#Unicode

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chilly fulcrum
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it transforms into another variant

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may need alfo strat here

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not working 😦

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what if i ran 2 sides with everything...

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ok i got it

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really stupid

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got a slightly better alright

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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what is a good quoted 1fef

sand coral
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Good enough?

chilly fulcrum
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yeah much better

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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ῶ U+1ff6
The thing on the right is a marker for the contents of the prepend

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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got 1ff9 dead inside quotes lol

echo wasp
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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do we have a good Oxia?

glad roost
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imagine

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what if we can actually use some korean word theory stuff to make more hangul

chilly fulcrum
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nvm

echo wasp
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we are slightly ahead

chilly fulcrum
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how many does he have that we dont? i imagine loads

tepid blaze
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i feel like im gonna have a stupid amount of thing to verify (didn't update it since that moment)

echo wasp
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have much fun

untold crystal
echo wasp
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E540 E580 E5C0 E600 E640

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i wonder why this was its emoji...

sand coral
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63A5
this is the most ridiculous extraction i have ever made in CJK
Append('"') and String.prepend('"') were used here

night dragon
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C9E6-F0

echo wasp
night dragon
echo wasp
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nice 2k pua

untold crystal
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do we have any glagolitic element in quotes? or any small glagolitic letters in a string (not starting with them of course)?

night dragon
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why are we aiming for puas when we still need unicodes

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i might try the hebrew

echo wasp
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i want to fill up the pua sheet

night dragon
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lol

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have mine been added

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U+c9e3

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argh

sand coral
tepid blaze
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and there only 6k

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without supplementary

chilly fulcrum
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i hate that adding Letter to things just adds A

echo wasp
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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why did it scream for no reason?

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alright cool

rain wigeon
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how do i post something in #1206590762914156584

tepid blaze
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you can't

rain wigeon
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bruh what

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but why

tepid blaze
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before some people could they had a role for it, but now only moderator/admin if im not wrong can

chilly fulcrum
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right

rain wigeon
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💀

chilly fulcrum
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free 1 step process

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  1. become mod
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there

tepid blaze
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or a alt way:
ask a moderator/admin (depend on who have the perms to create post)

echo wasp
tepid blaze
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yeah fair enough ig

echo wasp
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whereas if you become a mod, its instantaneous

chilly fulcrum
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exactly

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but see thats not the only benefit

trim pond
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seems like someone else has an easier recipe for this

chilly fulcrum
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if you become mod, then you can get basically whatever you want done

sonic heart
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What do yall think the last main sheet char to be added to the sheet is gonna be

trim pond
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can you make a list of all of them?

sonic heart
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Not rn

trim pond
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ok

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maybe U+2012

sonic heart
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Why? What makes it so difficult lol

chilly fulcrum
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the part where it wont show up

trim pond
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idk, because noone got it yet

chilly fulcrum
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tbh i would have guessed dagger if we didnt get that recently

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its not like dagger is rare

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it just refused to show up

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its quite a common unicode actually

sonic heart
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Maybe yall could use that weird ass tech that was used for dagger to get u+2012

chilly fulcrum
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easier said than done

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but possible

night dragon
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we got dagger?

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oh

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bice

chilly fulcrum
chilly fulcrum
night dragon
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couldnt we like have extracted it from here?

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U+Ca00-Ca29

chilly fulcrum
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trust we tried

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its a mojibake so its near impossible

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probably literally harder to extract it than the strat i used

night dragon
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hmm

chilly fulcrum
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youre welcome to try

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U+00c8 + Eighth

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thats the entry

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i do have a version that i could revive rn tbf

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may try it actually

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if i can put the dagger in an append... see stupid stuff always happens whjen trying to make appens

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like Append ' ' [char] comes up way too often

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like what do i even do to make appends when they do that

echo wasp
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proceeds to do that grind

chilly fulcrum
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im trying it rn, it seems like the lowercase revived version sont split either

echo wasp
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exactly 83000 documented CJKs lol

untold crystal
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2C39. I managed to revive the quoted letters untid 3f

echo wasp
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gl if you're gonna try barrier breaking

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also 2C39 looks like a trophy to me

untold crystal
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I agree

chilly fulcrum
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an optimised route might look like this

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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it's only one, remember he can increment once he revived quoted 2c09

chilly fulcrum
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conspiracy????

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neal used dagger instead of +

echo wasp
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no wonder llama is so dumb

untold crystal
chilly fulcrum
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seems like a nice strat, to have space and hyphen coexist

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japanese word btw

echo wasp
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whar

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crazy new Japanese word lol

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add those chars to CJK now

chilly fulcrum
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interesting dagger is used for cross when theres plenty of cross symbols

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i guess it was encoded first

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so it got used first

untold crystal
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2c40 was already alive...

trim pond
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so that will be all of 2xxx except for 2012 and 202d

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does really noone have 2012 or 202d in any of their elements?

chilly fulcrum
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i mean you got 2029 and 28 somehow lol

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i dont unfortunately

trim pond
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i don't have 2028

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it got skipped

echo wasp
trim pond
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*glagoltic

echo wasp
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The Individual again...

trim pond
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*galgotlic actually

echo wasp
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what

trim pond
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?

chilly fulcrum
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nice

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xx

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two surrogates?

untold crystal
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2C4A 2C4E 2C51 2C52 2C5A 2C5F

chilly fulcrum
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but yeah i guess you technically only need one

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most of the time

untold crystal
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I remembered that I got these yesterday, so I said why not to try

