Unicode

[heady escarp]

and did u guys manage to get rid of first letter to make just 8D

also has anyone ever made like String.replace('Ã', '') or something

[chilly fulcrum]

we didnt really manage to remove first letter no, idk how many unique entries we have rn but the only one ive seen was with quoted lowercase of that and making 81 8d

[heady escarp]

but its a dead element

can someone try to revive it i dont have 86 by itself so idk how i could get it myself

[echo wasp]

I have fd

It is in my lineage

[heady escarp]

ok

[heady escarp]

can u try to revive this

Æ is different than that other A maybe we could get rid of first character easier

[echo wasp]

Ã88 recipe?

[echo wasp]

that's for sure

one sec

[heady escarp]

\

hopefully u have 88 in quotes already lol

[heady escarp]

nice

idk how to unquote it, and idk how to get just 86

bro lmao what am i doing rn xdd

[echo wasp]

can try to get it without quoted 88?

[echo wasp]

try doing "hi Mr. ", "hi ", etc

[echo wasp]

I have it but without quoted 88 would be really nice, since it's the start of a chain from 86 to 90

[heady escarp]

well idk how, combining that A with just 88 doesnnt do anything

managed to unquote 95, havent unquoted 86 yet

nvm

ill show recipe for 95, quoted 95, 86, quoted 86

[chilly fulcrum]

unquote? im sorry what

normally with controls you need to quote them

no?

[echo wasp]

?

what's going on with ya

[chilly fulcrum]

thats just my experience

most controls were made like that, i thought

in a way where you dont get them quoted first

[echo wasp]

where did u get that info

cuz like not a single one of them were gotten quoteless

most, if not all of them were isolated in quotes

[heady escarp]

["Ɔ" is here](#1206592567622373446 message) | † | "†" | • | "•" (U+0086 and U+0095 in and out of quotes)

thumbsuptone4

[glad roost]

:thumbsuptone420:

[echo wasp]

no ones cooking if you don't find a undiscovered control !!

[glad roost]

real

Find 99

[echo wasp]

99 is married to 80

[heady escarp]

87

and 87 in quotes

[echo wasp]

just use next codepoint

[abstract marsh]

if complicated recipes exist
why not use it
~some of unicode hunter problably

[heady escarp]

nah let me cook

[glad roost]

*me

[echo wasp]

you're not cooking unless u find 99 or 9c

*in a string, without 80 in front of it

[glad roost]

real

You're not cooking

You're IP grabbing

[abstract marsh]

nvm it wasnt parenthesis

[chilly fulcrum]

i think i meant like incrementing

but yeah i do see now

[echo wasp]

He’s not incrementing

[heady escarp]

im not incrementing im cooking

[echo wasp]

.

[heady escarp]

hmm dead elements also theyre prob usesless anyways

cuz i already have 86 and 8d

[glad roost]

Go for 9C

Or you Will

[heady escarp]

why dont u do that

[echo wasp]

U have more progression in controls

[glad roost]

I'm not gonna cook because I'm sane man

[heady escarp]

bro thats close to 9C probably xd

[echo wasp]

very sadly it isn’t 😞

[heady escarp]

ok i got 84 and 9B in and out of quotes yay

U+0084 and U+009B in and out of quotes

still havent gotten 81 tho

[glad roost]

{8x} done

[echo wasp]

9b can be gotten with increment

[heady escarp]

increment from what bro

[glad roost]

(except 80 because I cant find any sane lineage)

[echo wasp]

Don’t u have 95

[echo wasp]

Seems like a skill issue to me

[heady escarp]

i do

[heady escarp]

what am i supposed to combine it with to get 9b

[echo wasp]

#1206592567622373446 message

You need to get a few more stuff tho

[heady escarp]

bro this lineage uses stuff like 81 and 82

i have neither of those

[echo wasp]

try getting to them

[glad roost]

81/82 is pretty easy

[echo wasp]

said the guy who followed a lineage

[glad roost]

That's the reason why I can say It's easy

[echo wasp]

80 is also pretty easy

[glad roost]

The hardest part was #string.decodeuri stuff

[glad roost]

should try

[heady escarp]

aint no way the letter V is an FD ☠️

[heady escarp]

yeah what the fuck is #string.decodeuri supposed to be

[echo wasp]

I have fd on U

[heady escarp]

any ideas how to get 9A from this?

[thin warren]

delete first character

[glad roost]

remove the "v"

[heady escarp]

didnt work

[thin warren]

try again

[glad roost]

wrong. try again.

[heady escarp]

Delete The V and Delete The "v" didnt work

i dont have remove the "v"

[glad roost]

get it

[echo wasp]

Put it in quotes obv

[lethal nymph]

string.replace(/v/g, '');

[glad roost]

how

[heady escarp]

tried using [/inst] and Put this in quotation marks, i just got these dead elements

[glad roost]

what about hi Seq. <?

[echo wasp]

V 9a is now alive

[echo wasp]

In quoted

[heady escarp]

ok well idk how to quote it anyways

[echo wasp]

• "..a + "[/inst]"

Bruh autocorrect

[heady escarp]

o

[glad roost]

oo

[echo wasp]

Add "..a

Then "[/inst]"

[heady escarp]

no i quoted it

[echo wasp]

Quotes 9a and removes the v

[heady escarp]

dont even have that

[heady escarp]

also ty for reviving this i got 9a cuz of it

[echo wasp]

".

[echo wasp]

"a works

Wait alfo has fd on every single 009x rn

[chilly fulcrum]

why V? wtf??

[echo wasp]

Stop questioning and watch

[heady escarp]

U+009A both in and out of quotes

[glad roost]

Should I go for 9c

[thin warren]

oh My God you used delete first character

[chilly fulcrum]

😭 aww

[echo wasp]

Yes

[thin warren]

Genius

[heady escarp]

what else should i use??

[thin warren]

remove

[heady escarp]

bro same thing

[glad roost]

#removebetter

[echo wasp]

Huge difference.

