#Unicode

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echo wasp
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one moment

tepid blaze
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yeah no it hasn't been found (it doesn't combine)

chilly fulcrum
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We never figured out fonts

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we wanted to have fonts to make it easier

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but I don’t think we ever got something bundled in the game

echo wasp
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we do

plush jasper
chilly fulcrum
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Was always user had to install font

tepid blaze
chilly fulcrum
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F0000-fffff

tepid blaze
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oh yeah those, totally forgot we did get them

chilly fulcrum
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The other plane good luck getting because the byte 0xf4 is needed which will have been in about zero percent of the training

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the byte f1 and f2 may be worse

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not even pua they just aren’t used anywhere

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but maybe some system exists where it got some idk

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It is funny to watch ai behaviour when you ask for random Unicodes in those ranges and they fail

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but then if you send one character

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Suddenly they know

echo wasp
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ok this is more annoying than i thought

sage wren
chilly fulcrum
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Understandable

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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nice, what was the main struggle? you said it was being annoying

echo wasp
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incrementing the block starts

chilly fulcrum
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as in, last byte? It wouldn’t go up?

echo wasp
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second last byte, yeah, there are parts where is just refuses

chilly fulcrum
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so the nuke didn’t work?

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oof

plush jasper
chilly fulcrum
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so how do we add fonts bundled into the game

plush jasper
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?

chilly fulcrum
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well we always wanted to make a userscript that would fix all the annoying “what character is this I can’t see” or whatever

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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but that was always font dependent

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and we never got anything better than: tell the user to install these fonts and hope the game uses them

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So for ucsur I imagine the font just renders those codepoints

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but our solution would have involved: tell the user to install that font

plush jasper
chilly fulcrum
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oh?

plush jasper
chilly fulcrum
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well none of us knew that was possible - it would have helped a lot if we had lul

plush jasper
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this is stylus, aka "extension for userscripts but for css instead of javascript", aka "userstyles" aka THE CORRECT FUCKING WAY TO MAKE AESTHETIC CHANGES TO THE GAME

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people using userscripts just to change css bothers me so much

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because theres a thing for that

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its called userstyles

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you don't need to inject javascript just to change some css ffs

chilly fulcrum
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I can understand - but of course they don’t know that information

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they’re not doing it on purpose to annoy you I promise

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They would have learned that css controls styles - and they would have learned that js is capable of changing that

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Therefore the obvious solution presents itself

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I can’t blame that thought process

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of course it’s not ideal

plush jasper
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it is dumb tho

chilly fulcrum
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but it’s good to know that there’s better ways - better late than never

plush jasper
plush jasper
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then profit

chilly fulcrum
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okay nice well we can use that

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we can probably make a standard font for the Unicode stuff, although it’s less useful now

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ideally we would have had that about 6 months ago but still it’s good to have now

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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why do i get 403'ed

chilly fulcrum
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forbidden

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Why? Dunno

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Which one 403s

plush jasper
echo wasp
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yes

chilly fulcrum
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So that’s nice you could play with tp but be warned the longest item possible will be 4 characters

tepid blaze
echo wasp
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no way 100000th message again

chilly fulcrum
tepid blaze
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technically 5 in 3.1
-# (if Neal was to bring it back)

echo wasp
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yeah I def need that, it's failing quite a few

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
untold crystal
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not exactly what I had in mind, but I got these. they still fail to give me the u+40000. I'll be waiting for the next lama update, maybe it will work then

chilly fulcrum
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Wow nice you did well

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slashes in appends are hard

trim pond
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we could also make input tools separately for like planes 0-3, 4-7, 8-11, 12-16

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if that makes it faster

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so 4 ITs

chilly fulcrum
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could do

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since it’s not likely we work on multiple opening bytes at once

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I’m not sure if it would be faster

echo wasp
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what are some I should consider

trim pond
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Mr., quotes, maybe like Mr. AB + next = Mr. AC

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or 񁀀 򁀀 􁀀 A + next = 񁁀 򁁀 􁁀 B

chilly fulcrum
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Star probably has a good way to formalise the logic of how we make all the 4 in a row options in a way that’s simple to code but hard to think of

echo wasp
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yeah i def trust that

trim pond
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good

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very good

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now test the recipe. you have 5 minutes and no excuses and no help

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starting now:

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5 mins left

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4 mins left

echo wasp
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what

trim pond
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3 mins left

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2 mins left

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1 minute left

tepid blaze
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<t:1734439080:R>

trim pond
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Time's up. You failed.

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also what?

tepid blaze
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<t:-999999999080:R> its literaly just me that did choose the unix time, i just failed to add :R at the end which normally show when we are gonna get to or how long ago we got to it, so its not one minute off

tepid blaze
trim pond
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idk what format it's in. something by default. i never changed it

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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Years ago

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Often the negative isn’t there

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I’ve seen it before

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they just don’t put a negative

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or a BC

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(Negative and BC is actually different, the year -10 is 11 BC)

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Unfortunately the BC/AD system was invented before zero was “invented”

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so the idea of 0 AD didn’t even cross their minds

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Therefore it didn’t exist

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hence the discrepancy

tepid blaze
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yeah, its just funny that it doesn't directly tell that its before or after

trim pond
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wait ahhh a thanks to them we have ads (bc they had negative ads)

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🇦 🇩 🇸

chilly fulcrum
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and not the 21st century or 3rd millennium

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the longest lunar eclipse of the 20th century happened on July 16, 2000

trim pond
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i like to always think that the 1st century are years [100, 200), and so on (you then ofc have the 0th century)

chilly fulcrum
trim pond
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it's too conplicated to think about the 19th century as being 18xx

chilly fulcrum
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I don’t find it complicated

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when I was younger I didn’t get it

