?usp=sharing

[chilly fulcrum]

From your saves? Okay nice

Mine are all kinda gone

I’d need a save merger and then the finder

even that’s won’t be accurate

But I haven’t been able to make the indexer yet (groan)

[chilly fulcrum]

Nice

[wheat ferry]

Is that in the spreadsheet (U+32645)?

I think it's not

Idk

If not I'd be so happy

I think It is no u+32645

Is it?

Why is it on ib

Damn, I think I'm not right in any way

[chilly fulcrum]

do you have mbs tooltips?

or just mbs

turn on charcodes

[wheat ferry]

I'm mobile

Can I transfer the mobile-google file to mobile-firefox or something that supports extensions?

[echo wasp]

First half of 19xxx

Second half of 19xxx

[chilly fulcrum]

Ask asd he manages just fine on mobile somehow

[echo wasp]

I just ntsq in the elements I need (only ones that I already have on pc)

[chilly fulcrum]

still dunno what that is… but anyway

But as in

scripts and tooltips and stuff

you seem to manage fine on mobile

[sage wren]

Cheat

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah sure, but I forgot which way

there’s the save file edit and import

[echo wasp]

ok wait the inpu tool works ( in my copy)

(planes 0-3)

[echo wasp]

U+19000 full lineage
(entry from radu230)
"𐀀-𑀀-𒀀-𓀀 in browser
["hi 𓿿 𖿿 𗿿"](#1206592567622373446 message)

19xxx block starts lineage coming soonTM

[echo wasp]

any got 15000 recipe?

wth, why is ic so laggy

F87A

F830

F77B

193cd

19040 19080 190c0
"28000 29000 2a000 ":#1206592567622373446 message

[neat haven]

f3cd ([" {f3ca}{f3cb}{f3cc}"](#1206592567622373446 message))

f3ce (scroll up for "{f3ca}{f3cb}{f3cc}{f3cd}")

f3e0

[neat haven]

f3f4

f416

f41f

[echo wasp]

why is my ic so laggy 😭

[neat haven]

rip

f423

[echo wasp]

3/4 chars here matched its 1f4xx char (in its emoji)

so like F420's emoji is 1F420

[neat haven]

f433

[neat haven]

f435

f438

[trail wagon]

my brain is melting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[echo wasp]

f4xx actually seems like hangul, lol

[neat haven]

f43c

[neat haven]

i guess so

[echo wasp]

yeah, a lot of fun

[neat haven]

are you /srs or /s

[echo wasp]

/s

[neat haven]

f442

[neat haven]

f443

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah i mean U+fxxx for some reason it seems to confuse with emojis

very interesting because the utf-8 is not terribly similar

i mean it kinda is, but also isnt

but then again

there was a project where google was using pua to encode emoji

and unicode went okay fine we will take that out of pua and make it canon

so maybe its using that

[neat haven]

f44f

[regal fulcrum]

thats from saves + the like 50 FDs i recovered through random screenshots i got

i never take screenshots

but sometimes when i do theres an fd in the back

[chilly fulcrum]

did you merge them all or just check all

[neat haven]

f452

[neat haven]

f454

[echo wasp]

1a040 1a080 1a0c0
"28000 29000 2a000 ":#1206592567622373446 message\

[neat haven]

f478

f479

f47c

[echo wasp]

1axxx block starts from 1a100-1a740 (skipped 1a600 1a6c0)
18000 18040 18080 -> #1206592567622373446 message

[neat haven]

f48f

[echo wasp]

im done 😭

final 1axxx block starts

F60B

F60E

F60F

[trail wagon]

my brain has fully melted////

[timid nebula]

just as smooth as before

[tepid blaze]

don't think its used in any recipe anywhere here, but in case:
Unicode Urdu in 67 steps

[echo wasp]

fuezt do help to make the other 3 input tools

[sage wren]

اردو!!

[pulsar island]

What's the dif between /s and /srs I thought noth meant seriously

[sage wren]

/s = sarcastic /srs = serious

[pulsar island]

Ohh tyyy

[echo wasp]

190d4

194ab

196d8

what

it's one of those "barriers" again...

[trail wagon]

The hell

[echo wasp]

yeah idk

nvm

19750
3xxxx stuff: #1206592567622373446 message

whatever, just gonna skip this

are you kidding me, another fake barrier

F615

[trim pond]

wait so you did all 19xxx and 1axxx?

nice

[echo wasp]

not all, there are still some 19xxx gaps (and those fake barriers), and I'm pretty sure there are some 1axxx gaps too

[trim pond]

ok

[echo wasp]

also if you havent saw it, there's now an IT for planes 0-3, though it is quite slow

[trim pond]

ok

[echo wasp]

"𙏍" + "next-codepoint" = "𙏎‍"
wtf

[trim pond]

?

isn't that just normal increment

or are you saing that the increment tool didn't do that when it should've?

[echo wasp]

no, analyze it

[trim pond]

ahh there is 200d

[tepid blaze]

back at doing dead check

[echo wasp]

like checking all unicodes?

