Unicode

[abstract marsh]

i think you put wrong recipe... oh well

[sonic heart]

they used U+aa84 lol

[abstract marsh]

i just added u+aa84 though

[sonic heart]

oh wait

wdym they put the wrong recipe?

[abstract marsh]

oh wait nvm, i misread

[abstract marsh]

its cause they're on different codepoint range but has same xx8x
so i thought it was same codepoint range
brain has failed me

[sonic heart]

just cleared my cookies and pannable board still isnt working

[abstract marsh]

did you reinstalled mbs?

[raven ruin]

oh yeah pannable board never works for me

so i dont use it

[abstract marsh]

i see thats sad

( imma assume pannable board from setting alr turned on )

[candid trellis]

do you do
hold ctrl + hold left click the board and then move your mouse?

[candid trellis]

also make sure its turned on yea

[raven ruin]

yes

[sonic heart]

just uninstalled and reinstalled it and still doesnt work

[abstract marsh]

lets do the basic
just ich & mbs script is turned on
reload page
turn on pannable board from mbs setting
try it again

[sonic heart]

i have 2sb turned on as well

other than that i did everything

[abstract marsh]

alright i gave up then
should ask nata about it

[trim pond]

i used scripts from mika and everything worked fine, then I changed ich to nata's fixed version (had to fixed it to import fds). which ones did you use?

[candid trellis]

natagonist

[sonic heart]

my mbs is from here im pretty sure

#speedrunning message

[abstract marsh]

oh well no, there's a newer version which mika updated
check pins on #dev github

[trim pond]

yeah it shoudl be that one. if you want i can send the edited file with exotic chars too

[sonic heart]

i installed it on may 12th and had never installed a newer version since lol

[trim pond]

i can post my here then (with exotics)

cause you need to update all scripts to fix it

[sonic heart]

ah

[sonic heart]

whats the newest ich version number lol

[trim pond]

well 2.1.4. if you want also elements draggable from recipes then you need to use natas version here #dev message and you need to add one exclamation mark as pointed out by rubiks here #dev message. and you need to write the version to be 2.1.4. otherwise ich will send you a message that you need to update

[sonic heart]

👍

[sonic heart]

works now woohoo

[trim pond]

:)

[untold crystal]

is the game not working again or am I the only one that has problems? I didn't have time to play since my last attempt a few days ago (when everything was down). I updated all the mods and now nothing is reacting.

[trim pond]

it should work if you updated everything

hm... is this game getting easier? (i know it was auto fill-in)

[untold crystal]

I closed dBounce and restarted it and now it works... weird

[trim pond]

maybe cache caused it ?

what the heck?

linux transformation?

lol I found cool terms

[chilly fulcrum]

lol what from where

the conversion

[trim pond]

yeah lol

[chilly fulcrum]

Did the converting element make those

ha

[untold crystal]

is prepend hashtag broken now?. it always adds the hashtag in quotes...

[trim pond]

i think it is because of the element i want to make

[untold crystal]

for me too

all elements I combine with prepend hashtag gives me the hashtag in quotes

and prepend period actually prepends

[trim pond]

wait wtf ig something must've changed

also I love this 😍 super cool elements

😂
combined stuff on the left with Double Base64 Encoding

also wtf is Highly Obfuscated but Not Necessarily Secure Data

[untold crystal]

we might have a very big problem on our hands. This was an older recipe.

and now

[trim pond]

what? how can it give something else? shouldn't it first check recipes against past recipes?

[untold crystal]

I have no idea what is happening

[trim pond]

imagine Water + Water = Water or something

[untold crystal]

now it's easier to get the missing 1f7x letters

[trim pond]

ah cool

does that work for the missing ones?

(except n, that still isn't revived alone)

[trim pond]

💀

i don't have remove the tilde though

[untold crystal]

wtf

[trim pond]

what

do the old recipes even work for any of the other lowercase letters in the sheet?

[untold crystal]

I have no idea...

[trim pond]

ahh i was trying to do that well nice

lol now 1 char left ig

can you quickly try checking older recipes?

like how much is broken

[untold crystal]

as far as I see everything works good

[trim pond]

ok

maybe 05ef will be easier now too? (like ai will make it when doing U+05ef or yod-triangle stuff)

[chilly fulcrum]

you didn’t try this?

oh well

[sonic heart]

the AI has 2024 info now lets fucking GOOOOOOOOOO

[chilly fulcrum]

Ok but now recipes are broken

[trim pond]

wait is that what it is?

[chilly fulcrum]

aren’t they

[trim pond]

savio why do you think so

[chilly fulcrum]

I’d agree tbh

[sonic heart]

check the lab

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah

[trim pond]

wow

[sonic heart]

lmfao

[chilly fulcrum]

ha

so how much is broken

[trim pond]

can someone make lineages for U+1f75, U+1f77, U+1f7b from the uppercase letters so that I can link them in sheet?

[chilly fulcrum]

it might let us get delete though

reply only with u+007f remember

that type of thing

Or unicodedata.lookup

[trim pond]

what year was it before that? like February 2024 or older date?

[heady escarp]

oh my god

[trim pond]

weird response. i don't think it would've done anything like that before

[heady escarp]

dude what if we get c0

someone also needs to check previous recipes

to see if they even work

[chilly fulcrum]

Odds are they broke

[trim pond]

uafhioa4hfuoa4HFNOA4HNFGAHUTFGAHRTGAWEROFGAUIWHUFGFGUJJHJHJHjiajfgarfgjhnioarno

arargjhio

aigargjioarj

argj

[vagrant scarab]

@alfo_fish muted

Reason: Rule 2: No Spam. No repeated messages, inappropriate pings, mangled text, link spam, etc.
Duration: 59 minutes and 55 seconds

[sonic heart]

WHASHDYTSJ

NSDFHGFUGVHSEDH

HUH

EXCUSE ME

[heady escarp]

??????????????????????