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But someone explained that you just minus one off the century number

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for example

trim pond
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yeah but that is unsatisfying to me. but i get that it is the 19th cause the first would obviously be the first 100 years which is 0xx

chilly fulcrum
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Tab is the 10th Unicode

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despite being U+0009

trim pond
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áaaaaaaaa

chilly fulcrum
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so yeah it’s a bit goofy but it means that the year 2024 AD is literally the 2024th year AD

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the latter is somewhat how it was said before

trim pond
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no

chilly fulcrum
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still somewhat today

trim pond
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isn't the year 2024 AD the 2025th year of AD

chilly fulcrum
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Nope

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there’s no 0 AD

trim pond
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cause 0 AD is also AD

chilly fulcrum
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1 AD is the first year AD

trim pond
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l what

chilly fulcrum
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It goes from 1 BC straight to 1 AD

trim pond
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huh really

chilly fulcrum
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Remember zero didn’t exist

trim pond
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hmmm right

mental ruin
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They just weren't crafted yet

chilly fulcrum
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always had to check off by one

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so they said nope we’re gonna use the negative system

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where the year -10 is 11 BC

mental ruin
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If I had time machine I would go back in time to the first day of IC release and craft String.fromcharcode

trim pond
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maybe we can redefine BC

chilly fulcrum
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Far too late

trim pond
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Hear me oyt

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x BC -> 1/(x + 1) AD, so year 9 BC is now year 1/10 AD

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now all years are positive

chilly fulcrum
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1 BC = undefined

trim pond
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and an older year has smaller number compared to newer years

chilly fulcrum
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Apart from 1 BC sure

mental ruin
trim pond
trim pond
chilly fulcrum
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well it makes math even harder

trim pond
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xd

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but no jwgative numbers

chilly fulcrum
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there’s nothing wrong with negative numbers unless you are one of those people that lives before zero was invented

mental ruin
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But 1 BC is not negative

trim pond
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yeah i am trying to make it easier for them

chilly fulcrum
trim pond
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BC and AD are on different scales

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or lines

chilly fulcrum
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mm not sure I’d agree

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9 BC does not map to anything AD

trim pond
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well kinda

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-8 AD?

chilly fulcrum
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but 9 C is 48.2F

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I guess it’s like non overlapping scales

chilly fulcrum
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which doesn’t exist

echo wasp
mental ruin
trim pond
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btw why can't you get efff fd asd?

echo wasp
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cuz the auto incrementing tool got it

trim pond
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ahh

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who do you think is gonna have 100 fds first?

echo wasp
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why is it invisible

chilly fulcrum
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100

trim pond
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no, 100 fds

trim pond
chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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wait what i can;t copy ee00

chilly fulcrum
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Null

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Private Null

echo wasp
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(from the sheet)

trim pond
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yeah huh?

chilly fulcrum
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You can’t copy it

echo wasp
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??????????????

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what

trim pond
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hah you have fd on null?

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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why is it colon and quote lol

chilly fulcrum
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did you install mikas thing? Maybe it’s that?

trim pond
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are the recipes in IB? for ee01 and ee02

echo wasp
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i didn't i'm still 403'ed

echo wasp
trim pond
echo wasp
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it shows up when i double click it

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???????????????????????

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wtf

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supposed to be "hi 𩸀 "

trim pond
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can't paste it in?

echo wasp
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can be pasted, but it is displayed like that

trim pond
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also why so many "

echo wasp
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ee00 = many quotes apparently

neat haven
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how you get the unassigned

echo wasp
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should i do fxxx? (idk i don't think it has good increment ability)

echo wasp
neat haven
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why can't i see it

echo wasp
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resources page, sister projects

neat haven
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oh

trim pond
echo wasp
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alright, just gonna fill up one exxx gap

neat haven
echo wasp
neat haven
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my god

echo wasp
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exxx done

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idk about fxxx

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from what i've heard its terrible

tepid blaze
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ED40?, it seems its the only one that not in

echo wasp
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input tool blunder xd

tepid blaze
echo wasp
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i'll try fxxx for myself first

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i'd imagine the ones close to emojis are absolutely terrible

tepid blaze
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some part are just awful and the ai really don't want to increment easily

neat haven
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the swirly emoji element is 245c

echo wasp
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cool

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ig new tool i need to add? lol

neat haven
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idk

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i tried random things and that worked

tepid blaze
echo wasp
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bruh i want... but i get 403ed

neat haven
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i swear i have this font

tepid blaze
# echo wasp bruh i want... but i get 403ed

source code of it```
/* ==UserStyle==
@name UCSUR Support for Infinite Craft
@version 20241217.09.24
@namespace ?
==/UserStyle== */

@-moz-document regexp(".://neal\.fun\/infinite-craft/?.") {
@font-face {
font-family: 'Fairfax HD';
src: url('https://sitelen.pona.la/families/FairfaxHD/FairfaxHD.ttf') format('truetype');
}

.container {
font-family: Roboto, sans-serif, 'Fairfax HD' !important;
}
.item-emoji, .instance-emoji {
font-family: Roboto, sans-serif !important;
}
}

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technically me i also modified it just a bit, and added the search bar too cause it wasn't using the font

echo wasp
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papas download this, new invis char

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the tool said that  + "hi Mr. <" = "hi Mr. +", and i thought something went wrong lol

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i odnt understand

tepid blaze
neat haven
echo wasp
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oh lmao

tepid blaze
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a bit more visible like that

pulsar island
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How can I find all the unassigned characters that I have

echo wasp
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veyr cool combining char

neat haven
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the only solution i can think of is

tepid blaze
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^ and #1206592567622373446 message

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probably gonna modify stats page and just make it a home page with direct link to that

pulsar island
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I have some unassignedff