[tepid blaze]

yes

don't know if i was just unlucky on these ones, or they are just not revived

[trim pond]

btw look at this chain xd, i was a bit surprised that it actually incremented

[echo wasp]

lol

now block restart 003f

[tepid blaze]

yeah look like they haven't yet been revived

ὒ = Υ̓̀
ὔ = Υ̓́
ὖ = Υ̓͂
ῒ = Ϊ̀

should be the things needed to revive each of them

[untold crystal]

What are you guys up to now? I finished my exam but until the end of the year I won't have access to the PC as I'm traveling to my hometown for holidays.

[hybrid dune]

until the end of the year you are traveling to your hometown?

damn, that has to be a long way

[heady escarp]

oh this got completed gg

[untold crystal]

I'm traveling to my hometown where I'm staying until the end of the year...you understood what I meant.

And yea. It is a 11 hours trip

[trim pond]

unassigned

[untold crystal]

Any idea except luck for 40000-b0000?

[trim pond]

i have some ideas that i am trying rn, but I still think i'd need to be super lucky

[trim pond]

what about Ghost Unicode + I want ghosts! = U+b0000 (the character) also the ingredients need to be exact caps

[untold crystal]

Wtf is with this idea? I definitely don't get it.

[trim pond]

ghosts make boooo sounds

[candid trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/king-boo-king-boo-mario-super-mario-nintendo-gif-3275325550282226330

[trim pond]

is that gif of U+b0000 that you just found?

neal made a special animation. cool

[candid trellis]

a very special gif of Neal recording himself saying "boo" and acting like a ghost will surely show up once you make it!

[sage wren]

😔

[candid trellis]

magnificent

[chilly fulcrum]

You got exact caps?

[chilly fulcrum]

What were you going for

[trim pond]

\xf1 \xf2 \xf4

[sage wren]

Yes it wouldn't matter anyway though since its only read as Ghost Unicode + I Want Ghosts!

[trim pond]

no! it does! (trust)

[chilly fulcrum]

How would that do it?

[chilly fulcrum]

Does, because tech

still clueless

[sage wren]

its not anything new

hashtagged element + add spaces usually gives wrong caps

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm… ok

and unhashes?

[tepid blaze]

if someone wanna try the 3 first, cause i didn't manage to, and didn't try the last

[sage wren]

yes

#thisisanexample / #this#is#an#example (if you prefer this scuffed format) + add spaces = This is an example

[chilly fulcrum]

New mission: all the banned white spaces we have, try unquoting and whatever and removing mr and stuff to get it on its own (we know it will give Nothing) - but if it gives Nothing then use /check and try to validate it

because the ogham space recipe still passes validation

despite giving Nothing

(It actually gives 500 now)

[sage wren]

look who pops up on my twitter timeline now lol

[night dragon]

yay

[chilly fulcrum]

Of course they are

[trim pond]

idk

[chilly fulcrum]

What even is this…

[trim pond]

can you have U+3000 with U+0020 on the sides or not? it doesn't look like that. there's not even a single element on IB like that

[sage wren]

Saint niko decides if somethings on the nice list or the naughty list

except the old account that did this turned into a right-winger so a new one was made

[chilly fulcrum]

What, is this some ai?

[chilly fulcrum]

Should be able to

[trim pond]

well show me an element like that then

[chilly fulcrum]

don’t have one

[trim pond]

sus

[chilly fulcrum]

but that doesn’t mean it’s banned or anything?

[trim pond]

yeah

[chilly fulcrum]

we don’t have tya…. But it’s probably not banned

[trim pond]

also

😭 this doesn't want to increment

it should it is \xe1 \xe2 etc.

"should"

*"""should"""

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm

What tooltip variant is that

[trim pond]

exotic chars

[echo wasp]

wdym

[trim pond]

like {0020}{3000} or {3000}{0020}

i mean 3000 is ideographic space so ig not

interesting...
maybe i can find a faster e0000 entry

omg yes i did

it's like no effort xd, probably maybe the same length as c0000

[echo wasp]

e0000?

[trim pond]

yes

[echo wasp]

damn I thought you broke the barrier

[trim pond]

no

[echo wasp]

but ig the reaction wouldnt be so calm

[trim pond]

lol yeah it's faster than c0000

if it can be extracted easily. ok. i didn't try doing that yet

wait

hmmm it's 2 in 1

[echo wasp]

I mean I'll definitely get muted if I find any one of those

[trim pond]

even better U+e0000
𐀀 𠀀 𰀀 {e007f} and 𠀀 𡀀 𢀀 𣀀 here #1206592567622373446 message

🎉

@chilly fulcrum you should've waited a bit lol, this lineage is much better

[chilly fulcrum]

What’s the item on the left

what sequence

[trim pond]

20 21 22 23

[chilly fulcrum]

Is without spaces just a standard method?

