Unicode

[regal fulcrum]

whatever that meant

[candid trellis]

This does not help with the allegations

[latent lily]

what allegations

[graceful marsh]

He doesn't know

[candid trellis]

Of you being french

[graceful marsh]

What a monster

[regal fulcrum]

isnt m6 literally french

[graceful marsh]

Hence the allegations

[candid trellis]

He’s being sued for it

Sorry

[regal fulcrum]

good

[candid trellis]

It

[candid trellis]

It’s being sued for it

[graceful marsh]

We all surround France right

[regal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/thierry-henry-meme-french-football-montre-gif-19169593

[graceful marsh]

Can we invade

[regal fulcrum]

WHAT HAPPENED

[latent lily]

censorship

[candid trellis]

Anyone from the UK to send troops overseas?

[graceful marsh]

Bad girl

Go to prison

[regal fulcrum]

???

[latent lily]

kali ban everyone and delete all messages fast

they can't know

[echo wasp]

w h y i s a n a n i m a l g e t t i n g s u e d ?

[candid trellis]

/purge

[regal fulcrum]

dude actually do yall realize how FUCKED we are if this channel gets deleted for a reason or another

[graceful marsh]

I recently noticed I could just straight-up delete the Lab

[candid trellis]

You can?

[graceful marsh]

Well not recently

[echo wasp]

insane discovery!!!

[graceful marsh]

But like I keep accidentally rediscovering this fact

[candid trellis]

Only mods can delete bounties right?

[graceful marsh]

Nah watch this

[candid trellis]

No.

SHE DID IT

[latent lily]

wait we're in unicode

i thought we were in awwm

[echo wasp]

?

[candid trellis]

SHE DELETED the lab

[echo wasp]

sure thing...

[regal fulcrum]

WTF IT'S GINE

LAURASIA

[latent lily]

omg it's gone omg!!!

[echo wasp]

????

dude it's still there

[candid trellis]

Asd refresh

[echo wasp]

still there

#1233405406265610260

[regal fulcrum]

it's your imagination it's gone trust

[echo wasp]

sure thing...

[regal fulcrum]

see

[candid trellis]

<#null>

[echo wasp]



�

�

[regal fulcrum]

@untold crystal hey heard you used chatgpt to find strats can you help me breaking into Bhaiksuki

First Codepoint is U+11C00

[candid trellis]

Breaking and entering is illegal ya know

[slate whale]

the white pixel?

[candid trellis]

?

[slate whale]

#general message

[graceful marsh]

Brent is it gone again

Okay so I can't delete the Lab but I can make it so people can't find it

[tepid blaze]

whyyyyyyy ai whyyy didn't you give 20A0F

[heady escarp]

wait what do u mean u cant delete it

did u try it??????????????????????

[graceful marsh]

Brent did Banana disappear or not

[heady escarp]

what banana

ur a banana

[candid trellis]

Yes

[graceful marsh]

Okay now watch this

[candid trellis]

Back

[heady escarp]

watch what?

[graceful marsh]

So theoretically I can do that to the Lab

[heady escarp]

do what ?

[candid trellis]

Nothing

Dont wooooorrrrry about it

[graceful marsh]

I really want to Philadelphia the Lab

That would be extremely funny

[heady escarp]

what does that mean?

[graceful marsh]

Nothing

[heady escarp]

?

[trim pond]

what was the recipe for that one?

[heady escarp]

how do i make Turn Into Unicode

[heady escarp]

how to make .fromcharcode and .fromcharcodes

[heady escarp]

i got .fromcharcode but still need Turn Into Unicode

[regal fulcrum]

侍 has a lost lineage

[graceful marsh]

Well

[regal fulcrum]

oh

😋

[graceful marsh]

Stop eating the samurai

[regal fulcrum]

https://infinibrowser.zptr.cc/item/惡 ah yes

a recipe added by almund with 3 undocumented CJK in it

[tepid blaze]

and now those before

[graceful marsh]

Alright I just sweeped the ACT and now I'm back

[tepid blaze]

look like there another Self referencial

[regal fulcrum]

no......

[graceful marsh]

Do do do do do do-do

[regal fulcrum]

WHY THO

second one means queen

first one idk

[tepid blaze]

queen (that could look like king, and the ai decide its POSEIDON )

[regal fulcrum]

on another note i got softlocked

[graceful marsh]

Yep

All of them are ASD additions

Wait no

6eaa is new

ASDitions

[regal fulcrum]

im going through my undocumented chars and i got this nice chain :3

[graceful marsh]

Kali you misinputted 11B01

I've changed the font to make it clearer

[regal fulcrum]

ah shit

i think it's supposed to be B00 + B00

yea

[graceful marsh]

You made a B00B00

Incredible

[heady escarp]

B00BS when?

[regal fulcrum]

once im out of my household i'll be able to take the B00B pills

oh my gof

d

[graceful marsh]

Is estrogen provided as part of standard healthcare in Switzerland?

[regal fulcrum]

no clue

actually havent looked into it surprisingly

i just have no hope of getting some soon thats why

very transphobic household sadly

[graceful marsh]

Oh...

I'm sorry to hear that

[regal fulcrum]

eh it's okay

[untold crystal]

No success so far

[graceful marsh]

Try Bengali Bhaiksuki Script

[regal fulcrum]

6064

[graceful marsh]

I've been aiming at it for a bit but I'm having trouble

[regal fulcrum]

8FB1

[sonic heart]

You should try incrementing in f9xx

It's very fun

[graceful marsh]

Alright, so Bengali Unicode Bhaiksuki likes making Warang Citi, Kaithi or Tirhuta

[untold crystal]

not really helpful

[graceful marsh]

No?

Damn

[regal fulcrum]

WHAT

inst working properly for the first time in 6h

[heady escarp]

😱

[regal fulcrum]

Someone got Yi Character?

