Unicode

[untold crystal]

啇

this

[echo wasp]

ok yeah the ai would def know what it means

[untold crystal]

what is it? for a non chinese speaking person

google translate translates it to wow

[echo wasp]

啇店 is shop/store

[chilly fulcrum]

oh i forgot some blocks heres an updated

[echo wasp]

I doubt the ai would translate to that

well

[graceful marsh]

Ideally CJK would only include that which is labelled CJK and no further, but this is less an issue of categorability as it is convenience

[echo wasp]

I'd ageee

agere

aegrge

[chilly fulcrum]

I just thought it was odd that like hiragana and katakana weren’t in cjk but it seems I’m alone xd

[graceful marsh]

The kana aren't part of the Unified set though

[trim pond]

see here, I reconsidered it, and I would put all from CJK Unified Ideographs (Han), CJK Compatibility Ideographs, Cjk Radicals / Kangxi Radicals (also ideographic description characters)

[chilly fulcrum]

when I took over, I actually did swap a few blocks around in these areas

[echo wasp]

the encircled ones def should be in tho

[trim pond]

i feel like not

[chilly fulcrum]

31xx and fxxx

[echo wasp]

they're literally labelled CJK

[chilly fulcrum]

I moved small presentation forms out of cjk

can’t remember what else

[echo wasp]

oh no that one 32ff would be gone 😭

[graceful marsh]

Wait why is Arabic PF in that list

[trim pond]

i wouldn't put symbols there. only scripts. and enclosed in circles are considered symbols, not from the actual script

[chilly fulcrum]

It’s just a list copied from fuezts thing that captures the fragmented areas

mainly 3xxx and fxxx

[echo wasp]

Punctuation is part of a script btw

lets ask gpt to decide

[chilly fulcrum]

and also kana extensions now I also added

“List all blocks that should be part of the cjk sheet”

clearly

[graceful marsh]

Enclosed feels reasonable to move to main

[echo wasp]

Though the characters are used primarily in CJK contexts, especially in East Asian typography, this block isn't limited to just Chinese, Japanese, or Korean writing systems. It is more of a supplemental block that supports various types of enclosed characters, some of which have applications beyond CJK languages.

So, while the "Enclosed CJK Letters and Months" block is associated with CJK, it is not necessarily considered CJK in the strict sense of being part of the core set of CJK characters.

[graceful marsh]

It's not explicitly Unified and fits in better with the other symbols

[chilly fulcrum]

Well yeah it’s not got cjk unified in the name

[graceful marsh]

Thanks GPT

If we wanted internal consistency, then we'd either move the Kana (and possibly Bopomofo) to the CJK sheet, or take enclosed to main

[chilly fulcrum]

but what if… I said nuh uh and moved everything related to cjk to cjk sheet

[graceful marsh]

I'm in favour of Kangxi remaining if only for size

[echo wasp]

thats more bs not getting done

[chilly fulcrum]

interesting to hear opinions, what about another option of like: since the name is cjk unified ideographs (although that’s by no means forced) - just only keep stuff that says cjk unified ideographs in it

or compatibility I guess

[echo wasp]

thats... not really a cjk section anymore

radicals are def part of cjk now that I think of it

punctuation

strokes

[chilly fulcrum]

I’m just considering sheet name with that idea - of course remember it’s really inconsequential

what about yijing

[graceful marsh]

Religious symbols, they stay in main

[chilly fulcrum]

they’re in cjk

lol

so they’d be moving in that case

[graceful marsh]

So they are

Oh it was Taixuanjing in main

[chilly fulcrum]

right now I feel more towards one of the two extremes

[echo wasp]

yea I don't get why they were even in CJK

[sand coral]

4200
lol not a fd

[chilly fulcrum]

either only the huge blocks that say cjk unified (and maybe a few others), or just everything related to cjk going there - some sort of in between seems inconsistent

[echo wasp]

everything part of the script goes there

[chilly fulcrum]

Also I am about to go to bed but I will ask please don’t change anything - only because any change requires me to change input tool code

[graceful marsh]

Fair enough

[echo wasp]

radicals, strokes, punctuation, etc

[graceful marsh]

Wouldn't be able to anyway, in the middle of quite the pickle

[chilly fulcrum]

the change is actually like only because the “this sheet contains” will change and now the starting row is different

I actually am kinda warming to the idea of like, removing enclosed and yijing and that being the only changes

[echo wasp]

exact

[chilly fulcrum]

although there might be a couple others

[echo wasp]

just don't change anything else

[graceful marsh]

Could someone screenshot the contains list?

[trim pond]

i feel like we should also remove the japanese puctuation 3000-303f then

[echo wasp]

what why

they are part of cjk

removing that is like removing the space bar

[trim pond]

i think it fits more with kana

[echo wasp]

。is used in chinese too

[chilly fulcrum]

the other extreme is to make it fit with kana by just moving kana over over but if you don’t want to rename sheet I wouldn’t do that (but can rename sheet I’m open to it)

[echo wasp]

the brackets as well

[chilly fulcrum]

or even another sheet like anything really

[echo wasp]

how about just not do any changes

[graceful marsh]

The block is labelled CJK Punctuation as well

[echo wasp]

I dont see anything wrong with the sheet rn

Armenian Small Ligature

[trim pond]

ok well then i'd be fine with what rubiks suggested last

[echo wasp]

(just that I'm mostly against unnecessary changes cuz "oh imo this shouldn't belong here")

[graceful marsh]

The mention of Yijing being in CJK is currently the only thing I think actually requires change

Enclosed symbols is iffy

[chilly fulcrum]

well yeah do remember of course this doesn’t actually matter

[sand coral]

4240

[graceful marsh]

Are you just like going forever

[chilly fulcrum]

lol any chance you can run my save file generation script

[chilly fulcrum]

It’s about to join up with asd chain

[graceful marsh]

What is this, Whatbeatsrock?