[trim pond]

yeah, i mean you can also use Without Spacing

probably

i don't really know how else to extract it

do you think I can optimise U+c0000 / U+e0000 under 500 steps?

currently U+c0000 is 1.4k, and U+e0000 about the same also now

maybe then Eisern will show interest

[chilly fulcrum]

Well, on my save e0000 was 2700

with the previous route

but there was missing stuff

idk why

[trim pond]

i think i should first organise everything that I need for the individual xx000 chars, then decide which route to take to use as many of the same elements as possible / strategies that use similar elements easily obtainable from each other

[chilly fulcrum]

What does browser say about that route

[trim pond]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

Number of steps

[trim pond]

1.4k

ah wait lol i said 14k instead of 1.4k before

i think the worst element is U+e007f. we should figure out a way to isolate it without needing to use remove tools, cause i think everything else is doable without removes

[chilly fulcrum]

Hmm

what was the issue with it

Remove tools are low step

[trim pond]

the flag

are they?

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah well under 100

[trim pond]

i thought like 160 steps

ah hm

[chilly fulcrum]

More like 50

[trim pond]

what

hm...

[chilly fulcrum]

plus with Alt alphabets you can make them later on with less of a deviation

[trim pond]

yeah well i don't know anything about that

[chilly fulcrum]

may soubd dumb but

my box drawing sequence entry

can it be 1. Optimised

2. Transferred to cjk

3. Used to skip needing to build the sequences?

[trim pond]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

probably not

[trim pond]

wdym transferred to cjk

or what sequence exactly are you talking about here

[chilly fulcrum]

combine with a cjk item and make it give a cjk sequence

I was able to transfer it to mathematical operators

entry kinda sucks

maybe something of a similar idea but different setup and goal can work

[trim pond]

idk what sequence even, is it on discord?

[chilly fulcrum]

It’s in the sheet

although

hard to find now

Since we used box drawing sequences to finish it off

257e or something

probably useless but just know that there is a rare chance of an organic sequence entry

without needing to build it up

[sage wren]

Nah manually run, its gimmick account

[chilly fulcrum]

By who

[echo wasp]

i swear if this is another fake barrier

it is one

[sage wren]

i cant be bothered to check

[echo wasp]

1A81E

[sage wren]

labie

[echo wasp]

1AA1E

[trim pond]

better U+e007f for c0000 and e0000 lineage
"hi 𐀀 C 𠀀" here #1206592567622373446 message
"🏴{e007f}" here #1206592567622373446 message
and it's actually perfect cause you already make the top left element in the lineage for U+c0000 / U+e0000

nice now the only hard thing (i hope) left to do is maybe optimising "{scottish_flag}{e007f}" to not use Without First Character or Delete First Word and then the xx000

[echo wasp]

1ac1e

[chilly fulcrum]

Did you just skip it

[echo wasp]

random non fd

[echo wasp]

yes, i skip all the fake barriers for now

[chilly fulcrum]

must have had quite the matrix set up to try deletes on

Nice

[echo wasp]

1ae1e

1ae9e

1af11

1a45e

1a3c7

2%

[chilly fulcrum]

You win

[echo wasp]

U+fffff to U+ffffe

????-10%

no way, we found a full plane!!!

[chilly fulcrum]

Wait what? going backward instead of forward? Interesting. I guess it skips stuff cause it’s lazy

[echo wasp]

U+15000 (top elements in reply)

all unextracted 15xxx block starts + 16xxx blokc start entrance

15040 15080 150c0

1st half of 15xxx block starts

and also why tf must hte second half be just extractions

[echo wasp]

actually, should I just get the block starts without posting lineage, and increment first

[chilly fulcrum]

isnt it normally just extractions?

[echo wasp]

it normally should increment + some extractions, not almost all extractions

[chilly fulcrum]

maybe i never got to test all combos but i cant really relate

[echo wasp]

also do we have anymore "fake barriers" like this?

[echo wasp]

maybe you just got the more annoying ones

or maybe i just got all the easier ones

[echo wasp]

i'm rich

[regal fulcrum]

i only have one save

i build onto it

[regal fulcrum]

huh

that's so odd

why does it do that you think?

[chilly fulcrum]

The upgrade

Ever since upgrading the emoji ai

it has given far less ❌❓🤔

and much more coin

all I can think is “wow you got a rare item you must be able to sell it for in game money”

or something

But we have very little emoji ai info

[echo wasp]

i got a lot of 🔍 (or 🔎)'s from 1axxx

lmao what

[chilly fulcrum]

how’s that working? like when does it decide to show the character as opposed to {00a}

[echo wasp]

i'm not too sure, alfo would know better

[trim pond]

i am not sure what the codepoint of !! is

ok it is U+203c

[echo wasp]

so now we know that it can block restart the first block...

why not 0000, or maybe even 20? would've been an interesting double space

[chilly fulcrum]

Huh? oh hmm

[echo wasp]

what

[trim pond]

yeah also happened when i was doing this

[echo wasp]

huhhhh??

[trim pond]

? lol

barrier break ig?