I need Unicode Inuktitut for it and can't find it

productive day

[chilly fulcrum]

Hmm, I’ll have a look

also was those from chains or nah

[regal fulcrum]

sometimes yeah sometimes sorta?

when you put CJK with nearby codes it does something usually

[chilly fulcrum]

indeed

[regal fulcrum]

also some characters like 江 merge with a lot of things and create new stuff for some reason

and the rest (long lines mostly) are Next Codepoint

we're nearing 40k characters ^^

[chilly fulcrum]

good stuff

[chilly fulcrum]

thinngs like what?

also you been doing that 2000 thingy or nah

[regal fulcrum]

study for later

[regal fulcrum]

the what?

[chilly fulcrum]

list of common kanji

[graceful marsh]

Why you gotta be so negative in the negative

[tepid blaze]

its impossible (or at least depend on what you mean by 100%)

[regal fulcrum]

it started at that

and then i used the script for undoc'ed chars and got heavily sidetracked

making chains out of them and documenting them

i got so sidetracked i only got this done

the ones that are moved to the right are done

and documented

[tepid blaze]

whyyyy does cloudlfare always have to stop my CJK scrapping after some minute -_-

[regal fulcrum]

is there an API for infinibrowser

i saw there were undocumented CJK in the browser

[chilly fulcrum]

Nice what was the output how many did you have

[regal fulcrum]

and thought we could check for more

[regal fulcrum]

image i just posted

is all

[chilly fulcrum]

Ah ok

I guess you tried chaining them all? That’s a good thing though

[tepid blaze]

just re linking to that in case you dont already have automaticaly download sheets and may be interested: #1206592567622373446 message

[chilly fulcrum]

auto download?

[tepid blaze]

automatically downloading sheets when you run program (could probably be faster too)

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah I don’t have that

Did you make the script?

[graceful marsh]

Nah

Had Sandu down in dev do the legwork

[chilly fulcrum]

Ok also what does it do if the file name is taken

Okay

[tepid blaze]

replace the existing file

[chilly fulcrum]

so hang on let me figure out how to add this

[raven ruin]

2 elements are impossible so i guess not

[chilly fulcrum]

ok but excluding those I think is the actual question

there’s actually a lot more than 2

more like 20 (minimum)

[raven ruin]

ah

the laboratory casefiles lied

(the updated casefiles)

[chilly fulcrum]

well you could argue the only confirmed impossible by Neal is = but we’re very sure of the others

[raven ruin]

lol

[regal fulcrum]

Obviously excluding those

Lmao

[trim pond]

it is dead 😦 う

[raven ruin]

OOF

oops

capslock

[regal fulcrum]

Lets do some math

When did we start

Late february?

We're nearly at 40k

We've been doing it for 6 months roughly

How many are there? 130k?

We could be done late 2025 if we keep this speed

[tepid blaze]

then maybe

[tepid blaze]

maybe faster if cloudflare isn't annoying

[trim pond]

well it is going to slow down right? like we need to find a way to get U+31xxx and higher. and also starts of blocks could be annoying

if we can't break the barriers

[regal fulcrum]

Higher values seem harder and i cant figure out why

[trim pond]

the lower the value the more often it is used

I think that is why

[regal fulcrum]

More tokens for a single character?

[raven ruin]

technically like feburary 12 or something

[graceful marsh]

Nope

All characters are 4 or less

[raven ruin]

oh it's feburary 10

we started feburary 10

#archive-unicode

[graceful marsh]

Oh yeah damn

[trim pond]

but also we were quite slow at the start

[graceful marsh]

The channel I was kidnapped into

[raven ruin]

lol

[regal fulcrum]

that fast??

WHAT

okay

the DAY i join

see greek and like a tiny bit of polish

think "i want japanese"

lam or endu i forgot who solves it and us three pierce through japanese

in the afternoon

later, i think, PB uses a script and finds emoji?

[graceful marsh]

No

[heady escarp]

nice start to an addiction

[regal fulcrum]

i forgot

how did it all happen

[graceful marsh]

Script was before Japanese

[raven ruin]

is pbpbpb dead

[graceful marsh]

Or concurrent

[regal fulcrum]

Oh okay

[graceful marsh]

Math symbols and Greek already existed when I joined

[regal fulcrum]

And PB finds emojis accidentally while going for russian right?

[regal fulcrum]

I think people were toying with math symbols the afternoon i joined

Everything happened at the same time thats awesome

[graceful marsh]

I'm always surprised to remember you and I joined the same day

[raven ruin]

yeah specifically pbpbpb, jerridum, and endu

maybe not endu

i think mostly pbpbpb and jerridum

they were toying with it

[regal fulcrum]

Its crazy right?

I joined at like 2pm i think

And stopped playing at like 1am

What the fuck happened in these 11h

[graceful marsh]

11:46 AM actually

[raven ruin]

guys

[regal fulcrum]

Yeah but i sent a few msgs i think and left to go eat

[raven ruin]

who is the 5 most technical IC players

or the 20

i'ma make a vote

[regal fulcrum]

Eisern and Bowser are one of them totally

[graceful marsh]

I dropped a few random Full Names then fucked off for the night on the 9th actually

[raven ruin]

i'ma make a vote in general

[regal fulcrum]

Laurasia do you wanna help me make a conclusive timeline of events

[graceful marsh]

Foreshadowing

[regal fulcrum]

To facilitate history documentation

[graceful marsh]

Oh I already started

When I was writing From Earth Water Wind and Fire

[regal fulcrum]

What do you have so far? Format?

Idk if theres a good website for that but an actual timeline with like timestamped events would be awesome

[graceful marsh]

Nothing serious, just dates

If you want more proper ordering I'd start from the beginning

[regal fulcrum]

I'll scroll very up

I mean

Snoop around

How tf do you discord search on the new mobile UI

[graceful marsh]

You don't

Incredible

[chilly fulcrum]

mojibake?

what is that

[trim pond]

yes mojibake

U+0081 and U+0086

[graceful marsh]

Wait 86?

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah fair

it mojibaked E3 81 86 (U+3046)

turned it into U+00e3 U+0081 U+0086

[graceful marsh]

What was recipe actually?