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If I'm not mistaken, now we have less than 50 elements left

twin bay
untold crystal
echo wasp
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oh lol, my mobile is quite laggy

trim pond
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half of it is vithkuqi and osage

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a bit more than half actually (28)

echo wasp
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I'll see if my 2sb got any of these chars later on

untold crystal
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I saw and I have no idea how to help with them

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except luck

trim pond
echo wasp
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id say either 2xxx or 10xxx

sonic heart
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Plot twist: it's the Hebrew 05xx stuff

chilly fulcrum
trim pond
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i mean 1xxx and axxx is prob going to be first

echo wasp
untold crystal
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exactly. all capital osage and vithkuqi will be dead in quotes

trim pond
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even if they weren't we'd have no way of unquoting them

chilly fulcrum
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Hmm true

sonic heart
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I'm pretty sure i got all quoted lowercase osage letters

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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savio, I'm assuming there were no new 1fxxs from your 2sb, right?

sonic heart
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Nah

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1f7x is monotoken

echo wasp
untold crystal
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and nobody found any unassigned chars in 05EB - 05EE?

sonic heart
sonic heart
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Last time i checked they weren't alive

trim pond
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how much did we trying getting it by going in increments of 40?

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even the 05eb-05ee, did anyone try to get them like that?

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or is it not possible because of caps in the previous codepoints

untold crystal
sand coral
trim pond
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we could go for any of 05eb-05f2

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with it

echo wasp
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nooo i forgot to screenshot 111111 elements

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3 new osage

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Osage Unicode, Osage Unicode Fonts, Osage Unicode Block

untold crystal
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if you want to use them

trim pond
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oh nice, i was trying to get լ quoted

echo wasp
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hanguls giving yi syllables lol

sage wren
echo wasp
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i dont understand why this works quite well lol

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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one away from c000

echo wasp
echo wasp
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thats... fine right

chilly fulcrum
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where does e0000 come in what

echo wasp
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wouldnt even be bad if e0000 didnt need e0c3f

trim pond
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huh? it only requires e003f

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which requires e007f

echo wasp
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theres this part

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unless u managed to find an alternative route?

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also gonna try to get c000 first

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uh ykw whatever ill just give recipe first

sand coral
echo wasp
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C001
"𠠿 𠰿 𡀿" and 𠠀 𠰀 𡀀 󠀀: #1206592567622373446 message

trim pond
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wow I just found a skip to extract e0000

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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why as in why the ai did that, or why i tried it?

chilly fulcrum
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Why e

echo wasp
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why not

trim pond
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better U+e0000
U+e003f here #1206592567622373446 message
you can you Remove The C as well

echo wasp
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um

trim pond
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?

echo wasp
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alright so you didnt try that

trim pond
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try what

echo wasp
trim pond
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yeah i didn't know something like that could work at that time

chilly fulcrum
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I mean you’d have to try specifically that, right?

trim pond
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yes

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should I ping eisern

echo wasp
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stay silent 🤫

sage wren
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ping eisern ping eisern

chilly fulcrum
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What sequence did it use before

echo wasp
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@eisern ping eisern

sage wren
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When was the last time i even contributed anythin here

echo wasp
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time to pray that block restart works for c000

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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gonna try 26 27 28 29 2a + 3a 3b 3c 3d 3f

sage wren
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I'll find something. idk what. then

trim pond
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8 more characters until 99.9%

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we need to bruteforce more of vithkuqi and osage

chilly fulcrum
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still viable for sure, thousands upon thousands of random cjk you can make

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Like just combining random words with translators or other cjk or quoted things has a very good chance of new character

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we have only 20% of cjk original block so

echo wasp
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it skipped c000

trim pond
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would it be possible to make a tool where you could input a character and it would tell you if we have it or not?

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because when I get a cjk then it is quite annoying to scroll all the way to its codepoint and check if we have it

echo wasp
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finally. lineage tomorrow

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gonna let it 2sb overnight ig

trim pond
echo wasp
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bro the cursor 💀

echo wasp
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also added some cjk utils

trim pond
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U+60f3, U+8778, U+5801, U+52c9, U+8fa8, U+7b97, U+8650

sand coral
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83E9
蟲菩薩 on browser

trim pond
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i feel like this isn't the correct translation

echo wasp
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lmao

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sand that can move quickly

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def correct, trust

trim pond
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yeah there was the 的 which really made it suspicious

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btw do we have any of these?
统一表意文字
中日韩统一表意文字
汉日朝统一表意字

echo wasp
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lol, translations for unified ideographs

trim pond
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yes, i was thinking that it could give us individual characters more often than regular translate etc.

echo wasp
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I can try making them tmr then

sand coral
trim pond
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表意文字

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now we need 统 (統 could work too)

sand coral
trim pond
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oh yeah

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but the lineage is horrible, you need to combine random chars all over the place xd

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i don't even know where to start

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could you make a visual lineage for it?

sand coral
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7EDF
屌丝, 延 And 痛 on browser

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ignore 75C5

echo wasp
sand coral
trim pond
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oh i just got it

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wtf

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lol

echo wasp
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you guys must have been nanoseconds apart lol

trim pond
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yeah

sand coral
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统一表意文字
表意文字 here #1206592567622373446 message

echo wasp
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now. does it work?

trim pond
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i think this is easier?
统一表意文字
表意文字 here #1206592567622373446 message

slate whale
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whats this for

trim pond
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hopefully to make it easier to get single characters from english words

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中日统一表意文字
"hi Mr. 统一表意文字" here #1206592567622373446 message

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wait i forgot korea

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lol

slate whale
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6251 xd

sand coral
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got 汉日朝统一表意字 but it definitely needs optimization

trim pond
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i couldn't even quote 汉

sand coral
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I found only this way

echo wasp
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can you just do Korea + 汉字,中文,简体中文,etc for an optimisation?