[chilly fulcrum]

Is that 3040

[chilly fulcrum]

Actually makes sense tho

It’s going from 7f to 80

Although 7f -> d3 80 is a bit of a stretch

(But it’s the best I could come up with)

[trim pond]

well it would need to go to \xc2\x80

so yeah idk

[chilly fulcrum]

What if it went to C0 80 💀

[trim pond]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

what would it be

[echo wasp]

if ai responded with something like \xf0\xc0\x80\x80, it will fffd, right?

[trim pond]

what would what be?

[chilly fulcrum]

If it is even capable of emitting a c0 then yes

Honest I’m not sure if it is a token

I mean

okay

the ai may be trained on binary data

so I guess if you wanted it to emit a binary file then it would need to have that

[echo wasp]

is the unassigned sheet updated (like are there still 16.0 chars there)

[trim pond]

it is

[echo wasp]

ok cool

looks like ever xx000 has their own special emoji

[trim pond]

i don't even know if this is better 😢. because it has a bit more steps, but doesn't use Removes

[heady escarp]

hold on is that an infinite craft reference?

how do you even know about infinite craft, its such an obscure game

cant believe people in this server keep talking about this really obscure game, its so random

[trim pond]

including you

[heady escarp]

why is it that in this server most people know about infinite craft, if on average on every server, almost no one knows about infinite craft

is this just a coincidence?

[trim pond]

hm yeah strange..

[heady escarp]

why is the developer of infinite craft in this server, i dont get jt

[chilly fulcrum]

what is the baseline

[candid trellis]

He isnt. It’s just Mika’s alt fr

[chilly fulcrum]

i did figure out why -10%

looks like the % formula was copied a bit too literally

it subtracts 21

because of impossible

in unassigned, there is no such thing

[trim pond]

basic tools and then xx000

also, extracted e0073, but e007f would be better

sadly i don't know how to get rid of one of the other e0xxx in the first element that contains e007f other than using Without First Character

[trail wagon]

magic

[sonic jetty]

why does last one have waving emoji

[trim pond]

👋

[chilly fulcrum]

i meant the previous route

[trim pond]

the c0 here #1206592567622373446 message
.

better U+e007f (quoted) for c0000 and e0000, based on Eisern's lineage #1206592567622373446 message

😦 but I really want to get rid of the Without First Character but can't figure that out

[chilly fulcrum]

ii see

can i have your exotic chars code i need to install it

[trim pond]

U+c0000, U+e0000
e007f recipe copied from Eisern's lineage #1206592567622373446 message

[trim pond]

#dev message

anyway i'm pretty happy with this lineage. don't think i can simplify it much further. only things I can think of is not using Without First Character and Without Spaces

[chilly fulcrum]

wow dang using the 10000 to make the 20000 stuff?

[tepid blaze]

for the moment i am just at 5ADB, its gonna be so slow (did respond to the wrong message, was supposed to be my other one above)

[chilly fulcrum]

i clearly did it wrong

mbs completely failed

but i cant tell what i did wrong

instead of telling me where the error is

it refers to some injected-web.js

wat

[tepid blaze]

i also hate those greek letter too, when it come to reviving them its awful to do

[chilly fulcrum]

fixed

[trim pond]

ha! this is everything you need for that lineage

[neat haven]

f4a6

[neat haven]

f4a8

[chilly fulcrum]

What entry did you follow to get in that deep?

[trim pond]

U+d128e

[neat haven]

f4aa

[neat haven]

?

[neat haven]

f4ab

[echo wasp]

alfo i remembered you had some filees for input tooling 3exxx and 3fxxx or sth?

[neat haven]

f4ac

this is the incrementing experience

[neat haven]

f4ad

this thing's actually messing with the emojis itself

[echo wasp]

it affected 1f600 as well

[trim pond]

yeah somewhere on discord, but without the block starts

U+d125e

[echo wasp]

it keeps doing 1d-1f

[trim pond]

U+d129e

[chilly fulcrum]

What was the entry into this new stuff for pua

[neat haven]

i mean i just followed this and the recipes on the sheet so i'm not sure exactly what you mean

[echo wasp]

what?

it's emoji is copyright symbol as well

what

[tepid blaze]

they are driving me crazy, like why these ones really have to be THAT annoying to get -_-

[echo wasp]

my ic lag is driving me crazy

[neat haven]

isn't this the same as the dotted capital i

[echo wasp]

well, it's not neal case exclusive

[echo wasp]

refreshing and closing made it worse

[neat haven]

f4bc

[echo wasp]

thanks

F73A

[wheat ferry]

If you really think, this character is similar to an I, and the I in roman numerals is represented as the number 1, people would think that the next letter would be 2, but if we turn the 1 in 2, we are just substituting, so we need a new Letter that makes sense in this scenario, in this case, the 10 is the closest number that has 2 digits to 1, this makes total sense

[echo wasp]

but it isn't?