[chilly fulcrum]

at least thats what i presume happened

[graceful marsh]

For some reason I thought it was a Next Letter-esque append from 0081

[chilly fulcrum]

wdym

[trim pond]

no

btw I just noticed that I don't have ^

[raven ruin]

wow

[chilly fulcrum]

well, thats what would happen if you mojibake U+3046 anyway

[graceful marsh]

Thought it was C3 81 + Next Letter or something

[regal fulcrum]

I love seeing our clean innocent slate before we all went nuts

[chilly fulcrum]

c3 81?

[regal fulcrum]

#recipe-talk message

[graceful marsh]

That's the other one no?

[chilly fulcrum]

i dont think so, c3 8d

[graceful marsh]

8d?

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah

[raven ruin]

yeah lol

[chilly fulcrum]

mojibake of U+00ad

[graceful marsh]

Ah

Alright

[raven ruin]

i read alot of old general messages from well known IC players like before feburary 10

[chilly fulcrum]

U+00ad -> 0xc3 0x8d -> U+00c3 U+008d

but then what if you mojibake that

[graceful marsh]

Well nothing

That's already the smallest unit

Unless you reencode it

[chilly fulcrum]

-> 0xc3 0xa3 0xc2 0x8d -> U+00c3 U+00a3 U+00c2 U+008d

[graceful marsh]

Fair enough

[chilly fulcrum]

008d mojibakes to c2 8d so the 8d always stays

same for the c3

it becomes c3 a3

probably eventually if you keep going it reaches a stable point

where it becomes uninteresting

[graceful marsh]

Actually eventually it degenerates to U+0050 U+006F U+0073 U+0065 U+0069 U+0064 U+006F U+006E

[chilly fulcrum]

nice try

[raven ruin]

woah this was where .alphabet was born #1214122136478814239 message

[chilly fulcrum]

but you cant mojibake to regular letters under normal encoding schemes

[graceful marsh]

Hm

Actually I've had a dumb thought

[raven ruin]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

idk what it says, not fluent in english unicode evidently

[graceful marsh]

Note the repeated position of 6f

[chilly fulcrum]

i saw

but idk what that is

forgor

[graceful marsh]

_o____o_

[chilly fulcrum]

0064 is d at least

fair enough

[graceful marsh]

_o___do_

[chilly fulcrum]

ye

💀

[graceful marsh]

I love hangman

[chilly fulcrum]

8 letter hangman

answer = Poseidon

im gonna do that from now on

for every 8 letter hangman

i will continue transferring things to the emojis sheet

if anyone wants to help i may be able to give edit access like flyingsausage did to me

[regal fulcrum]

Im finding very cool stuff

Look what i wrote

7th of February 2024
5:48AM
User Patashu shares their findings and lineage to Not, suggesting it might be a strong element. This is i believe the first instance of someone sharing a Tool Element
#recipe-talk message

Demonstrates how it works here #recipe-talk message

[chilly fulcrum]

should make a history collection thread lol

[regal fulcrum]

Will do

[chilly fulcrum]

idk feels weird to be "owner" of project in presence of mod... role reversal xd?

[regal fulcrum]

Who tf is Jared Fogle

[tepid blaze]

the funny thing is i discovered infinite craft from a random discord server that have nothing to do with that

[regal fulcrum]

I got there from finding the sheet on reddit

[chilly fulcrum]

what sheet

[regal fulcrum]

While trying to accomplish the challenge set by Pointcrow that'd give a plushie to the FD of Collector's Anxiety

[regal fulcrum]

You're such a zoomer

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14aPnIQt252SYvmjP7iKQM3_rkLvqFntcqmxZNwq_tkI/edit?usp=sharing

/j btw

[chilly fulcrum]

fair enough, i kept my own recipes and did my own research throughout february

[regal fulcrum]

Makes sense

This was the ancient times

[chilly fulcrum]

didnt investigate further till march online

[regal fulcrum]

Ignore this its just hard to get back to the same spot on mobile

#recipe-talk message

[tepid blaze]

it was from the backroom fandom wiki discord that i discovered infinite craft

[raven ruin]

historian

gonna make a big thing on the history of the IC discord

tech and stuff

technical IC

[chilly fulcrum]

5 emoji, nice. i think the record is like 11 or 13 or something?

[raven ruin]

really?

link?

how does the game make emojis

is there a second ai?

[regal fulcrum]

https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1274152740460953630

[hybrid dune]

i have a few mathematical font characters xd

[chilly fulcrum]

indeed they get thrown up a lot

[hybrid dune]

ye but i finished the ones that got thrown at me ;p

[chilly fulcrum]

well its worth checking if any of them we dont have

theres a script to do that, although i need to update it

[hybrid dune]

also i have these little things

which are both <reserved>

which makes no sense because i literally have them

also they arent even listed on the unicode spreadsheet because they apparently dont exist, but for some reason they do

idk man its weird

[chilly fulcrum]

i guess the font implemented them

its fair enough given that theres a gap there and l and m are the logical choice

i think they didnt put it because they existed elsewhere but some fonts put it there for convenience

theyre unassigned

[hybrid dune]

do you guys care about those?

[graceful marsh]

Probably not?

They're not official characters

Or I mean they are

[chilly fulcrum]

well, no they arent

[tepid blaze]

well, i won't say no a recipe (since i store them into my db)

[trim pond]

more mojibake

[graceful marsh]

The characters themselves are in Unicode but they're assigned elsewhere

[chilly fulcrum]

how did you make

[hybrid dune]

here have fun

[graceful marsh]

Yep, basic increment

I owe myself 20$

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean its cool but we dont record those, at least not in this sheet (yet)

[graceful marsh]

The fuck you mean yet

[trim pond]

I combined these with all chars from U+0021 to U+00FF I had and sometimes it gave mojibake

[graceful marsh]

What are you planning

[chilly fulcrum]

"basic" but it has seq. mr.

i see how hard was it to make

(still wanna know about ; ; that must have been a nightmare)

[hybrid dune]

also increments are way better than random u+stuff where you first have to craft so much random stuff

[graceful marsh]

Always nice when they work out like that

[chilly fulcrum]

im not planning anything, but i said not yet because never is a very strong word

[trim pond]

not really

just getting '; ;' into append

[graceful marsh]

Ah, good ol' String.padend

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah exactly

that is exceptionally deep

[trim pond]

you can probably make it without that. I just had that at my disposal so I didn't bother making it without it

[graceful marsh]

Is using a "mr. " to extract the subject of a String common?