[chilly fulcrum]

although if you ever do get other entries do put those in - subjecting the user to incrementing through 4000 characters should not be encouraged

if it’s all we got that’s fine, just saying please don’t go “yeah but we have all 4xxx, this 4500 is useless”

[echo wasp]

time to find new entry lol

[chilly fulcrum]

can someone pull up my generation finder script? mobile moment I can’t search - but I’d like bergoros to try it (if his save is connected)

[echo wasp]

i would have with 4940 but i had to stop after 4dff

[untold crystal]

3540,3541

[chilly fulcrum]

Laurasia any progress on the auto updating of the progress stats you added?

that’s why I was doing this block check in the first place

[graceful marsh]

Nope

I was zonked last night and got like an hour of laptop time in before I couldn't take it anymore

[chilly fulcrum]

all good

also just may want to caveat blocks with characters believed impossible

[graceful marsh]

Yeah I've kept that in mind

My plan is a 3 column new sheet

4 column

[chilly fulcrum]

Although if you added a count for a more realistic depiction of effort involved then that could easily be taken care of

[graceful marsh]

Name, Count, Percentage, Notes

[chilly fulcrum]

A whole bunch of 0s may look a bit off

[chilly fulcrum]

is name, percentage, total, found, not found, impossible, notes too much? your decision I’m just making sure you’ve considered this

[graceful marsh]

Impossible seems like a problem for notes

Not found, found and total are effectively all restatements of a single x/y

[trim pond]

Next Hebrew Letter

[chilly fulcrum]

right, I’d like at least one of those though so that an accurate estimation of “effort required” is easy to infer from just looking at it

Could even like remove percent and only have “amount remaining” but I don’t want to play with the purpose you envisioned or overwhelm with ideas and confuse you - go with what you want the purpose to be of course

Your idea, so you get to choose

[trim pond]

happy emoji if 100%, sad if 0% etc?

jk

[graceful marsh]

There's a simple way of doing that with sheets actually

[untold crystal]

FDFE, FDFF

[echo wasp]

has anyone tried clearing the gaps in 23xx?

[sage wren]

yeah unfortunately cement didnt work

[echo wasp]

stupid ai

⠀

[trim pond]

Arabic Ligature Unicode, Unicode Arabic Ligature

nice. I saw this one-symbol gap, and as it turns out, nobody got both of the symbols and/or tried to increment it like this

[sand coral]

FC00

[trim pond]

wow nice

[sand coral]

Nice indeed

[abstract marsh]

yeah nice

[echo wasp]

69.6969%

[trim pond]

U+2a49

[graceful marsh]

Is U+6969 found?

[graceful marsh]

Dammit

And it uses an Std

[echo wasp]

i read it as And it uses an asd

[heady escarp]

it uses you

[graceful marsh]

You misread STD as yourself?

Incredible

[heady escarp]

do u at least get paid for getting used

or are u an unpaid slave for u+6969

[echo wasp]

the latter, sadly

[heady escarp]

😿

[trim pond]

does anyone have the recipe for Cyrillic Script? I can't find it here

if you do, can you post it

[sand coral]

Cyrillic Script

[trim pond]

Unicode Glagolitic, Glagolitic Unicode

[trim pond]

U+2d30

tifinagh is now 100% complete

Yi Syllable, Ethiopic Syllable, Ethiopic Syllable Unicode

Shavian Syllable, Ethiopic Syllabary, Ethiopic Unicode Syllabary

[heady escarp]

the last character of this element isnt on the sheet

how do i get rid of the first 2 characters?

[sand coral]

Try some of these

[heady escarp]

i actually got it

interesting that its not FD even tho its not on unicode sheet

[candid trellis]

wdym interesting? that happens a lot

[heady escarp]

U+4E1D 丝

very goofy recipe

[sand coral]

found a better recipe
屌丝 on browser

[heady escarp]

nice

i would have imagined that by now we would hve checked the browser for unicodes

also i got another one ill make the lineage

U+889C 袜

omg my second ever unicode FD!!

woooo

i combined 889C with some next codepoint thing to get it\

what the fuck omg

i got like multiple of the characters after it

im up to like 10 unicode FDs now

oh it stopped incrementing at 88AB

what do i do if it doesnt increment easily

ive seen some hi seq. strats in this channel and stuff

maybe i need to do that?

[sand coral]

Ideally try all of this first

[echo wasp]

nope

even I know what 被 means

its not gonna increment

[heady escarp]

i am combining it with all my elements that contain the Next

[echo wasp]

it won't increment

its a very common word

[heady escarp]

i got a horse emoji

from it lmao

laurasia moment

[heady escarp]

what does that have to do with not incrementing

but yeah it indeed didnt increment

[graceful marsh]

Common characters don't increment

They're more semantically bound to their meaning than their existence as a character

[heady escarp]

then what do i do

will the hi seq. strat work

[graceful marsh]

Probably not

You'll just end up making a word

[heady escarp]

probably not? thats different from definitely not

[graceful marsh]

Feel free to try

[heady escarp]

anyways from combining it with stuff it mostly gave random 4xxx or 5xxx unicodes

im assuming all of the ones i got are already on sheet but ill check them all anyways just in case

wait i got new FD

i mean it didnt really increment, it more so just jumped forwards a bit

does that happen commonly laurasia

like this is my recipe

it just skipped by several unicodes to forward

[graceful marsh]

I mean yeah

[heady escarp]

i also got 888D, thats not on sheet but also not an FD

[graceful marsh]

Semantic links once again

[heady escarp]

dude i wish i had some script that can like bruteforce all these unicodes together

wow 889C got that but also not on sheet

8882 also not on sheet

[echo wasp]

very common

cjk is very undocumented

[heady escarp]

oh another FD, 888E

[echo wasp]

uh what

4xxxx ?????

[heady escarp]

no i mean

not 4 x but 3 x

4xxx*

and 5xxx*

[echo wasp]

ah

[heady escarp]

ill edit my messge

[echo wasp]

obby broke thr world record for highest codpeoint char lol

[heady escarp]

(i didnt)

(i wrote the wrong thing)

ok why did i go from 888F to 8891

why didnt it give me 8890 bro

[echo wasp]

what is 8890

[heady escarp]

idk

random character i guess

would the hi seq. strat work with 888F to get 8890, ive never used that strat

[echo wasp]

ok well I dont recognise the chars (maybe cuz my chinese kinda sucks or it isnt chinese)

or its just obscure idk

[heady escarp]

oh nvm i got 8890 its simple to get

88B4 fd

[graceful marsh]

Are you commenting these perchance

[echo wasp]

Perchance.