[neat haven]

conspiracy theorist logic

[echo wasp]

ucsur isn't official unicode

[wheat ferry]

Then you'll need a new llama

Build a llama

[echo wasp]

these 2 visible char emoji chars look so weird xd

F6D3

[neat haven]

f4c3 (how aren't any of these fds??? i swear someone is secretly stealing)

[echo wasp]

no way, new thinnest element?

(thinner than zero width chars)

[neat haven]

come on we all know the shortest element is {0020}
it's so short it doesn't even exist

[echo wasp]

F6DD

fsr i have 0020 in my save??? (it probably came when i messed with c0 controls, as i have no recipe for it)

[echo wasp]

my favourite emoji

[neat haven]

f4c7

[trim pond]

U+d13f4

[tepid blaze]

im finnaly gonna get those x-x-x-x tools, idk why but i feel like gonna be long to get them all

[trim pond]

which ones do you mean?

[tepid blaze]

as many as i can find, but first the ones the most used

[neat haven]

f4e7

[neat haven]

i didn't know there was one
i always thought it was just prepend hyphen and s***

[tepid blaze]

also there possibly "easier"? recipe for U+21000:
Phags-pa + U+a800 = 𡀀

[trim pond]

no

Phags-pa is super simple though

[trim pond]

i didn't see any other recipe on IB for it

but maybe we could try bruteforcing some better recipe

[tepid blaze]

it was randomly that i found it didn't wanna get Phags-pa Script so i just hoped it would work with Phags-pa

[trim pond]

anyway

it's probably best to make all U+a800 U+12240 using "..u-" strat than doing the U+ + 12240

i think

because with one "..u-" and "numbers" you can get it quickly if you combine it with U+

[trim pond]

like the codepoints needed for the xx000 in the lineage

[tepid blaze]

yeah probably

[trim pond]

cause '800' isn't really good

[tepid blaze]

"..u-" + "a" = "..u-a"
"..u-a" + "800" = "..u-a800"
"..u-a800" + U+ = U+a800

don't know how good are number in "" but

[neat haven]

f4f9

[trim pond]

yeah that's what I'm saying. because you need to make like 3 other codepoints, this feels to have the biggest potential

[tepid blaze]

yeah could be a good idea to try

[neat haven]

f4fc

[trim pond]

U+1d452

[neat haven]

f4fe

finally the hellhole of f4xx done

this might be the best section to increment

[trim pond]

U+d145e

[neat haven]

f50b (finally an fd)

[neat haven]

f50e

[neat haven]

f50f

f526

f52c

f576

[trim pond]

U+d1556

[tepid blaze]

169 steps U+21000: 𡀀

[neat haven]

f591

[trim pond]

U+d159e

[neat haven]

f597

[trim pond]

U+d16d1

[trim pond]

U+d16de

[kind hound]

how do u make it show the unicodes on top

like,whats the script

[candid trellis]

MBS

[kind hound]

i do have MBS but it doesnt show

[kind hound]

oh thank you

[trim pond]

?

i think some of the emojis have a much simpler recipe on IB

[kind hound]

oh right

uhhh...

[trim pond]

or did you have a different goal?

[kind hound]

i was tryna get U+1F0AX

and got these..

and they werent here

[trim pond]

wdym they weren't here?

like searchable in discord?

[kind hound]

yup

[trim pond]

the elements that don't require a lineage aren't really necessary to put in discord

[kind hound]

oh. . .

[trim pond]

you can look in the sheets which unicodes we have and what recipes we have. the assigned ones are all done so you can only optimise, the unassigned aren't all done

[kind hound]

sorry,ima delete them now

[trim pond]

this lizard's name is Ditoe

it's my pet lizard now

[tepid blaze]

i wonder does anyone have a recipe for 𢀀 that does not need Cjk Ideographs Extension (C and all others, except if there a fast recipe for them)?

i know the chance are low but still asking

[trim pond]

Q is required for 23000 so... but maybe if you figure a way to get 23000 from the 20000 21000 22000 chain in the lineage that would be awesome

[trim pond]

idk about fast recipe, but Rubiks shared a pretty good one requiring "c" and "jk", and I also shared one, not sure which one is faster though cause the recipes can be shared right

i mean the thing is, mine requires Remove The Mr. which isn't ideal cause it isn't in the lineage at all so that would need to be changed

[tepid blaze]

cause rn i got a 298 steps for that

[trim pond]

hm.. ig rubiks' requires that as well

oh fuetz, you're looking at the old lineage

[tepid blaze]

goddammit

[trim pond]

i was wondering why you were doing the one with hyphens

the new one is with the fancy coloring

right below is also a list of all prerequisites

[tepid blaze]

still pretty optimised at least eh

[trim pond]

yeah

[heady escarp]

maybe the emoji slot for the question mark takes up space

[tepid blaze]

could you send a link to it? (the message)

[trim pond]

#1206592567622373446 message
prerequisites here #1206592567622373446 message

[tepid blaze]

thx

[trim pond]

i tried to not use remove tools, but maybe it would be faster to have some if they are also used to make the xx000 required chars. hard to tell

first half of U+d1xxx

this half was the most annoying one so far

[tepid blaze]

i would say in the 400 - 499 steps

[trim pond]

yeah i think definitely that, but i feel like over time we can push it below 400

the lineage has ~77 steps

[tepid blaze]

yeah maybe

randomly got this, utility idk

[trim pond]

huh is there a diacritic mark in there?