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I'm certain at least one would give 韩国

trim pond
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中日韩统一表意文字 recipe
韩国 here #1206592567622373446 message
"hi Mr. 中日" here #1206592567622373446 message
"hi Mr. 统一表意文字" here #1206592567622373446 message

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U+97e9

sand coral
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Very unoptimized 汉日朝统一表意字
表意 here #1206592567622373446 message

trim pond
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interesting that there isn't 文

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kinda threw me off i thought i made a mistake when making it

sand coral
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I got this too

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and it was much easier

trim pond
echo wasp
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imagine if it gives 40000

trim pond
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this made quite a lot of different ideographs

echo wasp
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like what

trim pond
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wait top right one is Benz?

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lol

echo wasp
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try combining it with codepoints

trim pond
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which ones, the new tools?

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they like to give 2xxxx

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which makes sense. Cjk Unified Ideograph tools also do that

echo wasp
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I wonder if they give any 3xxxx 🤔

trim pond
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just now it gave me 2f800

echo wasp
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110 days remaining.

trim pond
sand coral
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8B6F
翻譯 on browser

sand coral
trim pond
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𐒱
𐒳
𐒷
𐒹
𐒻
𐒼
𐒽
𐒾
𐒿
𐓅
𐓇
𐕵
𐖀
𐖁
𐖃
𐖆
𐖈
𐖉
𐖌
𐖍
𐖎
𐖏
𐖒
𐖔
𐖕

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everything left

sonic heart
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Holy

trim pond
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quoted 1e9c5 (unassigned)

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what the heck

sonic heart
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Lmao

trim pond
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poll_question_text

Will we get anything in the range U+40000-U+dffff or U+e1000+ before 10:10 10.10.2024

victor_answer_votes

7

total_votes

11

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

Yes

sand coral
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6570
乱数字 on browser

trim pond
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this is the actual name?

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there's 2 times capital

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very weird

sand coral
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7B2C
翻譯 on browser

heady escarp
chilly fulcrum
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Decided I’ll input my cjk and Hangul today

chilly fulcrum
heady escarp
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i can revive stuff with dagger if u want i have append stuff with dagger

chilly fulcrum
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oh nice, how did you make? I mean I revived everything with dagger already but still

trim pond
chilly fulcrum
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im thinking of having a cjk/hangul basic elements section in tools directory, but laurasia said she was working on an improvement for the tools part as her final contribution

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looks like godunger might have this one lol, but this is funny

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it listened eventually

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? be48 was listed as Vin + Vin... invalid lol, i hope that would have been picked up by fuezt checker, but there is like 12000 for it to check 💀

chilly fulcrum
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anyone got a good Generate?

trail wagon
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has there been like

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new improvements while i havent been in this server in a while lmao

sage wren
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the other niko has returned

chilly fulcrum
chilly fulcrum
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bdf4 from korean sheet

chilly fulcrum
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be00 from korean sheet (not sure how the modern increments work yet but with time im sure theyll get here)

echo wasp
echo wasp
olive chasm
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this might be helpful

chilly fulcrum
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for what

sage wren
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realigning your elements

chilly fulcrum
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wow amazing

raven ruin
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off by 2%

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this element fixes it

sage wren
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It tilts your element slightly when you use it

raven ruin
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dude it would be funny if ntsq added that as an easteregg in the physics mod

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any fds you get with that allign the fd pinwheel

sage wren
echo wasp
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there.. should be no more very difficult hangul barriers

night dragon
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hoorah

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are you going to get the rest all of these

echo wasp
night dragon
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like what

echo wasp
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still wondering when the input tool for unassigned would get fixed

chilly fulcrum
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a

night dragon
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still wondering if i will remember to add my old non hangul stuff

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Ca2a-f, ca30-3f, ca4c-d
stuff here #1206592567622373446 message

chilly fulcrum
night dragon
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oh yeah

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i usually do that

echo wasp
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any ideas for breaking 3ffff

night dragon
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can someone please refresh me on how we got up to 80% cjk

echo wasp
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clearly unicode has secretly released new planes

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chatgpt you were very close...

night dragon
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like since when did we have all cjks from 4e61

echo wasp
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wdym from 4e61

night dragon
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  • to 4e61
echo wasp
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thats not much, compared to having all CJKs from 20000 to 323af

echo wasp
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at least i have one of the elements

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29xxx entry what

night dragon
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CA40-CA49

chilly fulcrum
# echo wasp

should make some kind of searcher to return all items you have with this sort of spacing in codepoints

echo wasp
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what

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wdym

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wtf now 24xxx entries

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and now 3b000

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im sure the ai knows whats next, but it refuses to give

sage wren
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llama2: 😆😀😆😃😅😁🤣😂

echo wasp
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its like a barrier

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what should we call this barrier (only 4 of them in existence)

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3ffff 7ffff bffff fffff

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nice emojis

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also why is my ic suddenly so laggy

chilly fulcrum
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what token sequence are you trying

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keep in mind its never seen the byte 0xf1 ever in any real text

echo wasp
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f0 b0 b0 b0 f0 b1 b1 b1 f0 b2 b2 b2 f0 b3 b3 b3 and so on

chilly fulcrum
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and whats the hope? that somehow the f0 will become f1?