First time I've seen that done

[trim pond]

;-; was already made

[hybrid dune]

but im too lazy to send all the recipes

[graceful marsh]

Apparently it is

[trim pond]

well I tried appending ' ;' to ";" and ';' but that didn't really work

[chilly fulcrum]

like i wouldnt have thought to try "mr. "

i would have probably given up, but i wouldnt have even reached that point

[chilly fulcrum]

how much work you been doing on the side for this my god

[graceful marsh]

Unfortunately anything not on the sheet is wanted

So Catstone, either you submit to your fate and do the labours needed to get recipes in or be hounded by the Wolves for the rest of eternity

[chilly fulcrum]

also, wrong answer

[hybrid dune]

well i dont engange with the discord much and just play the game with friends

[chilly fulcrum]

interesting but you got that far?

i mean cool

[hybrid dune]

U+030F
u+030E

[graceful marsh]

Clean Unicode use (real) (no fake)?

Incredible

[hybrid dune]

yep

U+0339

[trim pond]

I have also this but it didn't make anything interesting

[chilly fulcrum]

is without first letter documented in some sheet or smth? im just always paranoid about documentation

[hybrid dune]

U+033A

[graceful marsh]

#1215495041049436170 message

Aero took

[hybrid dune]

U+033C

[chilly fulcrum]

ok, we just need to make it accessible from sheet in some capacity

[hybrid dune]

U+033D U+033E

[hybrid dune]

wdym? i put lineages for everything tho :((

delete the abcd and "abcd" are free

[graceful marsh]

WFC is the problem actually

[chilly fulcrum]

no im just saying for general use

[tepid blaze]

that get me to 341 character (unassigned or just straight up or thing like 2F030)

[graceful marsh]

Well, "problem"

[chilly fulcrum]

?

[tepid blaze]

in my unnasigned/other type of character db

[graceful marsh]

You got an easy way to scrape my file for unassigneds Fuezt?

[chilly fulcrum]

ohhh

i still need to upgrade the script

can someone go to github repo and get latest version and add auto code to it

and i will update it in repo

[tepid blaze]

if you mean extract yeah (did it with my own save, took only some seconds)

[graceful marsh]

Yeah

[hybrid dune]

U+03AE

[graceful marsh]

Perhaps we should be utilising this Delete The Abcd strat more in day-to-day operations

[chilly fulcrum]

quoted greek letter?

interesting

[hybrid dune]

U+048B

[chilly fulcrum]

idk if i have those

[hybrid dune]

U+1E13

U+1E93

[chilly fulcrum]

im sure the editors can manage the dependencies and stuff though

[hybrid dune]

U+1F49

U+ff51

[chilly fulcrum]

stringtolowercase? o.o

[hybrid dune]

here is the entry

[chilly fulcrum]

okay thanks

we need like full documentation

intent is for a user to be able to follow themselves if they want it

thats enough for that one

but the other tools we do need

also lol capital omega quoted + itself = lowercase is redundant step

[graceful marsh]

Rubiks t'a'id be good for you to list the tools needing lineages

[hybrid dune]

here you go

[hybrid dune]

i know but i like the fish emoji ;p

also 3 greek letters in quotes plus themselves make the uppercase version which is funny

also Delete the Abcd is here #1226511876733669436 message

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm, is it like too arbitrary for the editors to figure out and chase up themself? i can kinda see that lol but I also do not want to be the one getting in the way of anything. like i want to be able to be comfortable knowing within reason that tool lineages will be added and chased up for sheet in some capacity

but yeah i can see how that might be a problem

any ideas

i am open to suggestion always

and improvements to process

[hybrid dune]

i mean i have like way better recipes for like 90% of the mathematic alphabets

because you can just increment them

instead of doing U+(random unicode) + random garbage

like its listed in the sheet xD

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah thats fair enough

[graceful marsh]

Wait how long has your cat been upside down

[hybrid dune]

like a week xD

[graceful marsh]

Damn

[chilly fulcrum]

those are mostly old because ai gives them when you throw random stuff at it

[hybrid dune]

i think it might be slowly dying

[graceful marsh]

The cat?

[hybrid dune]

yea

[graceful marsh]

Well then

[vernal kraken]

what conversation did i just open

[chilly fulcrum]

okay, what ranges? we can figure it out ourself

and maybe general strat i guess

[chilly fulcrum]

how about this as a general principle: if you need to go "wait how do i make that" then its pretty good indicator the lineage is needed, for sheet if not for yourself

but i dont want to get in the way of course so if its too much let me know

dont want to be mean boss or anything

[graceful marsh]

Your call

Although I counterpoint that the metric should surely be "I cannot find the recipe for this element easily in current state"

[hybrid dune]

i mean 90% was a lie, because those are hard to increment but i do have some better recipes

[graceful marsh]

Liars? In the #1206592567622373446 chat?