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How can I find themm

neat haven
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regex search for ^.$ using the dbounce beta extension and find the boxy ones

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otherwise i've got no clue

tepid blaze
neat haven
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f02c ("hi Next Codepoint" + f02b)

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why doesn't it look like the squid game symbols

neat haven
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why does f02d like to change next to previous

echo wasp
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why is this actually annoying

neat haven
echo wasp
neat haven
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bruh

echo wasp
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lol

pulsar island
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Lol

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Bruh

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Why delete

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Sus

neat haven
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me when i typo

echo wasp
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whats the f02c recipe

neat haven
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fsr it doesn't work there

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i have no clue how to change that

echo wasp
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ok my tool is incrementing it

chilly fulcrum
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Running inside a while true? also does it spawn the item on the board or nah?

echo wasp
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it runs on command prompt

chilly fulcrum
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Oh, you got past cloudflare? Neat

echo wasp
neat haven
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works for me

echo wasp
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oh wait, i accidentally replied

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lol

neat haven
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bruh

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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ok after trying out fxxx, i dont think i'll do it, at least not now

trim pond
trim pond
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it is only 2e and 2f left

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would be whole plane done

echo wasp
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I did most of 2fxxx, but ofc no recipes logged

echo wasp
trim pond
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it would be at least faster than any of us doing it cause you now have it "cached"

echo wasp
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here are a few examples

trim pond
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and i also did all of 2exxx so ig at some point ill redo

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you can do just 2fxxx

echo wasp
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the game associating it with 👍

trim pond
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then we can move onto 3xxxx maybe

echo wasp
trim pond
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hmm there's actually still some unassigned at the ends of the cjk extensions actually

tepid blaze
trim pond
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so not only 2e and 2f. but the others are only like till the ends of the blocks iirc

echo wasp
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yeah there's a few 2axxx ones

trim pond
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i will do all not 2fxxx since i already have the preceding ones

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and probs post recipes for input tool here for 2exxx until IT is done

echo wasp
trim pond
trim pond
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wait how hard is *ffxxx to increment

echo wasp
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idk

trim pond
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or e0xxx

echo wasp
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why cfxxx?

trim pond
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ah idk

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yeah whatever idk

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eoxxx probs

trim pond
echo wasp
trim pond
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wait what is after f8ff, the pua sheet stops

echo wasp
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assigned chats

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chars*

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mainly, the other block that murdered me

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savio will understand the pain

tepid blaze
trim pond
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so more cjk?

echo wasp
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cjk, but better, since it keeps becoming emojis

neat haven
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f12b - f13f

trim pond
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oh wait right.. fe0f etc. idk how i forgot

echo wasp
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fuezt you're gonna have to add them, my WiFi is killing me again

neat haven
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every codepoint everything in f is s***

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why must it decrement

echo wasp
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agree

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"next-codepoint" is quite good

trim pond
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decrement strats? increment tool with secret fxxx that forces the AI to decrement?

echo wasp
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block starts are now 3f 7f bf ff

trim pond
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xd

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yeah

tepid blaze
echo wasp
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not as bad at f9xx, at least

tepid blaze
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there even unstable zones where there some chars who are hard to increment and love to dissapear when in element!

echo wasp
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and become emojis

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alfo you should go get the plane 0 chars!

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there's like, a lot of them that are found but not added

tame violet
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h

echo wasp
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?

halcyon shale
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Next project should be all llama tokens

mental ruin
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Wait a sec

echo wasp
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id rather do unassigned and pua

pulsar island
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2f713-2f725 needed?

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10951-1097f

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i have only those as fd

echo wasp
neat haven
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finally learned how to chain (f140)

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f141 - f17f (f16c = f16b + f16a (i missed a spot))

echo wasp
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Nice, learning barrier breaks!

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fuezt have fun adding them all

pulsar island
echo wasp
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ok

neat haven
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i'm becoming humanoid deflector offender

echo wasp
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ok well since riation and fuezt are doing fxxx, I don't have to touch it anymore!

neat haven
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hey no fair

echo wasp
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🙂

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fine I'll get the block starts tmr

trim pond
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so 2fxxx it is?

trim pond
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U+2ee80, U+2eec0, U+2ef00, U+2ef40, U+2ef80, U+2efc0
𮀀 𮁀 𮂀 𮃀, 𮨀 𮩀 𮪀 𮫀 and 𮬀 𮭀 𮮀 𮯀 here #1206592567622373446 message

dapper dawn
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hello, is this assigned now? it looks different

candid trellis
dapper dawn
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so it will get added in the future?

candid trellis
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possibly

dapper dawn
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nice, then I will have contributed

trim pond
trim pond
dapper dawn
trim pond
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󀀀 󁀀 󂀀 󃀀 and 󑀀 󒀀 󓀀 󔀀 for reference
𬀀 𭀀 𮀀 𯀀 and 𰀀 𱀀 𲀀 𳀀 here #1206592567622373446 message

trim pond
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lol I actually found a super fast way to get U+fffff (you don't need to increment from U+ff000 at all)

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rest of block starts for reference
"󑀀 󒀀 󓀀 󔀀 and 󀀀 󁀀 󂀀 󃀀 here #1206592567622373446 message

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U+fffc0, U+fffff
󽀀 󾀀 󿀀 󿾀 here #1206592567622373446 message

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crazy lol

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@tepid blaze can you give me access to pua sheet for adding U+fx000 and also U+fffc0, U+fffff

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😱 no way 50% ALREADY 🎉 🥳

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U+d7000, U+d8000
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feral nest
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are these unnasigned or pua?

trim pond
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U+d9000, U+da000, U+db000, U+dc000
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trim pond
feral nest
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ah

trim pond
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interestingly enough U+fxxxx does actually render some things i think. if you have the fonts