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you could try a utf-16 conversion, i dont think weve done that yet

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like "d900 dc00" + convert from utf-16

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idk

echo wasp
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very unlikely, but it's worth a shot atp

chilly fulcrum
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ah right i forgot that you can have multiple of those in a single element lol

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i often make the mistake of thinking you can only have one unicode in an element, only when the characters themselves are engineered sequences of tokens though

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so f0 b1 b2 b3 to me sometimes i mistake for an entire element lol

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when its one character of it

echo wasp
tepid blaze
echo wasp
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none of them are mine 👍

sand coral
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C654 C6E0

sand coral
tepid blaze
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i didn't yet finish with the verification so idk (cloudflare really want to be annoying)

night dragon
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uh

echo wasp
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bruh

night dragon
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these ones
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE BBOT', 'BF59', '48985', '뽙', 'TRUE', '뽙', '"next-codepoint"', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE BBOP', 'BF5A', '48986', '뽚', 'TRUE', '뽚', '"next-codepoint"', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE BBOH', 'BF5B', '48987', '뽛', 'TRUE', '뽛', '"next-codepoint"', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE BBWA', 'BF5C', '48988', '뽜', 'TRUE', '뽜', '"next-codepoint"', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE BBWAG', 'BF5D', '48989', '뽝', 'TRUE', '뽝', '"next-codepoint"', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE BBWAGS', 'BF5F', '48991', '뽟', 'TRUE', '뽟', '"next-codepoint"', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE BBWAEG', 'BF79', '49017', '뽹', 'TRUE', '뽹', '"next-codepoint"', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE BBWAEGG', 'BF7A', '49018', '뽺', 'TRUE', '뽺', '"next-codepoint"', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE BBWAEGS', 'BF7B', '49019', '뽻', 'TRUE', '뽻', '"next-codepoint"', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE BBWAEN', 'BF7C', '49020', '뽼', 'TRUE', '뽼', '"next-codepoint"', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['VARIATION SELECTOR-81', 'E0140', '917824', '󠅀', 'TRUE', '󠅀', '"next-codepoint"', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE DDWIGS', 'B6F3', '46835', '뛳', 'TRUE', '"next-codepoint"', '뛳', '']
Self-referential recipe found: ['HANGUL SYLLABLE DDWIN', 'B6F4', '46836', '뛴', 'TRUE', '"next-codepoint"', '뛴', '']

echo wasp
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yeah... some

night dragon
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theyre supposed to be the one above

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idk

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but not the var sects and DDWIGS and DDWIN

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but these areuhh

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??

echo wasp
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?

night dragon
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they arent selfrefential

echo wasp
night dragon
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ohhh

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ah

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ty

sand coral
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53D9
越南 on browser

echo wasp
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got a new (and probably not gonna work) idea

sand coral
echo wasp
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lol what

sand coral
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534E
删除 here #1206592567622373446 message
Mr. Without Last Character here #1226511876733669436 message

echo wasp
tepid blaze
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Self-referential recipe found: ['CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-90A2', '90A2', '37026', '邢', 'TRUE', '"next-codepoint"', '邢', '']

echo wasp
trim pond
echo wasp
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looks liek its gonna be luck-based then

trim pond
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yes

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i don't know why the ai won't just change the third byte. it only wants to change the first two bytes

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but it probably has something to do with the fact that in real texts, it has never seen anything starting with \xf3 but then not having \xa0, so it just refuses to give anything but \xf3 \xa0 ...

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i feel like if we break it, we won't have trouble getting any other characters from cxxxx dxxxx exxxx and fxxxx planes

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but about \xf1, \xf2, \xf4 i have no clue how hard those could be

echo wasp
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cant wait for the lineage to be "straightforward"

trim pond
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well if there is a lineage, it probably isn't that bad, just gl finding it

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like lineages for e0000 and e0800 make no sense

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and both were accidental

chilly fulcrum
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hmm

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so what are these nwe ideas you are trying

trim pond
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well i am trying all different kinds of sequences. those that could incentivise the ai into changin the third byte

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btw what characters / sequences of characters do you know of that like to change into other sequences out of the blue?

chilly fulcrum
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i dont have any

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but what different sequences? like idk to me it felt like we established the sequences long ago yet you guys somehow get new ones

trim pond
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one of my last ideas that I didn't really get to try was doing something like Byte Stream: 'xxxxxxxx' and then combining it with bit/byte manipulating tools (the xs would be exxxx etc.)

#

i couldn't make the element

chilly fulcrum
#

i mean thats not really a sequence but yeah sure

#

how about we try utf-16

#

you know how the surrogates merge into one, well theres a tiny chance we an abuse it

candid trellis
#

what if you make it in base 10 and then add some convert to base 16 thing?