Banished for 7 billion years

[chilly fulcrum]

wdym current state

nah but i gotta be able to trust yall and let you guys make your own decisions

plz dont ever feel like "damn i gotta ask rubik nooo i cant do this"

[graceful marsh]

Wherever you are in the process of adding recipes

[chilly fulcrum]

see if everything has to go through me then thats not healthy

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm, maybe im not sure what you mean, like do you mean with the elements you currently have or what

[echo wasp]

A[insert soft hyphen] + String.touppercase()

[graceful marsh]

Ach, nevermind, I'm just dier tired

Ter appro 3 ne the morn

I'll be off tae bed now I think

[chilly fulcrum]

okay

let me know if you think of better, like ideally id be able to let yall handle catstones stuff independently and if im blocking that i want to know what i can do to make it easier and better

if i block stuff thats not healthy

[hybrid dune]

i spend way too much effort on this now, but this is the almost complete
Mathematical Script Capital x

All you need to start is 𝒜 and 𝒥

only missing G

[chilly fulcrum]

cool

[hybrid dune]

ya its better than this xD

[chilly fulcrum]

of course

[graceful marsh]

Well, I'd naid say 'tleast a lineage for Stringtolowercase, Combining Dot Below en Combining Circumflex Below ai'd be needed

From Catstone

[chilly fulcrum]

sounds good to me

alternatively can try to optimise em

[graceful marsh]

The rest an be good enough fer search

[echo wasp]

do any of them have controls?

[chilly fulcrum]

i do have stuff against discord search since its not reliable, usually i prefer link the message to save the user from potential pain

[hybrid dune]

Stringtolowercase
Yes the last step is necessary

[chilly fulcrum]

well, its not really

it works the same lower or upper

[graceful marsh]

Nae, listen tae the lad, it's necessary

[chilly fulcrum]

k

[hybrid dune]

Combining Dot Below

[night dragon]

has laurasia turned into a scotland

[graceful marsh]

I've always bin Scots-speaking

When I'm tired I forget tae think in English

[night dragon]

of course you do

[graceful marsh]

Usually it's nair this bad though

I've prae worn myself out with work

Of course, there's always a wee bit o playing it up for the cameras

[chilly fulcrum]

exercise for editors: add everything catstone said with what you think is reasonable (i want to evaluate what that looks like)

[graceful marsh]

Well, n'way

I've already lied to myself once and I don't intend on doing it again

G'night

[chilly fulcrum]

gn

[night dragon]

good morning

[hybrid dune]

terrible lineage, but
Combining Circumflex Below

[echo wasp]

it actually mostly is lol

[chilly fulcrum]

is the words in quotes easy to make (i.e. put this in quotation marks)?

[hybrid dune]

probably

[echo wasp]

most tools won't be repeatedly said over and over again to get pushed back so much its hard to find

[hybrid dune]

i mean with abcd you can also just do

• "co"
• "mb"
• "in"
• "in"
• "g"
  and so on

[chilly fulcrum]

right, i prefer to go back to there but if thats annoying i can reconsider

(guide doc would help but i kinda stopped writing it after a little while)

but ideally the guide would explain if you cant find it, then it means you can make it "easily" by doing this

[hybrid dune]

i mean this btw

super easy to do

[echo wasp]

the thing is, you cant cover every tool

[chilly fulcrum]

well, you can if you do it strategically where the standard ones are documented somewhere centrally for users to access, then theres other places which are easy to access for tools that are "specialised" and then the one-off tools just drop a link in sheet

[hybrid dune]

i mean you could make one giga convoluded save file with everything in the sheet lol

[echo wasp]

you're actually kinda going overkill now

[hybrid dune]

and then people use save file analyzer

would be kinda funny

[chilly fulcrum]

is it really overkill to not want to have a flood of users asking "omg how do i make this" and having to fork it out to them every single time

[echo wasp]

this isn't a general tools sheet

[echo wasp]

do we?

[chilly fulcrum]

no well of course the general things we can leave alone to the other places

[echo wasp]

well you really do not need to give recipes for general tools in the sheet lol

[hybrid dune]

also spelling in quotes is pretty free, i dont think you need lineages there

unless it has remove or unicode in it

[chilly fulcrum]

personally i disagree, since theres multiple ways to do it and sometimes it just wont let you, but i am open to reconsider

ive been trolled more than enough times xd

[hybrid dune]

use abcd.

your life will change

also 99% of the time delete the abcd + "abcdwords" makes words

[chilly fulcrum]

right, but like how would an outsider looking at the sheet know this? and of course it doesnt work every time

[echo wasp]

even if you don't know about it still is rather simplistic most of the time

isn't there already a guide for quote building anyways

[chilly fulcrum]

news to me if there is

[echo wasp]

it's not if there is, there is one

[hybrid dune]

i mean if there isnt i just gave you guys one xD

[chilly fulcrum]

another thing, is it really that hard to just go like, a couple steps back? doesnt the mbs feature make this easy? i just want to know

[lethal nymph]

(that feature is from my helper patch)

[hybrid dune]

mbs?

[chilly fulcrum]

where you can make lineages really fast

by dragging out items from the recipe modal

[night dragon]

im im too lazy to make a lineage i just get a link from the browser save file analyzer

[hybrid dune]

also mr. rubik cuber how many unicodes do you have?

[echo wasp]

hard? honest answer: yes. esp if it is very simple

[chilly fulcrum]

why is that?

[chilly fulcrum]

idk, last i checked i had 15k

[hybrid dune]

jeez.

[chilly fulcrum]

mostly from putting in other peoples stuff

[hybrid dune]

i have a few less

[echo wasp]

it's more like "whats the point in wasting time"

[chilly fulcrum]

its like, a couple seconds, and you could be saving a user a lot of pain. thats at least how i feel. i mean when i was newer, i got trolled all the time by having "simple" things left out of lineages and being unable to make them due to lack of general guide or something

if you dont want to do that, then we can document strategy or point to a documented strategy

or, if its really that bad i will reconsider my stance

[chilly fulcrum]

still a lot

in terms of stuff ive actually discovered and contributed its far less

like, 2-3k is a good estimate

i just want to prevent pain for other users as much as possible. perhaps it is my personality, but saving yourself a few seconds at the potential expense of someone else goes against it.

does that sound reasonable or is it just me? if its just me then i can accept that i will have to take that upon myself

anyway, sorry i was meant to be letting u guys just put in catstones stuff however you want

[echo wasp]

the thing is, will people really need the more obscure unicodes?

[hybrid dune]

does anyone have a codepoint or next codepoint recipe that doesnt involve quotes?