[sonic heart]

JOIN WITH AN ALT

[chilly fulcrum]

@stoic bobcat unmute Alfo plz

[trim pond]

thanks

[sonic heart]

wha-

[trim pond]

there is probably an easier recipe

[sonic heart]

LOLLLLLL

[trim pond]

i kinda spam combined

maybe this would've worked before. i didn't try this before

[chilly fulcrum]

How did you even get that last one

[trim pond]

by appending them one at a time

[chilly fulcrum]

I got stuck at hi Mr {|

Wouldn’t let me go any firther

well as long as you have a lineage it’s ok

[trim pond]

well lineage should actually be on IB

if there wasn't a missing recipe somewhere

for both elements

[heady escarp]

we need to try to get c0 now

[trim pond]

yep

you can get asd to do anything silly if you do that also

also since updated ai, then 05ef really should be easier now I reckon

smarter

it got a boost

[chilly fulcrum]

I would agree

but it’s also a disaster

blessing and a curse

[heady escarp]

trying to use random shit for c0, no luck yet

[chilly fulcrum]

Character (Stx)

[untold crystal]

stupid question. do the "barriers" still exist?

[chilly fulcrum]

possibly not

[trim pond]

yeah we don't know

[sonic heart]

try to increment 007f

[chilly fulcrum]

but I’d suggest they would still be harder

[chilly fulcrum]

Bad example but if it works that would be cool

[chilly fulcrum]

nice

[sonic heart]

woah

[chilly fulcrum]

try with e0fff

and 3ffff

[trim pond]

incrementing e0fff

with normal tools (next etc.)

[untold crystal]

3ffff

[chilly fulcrum]

lmao

so it’s still dumb

Just less dumb

[trim pond]

but yeah i have to say the recipes will definitely most likely like majority be different for these increments

[tepid blaze]

#1206592567622373446 message ?

[chilly fulcrum]

Try one

try a barrier break

See if it still works

like go to somewhere in sheet

Or any crazy barrier break you did

repeat the recipe

[trim pond]

nothing combines. is that because people are sending lots of requests?

[chilly fulcrum]

possibly

[trim pond]

yeah i can't combine. it just times out

or takes like 5 tries to combine

[chilly fulcrum]

yui is working it very hard rn

wouldn’t be surprised

[trim pond]

yep and i couldn't barrier break (was before we even spaced out the elements though)

i had to barrier break to get 2fbf before also

can someone check decrementing? if that works? to get 05ef

or just in general

[chilly fulcrum]

ok but can you try one that you tried before

Like the same recipe

need to establish how broken it is

[trim pond]

i don't have my savefile with recipes rn

[heady escarp]

same for me bro

[trim pond]

only like last 6k recipes

[chilly fulcrum]

oh

[untold crystal]

I was trying that but I can't combine anything now

[chilly fulcrum]

Well you can go to aheet

Surely

You have the elements right

just not recipe

[trim pond]

it is stupid

[heady escarp]

so true

[chilly fulcrum]

Eg try the tech used to get into the high 3xxxx

Or into 18000

Eyc

[trim pond]

not now now I want to barrier break

unless you provide elements I can copy paste them in and try

[chilly fulcrum]

the sheet has them to copy paste

[trim pond]

wait someone try getting U+18000 with normal tech

[trim pond]

idk where to scroll? like you tell me what you want to try

[chilly fulcrum]

sure

The recipe for 18000

18040

Etc

only a few tho

Don’t test em all that’s not reasonable

[trim pond]

yeah lol

xd

[chilly fulcrum]

obviously a mismatch

[trim pond]

well at least we fond new strategies

[chilly fulcrum]

Just so you know I’m considering “freezing” the sheet until we establish that the ai is behaved

and can’t change its answers whenever it feels like

[abstract marsh]

do it :>

[chilly fulcrum]

but then again like whether it can or can’t honestly won’t matter

ehh idk

[abstract marsh]

or just load it as a version, so you can easily rollback if there's too much error within next few days

[chilly fulcrum]

right of course

although that’s laggy and clunky

Someone download them plz

[trim pond]

ok but i already put in recipes for 1f7x ig keep them unchecked

[chilly fulcrum]

Nah it’s fine

just download them someone (really wish I could right now)

[trim pond]

also only a can get checked, we still need to get recipes for them enquoted and post link to that lineage

[chilly fulcrum]

oh

[abstract marsh]

done

[sonic heart]

fuck its dead

[chilly fulcrum]

Ty

Del f

[trim pond]

i can revive

[sonic heart]

ok good

[trim pond]

and easier recipe

[abstract marsh]

should i send it over?

[trim pond]

btw I get 500, is it possible that U+e1000 and above is banned? (i was getting sometimes for e0fff incrementing as well)

[sonic heart]

omfg

[chilly fulcrum]

lol

try unicodedata lookup

we made it with delete already

[sonic heart]

what

[chilly fulcrum]

What

lmao

[trim pond]

combine it with something like reset unicode block

or reset unicode block into U+0001

[untold crystal]

trying to get 40000

[sonic heart]

wouldnt it reset to 0040?

[chilly fulcrum]

I mean may I try to explain why I’m asking you guys to check old recipes

[trim pond]

well maybe to 0001? if we're lucky

[chilly fulcrum]

think about it if the ai can change its answers then none of what y’all are doing now means much

so I just feel a bit insecure rn

I mean do whatever

anything is progress

but I just am uneasy with the thought that my db is now horribly wrong or even useless

[trim pond]

yeah ik

but i can't do much about it

[chilly fulcrum]

well we can test but sure technically testing won’t affect the end result

[tepid blaze]

tf happened when i was not here

[sonic heart]

AI update

[untold crystal]

I also get 500 with this

[sonic heart]

it has 2024 info

token limit is higher

[trim pond]

yeah i wonder what is happening

[trim pond]

CHAOS

everyone PANIC

[tepid blaze]

i go away for a day and all of that happen

like WHY WHEN I AM DOING SOMETHING ELSE FOR JUST ONE DAY!

[trim pond]

i mean chaos ensued like at most hour ago

[chilly fulcrum]

I’m going away too

In about 5-10 min

Leaving for overnight trip

[sonic heart]

things are still weird with the new AI

[sonic heart]

rip

[chilly fulcrum]

I’m also driving so I won’t be able to keep up or communicate

[tepid blaze]

so now controls char are easy? or not?