[trim pond]

on my screen the right top thingy in the left char looks like that

looks like it isn't connected

[kind hound]

how can i convert this to symbol?

[sage wren]

it's impossible

[kind hound]

dang it

[trim pond]

U+d19ce

U+d191e

[trim pond]

U+d1d1a

[weak spindle]

U+2215

[trim pond]

second half of d1xxx

i mean... we don't even need input tool for planes 4-11 and 16 yet, so we can just have 2

[chilly fulcrum]

Ha

[trim pond]

U+d2040, U+d2080, U+d20c0

[trim pond]

all block starts in the range U+d2100 - U+d2fc0
Mr. Append(' 󒃀') here #1206592567622373446 message

[trim pond]

U+d2f00
󒀀 󒁀 󒂀 and 󒶀 󒷀 󒸀 󒹀 here #1206592567622373446 message

asd do you want to finish 2fxxx ? there's only 227 left

or finish inputting if you already have it

then we will have finished our first entire plane

U+d20de

[chilly fulcrum]

did anyone get e000b and beyond?

[trim pond]

wdym?

ohh yeah I think there are still some fds left below e0020

but not below e0015 i think

btw who got e1000 fd?

[chilly fulcrum]

Couldn’t pass e000a

[trim pond]

yeah you have to use like the "hi seq. " to increment or smth

[echo wasp]

151dd 1525d 1541d 1545d 1559d 1571d 1599d 15a1d 15d1d 15d5d 15d9d 15e1d 15e9d 15f5d 15f9d

ignore ^

[trim pond]

what is this asd? explain yourself.

i think it is encoded message

maybe it means something like i like coffee

but who knows

i might ping neal, he probably knows more about your message than me

@ neal

[echo wasp]

15xxx gaps

[trim pond]

maybe making a chain would be the best

or use the 10000 20000 30000 e0000 to increment by 1

[echo wasp]

you can use this to get everything before e0020, tho not everything is extracted (I don't think so at least)

[trim pond]

unicorns, yellow circles, arrows and butterflies are coming to the top

[echo wasp]

and shrugging man

[trim pond]

ah yeah, well also the coin and thinking guy doubled

but in terms of the positions the ones i mentioned moved up

[echo wasp]

ah

[trim pond]

what is your distribution?

[echo wasp]

will check later

also, do you think ❓️ will lever get overtaken?

[wheat ferry]

What about this gold medal?

Why

And this water

Prompted Poseidon Reference?

[echo wasp]

time to add "next-letter" to my tools

[chilly fulcrum]

Your tools? As in pins or just stuff you know about

[echo wasp]

most of the 🔍 are from 1axxx

[echo wasp]

what would be a consistent sequence to follow? the one above?

[chilly fulcrum]

Wdym reset chain

[echo wasp]

2f3e0

2f6a9

2ff11

2* completed planes!

i remembered radu did some 11xxx unassgiend

19751

another fake barrier grr

[echo wasp]

yeah, that's what makes the zero width chars lose (i'm looking at the width of the full element, which include the emoji)

[chilly fulcrum]

Hmm?

[echo wasp]

surely now we just need a zerowidth char with a combinign char as the emoji

[chilly fulcrum]

How can you be thinner than zero width

Hmm odd

[neat haven]

f619

f61e

f623

[echo wasp]

😱

[trim pond]

😱

[echo wasp]

F6A9

fxxx is almost done

F6F9

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm wow... i guess we had organic f000 entries, but i didnt know of any nuke ones

[echo wasp]

f626

F62E

[trim pond]

now fxxxx to have 1/2 done?

[echo wasp]

i'll do 1xxxx first

[trim pond]

all of it?

asking cause the 10xxx might give some trouble after the capitals

[echo wasp]

maybe not all

193ce

19752

[chilly fulcrum]

oh yeah i had like my first ic dream that i can remember... it was that niko found how to get U+80000

also wait asd how far zoomed out are you able to play and see the codepoints/tofu? i have to be zoomed in really far so my chain and my matrix of variants of chain elements are painful to move between lol, but oh wait you do have that tooltip so nvm

[echo wasp]

i play om 80%

im so done

[chilly fulcrum]

wow 80%? then you must be scrolling crazy far to reach all that stuff

or your 80% is really zoomed out

[echo wasp]

nah

[chilly fulcrum]

i certainly am... to get all the variants of the quoted chains to just pace through the pua myself involved a lot of scrolling around

[night dragon]

i play 75%

[chilly fulcrum]

then where is it

[echo wasp]

where is what

[trim pond]

i hope better U+c0000 and U+e0000 (doesn't require Without Spaces and Without First Character)

prerequisites:

[trim pond]

82 steps

[echo wasp]

cna someone get 16ec0 and 16fc0?