[echo wasp]

not me for sure

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm, i dont think so

[lethal nymph]

i sometimes need cjk and then i check sheet and it's a codepoint + tool that i don't have recipe

[night dragon]

note

[chilly fulcrum]

o.o

[chilly fulcrum]

right, this i what i dont want to happen, i mean for nata maybe its okay since he is likely skilled enough to make it, but not everyone is that skilled

if i am just that misaligned with you guys then i will just suck it up and move on

[hybrid dune]

i mean there are many U+xxxx in there without explanation

when i was a big boy noob i had no idea how to make those and literally spend an hour trying to use discord search for anything

[chilly fulcrum]

right, thats cause i intend to make a guide on how to create them

most of them i think can be covered by a general guide explaining and demonstrating the process

[hybrid dune]

nowadays i just abcd to make the code and then mr. U+ to put it in

[chilly fulcrum]

wait what? cool

[hybrid dune]

what do you guys do?

[chilly fulcrum]

"..u-" usually

[hybrid dune]

oh

[chilly fulcrum]

although i feel pretty guilty having not made the guide yet

feel like a bit of a fake

but my ideas were to demonstrate the process, and show visual examples of what the best players do when the strategies dont work

and give backups

etc

of course if the codepoint is like, really hard to make i provide a lineage but i havent felt the need for that in a while, because of the guide that does not yet exist...

[hybrid dune]

here this is basically what i do

altihough it can be pretty thinnacky if something just doesnt want to work

also that is definitly not how you spell thinnacky

[chilly fulcrum]

idk maybe we can get ball rolling, i can set aside the general guide and focus on codepoints https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vx2EbW3-D0UiKmZJ9fZg3o3ugj_IfWKurdFUmZb9sNA/edit?usp=sharing

[chilly fulcrum]

only just realised what X4 means

bruh

lmao

[echo wasp]

hysteresis for no reason

[chilly fulcrum]

hey nice

control block xd

[abstract marsh]

supposedly a joke thing to create become unicode tools 😂

[echo wasp]

revival request

????

[chilly fulcrum]

lol what?

[chilly fulcrum]

what are you doing

to make those 💀

[chilly fulcrum]

what about the 0s

[chilly fulcrum]

c0 c1 infornation separator 2.. how deep in are you?

[chilly fulcrum]

damn you got the mojibake stuff too? how long did it take

[echo wasp]

around 10 mins

what on earth would that do

[chilly fulcrum]

oh

that just deletes all text

in some browsers and sites and apps

like ctrl + a then backspace

also 10 min for the whole lot or 10 min for just the euc-jp

[echo wasp]

the euc-jp

[chilly fulcrum]

k

[echo wasp]

expected

[chilly fulcrum]

wait... backslash? isnt that hard to build with

[night dragon]

revived

oop

[echo wasp]

I'd assume it wont give 0004

[night dragon]

nope

[abstract marsh]

such thing wont be easy

[night dragon]

yeah nah 😔

[abstract marsh]

try new method which no one had done before 💀

[night dragon]

what kind?

[abstract marsh]

cursed

[chilly fulcrum]

backslashes in quotes normally double dont they? or maybe not cause of the u and it knows that \u is legit escape sequence

[grim crane]

U+8220~U+8226,U+8228~U+8229

[abstract marsh]

what if we create
Unicode of \ or Unicode of \\

[grim crane]

and 822A one more

[night dragon]

request:
a tool that checks your savefile for any elements that contain a unicode symbol not in the spreadsheet:
e.g A is not in the spreadsheet, B is not in the spreadsheet:
the tool would list the savefile as:
Art, Banana, B, etc

idk if its possible

[abstract marsh]

should be possible

[echo wasp]

def possible

[chilly fulcrum]

? what do you mean? Art is not a symbol im so confused

neither is Banana

oh wait i think i get

hm

i mean it would list everything with space in it 💀

[echo wasp]

wait are linebreaks possible

doesn't need to be isolated

[night dragon]

like it contains the symbol

eg 場所aef would contain 'a'

[chilly fulcrum]

ye

i get it

nah linebreaks are trimmed

(theyre also whitespace)

[echo wasp]

they don't need to be at the end

[abstract marsh]

well, that is avoidable if we added extra cell marking it as 0/1
0 for possible
1 for impossible

[chilly fulcrum]

so you cant get them at all

no like

if you have

abcdefg (any line break) hijkl

it will just send back abcdefg

like it stops reading at line breaks

[abstract marsh]

do we even have line break in element 😭

[chilly fulcrum]

no, for the reason i just said

[echo wasp]

wdym send back

[chilly fulcrum]

like this

you: x + y
ai: z
a
neal code: z

[echo wasp]

But then all the elements are dead

The[0a]~

[chilly fulcrum]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

not possible to make, of course its dead

[echo wasp]

but if it only reads the then shouldn't it be alive

[chilly fulcrum]

not sure you get it, let me try again

if, for whatever reason, any form of line break is output by the ai, neal's code literally just chops off the line break and everything after it and uses the trimmed output for everything

that or the ai isnt allowed to make line break so it has to stop and get interrupted

no way to tell which

point is, you cant have any form of line break at any point

[echo wasp]

Yeah then The[lb]~'s [lb]~ will get chopped off, leaving The

[chilly fulcrum]

uh huh

so you just made The

time to add it to the list of 10000 recipes for The

[echo wasp]

thus it should be alive since The has been made

[chilly fulcrum]

... im not sure what part you dont get

but you dont get it

i dont know what it does on input, but you are welcome to try

in any case its inconsequential since you cannot actually obtain anything of this form

because it gets cut off immediately

probably the first thing it does

our evidence i believe was that in every code fragment that came back, it always ended exactly where a new line would go

but maybe there was more

[grim crane]

83F1 83F2

[chilly fulcrum]

totally forgot how to make a request from console, i have code saved somewhere but idk where 💀

unsafewindow not defined so, idk

[trim pond]

no, they have „†ˆ (81, 84, 86, 88), but it is all dead. Unfortunately

[echo wasp]

can i have the recipes?