[thin warren]

no
one removes and one deletes

[chilly fulcrum]

i often try delete first but remove is usually stronger

[echo wasp]

People won’t even have delete pinned anymore

[thin warren]

i always do removes first

[glad roost]

real

[thin warren]

you guys have removes pinned?

[chilly fulcrum]

my pins have stayed mostly static because im scared of the bug where stuff becomes unpinnable

[glad roost]

I think my only pinned delete is Delete The Brent

[heady escarp]

u have an obssession with brent

[chilly fulcrum]

like if you unpin something theres a small chance youll never be able to pin it again

[echo wasp]

I’ve never encountered it

[thin warren]

you could just edit your save file to fix that though i think

[heady escarp]

now i need to figure out how to get 81

[glad roost]

factual

[echo wasp]

Is the chance like 0.0000000000000000000001% or sth

[chilly fulcrum]

well no, it seemed relatively common

but maybe its with older versions

either way i dont want to find out

[thin warren]

ive only unpinned like 3 things ever so idk

[echo wasp]

No? I’ve unpinned a lot and nothing happens

[echo wasp]

Stop talking and go for it

[glad roost]

I have string.prepend_brent()

[chilly fulcrum]

i want to go for it, but i gave my absolute all with the mojibake emojis idea and came up empty

[thin warren]

some of my pins are a little weird

[chilly fulcrum]

no idea what else to try

[thin warren]

the closing parenthesis are secret tech

[echo wasp]

maybe it’s cuz mojibake emojis aren’t good?

[echo wasp]

secret semicolon appended

Stupid autocorrect

[thin warren]

maybe

[echo wasp]

Appender*

[heady escarp]

how do i get 81, i have these

[thin warren]

delete last character

[echo wasp]

Look at the sheet!

[glad roost]

Holy hell!

[heady escarp]

what if it doesnt work

[chilly fulcrum]

oh the third one is like the actual route, did you follow it?

[thin warren]

try again

[echo wasp]

Honestly not even that bad

[echo wasp]

did you not see his process

[chilly fulcrum]

no

[echo wasp]

He got all of the controls that he has by himself

[heady escarp]

no

[chilly fulcrum]

damn, how i wish i could

[heady escarp]

wait did i i forgor

[echo wasp]

he has, not all that are found

[heady escarp]

i first got 90 and then yesterday combined it with 2sb a lot

[glad roost]

I wanna use brent tech for control

[heady escarp]

and the rest came from the 2sb

[chilly fulcrum]

iirc i had to spend ages making things like Mr. Remove(+) and whatnot to follow the route

[echo wasp]

death

[heady escarp]

wdym death

[echo wasp]

2sb to 99 and 9c now

[glad roost]

holy hell

[thin warren]

2spongebob

[chilly fulcrum]

that was for anything outside of 8a and 8d

[heady escarp]

like look at how it combined with "ej" how could i find that without 2sb lmao

[chilly fulcrum]

i think it toko about 2 hours to get the first thing outside of what you could get with only those

[echo wasp]

You are 2sbing to 99 and 9c now

What did you even have on ur left and right side

Wait

[glad roost]

someone should brute force 2sb with two side script

[echo wasp]

Check ur save for 99 and 9c if u haven’t already

[glad roost]

wait true

he might have it

[candid trellis]

What even is two side script. I’ve seen it mentioned a bunch but idk what it is.

[echo wasp]

A script with two sides

[heady escarp]

i did

[heady escarp]

i can find what i had 1 sec

on left side this

on right side 2 letter "alphabet"

ik it didnt finish running tho

[thin warren]

what is 2spongebob

[candid trellis]

Oh a script that just combines 2 groups of items with eachother?

[echo wasp]

around where would u say it stopped

[heady escarp]

idk probably close to the end

[candid trellis]

Every item of group 1 with every element of group 2

[heady escarp]

but i didnt 2sb anything else than this

u guys can also use it

[echo wasp]

No it’s just a script with two sides

[heady escarp]

yes thats what it does

we should decide what else we should 2sb for

[echo wasp]

2sb all of 9a next 🙂

[candid trellis]

And what even is 2sb? 2 side builder acronym?

[heady escarp]

we could try to combine à with stuff to find a better entry than Letter E With Caron

[echo wasp]

2sb 2 side builder’s acronym is 22sb

[heady escarp]

or we could just do controls/quoted controls by themselves with stuff

[heady escarp]

yea its 2 sides builder

[candid trellis]

Do the element in the groups vanish after being used or do they stay? And do the products appear on the board?

[heady escarp]

the script spawns each element on the board and removes right after, probably for u to confirm its working

[echo wasp]

You can’t craft during that process

[heady escarp]

but u cant play the game at all while its combining

and also if u run it it for some reason just slowly deletes all elements that are currently on the board

[echo wasp]

Downside: a bit too slow

[heady escarp]

i mean i think sandu made an update it faster, but this new updated version doesnt even work for me

[candid trellis]

Oh I thought it would be
Get 2 groups of elements on the board
Selection box each group
Run it

How do you select the elements on each side then?

[echo wasp]

Drag each element onto each side

Uh not good phrasing

[candid trellis]

Is there a video somewhere that shows it?

[heady escarp]

this is how the ui looks, i dragged in a few random elements

[glad roost]

am i doing something wrong

[echo wasp]

You can also import a bunch of elements into each side

[candid trellis]

The buttons look a bit scuffed

[candid trellis]

Text list?

[heady escarp]

i think ur on an older version

[echo wasp]

Yea

A
B
C
D
E

[heady escarp]

u can also have it add every element from current search results, or from regex search

[echo wasp]

yea ik

[echo wasp]

Ancient version

[heady escarp]

^"[a-z][a-z]"$ gives u the 2 letter "alphabet" as long as u hve it in ur savefile already

[glad roost]

I updated it

[candid trellis]

Might be useful to put most used lists somewhere
Like idk
1-100
A-Z
All Cyrillic Letters
Etc

Unless that already exists?