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but yeah, i think, I didn't confirm it

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better U+dc00
󙀀 󚀀 󛀀 󜀀 here #1206592567622373446 message

chilly fulcrum
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Asd found it hard to make f1980, did anything change to make these easier?

trim pond
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did he? idk if anything made it easier, depends on when he was making it

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U+dd000, U+de000, U+df000, U+e0000
󝀀 󞀀 󟀀 {e0000} here #1206592567622373446 message

chilly fulcrum
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Well I assume it was just getting started to actually make stuff

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like you have f0000 okay nice what now

trim pond
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add it at the end of 10000 20000 30000 and increment until you get your desired block start (for f1980 you have to start with f1000 though)

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anyway rubiks, you can make e0000 now easily ^^

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i think it is better than what we had before anyway. cause it doesn't require to get any block ends or whatever. i don't actually even remember what it required originally

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but I think i will update the recipe with this one cause I think it is much easier as in the requirements for it

trim pond
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what do you think (about e0000)

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you really want to increment past f0fc0?

chilly fulcrum
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oh the other token

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I see

chilly fulcrum
trim pond
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yeah basically you only need the xx000 stuff which is easily obtainable, then you increment a bit, extract the dx000 and cx000 to make 2 new chain elements, increment and then extract the e0000

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U+e1000, U+e2000, U+e3000, U+e4000, U+e5000
{e0000} 󡀀 󢀀 󣀀 here #1206592567622373446 message
"󑀀 󒀀 󓀀 󔀀 here #1206592567622373446 message

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also isn't it crazy that there is 4096 block starts in \xf3

chilly fulcrum
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only 1024 in f4 but same as others otherwise (if you include over length encoding in f0)

trim pond
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yeah but you wouldn't guess that there's this many (without thinking about it too much)

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or maybe you would, but i didn't

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U+e6000, U+e7000
󤀀 󥀀 󦀀 󧀀 here #1206592567622373446 message

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🦀

chilly fulcrum
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Remove the first word

trim pond
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🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀

trim pond
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U+e8000, U+e9000, U+ea000, U+eb000
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wait i have an easier recipe for U+e0000

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forgot i got it last weekend

chilly fulcrum
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Oh?

trim pond
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all U+e0xxx block starts
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trim pond
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you do not need to make c0 c1 c2 c3

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(it wasn't hard, but this is faster so yeah)

trim pond
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better U+e0000
{e0000} {e0040} {e0080} {e00c0} here #1206592567622373446 message

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hm.. maybe you don't even need to delete middle characters. oh well

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U+ec000, U+ed000, U+ee000, U+ef000
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anyway all of these should be on IB once it verifies and uploads again.

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i am not going to do fx000 now since i don't have edit access for pua yet

trim pond
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U+d0040, U+d0080, U+d00c0
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trim pond
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hm.. is this a crab that is learning the names of the continents? or maybe the names of the planets

trim pond
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block starts in the range U+d0100 - U+d0c80

chilly fulcrum
trim pond
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helper increment tools "𐀀 𠀀 𰀀 " and "𐀁 𠁀 𰁀 "

trim pond
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i mean i don't think that at any point you need to extract c0 c1 c2 c3, unless you want d7000+

chilly fulcrum
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E0000 is more than d7000

trim pond
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except e0000 ofc. i thought you were talking about the lineage where you get d7000 from d1 d2 d3 d4

chilly fulcrum
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Oh

trim pond
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well you need to extract those ofc but not anything else

trim pond
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thx

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but i have to say the block incrementing is awful for some reason 😦

chilly fulcrum
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Why

trim pond
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how would i know

chilly fulcrum
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you’re the one trying, what’s not working

echo wasp
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maybe it's pua?

trim pond
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block starts in the range U+d0cc0 - U+d0f00
"𐀀 𠀀 𰀀 " and "𐀁 𠁀 𰁀 " here #1206592567622373446 message

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kinda gave up on the "normal" chain

chilly fulcrum
#

Ah ok

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fair

echo wasp
trim pond
#

anyway "new" strat (or new variation)

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btw i think i'll do the dxxxx so maybe when your're done with 2fxxx you can do either cxxxx, exxxx or fxxxx, same with rubiks, we can each choose one of the ranges

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and radu when he comes back

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U+d0f40, U+d0f80, U+d0fc0
"𐀀 𠀀 𰀀 " and "𐀁 𠁀 𰁀 " here #1206592567622373446 message

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anyway the strat is: increment blocks and when it stops / skips, reset the chain

#

dk how well it works in general, but it did the job here

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could theoretically be also done by a program (to get block starts)

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there's not really anything complicated

trim pond
#

I know, I am now giving this incrementing strategy the name Russian Roulette

sage wren
#

i think theres already something called russian roulette

#

can it be tuvan twenty-one instead

trim pond
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no

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noone said there couldn't be two roussian roulettes. and also, the other one is all lowercase, mine is capitalised at the start

trim pond
#

no

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or what exactly do you mean

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what i did isn't really what i would've normally done

chilly fulcrum
#

hmm

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from what i recall it was a pretty standard strategy

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to increment by 40

trim pond
#

yes, but i would usually make the other chars that you increment with have one common byte, but here there aren't really any (if you exclude \x80)

chilly fulcrum
#

hmm

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ok

trim pond
#

like i incremented to U+d0c80, then I made that chain with 10 20 30 d0, incremented to d0f00, then made that chain again (both times starting with 10000, 20000, etc. + 100040, 200040, etc.)

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russian roulette because you never know when you're going to die (eg. it stops incrementing), but then you always start fresh with the same base

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also the lineage looks like there are bullets

chilly fulcrum
#

10040, 20040?