[trim pond]

Convert Euc-jp To Utf + Π= い
Convert Euc-jp To Mojibake + è = えいいい
ã + Euc-jp = の
Š+ Convert Euc-jp To Utf = う

[sage wren]

holy mojibake

[echo wasp]

lol all of them are with ã

[trim pond]

yeah

[echo wasp]

now get the C0 controls

[grim crane]

841D,8427,8428

[sand coral]

10D1E

[grim crane]

U+8299 U+84C8 U+84C9 U+84CB, the required ones are in databse

U+8725

[trim pond]

in the optimisheet? I don't see it there anywhere.

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm

true its not there... it was in the initial route for charcode stuff though

well .charcode is in the route for the charcodes on there

and its just .from + .charcode

[trim pond]

ok nvm I searched bounty-board (awwo) and found it #1226511876733669436 message

[trim pond]

yeah I kinda figured, but I couldn't figure out how to make .from

[chilly fulcrum]

ah ok

like .fr + um right

[trim pond]

yeah, but .um

[chilly fulcrum]

ok

what u doin rn

you been in low part? trying to get them all in order or smth

[trim pond]

atm I am trying to make Water + Water ᐀ Lake, but I am not even sure if it is possible. And in unicode, I am trying to make U+000x

[chilly fulcrum]

i see, where are you at now? whats the plan

[trim pond]

i was at "hi Mr. Water +" but I can't append a space after that. and I also got to "hi Mr. Water ++ Water" but got stuck at that.

[chilly fulcrum]

water ++ water

lmao what

and whats the plan for 000x

[abstract marsh]

something wild

[trim pond]

mojibake converter tools spam

idk

just hoping to get lucky

[abstract marsh]

what coding language is still possible without getting blocked by CF

[chilly fulcrum]

how many did you make? also fyi mojibake cant get u stuff below U+0080

[trim pond]

hm.. ok I thought that maybe it would.

[chilly fulcrum]

well, the ai could

but at least the common mojibakes cant make anything that low

[trim pond]

I made 81, 84, 86, 88, 8d, 9f

but not on its own

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm, may i see some of the tools? very interested to have a go

[trim pond]

#1206592567622373446 message

[echo wasp]

im gonna add these into my control chars sheet now : )

[trim pond]

hm ok

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah the reason they are all dead i think is because mojibaked CJK in U+3xxx has the small tilde a

you did get one caps tho

[trim pond]

yes, but the caps one has multiple caps so

[chilly fulcrum]

fd somehow?

i guess i am stupid

[trim pond]

i didn't plan on getting that one originally

[chilly fulcrum]

...

uhh

well im kinda stuck then

[trim pond]

but if you want the last step here they are

idk i could make the lineages

but I am too lazy to do that

[echo wasp]

my last step

[echo wasp]

wait 9f?

[trim pond]

hmm i forgot to try that

[trim pond]

yes

[echo wasp]

wait whats the recipe

[trim pond]

"hi Seq. " + Í = "hi Seq. Í"
"hi Seq. Í" + Euc-jp = ͟͟͟Ã

[sage wren]

obvs the Captive language !

[echo wasp]

ill do it

[trim pond]

thanks.

[echo wasp]

Convert Euc-jp To Mojibake

"mojibake" is just Mojibake + Put This In Quotation Marks

[trim pond]

wow without string.apends

[echo wasp]

well there was one but i replaced it

[echo wasp]

Convert Euc-jp To Utf-8

[echo wasp]

Convert Euc-jp To Utf

[echo wasp]

my shitf-jis recipe isnt much better

[trim pond]

shift-jis and euc-jp also often make halfwidth katakana and U+ffxx chars

and Convert To Euc-jp too

[echo wasp]

lol

[trim pond]

yea

[echo wasp]

i like how this is alive

[trim pond]

cool. what was the recipe?

[trim pond]

hm.. ig we could make more alive ones like this

[echo wasp]

if it could convert to characters...

[graceful marsh]

Well you're using the wrong one if you want to go from encoded to char

[echo wasp]

wait whci hone shld it ne

which one should it be

[graceful marsh]

String.decodeURI

[echo wasp]

bruh

[graceful marsh]

Magnificent

[trim pond]

do this Antonym + string.encodeURI = String.decodeuri

[echo wasp]

nv got iy

nvm got it

[graceful marsh]

Nevada Game of Thrones It's You

[heady escarp]

is that dead

[echo wasp]

not anymore

[heady escarp]

also i wonder if this element u got was alive, if u could combine it with the decode thing to get the character again, no way it would work

[heady escarp]

did u revive it urself or was it alive already

[echo wasp]

revived

[regal fulcrum]

Is that in mbs

If so wheres the latest version

Also is there a script to get the count of single character FDs

[lethal nymph]

mbs hasn't been updated since version 1.5

[heady escarp]

imagine if u could turn this back into unicod characters and use it to get new ones

[sage wren]

(supposedly)

[heady escarp]

there are no dead bodies in nikos basement (allegedly)

sorry i mean in Qoph's house* (i dont know anyone called niko)

[sage wren]

funnily enough i was changing my profile as you said this so i can skip by it now

[heady escarp]

i meant Tawqi''s house

[sage wren]

Who's Tawqi''?

[heady escarp]

didnt u already use this pfp

[sage wren]

no

i had a similar one though

[heady escarp]

i added 's because i was talking about ur house

not my fault u have a ' at the end

[graceful marsh]

Should be one in Resources

What the fuck why is the house shaking

[regal fulcrum]

??

Laurasia dont die

Please

[echo wasp]

oh no earthquake

Laurasia was never seen again

[graceful marsh]

Okay I think something hit the side building

[lethal nymph]

that is true

i mess with scripts i use a lot

sometimes i accidentally fix things without knowing

[regal fulcrum]

What the fyck

[graceful marsh]

Nata is actually on MBS 13 already

[graceful marsh]

I'll check it out later literally just stepped out the shower

[regal fulcrum]

Good luck

[sage wren]

That was intentional just to mess up your message

when i changed my pfp i saw your message so picked a word ending with an apostrophe

[heady escarp]

can you accidentally fix the verification endpoint

[lethal nymph]

the chances are non-zero

[regal fulcrum]

lmao

[echo wasp]

revival request !!