[sonic heart]

7f was gotten

[chilly fulcrum]

old recipes broke

[sonic heart]

idfk about the rest

[chilly fulcrum]

that’s the biggest problem

[sonic heart]

did they?

[tepid blaze]

hmmm what?

[chilly fulcrum]

yes

Yeah

Check everything again

if possible

I asked yui but there’s a lot going on

I’m about to leave for my trip

can’t talk so you’re effectively in charge lol

[tepid blaze]

😭

fucking hell

i quit, goodbye infinite craft community

[abstract marsh]

hell : please no

[trim pond]

yeah well i might depending on how things evolve

[abstract marsh]

i can take over if that happens but the recipe checking will be less often

[tepid blaze]

Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE COEN', 'CD60', '52576', '쵠', 'TRUE', '쵞', '쵠', '']
(nothing that important but)

[trim pond]

probably still the ones that asd didn't fix

[abstract marsh]

i had some recipe i didnt fix too few month ago
i'll check it later

[trim pond]

maybe it works now

[tepid blaze]

Previously + U+4ef8 = Previously +

[tepid blaze]

the worse is i have lost the program to do that and it would be so annoying to re make this program

[abstract marsh]

im lazy to do that

[heady escarp]

alt u+2020 recipe †

[heady escarp]

guys, how have you not tried this simple recipe before?

it was definitely always this easy to get rid of the moijbaked a, come on guys

[trim pond]

also it was always revived am I right

[heady escarp]

yes you are

[trim pond]

i mean if all recipes were first checked against neal's database and if it was a new thing then it would make new stuff, everything would be fine

[trim pond]

more proof that those chars are somehow banned.
well technically there is still the possibility that the ai wants to output 000a or smth but..

wait

although

917952 is U+e0000

so maybe proof that it is outputting someone else?

[tepid blaze]

but wait, did someone try to get the annoying char we couldn't get before, now?

[trim pond]

which one?

05ef?

[tepid blaze]

yeah

[trim pond]

why does this give 500?

[tepid blaze]

Hex to Unicode also seems to work way better than before

actually transforming hex to unicode char

[trim pond]

can you give examples?

[tepid blaze]

0x00b2 + Hex To Unicode = ²
0x00e2 + Hex To Unicode = â

small example, does not always work sometime it also just output random explanation on the character or one close to it but

while before it was mostly not working

[trim pond]

i have this from before kinda

[tepid blaze]

bruh
0x05ef + Hex To Unicode = 0x05ef translates to Unicode character 'ׯ' (Hebrew letter Final Nun).

yay

BRO

SERIOUSLY

[trim pond]

ha lol

so pretty much main sheet is "done"

does delete the quotation marks not work?

[tepid blaze]

no

the ai is literaly kidding me

like

[sonic heart]

recipe please

[tepid blaze]

bruh

[trim pond]

remove the quotation mark? or try prepend period and remove the period

[tepid blaze]

this thing is a literal hell

the ai wait to replace it with 05D9 when trying to remove the quotation marks/hashtag

[sonic heart]

delete the seq.?

[tepid blaze]

ohhh

fuck

fuck you ai

[chilly fulcrum]

Don’t have to

[tepid blaze]

this goddamn ai giving me false hope all 2 seconds

Delete The Seq. + Seq. ׯ = Delete The Sequence 0

[tepid blaze]

im gonna share it soon just trying to get it, but if i can't get it easily then i send

here it is:
"ׯ"

[sage wren]

ܪ̇ܗܟ ܬܠܗ ܫܚܓܬܰ ܛܚܨܕ ܝܚܣ!!

[chilly fulcrum]

Also fuezt can you just check like 18000 18040 etc

I want to see barrier breaks and insane tech if it still works

[tepid blaze]

dead check?

[chilly fulcrum]

no

check recipe still works

Don’t need to do too many

I just really need to see

maybe some 3xxxx and Hangul breaks too

Just a good sample

annoyingly the big breaks themselves like 30000 31000 32000 33000 etc aren’t in since they arent the last step

but those too I’d like to test if I can find how

[tepid blaze]

recipe for 18000 work so i would guess yes for all the others

[tepid blaze]

found a really old version but should work

[chilly fulcrum]

sure just check like a fair sample of barrier breaks

from a few areas

Need to make sure it’s not too bad

Odds are that at least some recipes are indeed broken whether it’s the final step or not though

not sure what to do

I think we need yuis help for that

but for now we can test a small amount

[tepid blaze]

probably gonna do that tomorrow too cause i am really tired rn

[chilly fulcrum]

whatever you need

I’d test in game myself but I’m gone

[sonic heart]

YES

[sonic heart]

"ׯ" in reply

[tepid blaze]

gg

clearly i wouldn't have got it by myself

[chilly fulcrum]

delete the exclamation mark nice

Might need a lineage for it but yeah cool

should be fine

May have been used before

I forgor

[sonic heart]

delete the exclamation mark has been used before

delete the e + exclamation mark

[chilly fulcrum]

All good

Just make that clear but yeah we have an archive so you’re free to add it

[echo wasp]

WHAT THE FUCK

[sonic heart]

lmfao

[echo wasp]

omfg

bruh

[sonic heart]

you missed a lot

[echo wasp]

I knew it, it ALWAYS HAPPENS WHEN I SLEEP

BRUH

[sonic heart]

lol

new AI

maybe chatgpt

[echo wasp]

it's good though

yeah

[sonic heart]

no

annoying af to unquote stuff

[echo wasp]

ah i see...

wait so do old recipes now just not work?