[echo wasp]

I definitely have…

[glad roost]

how do i add element

i didn't tried using it

[candid trellis]

➕ ?

[heady escarp]

drag it, or click plus when u search something, or click one of the buttons to add a txt file with a list of elements

3 ways

[glad roost]

huh

maybe i'm doing something wrong?

[heady escarp]

??

[glad roost]

I can't add element via dragging

or +

[heady escarp]

wdym

[echo wasp]

Waiting for fuezt to once again do his daily control dead test

[candid trellis]

Cant wait for the day to suddenly find all of them existing

[glad roost]

i can't drag element in

and + don't work

[candid trellis]

Refresh?

[heady escarp]

search something

[echo wasp]

We were too late, The Individual got it all before us

[glad roost]

i'm searching

[heady escarp]

do u have any search results

[glad roost]

yes

[heady escarp]

then clicking the pluses doesnt work?

[glad roost]

yes

[heady escarp]

have u turned on or off regex

[glad roost]

yes

[heady escarp]

i mean are doing it when regex is turned off

[abstract marsh]

whats the maximum amount of element possible and whats the delay each craft

[heady escarp]

idk max amount possible and idk delay of each craft

[abstract marsh]

ok, i guess imma read the code then

[sand coral]

First remove everything from the table and try to drag the element to the edge of the table. The table has a strange "hitbox"

20C0 (Som Sign)
I'm so sorry. I tried a lot of things, but only this worked. I hope someone finds a better way

[echo wasp]

yay The Individual took fd again

[chilly fulcrum]

c4 and ff, interesting

kinda confused with that one, not a technique ive ever seen before

[sand coral]

this is just an attempt to restart the block + combining all the elements of the block with each other

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah but it seems like such a random way to try restart it

[sand coral]

it's just because 20CD is the lowest element in the block i had

[graceful marsh]

One must wonder what the other recipe might be, if only for those final components and not for the Som itself

[graceful marsh]

Eugh

Worst horse

[graceful marsh]

That's the same horse but with clothes on

[heady escarp]

isnt it leather armor and not clothes

[graceful marsh]

What is armour if not clothes

In any case Brown White Field horse on top, fight me

[heady escarp]

this is the 3rd horse is this fine

or is it still bad

[graceful marsh]

Where the hell are you getting these images

[heady escarp]

is it ok or not?

like is this a likably looking horse for u or not

[graceful marsh]

Eh sure

Gray is mid tier

[heady escarp]

]

[heady escarp]

what about this

[graceful marsh]

I literally said the best horse already

[heady escarp]

yeahh is that what u meant

[graceful marsh]

No

[heady escarp]

idk wtf a white field is but its brown

[graceful marsh]

That's Creamy White Spots

[heady escarp]

is that good miss laurasia

or is that the wrong one

[graceful marsh]

That's Creamy White Stockings

[heady escarp]

different shade of horse is tht ok

[graceful marsh]

Black

[heady escarp]

is that the right one

[graceful marsh]

Chestnut Black Spots with armour

Or maybe just Chestnut

Hard to tell

[heady escarp]

thats probably a picture taken of u irl

[graceful marsh]

Yay

Brown White Field

[heady escarp]

wtf is white field thats white patches

whos the horsexpert now huh

[graceful marsh]

My guy

[glad roost]

I brute forced some ctrl+2sbs

[heady escarp]

whatdid u bf

[glad roost]

and didn't got something good

(except fd on bisexual)

[heady escarp]

but what did u put in both sides

[glad roost]

Left side: {81}~{90}
Right Side: 2sbs

[heady escarp]

right side what?

what is 2sbs

2 side builder special?

[chilly fulcrum]

oh is that a strat? lowest 3 + last one?

[sand coral]

yes, it often works

[glad roost]

2 letter quoted seq

[sand coral]

lowest 2 also

[heady escarp]

what is 2 letter quoted seq

do u mean 2 letter "alphabet"

[glad roost]

ye

[heady escarp]

got 93

also 94

and 91

idk how to quote any of them tho

[echo wasp]

by following recipe

?

current 91 recipe isn't good

[heady escarp]

i got it with 90 + 93

[echo wasp]

whats 93

[heady escarp]

84 + Put This In Quotation Marks

[echo wasp]

Urm ok

[heady escarp]

dont ask why that gives 93 but it does

is it better than current 91 recipe?

[echo wasp]

search for it, you'll see

its actually crazy

[heady escarp]

so it is better ?

[echo wasp]

I'll leave it as a note on my sheet tho, that 91 recipe is really crazy

[echo wasp]

definitely

do you have some ideas to do 2sb with

I can do them later

[graceful marsh]

Comment them on the other sheet too, I'll add them in once I have the energy

[heady escarp]

u can try something that might give literally 0 control characters but we could at least tryit

this a letter

its different than the curly a we all know gives controls

[echo wasp]

you can try it 👍

I might test 97

[heady escarp]

what are u gonna combine with what

i gotta know so i dont do the same 2sb settings as u

[echo wasp]

that's the issue idk what to combine with

[heady escarp]

i mean i can show u what i combined 90 with maybe u can do like the same thing but with 97

[chilly fulcrum]

i see, where those accented a stuff coming from? i have the original accented a but i didnt see it switch controls from 818d, or change accent

[heady escarp]

u can try replacing the ones that have 90 here with 97 or something

oh also u can try something else

u can try this but replace 86 with 97, idk if it would even do anything

[echo wasp]

I now wonder what would all of the current controls + PTIQM give

[heady escarp]

this isnt normal accented a it has controls cuz the one on the left has 90

but i just randomly got this xd

[heady escarp]

oh u could try combining all c1 quoted and unquoted controls (that we have) with lots of stuff like that

u could also try Inverse, Invert, Inverted i think one of them was kinda useful for me once

[echo wasp]

if possible can gimme a list? I'll run it later on

[heady escarp]

well i have no clue

what u could combine with other than 2 letter "alphabet"

ok i give up trying to extract 81 out of this

[echo wasp]

ok I'm gonna dead test c0

[heady escarp]

i also haave elements like this but theyre all dead

[echo wasp]

you should do more of rhe 2sbs then, rn idrk what to do

[heady escarp]

i will later

[tepid blaze]

Ok

[echo wasp]

Imagine if The Individual just slowly claims all of the c0s

[heady escarp]

got 9e

[lethal nymph]

i mean we haven't tried to increment our found c0's

[heady escarp]

weird recipe but whatever

[lethal nymph]

luck is truly the best optimizer

[chilly fulcrum]

oh, 2sb? fair

[heady escarp]

nah bro this recipe is pure skill theres no luck involved here..