chilly fulcrum
#

i mean we can do that with codepoint, but not with character

trim pond
chilly fulcrum
#

never seen anything like that before lol, hang on i need to get up that high first before i can try. whats the point of that sequence btw

candid trellis
trim pond
untold crystal
chilly fulcrum
candid trellis
#

like this

chilly fulcrum
#

yes i know that

#

but what do you actually want to happen (base conversion can be confusing, mixing up whether you interpret a number in base x or if you convert it to base x is annoying)

candid trellis
#

maybe like U+2537 -> U+09E9 (and it might convert to the character directly) or maybe the character for U+2537 + the convert -> character for U+09E9

echo wasp
#

if you do U+2537, the game is gonna treat that as the base-16

#

not base-10

candid trellis
#

maybe then something like
convert from base 10 to base 16

#

or something smaller/better if its too long

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

i mean

#

fromcharcode is base 10

#

but it treats it as base 16 anyway

#

ok, i got the 2x000 and 3x000 now (not isolated yet), now i need to repeat the same process all over for the ff's... groan

sand coral
chilly fulcrum
#

at least it knows i guess

night dragon
#

CA40-CA51, ca54-55, ca58, ca7d
stuff here #1206592567622373446 message

chilly fulcrum
night dragon
#

death

chilly fulcrum
#

yes, help

#

i cant revive

#

ok got it

#

that was so stupid

#

3a 3b 3c 3d = abcd

trim pond
#

i don't think the a b c and d in the 3a 3b 3c 3d is related to the abcd. i think it just saw a sequences and gave a sequence

chilly fulcrum
trim pond
#

what about making "\xf3\xa1\x80\x80" ?

#

and combining it with exxxx

chilly fulcrum
#

worth a try, do we have a tech for that?

trim pond
#

we have "\x"

#

you can append other letters to it

echo wasp
#

nothing to do with 3a 3b 3c 3d

chilly fulcrum
#

ok

#

alright, um where is the "\x"

trim pond
#

under alphabets

#

#1214815916957761586 message

#

weird that i can't find the recipe for "\e[0m" cause I am like 90% sure i posted it

chilly fulcrum
#

damn

twin bay
#

殊 U+6B8A

chilly fulcrum
#

string.raw

#

not something i have

twin bay
#

Easier 舒 U+8212

chilly fulcrum
#

whew... might need the full remove("alphabet"), string.remove, and with ' quotes too...

#

cause i dont have yet

twin bay
#

狮 U+72EE does not appear to have a recipe on sheet although not an FD... There's probably an easier recipe then.
Better recipe: #1206592567622373446 message

echo wasp
#

lion

chilly fulcrum
#

not necessarily, i mean most cjk in the original cjk block are kinda like that

echo wasp
#

nah

trail wagon
echo wasp
#

that definitely has better recipe

chilly fulcrum
trail wagon
chilly fulcrum
#

ah

#

well yes, certainly

#

mid september we discovered the nuke and it let us just about wrap up the entire project in very rapid time

echo wasp
#

The Nuke was discovered

trail wagon
twin bay
#

This has the same character nvm not the same

glad roost
#

We finished the Manhattan Project in ic

echo wasp
#

but how, is the question

chilly fulcrum
#

i mean its on par with difficulty of c0 controls

echo wasp
glad roost
chilly fulcrum
#

*antimatter

trail wagon
echo wasp
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

i actually think thats what will happen, if we ever find it

glad roost
#

and now we have unicodedata.lookup tech

echo wasp
#

although not extremely useful

glad roost
#

it would be nice if we can get 7F from it

chilly fulcrum
#

progress so far on removes

#

well, yes it is annoying that unicodedata is not proving useful yet but like, we havent even isolated it i dont think

#

its always in quotes or hashed or something

twin bay
#

犀 U+7280 and a better U+72EE recipe

chilly fulcrum
#

or it doesnt have ' ' or " " on the inside

#

ah 7280 is good

#

wtf prepend hashtag didnt work to make #shi ? scam

#

its too attracted to poop

#

dang it

twin bay
#

There's probably something better than U+4E00, but better U+72EE

glad roost
twin bay
chilly fulcrum
#

currently im still trying to unquote or unhash the tool

#

but it wont

heady escarp
glad roost
heady escarp
#

how often is "sometimes"

glad roost
#

it's not consistant

chilly fulcrum
#

i mean its worth unquoting

heady escarp
#

has it ever worked when nothing else worked

heady escarp
chilly fulcrum
#

the lookup

glad roost
#

single time but

#

it happened

heady escarp
#

? we already have it unquoted

chilly fulcrum
#

no

heady escarp
#

what was that single time

chilly fulcrum
#

note theres nothing in the parens

glad roost
chilly fulcrum
#

i want there to be stuff in there

#

with quotation marks of some form too

glad roost
#

it would be good if we have 'a' and "a", i think it should be incrementable

chilly fulcrum
#

we have to at least try it in the proper valid syntax

#

even if its less likely to work that way (some tools are like this, especially Give Me A ...)

heady escarp
#

so u would want stuff like Unicodedata.lookup('a') ?

chilly fulcrum
#

yeah

glad roost
#

yes

heady escarp
twin bay
#

許 U+8A31

chilly fulcrum
#

i mean, thats expected

#

its kinda like a generic unicode 'tool' that will just give random characters in 2xxx and 1dxxx and 1fxxx

#

which is basically the default behaviour for anything related closely enough to unicode

chilly fulcrum
#

uh oh

#

hang on wait nvm

twin bay
#

Nobody saw that

chilly fulcrum
#

i pressed control z on input tool

#

that is a fatal mistake

tepid blaze
#

rip

chilly fulcrum
#

ok i think i recovered the situation

#

anyone got a good Jamo?

#

@twin bay did you ever run natas unicode cheker? its js and runs in browser. you paste code, hit enter, then type await check()

twin bay
#

I've run the single char checker that I asked him for like a week ago.

#

This one: #dev message

trim pond
#

wait huh? what did pressing ctr z on that do?