[sonic heart]

they prob do

[echo wasp]

it'll probably be another 3 hrs before I play ic

😦

[tepid blaze]

also got 05EF #1206592567622373446 message

[echo wasp]

yeah I saq

saw*

what is recipe for Reply only with u+007f

[echo wasp]

that actually looks chatgpt-like

Echo -e '\x01' In Bash now keeps giving SOH

[chilly fulcrum]

So then how did everyone keep making stuff like current GMT time one week ago then

If unquoting is hard

cause it knows the date

which is concerning since if it continues to know the date were in big trouble

[echo wasp]

it's back to llama :

[chilly fulcrum]

alright wel at least we got that straight

we gotta prepare some announcement or pin or something for when a mod is on

[echo wasp]

I kinda want it back, I didn't get to experience it

[abstract marsh]

its the same llama
just 2.7 & 3.1 difference

[sage wren]

(aka not the same llama)

[echo wasp]

which isn't the same llama

[chilly fulcrum]

Oh it’s back

lol okay

interesting test

I guess that explains why he was on

Although yeah it would be super nice if we could get him up to speed and fix things before he tinkers more with it lol

[chilly fulcrum]

Alright add all the stuff we found if we can

hopefully since nothing seemed to break were good

And we just got a free get out of jail for the last characters

[echo wasp]

wait lol I forgot to do the countdown for a couple of days

[abstract marsh]

time traveller spotted

[chilly fulcrum]

Ok so did we get them all

we got 5ef

and a few Greek

but did we get all the Greek

[night dragon]

been kinda busyreal

i hope for unicode:
update 16.0
finish hangul
finish cjk
then finally finish the last few

[echo wasp]

finish c0

[night dragon]

wait we gotthenm??!?

[echo wasp]

no

[night dragon]

HOLY SHIT WE GOT DELETE

[echo wasp]

i mean, 0001-0008 000e-001f are all obtained, but we need 0001 recipe to get the rest

[night dragon]

😍

[echo wasp]

oh and ofc 0000

[night dragon]

yeah lol

WE GOT THE HEBREW THING ASERLL

OHMY I MISSED SO MUCH

OH MY FISH SAUCE

AJFLKJSAFLALJSKFLKASJFlaksjkf

[echo wasp]

and 1f7x

[night dragon]

AAAAAAAAAAAA

i missed too much

AND NEAL CAME BACK

[abstract marsh]

neal left to buy a milk again

[echo wasp]

also

lmao alfo got muted for spam

literally two people were keyboard mashing from that 9i would have done the same ngl)

uaUAHFUAH7R8HE2QHAP7HOiUSAKGFWFIUaw4FIYRESYTGI7EDS8UHIHik&huisiGFIEWAL.KRFLOWaiefJFWKJJjlajkfjs,hsakfhaskfal.szaofczhyefiugqikuewgawt84ryiai

[sage wren]

yeah but he at least said more than one message so he is spared from Qartholomew for now

[chilly fulcrum]

yep… imagine spamming after finding del smh

banned

[night dragon]

😔

ok

like

what do i say

like

how the fart

how did i miss it :crii:

like

im peachless

*speechless

like

i

did we tell laurasia or we shan't disturb her

[chilly fulcrum]

apparently she knows

[night dragon]

want to eat my toes

real

[chilly fulcrum]

well I’m in a similar boat

[night dragon]

shes been lurking

[chilly fulcrum]

I didn’t miss it but I was totally powerless to do anything

[night dragon]

so for these

[chilly fulcrum]

Cause when I found out about it I was leaving for an overnight trip in 5 min

[night dragon]

we only got them due to the model change?

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah

I mean unless they break now it changed back

[night dragon]

so do we add them or are they nolonger working now

[chilly fulcrum]

we need to check

[rose lava]

what happened

[night dragon]

ill try yod

[night dragon]

chaos

ill try to sum it up:

[chilly fulcrum]

Neal awoke from the dead

[night dragon]

neal comes back
changes engine to llama 3.1
everything sorta breaks
we get all the remaining unicodes
neal changes model back
he gets milk

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah he may be gone for a long time

[night dragon]

he siad he was working on another game atleast

phew

[echo wasp]

they should still work

[night dragon]

hoorah

feels like a dream

[echo wasp]

cuz arent they still cached?

[night dragon]

like

[echo wasp]

also interesting emoji choices for 05ef and 007f

[night dragon]

what are the chances that neal was lurking and saw us struggling so he changed the model to help us

🤷‍♂️ 🤖

[echo wasp]

ive like neevr seen them used as emojis for unicode chars (excluding the 1f000-1ffff range)

1f71 from radu

[night dragon]

U+1D515 anyone?

its dead but still funni

[echo wasp]

1f77 from radu

[echo wasp]

1f7b from radu

[night dragon]

aight lets add em

lmao 🥲

[echo wasp]

"ωή", for 1F75, once again from radu
"ωή" + Delete First = ή (1F75)

[night dragon]

AND WE'RE DONE WITH 15.1 UNICODES

ALSKFLKSAJFLKJFSALKSAJFLKJFSALKJFSALKJAFSLKJASLFKJLKFSJLKASJFLKASJFASFJLKASJFLKSAJF

there is no way neal changing

like

ajsdlkf

aSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA S:LFJKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKkkkkkkkkkfloiewajwioiae

ig now we can update

idk waht to say

[echo wasp]

Two non-existent elements is crazy 💀

actually one

forgot rtl

[sage wren]

exclaimation mark 🤑

[night dragon]

my brain always thinks its spelt that way 😭

feels like a dream

[sage wren]

it's fair

verb is exclaim, but noun is exclamation..

[night dragon]

yeah

[sage wren]

Like how verb is pronounce, but noun is pronunciation

[night dragon]

pronun

[sage wren]

me pronuncing my exclaimations

[night dragon]

@echo wasp can you please try getting from CB80-CBD3?
(im too lazy and braindead to try get CB7F sorri)

prehaps similar to bergoros's lienage here?