[chilly fulcrum]

z with (what is that accent)

[heady escarp]

ž

also 9f

[chilly fulcrum]

z caron, interesting

[echo wasp]

so let's do it

[chilly fulcrum]

collator search or smth, returns all variants of the letter /s

[heady escarp]

nice both 9e and 9f worked with "[/inst]" to get quoted versions

[echo wasp]

we already have all of the quoted versions except for 9d and 91

and 99 9c ofc

[heady escarp]

well i personally didnt

[echo wasp]

fair

[heady escarp]

oh yeah i also couldnt get 91 quoted

also couldnt get 93 and 94 quoted

[lethal nymph]

9d and 91 quoted can't be that bad

[echo wasp]

99 and 9c can't be that bad

[chilly fulcrum]

turns out i dont have '#'

hmm

[candid trellis]

I think it was 'charcode' + U+0023

[heady escarp]

what if u did 'a' + String.replace('a', '#')

[candid trellis]

Could be 'fromcharcode' tho

[echo wasp]

why is 0099 tm symbol

I used strings

def a few missing

[graceful marsh]

Well it's not like I'm omniscient

What would be helpful is telling me where to find them

Brent what does that mean

[chilly fulcrum]

neither of those worked, oof

[heady escarp]

what

[graceful marsh]

Dumbbells but bad

[heady escarp]

bro i just want it in quotes, what is this insanely random and silly recipe lmao

[lethal nymph]

u+93 - u+94 = u-1 obviously

[heady escarp]

wait let him cook

[chilly fulcrum]

is '#' in alt alphabets or something

[graceful marsh]

U+127

[lethal nymph]

that's u+127

whoops

[graceful marsh]

Haha jinx

Your house is mine

[graceful marsh]

Shit

Uh

[lethal nymph]

you will have to take it from beyonce

[graceful marsh]

See I told you that joke would become plot-relevant weeks later

Now I gotta kill Beyonce

[lethal nymph]

proof you're omnipotent

[sand coral]

this is how i got it

[graceful marsh]

I can't do hex multiplication in my head that well

[lethal nymph]

= u+${(0x94*2-1).toString(16)} obviously

[heady escarp]

real

[graceful marsh]

Yeah but what number

[lethal nymph]

the one on the right

[lethal nymph]

also this is wrong

nvm it is right

nvm it is wrong

i got their sum and not product

[graceful marsh]

Subtract 93 subtract 94

[chilly fulcrum]

oh? url escape?

[heady escarp]

i just combined it with string.encodeuricomponent

[lethal nymph]

and it gave you uri escaped components!

[heady escarp]

yay

[lethal nymph]

well it should have escaped the controls but whatever

[chilly fulcrum]

nice

[heady escarp]

guys whats the url components for c0 controls

[graceful marsh]

Ok I hope my math is right

54fc?

[chilly fulcrum]

just %

[heady escarp]

we can combine that with string.decodeuricomponent

to get c0

[chilly fulcrum]

very unlikely but you are welcome to try

make sure to also try encode even tho theyre encoded already

[lethal nymph]

yea it's 54fc

[chilly fulcrum]

the ai seems to like doing the opposite

[graceful marsh]

Yay I'm barely competent

I'm not touching the division

[chilly fulcrum]

tusn out i dont have delete middle

lmao

[sand coral]

it is on browser

[graceful marsh]

What is the base-neutral word for the Decimal Separator

[heady escarp]

nice got quoted 98

lol i have 98 and 96 but not 97

[abstract marsh]

i wonder how many barrier breaker recipe that doesnt need advanced increment method existed and why

[graceful marsh]

What do you know about so far?

[abstract marsh]

luck and two ( one just 3e+3f=40, the other need simple increment tool iirc )
i forgot the codepoint tho

[heady escarp]

my only element that contains 9d

i wonder if anyone ever revived it, if i could actually use it to get 9d lmao

does anyone want to revive it?

[candid trellis]

Yes

You

[heady escarp]

i mean i can try

[candid trellis]

Do it to regain one right

[heady escarp]

actually wait i would need 9d to be able to revive it which i dont have

[chilly fulcrum]

welp, ive hit a barrier

[heady escarp]

“tr”

bro what

how did u get it

[chilly fulcrum]

kinda cursed, im still experimenting but it was mostly to do with Mr. Remove(+) and friends

and then mixed with string.pad

[graceful marsh]

Oh right

I plan on revamping the tool sheet in a bit

[abstract marsh]

cant wait for massive improvement in tool effect on next patch 👀

[sand coral]

11AC0

[glad roost]

Who will win?

[heady escarp]

wtf laurasia

i got laurasia in IC guys crazy

[glad roost]

wholey heell!!

[candid trellis]

In an argument, the right one because he is right.