#

is 2sb supposed to combine elements from one side with each other? it is dong that fsr

#

hm.. maybe i accidentally dragged some elements to the wrong side

heady escarp
echo wasp
twin bay
#

西 U+897F. Apparently there exists a different recipe for 西武 too. Nvm this is in the sheet, I looked at the wrong code

heady escarp
chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
twin bay
#

It's in the sheet already, did an oopsie

echo wasp
#

ah

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

Perhaps, I don’t know and I don’t want to find out

trim pond
# trim pond
poll_question_text

What range from main sheet is going to be finished last?

victor_answer_votes

2

total_votes

4

twin bay
#

概 U+6982

trim pond
#

when I combine them now, it makes U+2bd50

tepid blaze
#

neal database having a problem? or some sort of strange dementia bug on your side

trim pond
#

very weird

heady escarp
#

what could i try combining this with?

echo wasp
heady escarp
twin bay
trim pond
trim pond
#

is it possible that ich just assigned the recipe to the wrong element somehow?

echo wasp
#

but that won't make sense, since you input tooled, so clearly that recipe was correct before

trim pond
#

ich not input tool

echo wasp
#

the recipe in the sheet was the same as what was shown in ICH right

trim pond
#

yes

echo wasp
twin bay
#

U+7396 玖 means 9, so there is probably a low depth recipe for it - not in the sheet though

echo wasp
#

hm slight name change?

trim pond
#

not low depth

twin bay
#

驹 U+9A79

#

Easier "jù"

trim pond
#

U+88c5

twin bay
#

犊 - 犟 (U+728A - U+729F) and 犥 - 犫 (U+72A5 - U+72AB)
犋 犌 犍 犎 犏 犐 犑 犒 犓 犔 犕 犖 犗 犘 犙 犚 犛 犜 犝 犞 犟 犥 犦 犨 犩 犪 犫

echo wasp
#

i just discovered Append. I don't get it. It was used in so many lineages...

#

hmm strange.

trim pond
echo wasp
#

umm...

#

thats just fd text from another element

trim pond
#

what about that blue thingy on the left

echo wasp
#

you see... my mbs bugged out and it displayed the codepoints at the bottom...

#

nice fd

trim pond
#

is there something special about it?

echo wasp
#

alfo i thought you discovered this...?

trim pond
#

i can't believe I forgot I got fd on this

echo wasp
#

so yeah idk what happened...

trim pond
#

||3ffff is fake||

echo wasp
trim pond
#

was that from my savefile

echo wasp
#

no

#

ill record a short vid

echo wasp
#

also there were very small signs of overlapping here

trim pond
#

well 3ffff was edited in a software

#

but that was clever

#

i just got fd on U+e1000

echo wasp
#

wtf

#

fr?

trim pond
echo wasp
#

bruh N + R is wider than Water

#

should i post this in #first-discoveries

trim pond
#

moment of truth

#

<o.o>.😦.<o.o>

chilly fulcrum
#

rip

#

it decremented because it didn’t know what to do

echo wasp
#

lmao the ppl in #first-discoveries have no idea

trim pond
#

it was also in the wrong order

chilly fulcrum
#

also codepoint sequence is new, I had tried before but that was ages ago, any tips

#

True

trim pond
#

I had to use Mr. Append(' U+e1000 ')

echo wasp
#

i made it so obvious 😭

left briar
echo wasp
#

yep. answers here

trim pond
#

bro scroll up

left briar
#

but i dont see the answer

echo wasp
#

lets keep it that way then

left briar
chilly fulcrum
#

I mean it’s trivial to just spawn in elements with FD set to true

echo wasp
#

but thats not what i did

left briar
#

but what the hell does that mean other than just the text being larger?

echo wasp
#

also sivvy, the answers have been removed from this thread

left briar
#

bruh

echo wasp
#

you were too late

trim pond
#

oh lol

#

yeah it is gone

left briar
#

what was it?

#

i guess now its impossible to find out

chilly fulcrum
#

I have a hint but I don’t think it’s gonna help

left briar
#

what is it?

chilly fulcrum
#

N + R

echo wasp
#

the issue is that the hints are either too helpful or not helpful at all

left briar
#

gimme a too helpful one

chilly fulcrum
#

nah try with that one

echo wasp
#

sadly, you need at least 10k unicode fds for that

trim pond
#

so i get 6 hints?

left briar
#

mashing together unicode FDs with Mountain?

chilly fulcrum
#

it’s more satisfying for you if you figure it out

#

where does N + R come in?

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

the hint is that N + R is involved in some way

trim pond
#

😢 .

chilly fulcrum
#

I don’t even have 10k FD lmao

left briar
#

is it a different u?

#

oh wait you already said

echo wasp
#

10k fd is for the people who were sadly, too late

#

it was 1 FD beforehand

left briar
#

i dont know enough about N + R to know what you're talking about

chilly fulcrum
#

tell me what’s odd about N + R

left briar
#

dead?

trim pond
#

do you even have N + R?

left briar
#

hang on

tepid blaze
#

i have only 853 fd on unicode 💀

left briar
#

not dead?

#

hold on lemme recheck the wiki

glad roost
trim pond
echo wasp
left briar
#

yeah not dead

chilly fulcrum
tepid blaze
left briar
#

N + R isnt dead even though it probably should be

echo wasp
#

😬

left briar
#

what?