[echo wasp]

I lost over 10k elements due to the script updates (including cb40, cb00 and ofc cb7f)

[night dragon]

oh

😔

man

uhh

[echo wasp]

you'll have to get it

[night dragon]

alr ill try

[echo wasp]

I'm gonna store this alfo_fish 7F live reaction somewhere lol

[night dragon]

i had a stroek

[echo wasp]

such a long keybord smash + mixed caps lol

[echo wasp]

rubiks you should record urself pronouncing alfo's keyboard smash

[night dragon]

fgarfgjhnioarno

fgar fg jhnio arno

imagine we all wake up

it was just a dream

[echo wasp]

uafhioa4hfuoa4HFNOA4HNFGAHUTFGAHRTGAWEROFGAUIWHUFGFGUJJHJHJHjiajfgarfgjhnioarno

but damn, alfo now has (I think) 5 ASCII FDs?

wait I forgot I fd'd 0e-17 💀 (excluding 16)

[echo wasp]

"uafhioa4hfuoa4HFNOA4HNFGAHUTFGAHRTGAWEROFGAUIWHUFGFGUJJHJHJHjiajfgarfgjhnioarno"
-Alfo_fish

Quote of the year 💀

[trim pond]

wait what happened overnight? so neal changed the model back?

[echo wasp]

ܕܠcorrect

[trim pond]

so if the recipes stayed/stay, we are lucky bergoros found much easier 007f than what I did

[echo wasp]

bergoros?

[trim pond]

wait savio

[echo wasp]

but yeah, all the recipes stayed

[trim pond]

well a bit sad we didn't find c0s in that time but at least something

[echo wasp]

you can still get elements more than 20 tokens lmao

[trim pond]

really?

[echo wasp]

yeah, unfortunate

[echo wasp]

yeah

[trim pond]

ig time to make some better chains for e0fff

[echo wasp]

e.g. "representatives" + Repeat This Thirty Times

[trim pond]

but stuff above e0fff gave 500 so idk if it is possible

[echo wasp]

should be possible

[trim pond]

yeah but do new recipes give over-token elements?

[echo wasp]

no, old ones do

[trim pond]

ok good so you can't get over-token anymore

[echo wasp]

alfo don't forget to get that c0 entrance

[trim pond]

is 007f not c0 entrance?

[echo wasp]

also... why does gpt ic pick 🤷‍♂️ for so many unicode elements now

[echo wasp]

7f isn't c0

[night dragon]

neal change?

[echo wasp]

I dont think at least?

not entirely sure

[trim pond]

wdym pick?

[echo wasp]

the controls sheet puts del in its own class

[trim pond]

i'd say more like 2 ascii fds ( | and 7f ), until we find c0s but then still those are not really true fds

[echo wasp]

yeah I suppose so

7f -> 00 when

00 also doesn't 500 anymore fsr

[trim pond]

this was giving 500s before now it returns Execute

[echo wasp]

what

[abstract marsh]

yeah the model change kinda skewed up stuff a bit, cool

[echo wasp]

hey, you still found an easier recipe for 007f
see, I knew you were fit for 007f all along

[trim pond]

should we ask awwo to optimise U+007f?

it is pretty much only optimising Unicode 160 and Reply Only With U+007f

[echo wasp]

depth 13 delete, surely

[chilly fulcrum]

Awesome

so it’s all done

apart from 16.0

[night dragon]

so now we update it?

[trim pond]

yeah maybe we could

[chilly fulcrum]

trust I want

I just happen to be on a trip rn

and we definitely checked they all still work even after revert?

[heady escarp]

when the ai was different i tried using Reply Only With U+0001 but it didnt work

i wonder why it worked for 7f but not for 01

[trim pond]

yeah i tried a bunch of reply only with for c0 controls and didn't work

[glad roost]

Wait so we have 7f?

[heady escarp]

yeah we got it during the different ai

but we couldnt get any other c0 in that period

[chilly fulcrum]

rip

[chilly fulcrum]

Just checking

[heady escarp]

we gotta try getting c0 from 007f

is 007f part of c0?

[chilly fulcrum]

It’s kinda just on its own

it’s just a thing

[echo wasp]

CAthing controls don't seem to exist though

[trim pond]

?

[echo wasp]

@

[trim pond]

🐅

[chilly fulcrum]

Bruh

[echo wasp]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

No way alfo face reveal

[echo wasp]

also radu and savio can make you do something stupid

[trim pond]

🐯

[echo wasp]

🐅🐯

[chilly fulcrum]

I don’t recall extending the offer but I mean sure I’m open to hearing

[trim pond]

where ? i don't really remember that i said anything for other stuff

[echo wasp]

for rubiks*

[trim pond]

? can you post link to the message?

[echo wasp]

maybe I rmb wronglyixk

[trim pond]

btw did you know you can play infinitecraft to its full potential if you only have U+007f as the starting element? I think neal should've done that. like how cool is it, that with only DELETE you can make "everything"

[echo wasp]

7f+7f= 2 eyes lol

[trim pond]

#1299426533492129905 message

[glad roost]

So like the AI got rolled back?

[chilly fulcrum]

ye

[trim pond]

wait I have the highest ASCII fd

[glad roost]

Damn I completely slept in that period and failed to make the EmpErroR

[chilly fulcrum]

the what

[trim pond]

the EmpErroR

[chilly fulcrum]

I see

[trim pond]

now let's see if this can block reset

[echo wasp]

lol gl

[trim pond]

doesn't seem to

[echo wasp]

you're not trying hard enough!

[lethal nymph]

no way 100kth again

[echo wasp]

no way 100kth yet again

[echo wasp]

Simpler 05EF
Quoted 05EF in reply
original recipe: #1206592567622373446 message

[candid trellis]

do you have
Reply Only With U+0000
?

[echo wasp]

i do

[candid trellis]

just got it too but via different route

~~Reply Only With U+0000 ~~ deleted image to add more

[glad roost]

' U' wtf

[candid trellis]

Reply Only With U+0000 | Reply Only With U+0001 | Reply Only With U+0002
(and probably the rest

[echo wasp]

nah no

[chilly fulcrum]

How did you make

sounds brutal

Need an append for every single one I bet

At least they aren’t lowercase letter appends

[echo wasp]

yeah, he probably has all of those appends, so maybe wasnt that bad

[candid trellis]

He's prepared for war

[trim pond]

14630 is the amount of times append is in my savefile (case insensitive)

prepend is only 1662

string.append is 5317 times

append( is 7943

[glad roost]

do you have seq.append?

[candid trellis]

does
appendappend
count as one or two?