You Can Just Say "perchance"

[heady escarp]

i have 8893, 8895, 8896 but not 8894 smh

damn i got 80F8 in a string

i got it in isolation now

[sand coral]

Next Tibetan Letter
sometimes it works when nothing else works

[heady escarp]

ill combine it with cjk characters, i expect to get nothing

[echo wasp]

Obbybigfast v2.0.0

Update Now

-# New features: Enhances Unicode Character crafting skills

[heady escarp]

yayyy new update

[spice lark]

whya re you updwtifn people

[heady escarp]

i am now a pro infinite unicode crafter!!

he is my software bug fixer

[echo wasp]

becuausuwu hwy nrto?

[heady escarp]

he fixed a bunch of bugs

[graceful marsh]

Eh... that's a few updates away

[heady escarp]

nooo

[spice lark]

reallw

[echo wasp]

you sitlttl nrn3ee to cleikd kthrl inkt

[spice lark]

nevere

[echo wasp]

yehs

[heady escarp]

what did i just get the swastika character

[echo wasp]

Obbybigfast v2.0.1

Update Now

-# New features: EFFECTIVE ONLY AFTER CLICKING LINK. Enhances Unicode crafting skills even more, and allows easy crafting of controls and PUAs, as well as undiscovered blocks

[lilac maple]

It's pu uoy evig annog reven (but in reverse)

[heady escarp]

U+56C1 囁

[glad roost]

Wait waht's std::

[echo wasp]

youcleiekekcihtkeibrkrm?

[heady escarp]

(incredibly crazy recipe) (3 am gone wrong)

[graceful marsh]

Category of disease

[abstract marsh]

what u mean Unicode In Unicode

[echo wasp]

PiCube v2.0.0

Update Now

-# New features: Enhances knowledge on coding and corrects typos

[sand coral]

it's from here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/124uuQb3icxH_D-qP8N934AKf4aJZx4MQpmPdz00siPk/edit#heading=h.848oscl61w1g

[candid trellis]

poseidon reference once again

[heady escarp]

got 73CD

[sand coral]

7EFB

[abstract marsh]

this is should be getting me to somewhere...

finally an FD ( yes it is unassigned unicode )

[heady escarp]

70E9 fd

[abstract marsh]

oh finally useful one

[pulsar island]

Congratsss

[abstract marsh]

another one
huh... im did not intend hunting hungarian unicode with nushu 💀

[graceful marsh]

Ooh

[heady escarp]

bro i am currently in like 10 different rabbit holes

[graceful marsh]

Hitting a 12 percenter there

How's the incrementation on that one? Should be a 64 sweep no?

Oh wait 63

[abstract marsh]

aight not that bad

[graceful marsh]

I hate 1d11e

[abstract marsh]

https://ib.zptr.cc/item/01j659ycw41d6pjw4q7rb2fwk1 : Nüshu In Unicode

i wanna switch to new codeblock but this area still having FD unicode is kinda annoying

alright, how do i make U+e020

[heady escarp]

have you tried harvesting the power of friendship

[abstract marsh]

alright will continue tomorrow :V

i thought i can get 16F40 with U+e040 + Nüshu In Unicode
turns out its not that easy

[heady escarp]

U+7099-U+70AB Next Codepoint chain

also u+7099 isnt on sheet yet so i gotta lineage that

oh god

this is what i see when i right click on u+7099

how am i supposed to know what any of these are \

[abstract marsh]

use mbs

[heady escarp]

yeah i am

[abstract marsh]

drag the element out of the recipes panel

[heady escarp]

..i cant do that??

since when does mbs let u do that

[abstract marsh]

quite a while already

[heady escarp]

i have mbs and i cant do that

[abstract marsh]

u can check #dev pinned github to download newer version of mbs

[graceful marsh]

Technically it's a helper patch

[heady escarp]

no i already have the newest version of mbs

[heady escarp]

where do i get it do u know?

oh and i also have a bunch of elements that consist of multiple unicode characters

and theres no way i will manually check all of them somehow to see if each character is on sheet or not, that would take hours

[abstract marsh]

check resources from the unicode sheet ?

[heady escarp]

U+7078-U+707F

[graceful marsh]

#1215495041049436170 message

Link is unstable so I'll link the link message

[heady escarp]

ty

U+70C2 烂

U+7097 炗

U+70D9 烙

U+7165 煥

[untold crystal]

17ca0-17cbf

[heady escarp]

U+7096 炖

[trim pond]

just so you know, I will be away for like 8/9 days and I won't probably be active

[heady escarp]

https://ib.zptr.cc/item/01j65gkeyqd4s33zzc60j735t9 U+70E9 烩

https://ib.zptr.cc/item/01j65gp121pnxdxnkjwkcvhr3n U+7099 炙

https://ib.zptr.cc/item/01j65gqadzf2bvsxr7byadfak2 U+7096 炖

i dont have the patience to build actual trees for them

[graceful marsh]

As long as you're commenting them we'll find them

And make trees ourselves if necessary

[heady escarp]

oh right i need to comment them

ok i commented them

also i definitely have at least 1 or more other unicodes that arent in the sheet, but idk how to find them

and i probably have a few unicodes in strings that arent on the sheet

is there a script that can find all the unicodes i have that arent on the sheet?

[pulsar island]

u+0457

[pulsar island]

u+0499
bashkir translator is "01the etc etc"

u+049b

kazakh translator is 01the wtc as well

[graceful marsh]

May still need lineage

Every tool is recorded for use

[sonic heart]

0d31

[pulsar island]

tada 1 - bashkir translator

[graceful marsh]

Same with Kazakh but nice

Also label your lineages

Oh Tada 1

[sonic heart]

0d33

[heady escarp]

that looks like amogus

amogus with tail

[pulsar island]

tada 2 - Kazakh Translator

[pulsar island]

wdym label

[graceful marsh]

As in put the name of the thing in your message

[pulsar island]

ohhh ok

[graceful marsh]

Like Kazakh Translator
[Image]

Thank you very much

[trim pond]

Translate To Skolt Sami

[pulsar island]

npnp

[trim pond]

U+02b9 - Without First works also insted of Remove("a")

does anyone have alive lowercase ǩ and/or õ? (not the character itself)

[heady escarp]

wdym by alive lowercase ǩ

[graceful marsh]

One of them is used in like two languages

But you can ask Niko for the other one

[heady escarp]

ǩ is alive

[trim pond]

i am trying to make Sääʹmǩiõll which should mean Skolt Sámi, I want to translate words that begin with U+020a ( Ȋ )

[heady escarp]

but wdym by "not the character itself"

[trim pond]

exactly what it says

[heady escarp]

i dont understand

how can we revive a character but not the character itself

[trim pond]

i just want to append it to a ward and if I use the uppercase version then it appends an uppercase letter and the resulting element is dead

[trim pond]

maybe I phrased it bad, but I just want any alive elements that contain those in lowercase

[thin warren]

do any of you guys know how to get an alive unicode character in caps

for example "ғ"

since it has a capital alternative im not sure how to get it alive

[trim pond]

yeah, i don't know

[chilly fulcrum]

usually with a translation right?