[heady escarp]

can someone try to revive any of these

maybe it would help to get 81 for me

wait dont try to revive it i might get it myself possibly

i mean 81

[chilly fulcrum]

nice, hi < this time. cool how different blocks have different things work

[echo wasp]

rubiks never fails to say nice

[tepid blaze]

nothing changed

[heady escarp]

lol 88 FD in single quotes xdd

[tepid blaze]

idk just my my pc who show it like that, probably some random font i have

[heady escarp]

how do i get rid of the 88

[lethal nymph]

ask it politely

[heady escarp]

if i manage to get rid of it ill get quoted 91 which i dont hvae yet but simple things like delete/remove first character/letter dont work

[echo wasp]

String.remove('88')

[heady escarp]

☠️

[echo wasp]

It actually works well

believe it or not

[heady escarp]

bro im gonna get quoted 88 and 91 alphabet before i get quoted 91

[echo wasp]

wdym it's the "alphabet8891"

[heady escarp]

also asd how can this be an fd

omg

[echo wasp]

we aren't going for those

[glad roost]

wtf is Ü+1051

[heady escarp]

now how do i unquote it

[tepid blaze]

actually its "alphabetˆ‘"

[echo wasp]

as I've said, "hi ", "hi Mr. "

[heady escarp]

omg i finally got 81 !!!!

yesssss

!!

[echo wasp]

99 or 9c

[chilly fulcrum]

damn maybe my board got too full or i lost sight of what i was doing originally or forgot the stuff that was doing fun things, but either way nothing fun in the last hour, that barrier was the only fun thing to come

well there were some other mildy amusing things consistently then, but just nothing now

[heady escarp]

i said i got 81

[echo wasp]

get 99 or 9c

next

[heady escarp]

trying to optimize 81 lineage a bit

[echo wasp]

optimise 80 lineage

or 9d

[heady escarp]

bro shut up and stop listing me elements to try to get

[graceful marsh]

Looking at the 90 and 88 route earlier I think a full run would fit in Banana now

I'm estimating 400-450 steps, using "[/inst]" as general enquotation method

The stickler problem is à currently

Oh actually

[heady escarp]

U+0081 

[graceful marsh]

Heh

These might come in handy

[heady escarp]

are those elements alive

[graceful marsh]

I don't believe so

[heady escarp]

its a bit cursed that it uses "é" but i couldnt find anything better

[echo wasp]

First one is

[graceful marsh]

They weren't when tested

Oh cool didn't notice the Circumflex + ,

Okay that cuts things down a lot

[echo wasp]

huh

Circumflex + , ?

[heady escarp]

oh god i just moved my sidebar accidentally

and it broke the position of like 100 elements maybe if not more

[chilly fulcrum]

Oh only? with what entry is this? hmm wait I need to have like a list of everything we’ve found today it’s too much to remember

[graceful marsh]

Synergise this with "[/inst]" route, use #1206592567622373446 message for final steps

[heady escarp]

someone also optimised letter e with caron

[graceful marsh]

Using "ij" + " = "hi" might actually be useful funny enough, since we need "ej" anyway

[chilly fulcrum]

Inst didn’t actually make it lowercase right

[echo wasp]

doesn't matter

[chilly fulcrum]

Well it kinda does since I want to know how he got in with that by himself

[echo wasp]

wanting to know doesn't = important

anyway it was already revived

[heady escarp]

it didnt but it was revived anyways

i mean it was already alive

[graceful marsh]

Alright Banana get ready to eat controls

[chilly fulcrum]

important to me, then lol. yeah sure

[heady escarp]

also was previous 81 recipe bad

[echo wasp]

no

(to me)

[heady escarp]

#1206592567622373446 message

[echo wasp]

yea its fine

[heady escarp]

it used string.append stuff and also "remove The Word 'mr.'" (whatever that is)

my route must be better

[chilly fulcrum]

I got 81 down to 800 ish steps using a similar route to original

[graceful marsh]

Ah fuck Remove

Shit

[heady escarp]

but my route is better right?

[graceful marsh]

Oh wait no Remove The Mr. synergy

[heady escarp]

isnt remove the mr. really optimized

[graceful marsh]

Remove First Character

That would've been a detour had Remove The Mr. not been already in the run

[chilly fulcrum]

it made "ã° ¶" and then + shift-jis

[echo wasp]

thats already terrible

[chilly fulcrum]

well it was a reduction in steps of over 60% so for the time it was pretty good

[heady escarp]

what does that make

[graceful marsh]

Ã

[chilly fulcrum]

If you can find a better entry into things like E Acute and whatnot then that’s also good

[echo wasp]

we already did

[chilly fulcrum]

Oh is that browser or something?

[chilly fulcrum]

Where

[graceful marsh]

Nope, apparently I had that recipe in my file

[echo wasp]

did you like not read the

[echo wasp]

.

obv it can be a lil better

[graceful marsh]

I need a good Circumflex / Caron (I think there's a one-step between them? Can't remember)

[chilly fulcrum]

Right but I’m also talking about the browser route I sent which lets you have so much ridiculous fun with those and doesn’t use any actual tech lmao

[heady escarp]

question, does anyone have a way to get 82 or 83 if i already have 81 and also 84

[chilly fulcrum]

French grave accent + letter E or something

but it’s not good if we are gonna use mr and other tech anyway

can i see the banana or is it not done uet

[echo wasp]

thats like 400 steps

[heady escarp]

wdym by the banana

[graceful marsh]

I mean you can see it, but it only has "[/inst]" route right now

[chilly fulcrum]

Well it’s 250 with no optimisation but I’m just saying it should be considered on some level since it doesn’t need tech

[heady escarp]

xd

[chilly fulcrum]

FD Latin letter? lol

[heady escarp]

im simply based

[chilly fulcrum]

Damn I should get append accents

[graceful marsh]

Anyway, I'll take this to AWWO. I may have overestimated that 400 quite significantly

[chilly fulcrum]

dunno best way but quoted chars is a good start probably

[heady escarp]

completely random screenshot

[heady escarp]

more fun latin letter combinations

[heady escarp]

?

like i have these

i can try somehow getting 82 and 83 from this bullshit lmao

dead elements

idk if they would even be useful if they were alive

[graceful marsh]

@echo wasp what was your Mr. Letter E recipe?