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ill get e0000 rn

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although i hate discord links being broken

trim pond
#

should be clear why 10040 20040 from the lineage

chilly fulcrum
#

its not taking me to how to make d1 d2 d3 d4

trim pond
#

if you refresh it works

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that is why i don't like to reply, cause then you can't do that

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reply doesn't change the url

chilly fulcrum
#

no im on desktop i cant refresh

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but it changes the url

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like when i refresh it tries to take me there but then the url suddenly changes

chilly fulcrum
trim pond
#

oh yeah not refreshing

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what you do is you click the url, then click enter

chilly fulcrum
#

i wont, im trying to figure out the lineage for e0000

#

i cant figure it out rn

trim pond
#

yeah wait so did my trick work?

chilly fulcrum
#

#1206592567622373446 message

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i think?

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but from there its not clear how to make the ingredients

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ig i check unassigned sheet

trim pond
chilly fulcrum
#

well, i need to make d1 d2 d3 d4, which to do so i need d1, d2, d3, and d4

trim pond
#

oh yeah, you have to extract them

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i thought it was a different lineage

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just search U+d1000 on discord, that is faster than looking in the sheet

echo wasp
#

new invis char (with mika's thing)

trim pond
# chilly fulcrum sorry but no.... im priobably stupid

so I have U+d0ec0 and U+d0f00 and want to increment to get U+d0f40 and so on. so i make U+10000 U+20000 U+30000 U+d0ec0 and U+10001 U+20040 U+30040 U+d0f00, and then combine them together. if you look at the bytes in the recipe are:

\xf0\xa0\x80\x80
\xf0\xb0\x80\x80
\xf3\x90\xbb\x80
+
\xf0\x90\x80\x81
\xf0\xa0\x81\x80
\xf0\xb0\x81\x80
\xf3\x90\xbc\x80
=
\xf0\x90\x80\x82
\xf0\xa0\x82\x80
\xf0\xb0\x82\x80
\xf3\x90\xbd\x80```
as you can see, the last character doesn't have anything in common with the previous ones (if you look at the two least significant bytes in an element), normally i'd do it so that the second least significant byte of the \xf3 character is the same as the 1st or 2nd least significant byte of the other chars (if you know what I mean, in this example they are \x81 and \x82)
chilly fulcrum
#

the revival on this must be brutal

trim pond
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wasn't too bad. but i wanted to make it easier and not use stuff like "remove Mr" and i am not sure if there was anything else quite difficult

chilly fulcrum
#

turns out i had a better lineage

trim pond
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really?

chilly fulcrum
#

cause i folowed those steps

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and the item i got was not new

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but the intermediates were

#

ill check once i finish

trim pond
#

hmm

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yeah that is very much possible, there's loads of ways to make a given element

chilly fulcrum
#

well it looks like it was similar

trim pond
#

not sure if i want to make a new message but maybe I could link it if it is a lot easier

chilly fulcrum
#

i just didnt use mr

trim pond
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ok

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if you want you can isolate the e0xxx block starts

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or do you only want e0000,... ig the rest isn't really useful

chilly fulcrum
#

just hold your horses im working onit

echo wasp
#

new invis char

chilly fulcrum
#

was hoping id have 34 35 36 37

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i have only 31 32 33 34

trim pond
#

for what?

chilly fulcrum
#

you give an interesting lineage for 23000

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mine is just cjk ideographs extension Q + U+18005

trim pond
#

yeah well you can also do that but I thought i could just make it from the other ones

chilly fulcrum
#

okay got to the first spawn of c0000

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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all block starts for fxxx (pua only)
to get chain", combine chain with "()
to get "chain", combine chain or chain" with "prepend Quotation Marks"
failing that, combine chain" with "prepend Quotation Marks"
for unquoting "chain", combine it with Delete The Quotation Mark
chain starts at 28000 29000 2a000 f000
p.s.: starting element: #1206592567622373446 message

chilly fulcrum
#

?

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where does the c1 spawn in and c2?

#

the links lead to c0

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not c1

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or c2

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
#

yes

chilly fulcrum
#

how is it meant to be followed

#

oh

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nvm

chilly fulcrum
#

ok got it

#

figured it out

#

now to get c3 and c4

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managed to figure that out too

#

not a great sign that the way im using to extract is fd

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got c1000

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but others not quite working yet

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ah

#

got them

#

got c0 c1 c2 c3

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but now how to proceed... hmm

echo wasp
#

all fxxx block starts extracted
to extract you do this
(char is the 2xxxx chars, fxxx is the fxxx block start)

"char char char fxxx" + Delete Middle Characters / Delete The Middle Word = "char fxxx" // if it gives "char char fxxx", then just combine that with Delete Middle Characters / Delete The Middle Word again
"char fxxx" + "hi " / "hi <" = "hi char fxxx"
"hi char fxxx" + Remove The Word Hi / Delete The Hi = fxxx```