#

it says on the wiki

echo wasp
#

oh no

glad roost
chilly fulcrum
#

do N and combine with R

glad roost
#

So it's fine i believe

echo wasp
#

how many people have been deceived..?

chilly fulcrum
#

don’t believe the wiki believe the game

left briar
#

blame calvin

chilly fulcrum
#

Idk is it? It’s easy to make

tepid blaze
#

N + R is dead

left briar
#

90% chance he was the one who wrote it

#

probably just me

chilly fulcrum
#

so, what might a dead element have to do with this

left briar
#

and calvin

lethal nymph
#

no proof that N + R is dead

left briar
#

zombie?

#

any proof it isnt dead?

echo wasp
#

it might just really really really really hate combining

trim pond
#

77210 unicode chars, and 64913 are FD

lethal nymph
#

my theory is that it's producing another element with spaced plus sign in it

#

which is then banned by neal

left briar
#

perhaps a rare thing which combined with N + R

trim pond
#

yes i have FD on majority of assigned unicodes <- ok possibly not* (it counts unassigned too)

#

as of 15.1

chilly fulcrum
tepid blaze
chilly fulcrum
#

let’s assume it’s dead dead

left briar
#

well yeah N + R is dead then

lethal nymph
#

also i kinda knew the moment i saw asd's reaction lol

echo wasp
tepid blaze
#

yeah but still what the f , i feel like a beginner in comparison with my 853 fd on unicode and total of 3216 unicode char in my savefile (not counting technically most of the scrapping i did) 💀

chilly fulcrum
#

So what might that have to do with it

echo wasp
left briar
chilly fulcrum
#

What can a dead element do that others may not be able to

left briar
#

his fd Mountain is dead?

#

uh

#

break the whole game?

lethal nymph
left briar
#

i dont know

chilly fulcrum
#

no we aren’t going that deep

#

consider only basic behaviour

#

what do dead elements do, or perhaps rather what do they not do

left briar
#

have consistent behaviour?

lethal nymph
#

cause bartleby made the same mistake some time ago so it's still kinda in my head

left briar
#

dont combine?

chilly fulcrum
chilly fulcrum
left briar
#

you said what they do so that threw me off a bit

chilly fulcrum
#

well what they do is display consistent behaviour of doing nothing

trim pond
chilly fulcrum
#

(Note: it counts unassigned also)

left briar
#

so what does N + R have to do with this?

#

well, with the element

chilly fulcrum
#

well in theory any other dead element could do it

left briar
#

the fd mountain

trim pond
chilly fulcrum
#

(tbh I don’t actually know what was up with mountain but only the cuneiform)

#

okay well if it doesn’t combine then think about it what is the use

left briar
#

nothing?

#

fill up your save?

chilly fulcrum
#

what can you reliably do

#

every time

#

with a dead element

echo wasp
#

think hard

left briar
#

not get anything from combining?

echo wasp
#

think less about the result

chilly fulcrum
left briar
chilly fulcrum
#

not getting anything means something important must have happened

#

or rather

#

Not happened

left briar
#

no response?

chilly fulcrum
#

forget the response

#

we don’t care about it

#

what happens when a combination is rejected

#

what happens to the items?

left briar
#

they stay?

chilly fulcrum
#

exactly

left briar
#

so you have a dead fd behind the mountain?

chilly fulcrum
#

yay

chilly fulcrum
#

that’s right

left briar
#

i kinda got that#

#

just not the exact method

echo wasp
#

Mountain over N + R, which was over a zero-width FD

chilly fulcrum
#

why zero width?

left briar
#

#first-discoveries message

chilly fulcrum
#

oh so it doesn’t combine

echo wasp
#

idk, was just one I had nearby

left briar
#

so i was kinda right

echo wasp
#

honestly the size of the FD just doesn't need to be bigger than mountain

#

And N + R

left briar
#

to make sure its behind

#

because dead

lethal nymph
chilly fulcrum
#

What about the one with different emoji you had

echo wasp
#

hey at least I did it better than that guy

left briar
#

things behind other things

chilly fulcrum
#

Append

left briar
#

the oldest trick in teh book

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

I’m curious if you guys have conflicting recipes like I did

#

I only had one

echo wasp
lethal nymph
#

i'm sure i have a bunch of conflicting recipes with In A

chilly fulcrum
#

Char at end rather than start? ok

trim pond
#

ok i changed nata's code for checking for new chars and I have 62831 fds on assigned

chilly fulcrum
#

my indexer throws an error at every conflicting recipe 💀

#

Not a bad error, one caused by raise

trim pond
#

so I am 137 short

chilly fulcrum
#

intended error

#

Indicates a problem requiring manual resolution

echo wasp
lethal nymph
#

he almost got tricked by it

#

i have 1569 fds from scrapping which is not as impressive but still quite neat

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

idk my FD count

#

it is likely proportionally quite low

trim pond
chilly fulcrum
#

since I spent loads of recipes and elements just verifying/performing recipes for input tool

lethal nymph
#

oh wtf i have katana small e fd?

abstract marsh
#

u wut 😭

echo wasp
#

katana

glad roost
lethal nymph
#

katakana*

#

i wasn't thinking

echo wasp
#

damn since when was the Katana Alphabet a thing

lethal nymph
#

tiny miny

echo wasp
lethal nymph
#

i'm sure 0x16c will like this

trim pond
#

Katana alphabet mockup

lethal nymph
#

oh the horror

glad roost
#

I'm gonna do it

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
trim pond
lethal nymph
#

it has all the sheet data so i can also include char name lol

echo wasp
#

what about the Katana Script Punctuation?

#

what

#

137 fds or what

trim pond
#

to have half of all assigned as of 15.1

#

fd

#

or else i won't have half

chilly fulcrum
lethal nymph
#

to this date i still don't know about the space thing

sand coral
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

?