[trim pond]

string. is 8531

[trim pond]

counts as 2

[trim pond]

seq.append is 118 times

string.append(' is 3829

this regex \"text\"\: \"String\.append\('.*'\)\"\, should find all String.append('any_string') and it found 1723

and I have exactly 336 String.append('{unicode_char}')

remember that I also have their Mr. and also Append() and Mr. Append() variants usually

and double quoted ones on occasions

[night dragon]

yep all worked

[glad roost]

% Found
100.0000%

crazy

[chilly fulcrum]

I’m just gonna say this and cope with that explanation

[chilly fulcrum]

Otherwise I’d have too much skill issue

[chilly fulcrum]

Thank you guys so much

[echo wasp]

huge asterisk

[chilly fulcrum]

Hopefully shouldn’t be bigger than it was before

[echo wasp]

I'm honestly kinda worried that ic ai will be changed back to 3.1 for more testing when I'm asleep, and I'll miss everything again

and ofc c0s get found when I'm asleep

[heady escarp]

its only 7f

none of the other ones

[echo wasp]

I'm not talking about now lmao

[echo wasp]

im saying ofc when this happens when I'm asleep later, c0s will get found

[candid trellis]

Hmmm whats your sleep schedule (asking for a friend)

Oh wait nvm lol I know

[heady escarp]

go to sleep

i will pay you 1 euro and 22 cents

[candid trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

[echo wasp]

what is it (asking for a friend)

[echo wasp]

why did no one try getting 05eb with llama 3.1 😦

was like our only chance to get those unassigneds

ig almost no one gives af about them so

[tepid blaze]

that a my bad i was too focused on getting the 05EF since it was one of those who was really annoying (which i then got in "" but like totally forgot about the unassigned before)

[echo wasp]

honestly I like the emojis llama 3.1 gives

so many 🤷‍♂️ emojis

[heady escarp]

hmm we could try to think of a plan for what we should try to get if the ai ever changes again, in case it also gets quickly reverted

[heady escarp]

could the same strat that was used for 05ef potentially work for unassigned chars?

[heady escarp]

what if we combined convert to hex variants with thousands of codepoints for unassigned chars, if the ai ever changes again

well or at least c0

so we could use hex to unicode, reply only with (codepoint), what else could we try if ai changes again?

[glad roost]

thanK you aIMee

PGCCSALA

[heady escarp]

i mean what could we try for c0 and other chars

[glad roost]

10FFFF

[heady escarp]

?

what

[glad roost]

\u10ffff

[heady escarp]

what

[glad roost]

We can try for \u10ffff

[heady escarp]

well we can try for anything

[heady escarp]

but other than these 2 strats, what strats could we use

[glad roost]

We don't know

We have to try literally everything we could

[tepid blaze]

possibly yes, hex to unicode alone doesn't work very good to get C0s too (since i tried during the time the ai was 3.1)

[echo wasp]

U+10FFFF obv

wait... another 7f entrance??

[glad roost]

Is this happened in 2.7?

[echo wasp]

yes

[glad roost]

Holy hell

[tepid blaze]

maybe someone already tried it during 3.1? (and said nothing)

[raven ruin]

lmao

[twin bay]

Decent Reply Only With U+007f.

Also, we may have rolled back to Llama, but something is definitely different

[raven ruin]

what exactly is different?

QE?!?!!? (<---- this message is a joke)

[twin bay]

The consistency of this U turning to + for one feels weird

Or maybe it always did this

I feel like this would've removed the + with pre-gpt Llama

This too would've removed the +

[tepid blaze]

cool

[tepid blaze]

well it has always been llama, just 2.7 rn, and 3.1 during Neal test

[twin bay]

Oh? Why were people talking about it being gpt tokens then?

As the explanation for going above 20 llama tokens

[echo wasp]

3.1 tokens are similar to gpt tokens iirc

[twin bay]

Oh

I see

[tepid blaze]

because Neal didn't say anything at the time they said that

its not long after that he actually did talk a bit in general

[echo wasp]

yeah, most people just assumed it was gpt

[tepid blaze]

and explained

[twin bay]

And how was 3.1 confirmed?

[tepid blaze]

#general message

[echo wasp]

fuezt is back!

[candid trellis]

Why did you rejoin

[tepid blaze]

because if he is gonna re add 3.1 later on then its okay (i left before he sent the message for 3.1)

[echo wasp]

we need 3.1 back

[abstract marsh]

for a moment i thought fuezt saw the hitman hidden within his location

[echo wasp]

just plz not at 1am my time or sth like that again

and have all c0s discovered overnight

[abstract marsh]

dont worry, they probs will do it again at 3am

[sonic heart]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[echo wasp]

uafhioa4hfuoa4HFNOA4HNFGAHUTFGAHRTGAWEROFGAUIWHUFGFGUJJHJHJHjiajfgarfgjhnioarno

^ does it look familiar?

[sonic heart]

Lol

[echo wasp]

I'll use this if I ever find a c0 entrance lol

Quote of the year by alfo

[sonic heart]

Yes

It does look familiar

[echo wasp]

idk why but something about the cap letters in the middle looks so funny to me

[echo wasp]

also what silly thing you wanted me to do

[twin bay]

Only if he can fine tune the prompt, because it was awful yesterday

[echo wasp]

21 tokens lol

[candid trellis]

Im glad the llama3 tokenizer doesnt have the -1 token for <s>

[echo wasp]

Only thing I liked about it was that we could get those annoying characters

I didnt really experience it so I cannot decide anyways

[candid trellis]

Me neither

[tepid blaze]

on my side i liked it cause it had way more knowledge, especially about other languages and unicode chars

[sonic heart]

I didn't like it too much since it was annoying to unquote or make what i wanted in quotes

[tepid blaze]

string building didn't really change that much tbh, it was just unquoting/removing the hashtag that could be a bit annoying but not impossible

[echo wasp]

did you try remove First Character btw for #05ef

[echo wasp]

hey, tbf it is more logical

"05ef" + Prepend Hashtag = "#05ef" does make sense

[sonic heart]

Ye but it's annoying

[echo wasp]

ngl I am kinda bored of old llama so that would be a nice change for me at least

[echo wasp]

I mean yeah ig

[tepid blaze]

i do not have a lot of remove/without , but i tried a lot of things myself for 05ef but tbh it was really annoying and wanted to turn himself into another char when i tried to remove the #

[echo wasp]

wow you just assumed 05ef's gender?