if neither Delete Middle Characters nor Delete The Middle Word gave `"char fxxx"`, then do this to get `"char fxxx"`:
```"char char char fxxx" + Without First Character (x2) = "char fxxx"```

if `"prepend quotation marks"` doesn't quote `Char char char fxxx`, do this:
```Char char char fxxx + "() = Char char char fxxx"
Char char char fxxx" + "prepend quotation marks" / String.prepend('"') = "char char char fxxx"```
If it duplicates the fxxx, combine with `Delete Middle Characters`
If it gives `char fxxx`,  do this:
```"hi char fxxx" + Remove First Word = "hi fxxx"
"hi fxxx" + Remove The Word Hi = fxxx```

For the char char char fxxx's: #1206592567622373446 message
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laziest lineage pt. 2

chilly fulcrum
#

lol i keep losing where my items are

#

got c5000

#

got d0 and d1

echo wasp
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ok gonna run the tool on fxxx

chilly fulcrum
#

does it dead check or does it just get every block start and then async them or what

tepid blaze
chilly fulcrum
chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
#

2007 is a whitespace... right

chilly fulcrum
#

got e0000 now. 2700 steps in browser in my save, but the classic "missing recipes"

echo wasp
#

false alarm, there was fffb at the back

chilly fulcrum
#

it also has got into some kind of loop and its not clear how to resolve it

#

oh

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
echo wasp
echo wasp
#

F068, F069

night dragon
#

what font is that

echo wasp
echo wasp
echo wasp
night dragon
#

which chars are these anytwau

echo wasp
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private use area

night dragon
#

i mean like the design

echo wasp
#

idk

#

F066, F1C7

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another 2 emoji char lol

echo wasp
#

which part?

tepid blaze
echo wasp
#

just wanted get it over with, and have a guaranteed way of getitng every char

neat haven
echo wasp
#

ocmpletely forgot

night dragon
#

@tepid blaze can i have PUA sheet edit persm

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sent requet

tepid blaze
#

I can't rn cause I am not on my pc so and it's kinda annoying on phone, but ig asd maybe can ( I say it cause I have seen him on the sheet)

night dragon
#

oke

echo wasp
#

𩀀 𪀀 𫀀 𬀀 in ib

night dragon
#

tahnks

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

for what purpose

echo wasp
#

start of fxxx and exxx block starts lineage

chilly fulcrum
#

oh hmm

#

ok

night dragon
chilly fulcrum
#

is that 28 29 2a 2b

echo wasp
night dragon
#

a

#

added all mine

night dragon
#

fun fact i hate puas kida since they are so annoying sobb

#

aojiiw

echo wasp
#

􀀀

neat haven
#

why does ib have to show only 1 step everytime

#

tedious ahh

echo wasp
#

yui is fixing it soonTM

golden ferry
golden ferry
echo wasp
#

only issue is that we don't know how long "soon" is

echo wasp
tepid blaze
#

hmmm okay?
"next-codepoint" +  = ‍‍

#

okay now what tf
"next-codepoint" + = ‍♂️

#

-_-
+ = ‍♀️

echo wasp
#

I like how my phone renders them as CJK

tepid blaze
#

lol

echo wasp
#

wait wtf why is there 200d

echo wasp
#

alfo i saw

#

what request alfo

trim pond
#

it's good, gameroman helped

echo wasp
#

k

trim pond
#

wait lol I thought it was in quotation makrs

echo wasp
#

don't mind the esq. and jr.

#

lol, it does look like it yeah

trim pond
#

esq. is a permutation of seq.

echo wasp
trim pond
#

does anyone know how to get String.remove('🏴')? eisern doesn't show it in his lineage and I can't figure it out #1206592567622373446 message

tepid blaze
#

nop

echo wasp
#

yeah i'll leave the rest of fxxx to others

trim pond
#

asd aren't you missing 􀀀

echo wasp
#

alright, rest of fxxx is on ya'll

#

more fds avaliable

#

i got ffc0 with the worst lineage ever

echo wasp
#

wtf i thought it was 43xxx for a second 😭

#

i believe this is just a barrier break (if we try enough combinations we should be able to get it)

#

but like idk

trim pond
#

?????? wtf why is this fd? i am literally following my lineage here #1206592567622373446 message

echo wasp
#

what

#

?????????/ wtf

trim pond
#

wait wtf eve nthe next elements are fd

echo wasp
#

omg!!!! it broke 40000 (reAL)

trim pond
#

???????

#

what the f is going on

#

how

echo wasp
#

huhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

trim pond
#

why is it telling me they are fds

#

and now this one isn't (it's later in the lineage)

echo wasp
#

ai stop making me think i got it

trim pond
#

????????????

#

I LITERALLY GOT THIS YESTERDAY ON MY MAIN SAVEFILE

#

wtf did neal's db reset or what

echo wasp
#

tf???}

trim pond
#

asd can you cheat in U+d0003 and try to increment it?

#

to check if it is or isn't in neal's db

echo wasp
#

ill just use the tool ig

trim pond
#

i made it yesterday so it should be there

#

alive

echo wasp
#

it is incrementing

trim pond
#

are you getting fds

echo wasp
#

no

trim pond
#

stop a bit

#

how much did you increment

#

i will try to continue if i get or not get fds

echo wasp
#

until d0014

trim pond
#

hm.. maybe it is somehow mangling with my main savefile

#

you didn't get d0004 fd right

echo wasp
#

no

lethal nymph
#

check if cache is on

trim pond
#

ok i think something got mangled, but I don't know how because i imported the starter savefile into the same window

#

oh cache.. right

#

forgot about that

#

how do i check if cache is on? but i think it is

#

i don't remember disabling it

lethal nymph
#

which browser are you on

trim pond
#

firefox

lethal nymph
#

devtools -> network tab -> there's a disable cache checkbox somewhere near the top

trim pond
#

yeah cache disabling isn't ticked off, so it was cache from yesterday

chilly fulcrum
#

I mean I’m not sure if it was better

#

it still took hours

#

probably is betyer

#

but it’s like… 3 hours vs 4 hours… although that is a full hour saved still

trim pond
#

took me 2 hours to get U+e0000 from the starter savefile

chilly fulcrum
#

well yes you do know the lineage better than I, loads of the time i spent opening tabs and pictures and fumbling around trying to find stuff

echo wasp
#

now what about unassigned input tool 😈

chilly fulcrum
#

although only from starter? i mean what about all the xx000 tho

trim pond
#

wdym all xx000, it's simple to get it