[heady escarp]

wouldnt "ғ" revive the uppercase version then?

[thin warren]

correct

thats the part im asking about

[graceful marsh]

A Mr. Append into String.append(" ")?

[trim pond]

that would still apend the uppercase version

[chilly fulcrum]

omg wtf the sun looks like an actual disc through this fog

cannot remember the last time it was foggy

[graceful marsh]

Not if it maintains the space

" {char}" and the like

[thin warren]

how would you go lowercase from " Ғ" then?

[graceful marsh]

Wait what do you want?

[chilly fulcrum]

literally looks like a white circle just suspended in the sky

[thin warren]

"ғ"

[graceful marsh]

Oh

[thin warren]

lowercase verssion

[graceful marsh]

Literally just quoting it

[trim pond]

i tried this ( i possibly skipped some combinations) to get the uppercase Ȋ at the start

[chilly fulcrum]

what was the results

[graceful marsh]

Translation then deletes

[trim pond]

it didn't translate into anything that was close to the word I was aiming for. the word suggestions are from chatgpt

[thin warren]

cause like i have this but i dont know how to delete the space and go to lowercase at the same time

[graceful marsh]

Try Bashkir translation on "tree"

[graceful marsh]

Meow made a lineage for the former

Maybe "fat"?

[heady escarp]

im trying to get "ǩ" but i only have the uppercase version in quotes

[pulsar island]

do you want me to check for you?

[graceful marsh]

Less characters but you have two options depending on noun or adjective

[heady escarp]

what strategies are used to do this stuff

[graceful marsh]

Would be nice

^ This is to Meow

[pulsar island]

this is from tree

fat gave nothing

[graceful marsh]

What

Can you copy that text

[pulsar island]

how do i do that

[graceful marsh]

Uh

Ctrl + shift + I, select the box

Or check console

Wait no need

Found it

[pulsar island]

""көй"": [
[
{
"text": ""tree"",
"emoji": "🌳"
},
{
"text": "Bashkir Translator",
"emoji": "🇷🇺"
}
]
],

i exorted and copied

[graceful marsh]

Fair enough

[chilly fulcrum]

huh? since when could you inspect and click the box

[graceful marsh]

Why did it translate Tatar?

[chilly fulcrum]

i always have to dig for the actual instance

[graceful marsh]

How about on "river"?

Or "rain"?

[pulsar island]

river gave np

[graceful marsh]

Feckin hell

Okay we're switching this up then

You got a Kazakh Translator?

[pulsar island]

rain gave a special i

[pulsar island]

yeah

[graceful marsh]

On "tree", please

[graceful marsh]

Pissant

Moon?

Really?

[heady escarp]

google

[graceful marsh]

"dry", and if that doesn't work I'm taking matters into my own hands

[pulsar island]

didnt work

[heady escarp]

wait whats going on

[graceful marsh]

Dammit

[heady escarp]

also are there any strategies to quoting lowercase letters

[pulsar island]

didnt work

[graceful marsh]

No that was me complaining about the Kazakh Moon

[graceful marsh]

This

Moon wouldn't have worked anyway

[pulsar island]

didnt work

[pulsar island]

oh lol

[pulsar island]

yeah it gave this

dry gave it

[graceful marsh]

What the hell

Okay

I'm literally running out of languages

To Tajikistan I go

[sonic heart]

can you send the lineage for translate to skolt sami

[tepid blaze]

damn, ~500 like yesterday (even if it take 4min to verify it all i still wasn't expecting to see that much thing)

[pulsar island]

i have those

[graceful marsh]

Tajikistan does not work

[graceful marsh]

#1206592567622373446 message

[sonic heart]

ah

[pulsar island]

what letter is he trying to get again

[graceful marsh]

"ғ"

[pulsar island]

what unocode is this

[graceful marsh]

493

[heady escarp]

can someone also help get "ǩ" alfo asked for it in revival channel

[pulsar island]

okk tyyy

ill ask chat gpt

[graceful marsh]

It's used in two languages and one of them Alfo already has

[heady escarp]

when i combine the letter by itself with anything it just always gives something with its uppercase version

[graceful marsh]

Oh you're trying the direct method

May I recommend Prepend Hashtag Lowercase?

[heady escarp]

how my board looks like, im just combining it with rnadom things

[heady escarp]

is that in discord search imma check

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah of course it will

[sonic heart]

this one + prepend mr. + something else?

[heady escarp]

what

[chilly fulcrum]

the letter by itself literally is the uppercase version

you need it quoted or tagged

[heady escarp]

yes i so i need the lowercase version in quotes

to revive it

[chilly fulcrum]

combining the uppercase version of the letter therefore isnt gonna help

cause the lowercase becomes the uppercase when fed into the ai

[heady escarp]

dont lowercase/uppercase versions get treated the same in combinations

[chilly fulcrum]

yes they do

[heady escarp]

so wdym "combining the uppercase version of the letter therefore isnt gonna help"

[chilly fulcrum]

well you said combining the letter itself with stuff only gave uppercase version

which is exactly what you should expect

do you see that or not? i can explain more

[heady escarp]

yeah

so i want to figure out how to get the lowercase version in quotes

[chilly fulcrum]

well, just a hint that combining the letter itself is very unlikely to work

do you see why?