#

oh

echo wasp
#

what are you questioning?

chilly fulcrum
#

Don’t worry

echo wasp
#

surely Katana Script Unicode will work

#

surely llama will know just cuz of our messages

trim pond
echo wasp
#

hmm do Katana letters have upper and lowercase variants?
if so we will have another caps anomaly

trim pond
#

well it flips every 10000 so sadly yes. if it was 4xxxx range then we wouldn't

echo wasp
#

someone make a proposal to unicode to add the Katana Script into Unicode 17.0 (will definitely not gey rejected)

lethal nymph
#

making it lowercase should split the letter into two

sonic heart
#

where do i check my unicode fds

sand coral
echo wasp
#

Kanata Currency Sign

#

U+520A4

trim pond
#

assigned fds - modified nata's code```sheetId = "1PRtlXvjbHs4ulct6gSbYc6VYrQegU7HZ5SdhThkHuoY";
gids = [
"1586918317", // unicode chars
"2129412547", // hangul
"1446897313" // cjk
];

data = new Map();

async function parseSheet(gid) {
console.log("downloading sheet with gid", gid)
const response = await fetch(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/${sheetId }/export?format=tsv&gid=${gid});

if (!response.ok) return console.warn("failed to download sheet with gid", gid);

const text = await response.text(),
    rows = text.split("\n");
let count = 0;

for (const row of rows) {
    const columns = row.trim().split("\t");

    if (columns[2] === "") continue;

    const dec = +columns[2];

    if (isNaN(dec)) continue;

    data.set(dec, columns);
    count++;
}
console.info("updated the data of", count, "rows");

}

async function check(download = true) {
if (download) {
data = new Map();
for (const gid of gids)
await parseSheet(gid);
}

console.info(data.size, "rows of data loaded")

const elements = JSON.parse(localStorage.getItem("infinite-craft-data")).elements;
let count = 0;

for (const element of elements) {
    // not single char
    if ([...element.text].length > 1) continue;

    const dec = element.text.codePointAt(0),
        charData = data.get(dec);

    // not in sheet
    if (!charData) continue;
    // marked in sheet

// if (charData[4] === "TRUE") continue;
// not FD
if (!element.discovered) continue;

//  console.log(`${charData[0]}\t${charData[1]}\t${charData[3]}`);
    count++;
}

console.info(count || "no", "new chars found")

}```

echo wasp
sonic heart
#

no way actual unassigned chars (not useful at all)

echo wasp
#

what would I even call this

glad roost
lethal nymph
sonic heart
lethal nymph
#

why is it kanata now

glad roost
#

ka @lethal nymph ka @lethal nymph

lethal nymph
#

oh my god

tepid blaze
echo wasp
#

Kanata symbol lmao

sonic heart
trim pond
echo wasp
#

Kanata Symbol

lethal nymph
echo wasp
echo wasp
trim pond
#

Katana Kanata

glad roost
#

kanatanata

echo wasp
#

Katana Letter Kanata

glad roost
lethal nymph
# lethal nymph trust

Please put a disclaimer that the above was not meant as innuendo nor any other method of allusion, the chicken I was cooking flambéed itself while I wasn't looking

I don't need another duck stuffing incident

echo wasp
#

Katana Grinning Face

sonic heart
echo wasp
#

U+6f600

trim pond
echo wasp
#

Katana: U+52000-U+52FFF
Katana Extended-A: U+50000-U+51FFF
Katana Extended-B: U+53FFF-U+5FFFF
Katana Extended-C:
U+60000-U+6FFFF
Katana Extended-D:
U+70000-U+7FFFF

sonic heart
trim pond
echo wasp
#

Make a design for 50000

trim pond
#

ok

#

when i finish what i am doing rn

twin bay
echo wasp
#

Katana Syllable Bbweok (U+5C000)

trim pond
#

U+5202f is Katana Delete
U+52059 - U+5205f is Katana Private Use Area
U+52060 is Katana Space
U+5207x is unassigned

sand coral
#

two recipes for 754f

echo wasp
#

I will assign them rq

trim pond
#

did you notice the uppercase numbers?

echo wasp
#

also which one is the space

trim pond
#

52060

echo wasp
#

lmao

trim pond
#

5202f is delete

echo wasp
#

what about 52059-f

trim pond
#

changed it to private use

echo wasp
#

wait... so the unassigned chars in the Katana Block will render as 刀

trim pond
#

yes

echo wasp
#

gonna put some 00ax chars for 5207x

trim pond
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ok depends on the font but unassigned look like this

twin bay
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Steal ip?

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U+50000 Katana True Null

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but wasn't 52000 Katana Small Digit Zero?

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*50000

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i put the wrong codepoint there

lethal nymph
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what would Plane 5, 6, and 7 be called them

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then*

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since they're all occupied by Katana Script

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? do planes 0, 1, 2 and 3 have names?

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yeah they do

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plane 14 too

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what are they called?

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Plane 0: Basic Multilingual Plane
Plane 1: Supplementary Multilingual Plane
Plane 2: Supplementary Ideographic Plane
Plane 3: Tertiary Ideographic Plane
Plane 14: Supplementary Special-purpose Plane

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I found U+50000

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lmao

sonic heart
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real

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Plane 5: Basic Katana Ideographs Plane
Plane 6: Supplementary Katana Ideographs Plane
Plane 7: Tertiary Katana Ideographs Plane

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Plane 6: SKIP

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4*

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ooh nvm

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