#

U+d029e

tepid blaze
trim pond
echo wasp
tepid blaze
#

its awfully long to write the formula for it

#

for 3 sheet its already awful to look at, so imagine with 17

kind hound
trim pond
kind hound
#

wow

tepid blaze
kind hound
#

dang

echo wasp
trim pond
#

or exponential

tepid blaze
# echo wasp what's the current formula for pua? I cant check

that for PUA:

=IF(OR(IFERROR(EXACT(INDIRECT("Private Use Area!D" & MATCH(E3, 'Private Use Area'!C:C, 0)),D3), FALSE), IFERROR(EXACT(INDIRECT("Supplementary Private Use Area-A!D" & MATCH(E3, 'Supplementary Private Use Area-A'!C:C, 0)),D3), FALSE), IFERROR(EXACT(INDIRECT("Supplementary Private Use Area-B!D" & MATCH(E3, 'Supplementary Private Use Area-B'!C:C, 0)),D3), FALSE)), IFERROR(SPLIT(MATCH(E3, 'Private Use Area'!C:C, 0) & " 1", " "),IFERROR(SPLIT(MATCH(E3, 'Supplementary Private Use Area-A'!C:C, 0) & " 2", " "),IFERROR(SPLIT(MATCH(E3, 'Supplementary Private Use Area-B'!C:C, 0) & " 3", " "), "NOT FOUND"))), "NOT FOUND")

also technically there also another formula for errors, its a little bit shorter and more readable but still

trim pond
#

also i was thinking that we could make stats for each xx000 in the unassigned sheet

echo wasp
#

maybe make 4 different input tools?

#

=IF(OR(IFERROR(EXACT(INDIRECT("Plane 0!D" & MATCH(E3, 'Plane 0'!C:C, 0)), D3), FALSE), IFERROR(EXACT(INDIRECT("Plane 1!D" & MATCH(E3, 'Plane 1'!C:C, 0)), D3), FALSE), IFERROR(EXACT(INDIRECT("Plane 2!D" & MATCH(E3, 'Plane 2'!C:C, 0)), D3), FALSE), IFERROR(EXACT(INDIRECT("Plane 3!D" & MATCH(E3, 'Plane 3'!C:C, 0)), D3), FALSE)), IFERROR(SPLIT(MATCH(E3, 'Plane 0'!C:C, 0) & " 1", " "), IFERROR(SPLIT(MATCH(E3, 'Plane 1'!C:C, 0) & " 2", " "), IFERROR(SPLIT(MATCH(E3, 'Plane 2'!C:C, 0) & " 3", " "), IFERROR(SPLIT(MATCH(E3, 'Plane 3'!C:C, 0) & " 4", " "), "NOT FOUND"))))), "NOT FOUND")
would this work? idk

trim pond
#

xd why is this 500

echo wasp
#

I think I got it to work

trim pond
#

what are you testing it on?

night dragon
#

ive given up on PUAs

#

too unexpecting

echo wasp
echo wasp
#

it's just fuezt and riation(?)

echo wasp
#

damn it I didnt know ;) also gets eaten

tepid blaze
echo wasp
#

I tested on mobile, it does transfer the recipe

night dragon
echo wasp
#

definitely better than pua (no sarcasm)

night dragon
#

real

echo wasp
#

exxx pua is great tho, but there was only one entry lol

neat haven
#

idk how to get to plane 1 + i cannot scrape

night dragon
#

euufjasdl.l

#

can we invent some more hangul

trim pond
#

fxxx?

echo wasp
#

non hangul ones increment better

#

idk whays going on, when I use the formula for all the sheets, it gives an error

#

but when I split it up it works

night dragon
#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

tepid blaze
#

me i think i got it to work with all sheets, didn't yet test the part where you click on the input button

night dragon
#

😭

#

i cant

echo wasp
#

what are you unable to do

trim pond
#

or do U+5ea saroppo

#

or U+5ea00, should be about the same difficulty

night dragon
#

sarropo

#

oke

#

tsapporo

#

wait 5ea?

echo wasp
night dragon
trim pond
#

05ea

echo wasp
#

thats easy

trim pond
#

oh wait i meant U+05eb

night dragon
#

ah

#

ohhh

#

oh yeah i forgor theres stuf finbetween

neat haven
trim pond
#

U+d08ed

night dragon
#

can someone make a bot that randomly combines puas toegher

trim pond
#

2sb?

night dragon
#

i dont hvae any puas

#

like 20

neat haven
echo wasp
#

riation do u want edit access?

neat haven
#

yeah

echo wasp
#

ok

#

done (unless I somehow entered the wrong email)

neat haven
#

hooray

echo wasp
#

also F476 wasn't fd cuz of this, lol

#

wait lmao I fd'd F354

night dragon
#

true

echo wasp
#

wow i didn't know that À was a pua char

trim pond
#

?

#

whose is that

night dragon
#

a

neat haven
night dragon
#

delicois

echo wasp
#

ok i think im almost done with the IT for unassigned

mental ruin
#

Wait is it done or is not done. Why you still getting FDs. Or this is just old recipes

trim pond
#

wdym still getting fds

#

it's not fds on the main sheet

mental ruin
#

The last lineage posted

trim pond
#

it was the last assigned char

#

now we're doing unassigned

mental ruin
#

So this is just old lineage right?

trim pond
#

no

#

i mean the last hangul was the last assigned, this is unassigned already

mental ruin
#

This butterfly thing is unassigned?

trim pond
#

it is private use area and they are using a font to render it

#

U+d0dcf

mental ruin
#

I have no idea what you saying 😭

#

i mean U+F358

trim pond
#

private use area is unassigned

mental ruin
#

Oh.. this is custom font?

trim pond
#

U+exxx and U+f000 U+f7ff is pua (and fxxxx 10xxxx)

trim pond
mental ruin
#

Ok I get it now thank you

echo wasp
#

it failed a chain 4 times in 2fxxx

neat haven
echo wasp
#

i think i got it

trim pond
#

ok i''ll try

#

hmm i don't have access

echo wasp
#

oops wait

#

ok u should be able to aaccess

neat haven
#

i hate adding manually!!!

echo wasp
#

omg i just realised it is damn slow

#

ok actually maybe not

trim pond
#

yeah that would make sense

#

hmm so what

echo wasp
#

yeah i think splittign it up would be better

trim pond
#

we should call it like IT 1 etc. to make the name shorter if we do that

neat haven
#

contact rubiksmath on discord

echo wasp
#

wait lmao

#

slight issue

trim pond
#

huh what

#

there's some multiplying by two somewhere

#

U+d0e2d

echo wasp
#

are there any xx000 where all of its block starts have been extracted byut not incremented?

trim pond
#

no

#

but you can do ff000

#

or c0000, i extracted the first 4

#

(you should already have all ffxxx block starts)

#

i think those are the best candidates

#

or maybe you have some 3xxxx

#

so what are you going to do?

echo wasp
#

i might even do 1xxxx

trim pond
#

or what exactly are you trying to test

echo wasp
#

ok yeah i'll do either 19xxx or 1axxx

#

wtf it nothing'ed 4 times

regal fulcrum
#

anyone got a link to the message posting the last found unicode

#

im making a quick tweet

#

not putting too much info cause no space and no time, but at least gonna post this

echo wasp
#

#1206592567622373446 message

regal fulcrum
#

ty

echo wasp
#

got all 19xxx block starts (very organised board)

trim pond
#

new lineage standards

echo wasp
#

i'll let it do half today, then otehr half tmr