[heady escarp]

ok then how would i do it

[chilly fulcrum]

youd likely have to get a translation then a delete or something

or if you manage to append it like "a X"

[chilly fulcrum]

then theres a small chance you can prepend hashtag lowercase or prepend hashtag space or something

[heady escarp]

yeah i am making prepend hashtag lowercase rn

[chilly fulcrum]

nushu in unicode wtf

[sonic heart]

oh oops

fixed 0d61

[trim pond]

wait a minute

[graceful marsh]

Glowy c'mon now

[sonic heart]

i got it already dw

[trim pond]

ok

[graceful marsh]

Hm

Fuezt would it be possible to link your data directly into a spreadsheet?

[chilly fulcrum]

i think a db is technically batter

like browser isnt a spreadsheet

[graceful marsh]

Not the entire thing

Specifically the percentage data

And counts

[sonic heart]

where is the i with inverted breve

[graceful marsh]

No the Skolt was for the K no?

[sonic heart]

oh

[graceful marsh]

Wait what was Alfo doing

Ȋ is used in Serbo-Croatian but barely

[graceful marsh]

ChatGPT is lying

Like it usually does

[trim pond]

😦

[sonic heart]

bruhh

[graceful marsh]

Don't trust it on languages with less than 50000 speakers

Or any languages for that matter (for official/important stuff)

[trim pond]

well at least I got 02b9

[graceful marsh]

It's not and will never be trained for that

[heady escarp]

i got prepend hashtag lowercase, how do i use it for "ǩ"

[graceful marsh]

Use it on the capital

It'll make it an MBS exclusive though

Should it work

[heady escarp]

well i combined it with only the letter and it didnt even make anything

i also tried with "d Ǩ" but thats also not helpful

[graceful marsh]

Then it doesn't work

Translation time I suppose

I'll get the Laz

[heady escarp]

like i got #d Ǩ but how will that help me

[graceful marsh]

Well it doesn't

[chilly fulcrum]

could try “k” + prepend breve or something

[heady escarp]

in fact i only have 1 element with lowercase ǩ and thats just ǩ by itself with recipe listed on unicode sheet

every single other combination ive made with this letter only contains the uppercase version

[pulsar island]

what unicode num is that?

[graceful marsh]

Oh fucking hell you're kidding me

Well that's not gonna work

[heady escarp]

that just makes a completely different one lol

[heady escarp]

im trying to get the 01E9 character into quotes

i have its uppercase version in quotes

[chilly fulcrum]

prepend inverted breve then

[heady escarp]

ill try to get that

[sonic heart]

the game just likes to fuck with people sometimes

[echo wasp]

wdym it is very clearly an inverted breve

[graceful marsh]

Hmph

Actually

[heady escarp]

lol just got FD on that

[echo wasp]

I think I have it in quotes

nvm different codepoint

[heady escarp]

i just checked it and its dead

maybe i should submit this to AWWM

[sonic heart]

i got an i with combining inverted breve does that count for the sheet

[graceful marsh]

Maybe we can put it in the impostor Unicode sheet

[sonic heart]

i got it out of quotes

is there any way to merge the two characters lol

wow guys i got 020a and 020e no way

[heady escarp]

🙀

[tepid blaze]

hell ;-;

[chilly fulcrum]

what was alfo even trying to do there

[chilly fulcrum]

how did you get? also idk how but radu managed to get an actual char by using combining chars, no idea how. using like add letter x or something, i totally forgot

[graceful marsh]

Trying to combine all the long Unicodes into one

[tepid blaze]

i was thinking about getting it and try to do a chain from it, but now that i see the recipe 💀

[graceful marsh]

It's not that bad

Hell the first one is optimised

[sonic heart]

"hi mr. i" + quoted combining inverted breve

[graceful marsh]

Second one you gotta increment IIRC but that shouldn't be an issue

[sonic heart]

wait

[sonic heart]

this + delete the y

[tepid blaze]

still very long and annoying but yeah, just said hell cause this thing is stupidly long in comparison to everything else i have in private use area sheet, most are just arabic unicode/unicode arabic + random codepoint

[graceful marsh]

Fair enough

By the way

Did you happen to record the start and end rows of the different blocks in the sheet in your DB

Or does it base the counts off the full Unicode set, unassigned as well?

[sonic heart]

ile with inverted breve...?

[chilly fulcrum]

ewwww did we even put in U+0361 yet?

[sonic heart]

it is in the sheet

but the lineage is absolutely fucking atroceous

[graceful marsh]

Never occurred to me that the expletive placed in the middle of a phrase like that sounds so strange

[sonic heart]

?

[tepid blaze]

in what way?

[graceful marsh]

Like automatically have the percentages and counts for each block update on a sheet

Doesn't need to be main Unicode sheet, we can extract data from wherever

[tepid blaze]

what would be the best way for you?

[graceful marsh]

Eh...

Basically the text file you sent earlier but in sheet form and with x/y data as well

[sonic heart]

💀

[tepid blaze]

so like that by exemple https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Iz4A4O7wPxPHaCH_Q89C7gyMuMjJb_uw8qMXHIpvt7I/edit?usp=sharing ?

[graceful marsh]

Yep

Raw numbers too if possible but

[echo wasp]

doesn't matter

it's quite hard

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm fuezt how does it work? like does it output a new sheet every time it updates?

[tepid blaze]

well for the moment i update it manually be re importing each time a updated csv

[chilly fulcrum]

adjective expletive adjective

hmm

[night dragon]

eesh

U+56A2-3, U+5266, U+5268, U+57B2-F

[chilly fulcrum]

cool

we got some cjk comments let me see

[abstract marsh]

rubik
since i had Nüshu In Unicode
i wonder if i can do that for other <name> In Unicode as well...
will try later 👀

[chilly fulcrum]

how did you get it

I can try

[abstract marsh]

#1206592567622373446 message

[chilly fulcrum]

16fxx classic

that’s like the classic “high non cjk language generic idk lazy response”

[abstract marsh]

cant get beyond 16f3f 😭

[chilly fulcrum]

Are they not found?