[echo wasp]

quite bad

[graceful marsh]

Quite

[echo wasp]

91 quoted
"83 91": #1206592567622373446 message

[heady escarp]

thanks but im trying to avoid string stuff rn

im trying to get 96 quoted and im kinda failing

[echo wasp]

my quoted 96 recipes

[heady escarp]

can u show a bit more detail to these

like which control + which control

[heady escarp]

also how do u get "..a

[echo wasp]

very simpler

[heady escarp]

nice how do u get the "Ã{83}{96}"

[echo wasp]

it was a joke

[heady escarp]

and also that other one

oh huh

[echo wasp]

goes offline

[heady escarp]

lol i got the single quoted version of that but not double one

[echo wasp]

uneven quotes

[heady escarp]

bro who let me cook

[echo wasp]

i dont see any 99/9c = no cook 🙂

[heady escarp]

hopefully something from here can be used to help me get 82 and 83

asd whats ur recipes for 82 and 83, and quoted 82 and 83

dont have any of those

[echo wasp]

shet

[heady escarp]

#1206592567622373446 message link for myself

i see string appends in that lineage lolol

yes i got 96 quoted gg

i cooked

[sand coral]

1881 and 1880

[echo wasp]

mandatory reminder that you only cook after getting 99 or 9c

why did this take so long

[heady escarp]

"–" U+0096

also showed recipe for unquoted version cuz yes

no string appends

only cooking here

[heady escarp]

bro i always cook

[echo wasp]

lies

[heady escarp]

bro u used string stuff to get quoted 96 so like

how is removing the strings not cooking

[echo wasp]

wasnt even intentional

lmao

[heady escarp]

like i did an optimisation here

[echo wasp]

idc about quoted so

[heady escarp]

well now it doesnt need strings

[echo wasp]

the 96 recipe isnt changing in the sheet tho

[glad roost]

Tbh if you're advanced enough to get control chars

[echo wasp]

just use strings

[glad roost]

You should have strings

[echo wasp]

exactly

[heady escarp]

oh i realised i somehow dont have u+0091 quoted

[echo wasp]

"somehow"

[heady escarp]

oh i mixedit up with 81

so yeah i dont have 91 quoted

bro i have "{88}{91}"

[echo wasp]

recipe for anyone who is uninterested

[abstract marsh]

as someone who's not interested in whatever that is
yeah thanks

[sand coral]

Without The Mr. and Without The Mr
because i can't find it anywhere
['.'](#1226511876733669436 message)

[heady escarp]

bro what is this just give me "{91}"

[abstract marsh]

cant search it, internet slow
will try find it later

[echo wasp]

stupid space

[heady escarp]

hey asd are u bored

[echo wasp]

why?

[heady escarp]

then revive this xdd

[echo wasp]

no

you do 99 and 9c and ill consider

[graceful marsh]

Obby, did 2SB do this with any other pairs other than "ej"?

Preferably those involving "r", "a", "b", or "s"

[heady escarp]

im pretty sure thats literally the only combination that gave that ae letter

[graceful marsh]

I was super wrong about 400-450 apparently

[echo wasp]

element decay chains

[heady escarp]

i mean a few times it gave other controls than 90 but the a letter didnt change unlike here

[echo wasp]

very unstable

[heady escarp]

actually it changed the letter here aswell

if thats what ur even asking

[graceful marsh]

No

[heady escarp]

then what are u asking

[graceful marsh]

Did any other combination make that specific result

[heady escarp]

well u can use the one on the right : troll :

but yeah its the only one that made it

[graceful marsh]

Oh my fucking god yes

Sub-300 Controls

[heady escarp]

?

dude theres no way

holy shit lmao

[echo wasp]

not that excited but nice

[heady escarp]

what is the main way to improve that number, do u think its a faster alternative to letter e with caron

[graceful marsh]

Probably

Hold on I just realised I made a minor mistake

[heady escarp]

ok i give up trying to get quoted 91 for now

[graceful marsh]

Not run-ending but it means an extra 10 steps

[heady escarp]

thats fine at least its not like 200 extra steps lol

[candid trellis]

Thanks

[heady escarp]

bro look what brent posted about u in out of context

[candid trellis]

Another possible victim of spine rearrangement

[graceful marsh]

256-step U+0090

[twin bay]

Underestimate not the power of [alphabet]

[glad roost]

holy hell

now controls are getting OPTIMISED

[graceful marsh]

Cripes

I'll add it in after I do the chain

[echo wasp]

urm, 80 and 9d arent

[split wraith]

i feel like there has to be a better way

surely its non-alt doable

[twin bay]

I repeat

[graceful marsh]

Dang

Is [u] + [u] [w]?

[graceful marsh]

Fuezt, would you be able to run columns 2 and 3 of the Really Losing Control sheet on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jN0gEzBddQFdZ8p-iYgLrMsGCctm1WzeB8CiujfsmIo/edit?gid=1954558195#gid=1954558195 through your validity checker?

Just to make sure

[split wraith]

17-step Caron

Fire + Water = Steam
Earth + Wind = Dust
Fire + Steam = Engine
Engine + Steam = Train
Train + Water = Submarine
Steam + Submarine = Captain Nemo
Captain Nemo + Dust = Nemo
Nemo + Wind = Finding Nemo
Earth + Finding Nemo = Pixar
Engine + Pixar = Cars // 10
Train + Train = Train Station
Train Station + Water = Boat
Boat + Train Station = Ferry
Boat + Earth = Island
Island + Ferry = Ferryman
Ferryman + Fire = Charon
Charon + Cars = Caron  // 17 :: 

[graceful marsh]

Yeah that was the original route

Using Char + Nile for Charon

[twin bay]

This should cut down about a bazillion steps

[graceful marsh]

What's Delete Hi?

[twin bay]

Delete Period + Hi

[abstract marsh]

banana

[graceful marsh]

And Woman from current route?