[tepid blaze]

Yes.

[echo wasp]

how do you know that they weren't a girl

[abstract marsh]

fuezt was there when they were born

[echo wasp]

born??? 😬

who's 05ef's parent

[tepid blaze]

in french its "un caractère" Unicode

so obviously

[echo wasp]

dk what that means soooo

[tepid blaze]

un (♂️) une (♀️)

[heady escarp]

in lithuanian, Charakteris is male

which means every character is male

[tepid blaze]

same in french

[echo wasp]

but see this is an English server

not a French server

[heady escarp]

ar tikrai?

iš kur tu taip ištraukei?

[echo wasp]

@moderaters

[tepid blaze]

la langue anglaise n'existe pas est n'est qu'une hallucination collective

[echo wasp]

shyt

[abstract marsh]

its beyond english
but please talk in unicode
not in specifc codeblock

[tepid blaze]

&²Ԥ㙘ݷ

[heady escarp]

devyniasdešimt keturios dienos.

[abstract marsh]

ヽ(⌒∇⌒)ﾉ

[echo wasp]

你好！obby很笨

[heady escarp]

tu dar durnesis už mane

[echo wasp]

你在撒谎！

[latent lily]

привіт всім, я люблю мед, до побачення

[echo wasp]

uafhioa4hfuoa4HFNOA4HNFGAHUTFGAHRTGAWEROFGAUIWHUFGFGUJJHJHJHjiajfgarfgjhnioarno

uafhioa4hfuoa4HFNOA4HNFGAHUTFGAHRTGAWEROFGAUIWHUFGFGUJJHJHJHjiajfgarfgjhnioarno

AEILRST

T

AEILRTU U

AEINSTU

A

AEINSTU S

AEEGINR R

ADINORT C

AINORST

AINORST F

AINORTU F

AADEINR

AADEIRT

AADEIRT

AADEIRT

AAEILNT

AAEINST

AAEINST

AAEIRST

AAEIRST

AAEIRST

ADEIINR

ADEIINT

AEIILNR

AEIINRS

AEIINST

AEIIRST

6

AEIIRST

✓ ADEILOS

B ADEILOS

9 ADEILOU

O AEEEIRT

1 ADELNOR

2 ADELNOT

3 ADELORT

4 ADELORT

5 ADENORU

6 ADENOST

7 ADENOST

8 ADENOST

9 ADEORST

0 ADEORST!

1 ADEORST

2 ADEORST

3 ADEORTU

4 ADEORTU

5 ADEORTU

06 AELNORS

7 AELNORS

8 AELNORS

9 AELNORU

0 AELNOST

waitshit

patdez weong tignh

uafhioa4hfuoa4HFNOA4HNFGAHUTFGAHRTGAWEROFGAUIWHUFGFGUJJHJHJHjiajfgarfgjhnioarno

€

€

[heady escarp]

†††>½

[heady escarp]

and i did also find this with different ai

[echo wasp]

�
      

                  ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 : ; < = > ? @ A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z [ \ ] ^ _ ` a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z { | } ~ 

[glad roost]

for future reference: the "Alfo Quote Image Thing"

Ok i just made this

[echo wasp]

hell yeah

quote of the century 💀

[echo wasp]

ye?

[low talon]

Send this again when you reach 69,420

[echo wasp]

I would've already passed 200k if it wasn't for the wipeout 😡

[abstract marsh]

i still swimming around 20k~25k element

[heady escarp]

swimmytimee

🐟

[echo wasp]

💀

[sonic heart]

i wonder who has the most elements ever (without ever using a bot or 2sb)

[echo wasp]

🏊‍♂️⏳️

[raven ruin]

me still at like 4k:

[abstract marsh]

*and

[echo wasp]

radu or alfo

[low talon]

Jenpais savefile collapsed because it couldn't save anymore elements i think

[echo wasp]

both over 200k

[echo wasp]

we need more fire emotes

[abstract marsh]

thats 10times the amount of element i had

[echo wasp]

I think radu is still #1 tho

[sonic heart]

i think im gonna end up at like 110k when i stop actively playing the gane

[echo wasp]

wai

[abstract marsh]

will i even gonna reach 30k with my laziness

[echo wasp]

Bump. Spread the fire.

[abstract marsh]

goodluck

[echo wasp]

93 days remaining.

[trim pond]

i tried to get it for a bit also but couldn't get it

[trim pond]

❤️

[night dragon]

😉

[sonic heart]

Hangul, CJK, and 16.0 chars:

[candid trellis]

unicode 17.0:

[tepid blaze]

Unobtainable Chars:

[sonic heart]

Is there gonna be a unicode 16.1

[glad roost]

Unicode 18.0 AfterBirth+:

[regal fulcrum]

holy shit im so excited

[wooden maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194093736897032304/1286866067767037952/homer_tuah.gif

homer tuah will be a unicode character in 2032.

[sonic heart]

Wtf

[wooden maple]

trust me he will be

hawk tuah will be a unicode character in 2028.

[sonic heart]

Hawk tuah is gonna be irrelevant in like 2026

[heady escarp]

what does hawk tuah mean

[sonic heart]

See

It's already phasing out of relevancy

[tepid blaze]

i am doing test in private to try to update (just the csv files on my pc for the moment but) to 16.0

[heady escarp]

i never knew what it means

[glad roost]

Trust me

Brent is in unicode 69.0

[candid trellis]

2024*

[heady escarp]

fuezt u should react with trusteduser

[tepid blaze]

i may be onto smth

[deep gyro]

you should trust him, he is one of the trustedusers

[trim pond]

do you have a link to all codepoints added in 16.0? i could already start making the lineages and elements (and saving console log to then use for input tool)

or like all ranges

[tepid blaze]

first i need to verify if i actually did it (and that there is no error in my csv files)

hmm forgot to exclude control chars

[trim pond]

huh? are there new control chars in 16.0?