[abstract marsh]

16f40 nope iirc

might need to use the forced increment or smth u guys doing lately

[abstract marsh]

wtf is my venus recipe 💀

[chilly fulcrum]

i have hundreds of recipe for 16fxx stuff

[chilly fulcrum]

wouldnt be surprised if browser just ignored your good one

[abstract marsh]

tried optimizer, it indeed missed that one

[chilly fulcrum]

what optimiser

[abstract marsh]

infinibrowser's optimizer tool

[chilly fulcrum]

That doesn’t use things from your file

That uses things from browser

[abstract marsh]

yeah thats what i wanted it to do 😭

[tepid blaze]

look like i got 5 old hungarian letter and 2 CJK with it for the moment (in fd, and also a unnasigned)

[abstract marsh]

it giving unassigned is expected since i got alot too
but cjk is interesting
( yes in FD )

[tepid blaze]

got 5A34 and 5A00 for CJK

[abstract marsh]

if this tools works really well, i might want to try hunt other <name> In Unicode

[tepid blaze]

that what i got that wasn't isn't in the sheet yet (for the moment)

[abstract marsh]

completing hungarian capital letter... i wonder how far can we achieve
and still no small letter?

[chilly fulcrum]

How’d you get them

@trim pond wtf lmao back to back behaviour ive never seen

[lethal nymph]

@‪laurasia

[chilly fulcrum]

alfo cause i was trying mayek meetei

it was left out of lineage and i didnt want to append every letter so i tried to not do that

[untold crystal]

u+200f

[chilly fulcrum]

oh, what range you testing now

[echo wasp]

very random indeed

[chilly fulcrum]

havent thought of anything good to test recently

so i havent really beein doing much

[echo wasp]

but why ping him...

[untold crystal]

nothing, just wanted to try getting the 020f char

[chilly fulcrum]

lol ok

i dont actually have U+020f i think cause i got tilted that i couldnt increment 020a (seriously i hate this 'update')

[untold crystal]

use this. it works good at incrementing

[abstract marsh]

time to use it on codeblock thats resistant with increment 💀

[chilly fulcrum]

i dont have it, only next random unicode value lol

its so insane its happy to append "Append V" to hi mr

but not the letter v

[tepid blaze]

tf💀

[abstract marsh]

lmao

[lethal nymph]

unicode manifestation of cloudflare

[tepid blaze]

fr

[abstract marsh]

alright

[echo wasp]

???

also (NEW) (FIRST DISCOVERY)

[chilly fulcrum]

💀 recipe:
‏ + Repeat 100 Times = ‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏‏

cant quote it or get it to do literally anything

[abstract marsh]

wtf rtl

[chilly fulcrum]

semantic!!!

@final sable o.o nice

[echo wasp]

omfg fd on u+fffd!!!

btw this isnt legit i cheated in the two elements that i used on mobile to get 0097 in a string

we still dk how to get Mr. Ž€’Ž€”Ž€ or Mr. Ž€”Ž€™

fd on " and ""

[untold crystal]

I don't like this as it's not a block start...

[echo wasp]

(they were gotten legitimately but lost recipe)

nice codepoints

[untold crystal]

normal codepoints won't give anything in the 18xxx region. So I'm trying exotic codepoints

also without success

[echo wasp]

yep as expected impossible to remove the 80

[chilly fulcrum]

well, exotic tools too

idk how much of your time you spent making tool v hunting

[abstract marsh]

what if i just keep producing tools with whatever i had 💀

[chilly fulcrum]

scared that adding a space to "i Mr. Tangut Ideographic" is fd

like, what else do you do there other than add a space

[echo wasp]

like, did you think he couldnt have removed a mr. first

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean, i tried excessively

didnt work

removed the hi as well

(no i am not using remove the word 'mr.')

[echo wasp]

bluds allergic to bad lineages

[chilly fulcrum]

is there a problem with that

[abstract marsh]

imagine 100+step just for getting Venus

[chilly fulcrum]

ideographic unicode is fd... hmm

[echo wasp]

Allergy is not a joke.

[untold crystal]

This was my

[chilly fulcrum]

i see, no mr

quoted ideograph if you can please?

[abstract marsh]

doesnt look like any FD here.. imma try other codeblock then

[untold crystal]

sorry for this mess

[trim pond]

Meetei, Mayek

[chilly fulcrum]

i got to mayek alright

in the end

although it was surprisingly hard to make meet quoted fsr

ty

[abstract marsh]

💀

[echo wasp]

cedilla has a mom!

[chilly fulcrum]

damn..

[chilly fulcrum]

can you update your message to link this - i am about to drop dome new finds with this stuff lol

[trim pond]

k

[chilly fulcrum]

ty

[abstract marsh]

aight

[abstract marsh]

mb,
fixed 3, removed 1

[chilly fulcrum]

imagine if instead of chr() being banned, fromcharcode was banned

that would be a huge emergency

[lethal nymph]

wait have we checked (string.)fromcharcode with parentheses

[chilly fulcrum]

not banned

although i only have the string. version

109c0-109ff

meroitic done

oh, a lot more new finds recently than i thought

tf

we have 0% here but like, lol the way they cut those chars off

we have nothing in high 2dxx interesting

[abstract marsh]

i think the ai do a little bit of trolling

[chilly fulcrum]

f

[glad roost]

lol

[chilly fulcrum]

now we got em all

[abstract marsh]

we're going to space with this one 💀

well...
The Unicode In Ideograph

yoo, it worked

[tepid blaze]

664 now (even if technically i would need to remove PUA's (since i plan on adding them to my main db) from the count to have actual number of just unnasigned/invalid character )

[chilly fulcrum]

for what

[slate whale]

are these real or

[graceful marsh]

No balls label

They are combining chars

[slate whale]

oh right he has mbs

no codepoint shown

[echo wasp]

I have a few PUAs, might run a script to see what I have later

wait didnt mean to ping sry

[graceful marsh]

What a monster

[graceful marsh]

Why would you ping someone like that

You could kill them!