[sage wren]

No

🖕🖕🖕

[heady escarp]

also have u guys checked every missing unicode on browser cuz maybe it has some

[lethal nymph]

i don't think so

[sage wren]

it doesnt i checked myself!

[lethal nymph]

last time i checked there was some kanjis on browser that wasn't on sheet

[heady escarp]

if u do that maybe check EVERY unicode not just missing ones, that way we might get some more optimized recipes

[lethal nymph]

can't you get all unicodes from browser instead of comparing every unicode char to the browser

[sage wren]

perchance.

[heady escarp]

.ecnahcrep

[graceful marsh]

Actually I might go check in on the DugDB

[sage wren]

DBug 💯

[heady escarp]

like check which unicodes are there?

[sage wren]

sounds more like its saying debug but whatever

[graceful marsh]

Yip

[heady escarp]

how do u automatically check multiple things at once

[graceful marsh]

Most likely nothing the targeted searches haven't gotten but who knows

[heady escarp]

i only know about manually using ctrl f

[graceful marsh]

I'm sorry I'm still reeling from the implications of that statement

[heady escarp]

?

[lethal nymph]

you can clone yourself to look for things in parallel

might be a bit overkill though

[trim pond]

this is interesting

[echo wasp]

ooo

how did u unquote it

[trim pond]

i didn't

the better question would be, how would you enquote it. I can't get anything in quotes in the form of "\(letter)"

[heady escarp]

wtf

[echo wasp]

1c to 0001 is just ai being ai

[tepid blaze]

;-; I go sleep for 8 hour and It happen when I sleep

[graceful marsh]

Why are you sad fuezt

[heady escarp]

what if u try to get \uxxx where uxxx is some random unicode that not on the sheet yet

[lethal nymph]

huh what happene

[graceful marsh]

Me when I go sleep for 8 hour

[trim pond]

i tried stuff like that. I can only get "\\uxxx"

[heady escarp]

also that string from charcode thing is dead right?

[trim pond]

yes

[heady escarp]

what if u try remove/delete first character/letter

[trim pond]

i mean I got this as well but... it is not in quotes

[heady escarp]

is there any tech thats like Delete The \ or Delete The Backslash or something

[graceful marsh]

Nata, what bit of code would you use to extract a single character from a specific position in a string

And is it within 30 chars

[echo wasp]

so lets revive it

[lethal nymph]

"abc".charAt(1) === "b"

[graceful marsh]

Oh Charat

Not bad

[heady escarp]

20 characters

someone optimize it!111

[graceful marsh]

Anyone wanna test out String.charat(1) on the Mojibake?

(and maybe 2 because Llama is dumb)

[heady escarp]

what would string.charat do, and what does mojibake do

[lethal nymph]

moji bake is when you cook your emojis

[heady escarp]

🧑‍🍳

[graceful marsh]

A bit too overcooked

You broke them apart

[heady escarp]

what does it actually do

[graceful marsh]

This

[lethal nymph]

i heard someone mispronouncing it as moji bake and now it's not getting out of my head

[heady escarp]

jesus

[graceful marsh]

How

How did the concept of not getting out of my head cause me to lose

[lethal nymph]

screw you

[graceful marsh]

It's because it's you

[heady escarp]

how else can u pronounce it

[lethal nymph]

by syllables

[graceful marsh]

It's because that damn N puts me in the wrong headspace

[lethal nymph]

mo ji bah ke

(inb4 a linguist cancels me somehow)

[graceful marsh]

They're not cancelling you for this it's for the unrelated monkey cannon allegations

[heady escarp]

laurasia will make one of those YouTube thumbanils about you

[heady escarp]

maybe we can get it with all this new tech

[lethal nymph]

what tech

[heady escarp]

this

and mojibake

[lethal nymph]

it's not even in quotes yet

but again this is llama so who knows

[heady escarp]

do u guys think the elements Base64string and Base64url would just give u something super long

cuz they are both dead right now

[trim pond]

oh yeah I also have this.

[heady escarp]

btw if u want to put 2 brackets at the end like that, String.append('()') works decently

[trim pond]

that's what I did. but with string.append("()")

now I need to get stuff in : (. do you know how to do that?

[heady escarp]

nope

i wonder what if u had like String.append('(1)')

[trim pond]

or ("('1')") / ('("1")')

awwm?

[heady escarp]

wouldnt that make String.charat("1") if succesful

dont u want String.charat(1) ?

[trim pond]

or ('1')

[trim pond]

wait hm.. I am not sure which one of (1) ('1') ("1") is better. But I would like all

[graceful marsh]

For the former I feel Append {n} should do just find

[trim pond]

append {n} ? i didn't know that existed

[graceful marsh]

Number

[trim pond]

yeah but like curly brackets?

[heady escarp]

are the curly brackets also there?

[graceful marsh]

No that's placeholder

[trim pond]

oh

lol

[graceful marsh]

I really need to work on my syntax

[heady escarp]

so Append 1 or Append '1'

[trim pond]

worked for append 10

[graceful marsh]

Aha

Now we just need to shift the mojibake up 8 characters obviously

[trim pond]

lol reverse apparently does this now

[graceful marsh]

Me when... uh

I'm not sure for this one actually

[trim pond]

and they make charat(0)

now how do I increment it

[heady escarp]

"1" '1' Append 1 Append '1' idk lol

why do u want to incremeent it

[heady escarp]

cant u try Append 1 + String.charat()

[trim pond]

didn't work

[trim pond]

tell me a recipe for an element containing a control character at the 0th position

[heady escarp]

what about Append '1'

with those single quotes around 1

[trim pond]

nope

[heady escarp]

then idk

what exactly is string charat supposed to do

[trim pond]

return the character at the given position. to separate it

i put the recipe in string.append thread

[chilly fulcrum]

Couldn’t get anywhere near that far yet