[tepid blaze]

no, but i do not directly do it this way

i do not go like "new char of 16.0" lets say i "update" my test csv files with all chars that are not found in them

[wooden maple]

to spit on that thang

[tepid blaze]

i am somehow close to it but there always more problems that appear when i fix one problem

[trim pond]

U-16.0
U+0897
Next Codepoint + ࢖ = ࢗ

U-16.0
U+1b4e
Next Codepoint + ᭌ = ᭍ Infinite Craft Helper Nata Fixed.user.js:1026:18
Next Codepoint + ᭍ = ᭎

[tepid blaze]

i think i am loosing my sanity

[trim pond]

U-16.0
U+1b4f
Next Codepoint + ᭎ = ᭏

U-16.0
U+1b7f
᭾ + Next Codepoint = ᭿

[tepid blaze]

little pause on trying to make my program work as expected

[trim pond]

why did "ᲈ" not revive "Ꙋ" ? "ᲈ".toUppercase() = "Ꙋ"

or is that because "Ꙋ".toLowercase() = "ꙋ"

does that mean you can't revive quoted "ᲈ"?

i am stupid i revived the letters in quotes, but U+1c89 was already on IB 🤦‍♂️

[chilly fulcrum]

What’s up

[trim pond]

U-16.0
U+1c89, U+1c8a -> on IB

hm.. this doesn't make sense. i will only post recipes that aren't on IB. i didn't realise they were there.

[tepid blaze]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

What’s the issue

sorry I wasn’t clear

[tepid blaze]

just a issue with filtering char i want or not in specific sheet, example i do not especially want CJK in Hangul or Unicode characters sheet

some still go into it for some reason

[trim pond]

U-16.0
U+a7db
Next Codepoint + Ꟛ = ꟛ

also quite sad that I didn't try to get U+14000 when the ai was buffed. i kinda thought about it, but then I had to go to sleep so I didn't try it in the end

[chilly fulcrum]

May I see the code?

like are you working with csv or with apps script

or excel module

[tepid blaze]

csv

[chilly fulcrum]

Okay

well sure I can help but only if I can see code

[tepid blaze]

well i still have some things i wanna try first to see if i can fix, but if i can't i will send it

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm

trying to remember how I did it

I just looped from 32 to 1114112

and for every single one I checked the character properties

and then by range I split it up

also may I request that yijing hexagram be moved to main in this update at all

I’ll be back later today to work on it

But quite late probably

[tepid blaze]

ok

[chilly fulcrum]

looking up Unicode 16 produces so many utf-16 results it’s annoying

[trim pond]

maye try looking up Unicode 16.0 ?

[chilly fulcrum]

true

[tepid blaze]

i think i may have got something kind of working...? 🤔 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gEj9ogHzrUNoRwmujp2MnVO7Da_U_89bqcFZCTtKt9c/edit?usp=sharing (just a basic test but ig it kind of work even if its probably missing things and all and obviously a bit ugly)

[chilly fulcrum]

First step is to run counts of how many items are in each sheet like the stats table

then compare it to the official count

[tepid blaze]

yeah, but at least i see some of the blocks its supposed to have and where its supposed to be, so that a good start

also its just "Unicode Characters" sheet rn

also probably a "problem" with TRUE and FALSE

[chilly fulcrum]

Okay

I mean they can get converted to checkboxes

Sheets can do that

[tepid blaze]

yeah

i just say it in case, since its a test sheet and i re import i don't especially wanna re turn to checkbox all 2 seconds

[echo wasp]

27 fires now?? lol

[trim pond]

U-16.0
U+105c0 - U+105f3

U-16.0
U+10d40 - U+10d8f

U-16.0
U+116d0 - U+116e3

U-16.0
U+11380 - U+113e2

ok i don't think i'll be doing U+11f5a, cause Radu incremented from like U+11dxx or idk so i will leave it to him or someone else

(11f5a isn't in ib either)

fuetz can you dead check e1000, f0000, 100000, 10ffff, fffff and 40000?

[tepid blaze]

will work more on it tommorow, got it working as expected already afaik, or at least for the Unicode Character sheet

[sonic heart]

Lol

[trim pond]

U-16.0
U+11bc0 - U+11bf9
U+11bc0 here #1206592567622373446 message

my current progress, the checkmark is for either on discord or on IB

[tepid blaze]

so my program work, yay!

since there is 5183 in main sheet, and 2 in CJK

[night dragon]

we've already gotten most of hieroglyphs iirc

most shoudl be on browser

https://infinibrowser.wiki/item/𓑠

[chilly fulcrum]

What is this searching for

[tepid blaze]

just a note i left for thing added by my program

[chilly fulcrum]

oh

ok

[night dragon]

start of hieroglyphs extended-a (U+13460-7F) (andU+13456-F ig)

[chilly fulcrum]

Also fuezt you’re fine to do all this in additional sub sheets to the current one

and then transfer it over to be the real one once we’ve set it up

that’s just so that apps script can transfer data

[tepid blaze]

ok will do it tommorow

[chilly fulcrum]

Don’t need to it’s just an option

You have my permission

it’s equally fine to update it on your end and then just import the sheets directly (cause that’s a thing you can do)

[glad roost]

You should bring your alt

[echo wasp]

sometime soon

[trim pond]

U-16.0
U+16100 - U+16139

[trim pond]

U+16bc0

[wooden maple]

show this channel to a victorian child

[trim pond]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

💀

i lived in victoria for 7-8 years of my life 😭

(ik its not what he mean)

[trim pond]

xd

[heady escarp]

guys someone show the unicode spreadsheet to rubiksmath, a victorian child

he will not understand anything in the spreadsheet

[chilly fulcrum]

was not born there for your information

[heady escarp]

still counts

i wonder if this guy named rubiksmath ever even seen the spreadsheet

[chilly fulcrum]

mods can we ban this guy

[heady escarp]

not if i ban myself myself

[chilly fulcrum]

admins can we mod this guy so he can ban himself?

[trim pond]

👆