[echo wasp]

Oh no fuezt don't die

I think he's dead 😭

[heady escarp]

his last words were about how he would go to hell after dying

what an unfortunate fate 😭

[echo wasp]

His last words were 664 now (even if technically i would need to remove PUA's (since i plan on adding them to my main db) from the count to have actual number of just unnasigned/invalid character )

Was just playing around with unicodes and just suddenly died

RIP fuezt 🪦

[graceful marsh]

This could happen to anyone

[heady escarp]

his last word was character

[echo wasp]

@heady escarp

[heady escarp]

@echo wasp

[graceful marsh]

Holy shit what the fuck dude

[echo wasp]

dies

[chilly fulcrum]

not wrong

[echo wasp]

@chilly fulcrums

uh

aaa

[echo wasp]

oby failed to kil me

[heady escarp]

now combine u+e0001 with u+e0002

[echo wasp]

combine U+110000 with U+10ffff

[chilly fulcrum]

i did already, these are practically un incrementable

im string building every one

[echo wasp]

he wasn't even telling you to increment

[heady escarp]

try combining the codepoints of random unicodes we dont have

[echo wasp]

('⌣')

I think someone has a tag character in a string

perchance

[chilly fulcrum]

by this logic surely e007f makes del, clueless

[echo wasp]

then do it

[chilly fulcrum]

i am suffering immensely right now just going through e004x

just got

f+l+o+w+e+r

what

F+l+o+w+e+r

D+o+g

[pulsar island]

https://tenor.com/view/sbings-sbingsofcourse-dog-sad-side-eye-gif-15962390920103554563

[echo wasp]

Hi suffering immensely right now just going through e004x, I'm asd

[abstract marsh]

me dying looking at chatbot being worse than me in optimizing certain code

[chilly fulcrum]

oof

@graceful marsh is there a reason you used CONCATENATE() instead of the shorthand & operator?

in the experimental table

[graceful marsh]

I prefer it

It's easier for me at a glance to see mistakes

But the experimental table is no longer needed now that we have Fuezt's sheet proper anyway

[echo wasp]

very sadly he's dead 😭

[chilly fulcrum]

wait wha

[echo wasp]

After I pinged him

[chilly fulcrum]

so how does this work?

[graceful marsh]

Now it's just a matter for linked sheets

Although now I think about it Fuezt's DB doesn't update automatically

Whoops

That's an important detail

[chilly fulcrum]

its "auto" in that its daily

[graceful marsh]

True

Still, %s not updating might be a tad unsatisfying if you've just slammed a block

Honestly I'm just avoiding the fact that I most likely need to input each block manually

Unless you have a record of block start and end row numbers lying around somewhere

[chilly fulcrum]

i dont, but that doesnt mean code cant be made to determine this

fuezt could do it with the data in his db when he pulls the sheets

he has range start and end data, now just need to find first char in block row num, and last char in block row num

but yeah

ive removed like 3 blocks so far

no upate D:

[sand coral]

do we have a good lineage for Remove The First Word? I can't find any

[echo wasp]

stupid

[candid trellis]

can't wait to get that tile in scrabble 🥰

[echo wasp]

crazy tile lol

probably worth like 15 points

[chilly fulcrum]

imagine some guy plays a blank tile and claims its that letter

[graceful marsh]

I mean it's not like diacritic Scrabble is novel

Spanish Scrabble has Ñ

[echo wasp]

his opponenet decides to challenge it but can't type it into the word checker

[sonic heart]

im tempted to just put 020a in awwm

[echo wasp]

do it.

[graceful marsh]

What character is that by the way?

[echo wasp]

ȫ

rarely used

[graceful marsh]

It's used in scientific spelling of Middle Low German and also Late Middle High German, where it indicates a long [øː] arisen from short [ø] through open-syllable lengthening. An example would Middle Low German "kȫken" (kitchen), Late Middle High German "hȫle" (cave). In reality these would usually have been written "koken, hole". So both the umlaut and the macron are learned additions.

Incredible

Literally no standard use

[sonic heart]

done

[lethal nymph]

banned

[sonic heart]

why

lol

[graceful marsh]

Samantha said so

[echo wasp]

yeah samantha why so mean

[sand coral]

Remove The First Word
for this #1206592567622373446 message
nothing else removes the first character

[echo wasp]

who on earth got fd

[heady escarp]

this is the lineage i have for remove the first word, its also pretty bad

[graceful marsh]

Anyone want to make Transform To Precomposed for these ones? /j

[heady escarp]

i can try to make that

[echo wasp]

do we have anything with them

[sonic heart]

i dont think so

i know i dont

[chilly fulcrum]

make Convert To NFC

if you want an abbreviated way

NFC = compose everything you can

[graceful marsh]

Well if Shift worked I'm not completely hopeless

[chilly fulcrum]

radu somehow used combining chars to actually get the letter which is kinda crazy, although in a dead element

shift?

[echo wasp]

it keeps scamming me

[graceful marsh]

The mojibake generators

[chilly fulcrum]

irst lmao

[chilly fulcrum]

shift-jis? ah ok

[graceful marsh]

Problem is inverted breve isn't used anywhere properly

I doubt Llama was trained on Slavicist Serbo-Croatian text

[echo wasp]

another scam

[graceful marsh]

Wait what are you doing ASD?

[echo wasp]

according to chatgpt romanian words have that

[graceful marsh]

They do not

[echo wasp]

yeah im starting to think so

00ee

[graceful marsh]

Oo

I look just like Buddy Holly

Anyway

You'd have better luck getting them through codepoint bullshit than by translation

One thing I wanted to try but never got around to doing is making ! Print The Character U

[chilly fulcrum]

bruh

[echo wasp]

omg

(im joking)

[sonic heart]

0263

[echo wasp]

wait me dumb

[slate whale]

i got scammed the same way

[sonic heart]

💀 thats a normal breve

[echo wasp]

ik

momentary brain death

[sonic heart]

at least make it believable smh

[echo wasp]

bro i forgot

[chilly fulcrum]

??

[sonic heart]

lmao

[echo wasp]

omg crazy fd

[sonic heart]

wow no way

[echo wasp]

breve + acute

[chilly fulcrum]

combining for both?

what you trying rn

[slate whale]

bruh'

[echo wasp]

idk i just want to make more string.append('unicodes')

idk what to try tho

like what char

[slate whale]

2214

[chilly fulcrum]

ah yes

[chilly fulcrum]

?? i havent seen that in the wild before

what made it

[echo wasp]

very cirrect

[untold crystal]

I already have it, if you want a recipe for it

[sonic heart]

👍

also

[chilly fulcrum]

i got it already, probably about 300 step browser actually but sure id love to see all you guys ones

[sonic heart]

lmao

[echo wasp]

shouldve said sth like 205f lol

[chilly fulcrum]

losing it

[sonic heart]

lmfao

[chilly fulcrum]

i do want to search for it

but since all the accents

not easy

oh well

[sonic heart]

why tho

[heady escarp]

Transform To Precomposed

[echo wasp]

he asked for it

[heady escarp]

i dont know what its even supposed to do i just made this cuz laurasia mentioned it

[echo wasp]

you ask for it, and you'll receive it...