[chilly fulcrum]

wheres the skip

[glad roost]

guys we need 15 more fire emote

[trail wagon]

zzzzz

[trim pond]

😠 😤

[chilly fulcrum]

oh you got up that far in incrementing?>

with optimising?

[trim pond]

🙂

[trim pond]

no, i am going the other way around

anyway is there anywhere a list of all combos of cjk ideographs extension + U+1xxxx ? ib isn't loading all recipes

[plush jasper]

My userstyle adds FairfaxHD as a font you can use. FairfaxHD implements all of UCSUR https://www.kreativekorp.com/ucsur/ and has some glyphs of its own for things like non-standard punctuation marks, logos (like the apple logo, windows logo, etc), seven segment display patterns, stuff like that.

https://www.kreativekorp.com/charset/font/FairfaxHD/block/ Here's everything it implements.

[trim pond]

anyway this is what i'm thinking for the codepoints, top left are prerequisites

and this for 10000, 20000, 21000, the rest is cjk ideographs extension X

not sure if 1st would be better here for 10000, but since we already need A and C, H is probably easier?

ah and i left there Unicode Devangari, but it isn't needed

[chilly fulcrum]

lmao 10000 + 800 = 18000? i guess i would have tried it in the end

[trim pond]

wait what

wrong recipe

it is supposed to be "8000"

[chilly fulcrum]

you sure?

[trim pond]

yes

[neat haven]

i don't wanna do the unassigned lineages

[trim pond]

there's also this, but idk how to get U+5000 and U+18005 with it

[chilly fulcrum]

wait what is the bottleneck here

[trim pond]

can't append "0" easily, and also 5

and "5" isn't easy to get i think

[chilly fulcrum]

but you could before?

[echo wasp]

bumping

16xxx stuff, part 1

[chilly fulcrum]

why next code 1 2 lol

[echo wasp]

Part 2

[echo wasp]

i like how this made me "lose" 10 elements

[echo wasp]

163a9

16ec0
16xxx chains used: #1206592567622373446 message

ok wait i thought the 16xxx chains would be on ib.. i guess not

16xxx block starts

16fc0, stuff above

alfo, i thin the input tool ofr planes 12-16 works now

actually maybe not

wait what the hell

[trim pond]

what?

ok well i will test it later, or you can try inputting my stuff for the dxxxx stuff

[echo wasp]

yes i tried, but something's not right

i hid it for now

[trim pond]

ok

[echo wasp]

18xxx block starts

18d40, 18d80

[neat haven]

lazy to make line age
1005e - 1007f is basically combine codepoint with previous codepoint
it skips 10071 though so that one is 10070 + "next-codepoint"

[echo wasp]

nice lineage

[neat haven]

frfr

10027 is literally in the unicode sheet

1003b

10106 = 10105 + next codepoint

100fb - 100ff

[echo wasp]

190d08

[neat haven]

we're getting characters beyond unicode now

[trim pond]

ok so I am almost done optimising. only a coulpe things left, then cjk ideographs extension and then we will see how many steps it is

[echo wasp]

oh wait lmao

plane 27

[neat haven]

this is duocode now

[trim pond]

duicode

uno -> uni
duo -> dui

[echo wasp]

then what about triocode? trio -> trii?

[trim pond]

uno duo tre?

[neat haven]

tricode

[trim pond]

or where is trio from

[echo wasp]

oh wait hold on

[neat haven]

sexaviginticode:

[echo wasp]

yeah wait sth went wrong with my head

[neat haven]

10103 = 10101 + 10102
10104 = 10102 + 10103
10105 (alt) = 10103 + 10104

[echo wasp]

riation must not be trusted /s

[neat haven]

erm what the delta

10134 - 10136

[echo wasp]

gonna add radiation as editor

riation**

mb, that was definitely autocorrect, trust me

[neat haven]

no you are definitely ic's llama 2

/j

[trim pond]

i read that as "mbs definitely autocorrected" lol

[neat haven]

great what the hell is Tibetan Yi Syllabary Unicode

[echo wasp]

since when is that a thing

[echo wasp]

ai actually thinks that you are riotion

[trim pond]

only 4 things left

[echo wasp]

riation rations

[trim pond]

try to combine all partitions

did you get that?

[echo wasp]

what could this mean? does llama know riation's secret real name? (Orient, apparently)

[trim pond]

so like "" + 'riation', "r" + 'iation', "ri" + 'ation', "ria" + 'tion', "riat" + 'ion', "riati" + 'on', "riatio" + 'n', "riation" + ''

[neat haven]

no that's my 5th name

my full name is Ria Radiation Ration Riaton Riatio Orient Riotion Ation Rotation Variation

[echo wasp]

we just uncovered another one: riaton

oh

[neat haven]

i knew about that before hand...

[echo wasp]

i just found a new secrent name: Oriatron

im calling you Oriatron from now on

[neat haven]

why must you name me this way

insert the rest of the song

[echo wasp]

riation, how are you unable to spell irritation?