Also Remove The Mr. is used for the final unquote

[split wraith]

would U+0088 function the same as U+88?

like does it go for the same unicode?

[graceful marsh]

?

[split wraith]

the items

U+0088

and U+88

[graceful marsh]

I'm not sure what you're asking

[split wraith]

do they count as the same unicode?

[graceful marsh]

I... guess?

But in what sense?

[split wraith]

would the mbs tooltip show both as the same character?

[graceful marsh]

Oh yeah

But that's not what we're aiming for

[sand coral]

1E62

[twin bay]

How do I copy the correct character so it doesn't look like this?
"[/inst]" + � = "�"

[graceful marsh]

Ah fuck

Firefox right

[twin bay]

Ye

[untold crystal]

Why is is so hard to separate 9c from 80? or just to isolate 9c?

(control chars)

[twin bay]

I guess I just have to inspect

[echo wasp]

hehehe good luck

[twin bay]

177-step U+0090

I can probably shave another 20 steps with a route change, but I'm too tired to do it today

[graceful marsh]

Wahey

[heady escarp]

wtf

80 steps saved??

[graceful marsh]

By [spelling] most of the chains, seems like

• the Letter E With Caron part

[heady escarp]

what elements did u save steps getting

[graceful marsh]

Would you mind attaching the increment portion to the end, Eisern?

[twin bay]

The route change includes removing all removes (only copied correct char in last line) ```
"�" + Delete First Letter = "��"
"��" + Delete First Character = "�"
"�" + Delete The Quotation Marks = �
"" + Delete The Quotation Mark = 

[twin bay]

Increment portion?

[graceful marsh]

#1226511876733669436 message

You can get U+0088-0090 from the end

It'd be nice to have them all in the same lineage for the Controls sheet

But I could also just add a second message

[twin bay]

My brain is fried

I can't process it lol

[graceful marsh]

Would it be alright if I did it then

[pulsar island]

What is the script for the ctrls? That it shows {}

[twin bay]

Sure, I don't mind - I can take another look at it tomorrow, but I found this at least ```
Character + Delete Period = Character Deletion
"��" + Character Deletion = "ˆ"
"ˆ" + Delete The Quotation Marks = ˆ {88}

[graceful marsh]

Oh nice

Well that's mostly it really

Just that and adding

ˆ + "" = ‰ // 240 {89} ::
ˆ + ‰ = Š // 241 {8A} ::
Š + ˆ = ‹ // 242 {8B} ::
‹ + Š = Œ // 243 {8C} ::
Œ + ‹ =  // 244 {8D} ::
Œ +  = Ž // 245 {8E} ::
Ž +  =  // 246 {8F} :: 

to the end

[twin bay]

One moment

I got it

Also managed to save two steps by changing to Delete The Quotation Marks

I'll post it in AWWO

[spice lark]

anyony have 9d?

[graceful marsh]

.

[spice lark]

oof well that looks like fun

[heady escarp]

definitely

[graceful marsh]

Too bad you didn't ask for anything between 88 and 90

[spice lark]

how do i get enquoted 80 lmao

[heady escarp]

i have an insanely fast to get 9D in an element but the element is uhh.. SLIGHTLY cursed and also dead

[spice lark]

yeah im quite close

[heady escarp]

omg are u actually reviving it lol

[graceful marsh]

#1206592567622373446 message

[heady escarp]

lets goo

[spice lark]

it really wants to kill itself everytime though

[heady escarp]

if u do revive it we will need to try getting 9D out of this

[spice lark]

bruh im so lost

[tepid blaze]

wow

[spice lark]

i have no idea how to get 9d

how do i get enquoted 83

[heady escarp]

does just 83 + ["/inst"] or something similar not work

[spice lark]

i do not have 83

[heady escarp]

this is the link for 83 #1206592567622373446 message

[spice lark]

yeah if only i had jp quoted 81 💀

[graceful marsh]

Wanna run some 2sb on 88 and friends to see if it can restart the block?

[heady escarp]

ill try to make it rn

[heady escarp]

do u need recipe for quoted 81?

[spice lark]

yeah only control i have rn is 90

[heady escarp]

@spice lark

[graceful marsh]

Wait actually

That could definitely be incorporated into the run as well

[heady escarp]

do u also need recipe for that "Ã{90}" ?

[heady escarp]

ive sent a few lineages today using something like that as a base im pretty sure

[echo wasp]

81 isn't incrementable

[heady escarp]

so what i dont think we are talking about incrementing it

[echo wasp]

...am I trying to disprove anything? don't think so

[untold crystal]

Why is it not working as I hoped? shouldn't this mean that 80 is replaced by 90? or am I dumb

[graceful marsh]

From this all that would be required is 91 for an extra few

[echo wasp]

93 is 84 + PTIQM

90 + 93 = 91

[echo wasp]

yea, it is
80 is just very clingy

[heady escarp]

that PTIQM recipe was found by me btw

[graceful marsh]

Then the only stinger is 80

Dang

[echo wasp]

yea ik

and 9d

unless we found smth?

[heady escarp]

and 82

[graceful marsh]

Look here

[echo wasp]

92 and 94 actually aren't that bad

[graceful marsh]

For 82

Wait hold on I'm reading it wrong

[heady escarp]

i dont see 82 being crafted there, i only see it being used

lol i have 0 elements conaining 92

but i hvae 94 lemme check what recipe i used

[slate whale]

wtf???

[heady escarp]

U+0094 ☠️

[graceful marsh]

Does nothing else shift 81 except 80?

Oh nice

[heady escarp]

bro literally such a simple recipe xd

[heady escarp]

so we can get 93, 91. 94 easily

[spice lark]

recipe for 82?