[heady escarp]

also i tried my best to not use any string.appends and i succeeded

[sonic heart]

ok make Ȋ

[echo wasp]

(unless its like Training Support Department "thanK you aIMee" fReeStyLE Prefecture)

[heady escarp]

should i also make Convert To Nfc since rubiks mentioned it

[echo wasp]

request denied

[heady escarp]

also how do u even use this

[sonic heart]

why

[echo wasp]

only accepting string.append requests.
also no unobtained letters allowed

[chilly fulcrum]

so, like how far down the line was mr. curly and removing first char, etc etc

[heady escarp]

@chilly fulcrum what would Convert To Nfc do

[echo wasp]

1st try, since i had it work with smile, so why not try again

[heady escarp]

since u mentioned it

i can make it

[echo wasp]

for curlying it then 2nd

[sonic heart]

ok make String.append('ʺ')

[echo wasp]

it has an amazing recipe lol

alright ill try

[sonic heart]

have fun getting it in quotes

[chilly fulcrum]

amega...

[sonic heart]

lmao

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean that is an inverted breve right

progress?

[echo wasp]

ik its gonna be torture

[sonic heart]

nah lol

[chilly fulcrum]

o mega

[heady escarp]

o mega when o (opposite of mega) walks into the room

[chilly fulcrum]

now it is convinced to just swap out the first letter randomly

since its no longer omega

[sonic heart]

do it

[heady escarp]

Įmega

thats crazy bro

[sonic heart]

its gonna be really funny if thats how you get it

[candid trellis]

Nice. Found a specific one. Was in a part where (almost) everything else was filled in near it

[heady escarp]

congrats

[sonic heart]

combine Įmega with Ȃmega 👍👍

[candid trellis]

I'll try running the script again

#1206592567622373446 message

do I just need to run this without downloading anything now?

[echo wasp]

bro wtf i cant tell it apart from a regular quote

[sonic heart]

yeahhhhhh

have fun :))

[echo wasp]

crazy new fd

[heady escarp]

🙀

[chilly fulcrum]

possibly, depends if you have requests installed with python

the readme in the repo has fairly detailed instructions

[candid trellis]

did pip install and it did its thing, but when I try to run it again, it says module requests not found still

I'll try running the manual one

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah that happens if theres like multiple python versions or whetever

or its looking somewhere else for the module

to where it got put

run it from the command line inside your most recent python folder and call it with like python -m pip install requests

or python[vernumber].exe -m pip install requests (iirc??)

[heady escarp]

lol got random unicode FD

how do u call those unicodes that have numbers in them, are they unassigned unicodes?

[echo wasp]

bro what the fuck

stupid quote

[candid trellis]

CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-6C0C 6C0C 氌
CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-6DEC 6DEC 淬
CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-20D7C 20D7C 𠵼
TIBETAN CANTILLATION SIGN HEAVY BEAT 0FC0 ࿀
DESERET CAPITAL LETTER SHORT O 1040A 𐐊
VITHKUQI CAPITAL LETTER EI 10577 𐕷

[heady escarp]

so i got this FD but in the unicode sheet it only goes up to 115DD

is it just in a different tab

[candid trellis]

Do I send browser lineages of each?

[heady escarp]

why would this random character not be on the sheet

[chilly fulcrum]

rip

[heady escarp]

is it one of those private use characters or something?

[chilly fulcrum]

cause it’s not a character

[echo wasp]

this one sucked

[heady escarp]

it says U+115ED, how is it not a character

[echo wasp]

unassigned

its a char

but nothing assigned to it

[heady escarp]

so its not on the sheet

[candid trellis]

U+115ED UNICODE CODE POINT 115ED
Age Unassigned

General Category Unassigned

[heady escarp]

do we have a sheet for unassigned characters

[candid trellis]

there was I think?

[heady escarp]

ill combine it with next codepoint until it stops working

[candid trellis]

??

[echo wasp]

@sonic heart tysm for torture

[heady escarp]

is 02ba just slightlydifferent quotes

[chilly fulcrum]

browser? Well you could

[echo wasp]

idet its a quote :/

[chilly fulcrum]

or just go back as far as you think is reasonable

[heady escarp]

do you care if we send lineages through browser or ingame screenshots? or does it not matter

[candid trellis]

CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-6C0C 6C0C 氌

[sonic heart]

youre welcome!

[echo wasp]

are there even worse ones

i meant better* ones

[candid trellis]

CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-6DEC 6DEC 淬

[sonic heart]

i dont think so

[candid trellis]

CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-20D7C 20D7C 𠵼

[echo wasp]

Phew

[sonic heart]

i tried a bit ago to delete the first character from this but just couldnt lol

[candid trellis]

TIBETAN CANTILLATION SIGN HEAVY BEAT 0FC0 ࿀
💀

[sonic heart]

(the combining diaeresis isnt on the sheet)

[echo wasp]

why do you have smile with it

[chilly fulcrum]

as long as the info is there and we can send a link it’s fine

[candid trellis]

DESERET CAPITAL LETTER SHORT O 1040A 𐐊

[sonic heart]

idfk

[sonic heart]

oh wow

[echo wasp]

i just so happened to have .append('smile')

chaingging it to replace rn lol

[candid trellis]

VITHKUQI CAPITAL LETTER EI 10577 𐕷
🗿

[echo wasp]

🗿

[abstract marsh]

very weird recipes

[sonic heart]

why

[heady escarp]

does anyone know why it doesnt let me increment 115FF? (unassigned char)

[candid trellis]

My unicode additions
#1206592567622373446 message
#1206592567622373446 message
#1206592567622373446 message
#1206592567622373446 message
#1206592567622373446 message
#1206592567622373446 message

[sonic heart]

i have another request

[echo wasp]

?

[sonic heart]

String.append('︎')

[echo wasp]

vs 15