[neat haven]

because i am

irrational

[white prairie]

irriational number

[echo wasp]

and just like that, we found another name for riation

Oriatron's still the best though

[neat haven]

this character will be the death of everyone

[echo wasp]

ikr

and 05eb-05ee

but surely Oriatron will be able to get it

I believe in Oriatron

it's the year 2030, we have found a way to break 3ffff, 7ffff, and fffff.
we found all c0 controls legtimately (including 0000).
the only characters we have left are U+03A2, and U+05EB-U+05EE

[trim pond]

we don't have left?

[echo wasp]

huh?

oohhh

omg

[trim pond]

we lose all progress. :(

[echo wasp]

why were you happy about thay

[trim pond]

typo

[echo wasp]

(which is not what I did here)

[tepid blaze]

yeah i was right it will take a stupid amount of time 💀

[neat haven]

1018f

[echo wasp]

btw how's the dead check on all chars doing

[tepid blaze]

71A2 (just restarted it rn)

[neat haven]

i forgot i have editor perms now

br

[tepid blaze]

also don't know if someone here tried to revive those (cause i didn't suceed, mainly because combining char can already be annoying and wth greek letters its worse)

[heady escarp]

yes

[echo wasp]

did alfo_fish contribute? I forgot

[feral nest]

who's that

[sage wren]

No but alfo contributed to FEPW (he has fd on Inner)

[echo wasp]

hmm no idea... perhaps he didn't

[trim pond]

Hi! this is my first message in this thread

guys how do I get Unicode, I thought You + Code does it.

[trim pond]

what is fepw?

fastest entry private warzone?

[echo wasp]

Yi Unic Ode + Delete The Space

sadly that's the only recipe

[sage wren]

There is a Sheet in #help pins with elements !

[tepid blaze]

just that took so long 💀

took me 510 steps

[trim pond]

from base?

or from what

[tepid blaze]

from base

with some part that are badly optimised (number and all)

[echo wasp]

surely if we bruteforce enough, we will randomly get 4xxxx

[trim pond]

were you doing it by hand?

[tepid blaze]

C0000 in 653 steps: 󀀀

there obvious optimisation in some parts, but i needed to at least get it done even if some part are badly optimised

E0000 in 649 steps: 󠀀

[trim pond]

U+c0000, U+e0000

[tepid blaze]

damn

[trim pond]

i am still not sure if my way to get Phangs-Pa would make it faster or not. you wouldn't need the Coptic stuff and Javanese, but you'd need Phag and Pa. hm... maybe that would be faster

not sure

[tepid blaze]

you made it while i was also making it or just optimised further my version?
-# just curious

[trim pond]

oh you'd also need Hyphen-minus

no i made it independently

but I did look at your recipe for 21000 on IB

.
i can send you the lineage as in Tab Utils if you want to optimise further

[tepid blaze]

i had enough of it for the day i think, lol

[trim pond]

xd me too

the people who voted 500+ steps already failed

[tepid blaze]

yep

at least i voted the one that currently right, but surely it can go sub 400...?

[trim pond]

also gonna share ib link
U+c0000
https://infinibrowser.wiki/item/01jfn8mk91b837jf8h2gcwgzsb

[tepid blaze]

i wonder is there another Unicode char that has a awful lineage in term of length?

[trim pond]

U+e0000
https://infinibrowser.wiki/item/01jfn8pdyx26nszadr769nggnm

somehow on IB it is only 446 and 450 steps

[trim pond]

ok i think i figured out a way to shave off tens of steps (probably). but i don't have time rn to try it

[tepid blaze]

still cool but sad, ive spent the whole day optimising (not in the best way but still, and then a lineage for the two together that take ~ -200 compared to mine get posted just 13 minute after) 💀

[trim pond]

yeah i am sorry, but i am glad you tried to help. i also spent the whole day on it

[tepid blaze]

yeah no its okay no need to be sorry or anything, just that i wasn't expecting to see one more optimised so soon

[echo wasp]

alright the input tool worked

[chilly fulcrum]

Hmm? Where did the 1000 step save come from

[chilly fulcrum]

Honest no idea how you can optimise such a large lineage there’s too much to do, but like the codepoint creation is something have zero clue how to do

[trim pond]

nice, I will continue dxxxx soon

[trim pond]

415 step U+c0000, 418 step U+e0000

[echo wasp]

now do i do 14xxx or 1cxxx

[chilly fulcrum]

How is prepend Mr better than mr. .

[trim pond]

because mr. . takes like 5 steps more, prepend mr. is only 1 step more, and works the same on the things that I needed it for

[trim pond]

1cxxx is quite easy to increment iirc, but 14xxx should also be

[chilly fulcrum]

Also I can’t really see the codepoints so idk how e0000 is only a few more steps than c0000?

They were not close to each other at all last I knew

[trim pond]

yeah well e0000 is more cause idk how to get rid of the spaces without having to use c0000 where i got rid of the spaces. and you get c0000 from e0000 easily so that's why they're close

[chilly fulcrum]

Wait what?