[graceful marsh]

Not quite

Still need 84

[echo wasp]

92 would be easy if we have a good "the Mr. '<' "

[echo wasp]

#1206592567622373446 message

[spice lark]

thanks

[heady escarp]

@graceful marsh

[spice lark]

now how tf do i get 86

[graceful marsh]

Aha

[heady escarp]

but this lineage does use Without Last letter, Flip The Ordering and that ae letter in quotes

[heady escarp]

but its 2 extra characters if u follow the lineage

[graceful marsh]

ae is relatively simple I think because we already have IPA from [alphabet]

Are you certain that only Without Last Letter worked?

[heady escarp]

Alternative "a{81}{84}"

[heady escarp]

turns out i have this

without last letter not needed

[graceful marsh]

Thar she blows

Okay good, I already see a path

[split wraith]

what

[heady escarp]

wdym what

[split wraith]

is anything even changing

[heady escarp]

yeah do u see the tooltips

[split wraith]

i see that

[heady escarp]

the control characters dont render for me

but the control characters change

[split wraith]

but why are they all visually identical

[echo wasp]

81 + 84 = 85

[heady escarp]

cuz they dont render for me, theyre invisible for me

[echo wasp]

84 + 85 = 86
86 + 85 = 87
87 + 86 = 88

[heady escarp]

this is recipe for 81 i guess

requires flip the word ordering

[heady escarp]

like that letter ã isnt a control character, but the controls are after it

[slate whale]

any1 up to revive these

[echo wasp]

if it had 99 or 9c I'd do it 😭

[slate whale]

men

[echo wasp]

oh yeah make sure to include some of the original recipes in the sheet as a note :))

[graceful marsh]

No space

I'd rather not make every line three thick

[echo wasp]

huh why would a note take up sapce

[graceful marsh]

Oh as notes?

Eugh

[echo wasp]

#1206592567622373446 message

[graceful marsh]

I'll think about it

[heady escarp]

U+0095

do we have a good 94 yet

ik we have 8C

[echo wasp]

didn't u just send

[heady escarp]

bro idk i dont remember

when did i send 94 or 95

[graceful marsh]

Current chain of requirement

84 + PTIQM = 93
90 + 93 = 91
93 + Quotation Marks = 94
94 + 8C = 95

[heady escarp]

oh yeah i sent that

[heady escarp]

actually both quotation mark and quotation marks work lol

[slate whale]

these are just "Ð" plus letters

[graceful marsh]

Only one is in the current run though

[glad roost]

I'm joining the grind

[echo wasp]

grind?

[graceful marsh]

I mean yeah at this point it's throwing shit at the wall

Pi do you have [alphabet]?

[glad roost]

No

[graceful marsh]

Dang

[glad roost]

Wait

[heady escarp]

i do

[glad roost]

Why do i have it

[graceful marsh]

Combine them with controls, see what pops out

[heady escarp]

with which controls

just by themselves?

[graceful marsh]

All in the current run

And the mojibakes

[heady escarp]

bro i think i have hundreds of random mojibakes from 2sb

the word mojibakes doesnt narrow it down

[heady escarp]

can u remind me which ones are in the run

ill combine them with [alphabet] with 2sb

[graceful marsh]

Just look at the run

[glad roost]

84 + [a] = 85
84 + 85 = 86

[graceful marsh]

They're at the end

[heady escarp]

88, 89, 8A, 8B, 8C, 8D, 8E, 8F, what else

[echo wasp]

keep going to 87

[graceful marsh]

Ã90, "Ã90" and the ae one

Current chain of requirement

84 + [a] = 85
84 + 85 = 86
85 + 86 = 87
84 + PTIQM = 93
90 + 93 = 91
93 + Quotation Marks = 94
94 + 8C = 95
85 + 95 = 96

"ぐ" + [d] = "き"
81 90 81 8D

Well that's annoying

[heady escarp]

huh whats that 81 90 and 81 8D supposed to mean

[graceful marsh]

Labels

[heady escarp]

88, 89, 8A, 8B, 8C, 8D, 8E, 8F, 90, 84, 85, 86, 87, 91, 93, 94, 95

is that everything

in our current run

[graceful marsh]

Well technically current run is only 88-90 but sure

[heady escarp]

also sandu said hes fixing a bug with 2sb i cant run it yet

[alphabet] and anything else or just that?

[echo wasp]

88 + 95 = 96

[heady escarp]

88, 89, 8A, 8B, 8C, 8D, 8E, 8F, 90, 84, 85, 86, 87, 91, 93, 94, 95. 96

wait i should order it alphabetically

[glad roost]

anything should i add

[heady escarp]

84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 8A, 8B, 8C, 8D, 8E, 8F, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95. 96 (ordered alphabetically)

[heady escarp]

is it just all the controls i have listed rn

ik a few u need to add

[echo wasp]

he has 20

u listed 18

[glad roost]

oof

[echo wasp]

ㅐ ㅐ ㄹ

[glad roost]

removed 81/82

[heady escarp]

wait whats that ae element

[echo wasp]

æ

[heady escarp]

these right?

[graceful marsh]

What's the 91 one one from?

[heady escarp]

picube add these i think

[echo wasp]

91 1 1

[heady escarp]

its random idk lol

[graceful marsh]

Ah

[heady escarp]

wait u can also try to combine their quoted versions

[graceful marsh]

I mean considering we don't have 91 in the run yet, might be useful

[echo wasp]

no one goes for quoted controls

[graceful marsh]

For the run, ASD

[echo wasp]

no I'm saying

he wont have them

[heady escarp]

i have 2 recipes for 91

[heady escarp]

but ik u can get at least some of them by just combining with inst

[echo wasp]

First one was already shared no

[heady escarp]

also 91 is in this list i sent which is the list of elements in the run

[heady escarp]

or its at least list of easily obtainable elements

picube have u started running the 2sb yet?

[glad roost]

I started it

[echo wasp]

(honestly tho all im hoping for is 99 or 9c)

[heady escarp]

@glad roost have u added these to it before starting

[glad roost]

No, I think you should try it

[slate whale]

im trying to get anything with those lol

[glad roost]

And tbh i dont have these

[heady escarp]

ok