#

ok well in the meantime, let's do fxxx

#

fxxx pua feels like a easier hangul

#

nice grammar lol

night dragon
#

@echo wasp when you got your last hangul did you make lineage after getting it or post it just as you got it

echo wasp
#

i made lineage

night dragon
#

ah

#

oke

echo wasp
#

neevr seen this emoji before lol

echo wasp
trim pond
#

yeah so d0xxx is done. I hope I dind't doxx anyone in the process

echo wasp
#

nice joke

wooden maple
#

why are you still doing this

#

i thought this was finished

echo wasp
#

only all assigned chars were found

echo wasp
wooden maple
#

ok

#

sure

#

nerds

echo wasp
#

how is that nerdy

trim pond
#

do you have fd on a unicode?

wooden maple
#

no

trim pond
#

:(

#

you can still get fd on unassigned

wooden maple
#

i don't do stuff like this

#

i do ukrainian stuff

trim pond
#

ok

wooden maple
#

i have no idea

#

don't even know any tool to get stuff

#

i mean if you teach me i might as well tune in

#

also what's the thing that likes makes the box a box with a number

#

instead of a empty one

trim pond
#

firefox, and also you need to zoom in a bit

wooden maple
#

oh

trim pond
#

what browser are you using?

wooden maple
#

chrome

#

sigh..

#

only good features for the stupid fox browser

trim pond
#

yeah was using chrome for ic in the past but then eventually it got laggy and had so many issues i switched to firefox

wooden maple
#

i have like a 1000 dollar laptop lol

#

it's overkill for ic

trim pond
#

somehow I can't even make it work with ic helper with 4 elements on chrome anymore

#

ic helper doesn't load

wooden maple
#

look at those god awful specs.

#

i actually have a pretty dark story on getting this laptop

#

and it's kinda funny

#

i got it from my dead grandmas will

#

my grandpa gave a thousand dollars from her will

echo wasp
#

F386 F3A9 F3B4 F3BA

wooden maple
#

i want to do stuff

#

i want to be like you too

#

two

#

i want to be the third nerd

wooden maple
wooden maple
echo wasp
wooden maple
#

ok

echo wasp
#

it;s the private use area sheet btw

wooden maple
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oh

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evil

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how the fuck am i meant to get that

wooden maple
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thank you

echo wasp
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leaving these for riation

wooden maple
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what character is this

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i cannot find out

echo wasp
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f369

wooden maple
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ok

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is any of those like

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on infinibrowser

echo wasp
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barely any are

wooden maple
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dude how am i meant to get those

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can someone. heh. share a kickstart savefile.

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heh. please.

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i don't have like any of those

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any

echo wasp
wooden maple
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can someone give a infinibrowserc lineage for like one of those

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oh wait

echo wasp
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the recipes are in the sheet, but yeah if you've done aboslutely no unicode before, you're gonna struggle, to say the least

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the tools mostly should be in ib

wooden maple
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ok so what should i get for a kickstart

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which character

echo wasp
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not really any that i know of

regal fulcrum
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the big pinned message

neat haven
regal fulcrum
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^^^

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useful links at the bottom

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convert character to it's unicode value

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if you copy the recipe and see multiple numbers, like 0020, it's a space

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0020 is space so ignore those

wooden maple
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i want to try and make something

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can you leave some for me

regal fulcrum
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there's well enough

tepid blaze
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you have ~900k (unassigned) char that still not obtained so

wooden maple
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ok

echo wasp
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well almost 600k of them we still have no way of getting

wooden maple
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ok

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oh my god my mouse sucks so much

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it does not recognise fast clicks or holds AT ALL

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i fucking hate this

neat haven
wooden maple
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i want to get one of these

echo wasp
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riation how is pua incrementing for you

wooden maple
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why are you stealing them . i want to contribute in some way

echo wasp
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would you say it's okay or bad

neat haven
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u+f3xx are something else

echo wasp
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seems comparable to hangul ngl

tepid blaze
neat haven
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how do i insert a line break