Unicode

[chilly fulcrum]

It would give loads of 2xxxx

but if we want a shot of 3xxxx then maybe most tools should be cjk extension stuff

still pick an exotic range though

and maybe a couple other wild cards

Obv it will miss loads (with chains, thousands) since we can’t test every tool but we can check way faster

plus that chars combined together there’s not much pattern but stuff from other ranges can sometimes make it increment by like 500

maybe start with this?

[lethal nymph]

sure

[chilly fulcrum]

looking at about 1 hour runtime right

[lethal nymph]

are they all alive btw

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah

[echo wasp]

all of what - codepoints?

[lethal nymph]

U+XXXXX codepoints

[chilly fulcrum]

oh codepoints?

Uhh

I don’t think so

[lethal nymph]

i can do chars

[chilly fulcrum]

I thought you meant chars

[lethal nymph]

i can do both tbh

[trim pond]

btw are there recipes for stuff in the range 007f-009f?

[chilly fulcrum]

Can do chars and in the meantime if someone wants to volunteer to finish an exotic range of codepoints

[chilly fulcrum]

No

we have 008d in an element tho

that is also alive

[trim pond]

well I want to get U+0084 in quot. marks

[chilly fulcrum]

it’s bound so tight due to mojibake and don’t think it’s separable practically

[lethal nymph]

well if you combine them together then it'd take more than 4 hours

[echo wasp]

yeah...

[trim pond]

hmm ok

[tepid blaze]

back at it

[echo wasp]

defi not all alive

[chilly fulcrum]

ah sorry I was computing only for 30000-3003f

[lethal nymph]

oh

[chilly fulcrum]

dunno why

maybe cause of talks on skips

[echo wasp]

what is a well-explored codepoint range

[chilly fulcrum]

maybe could extend it to 3007f? hard to know

[lethal nymph]

yea i can do that part first

[chilly fulcrum]

it’ll be a while before we have tools and codepoints ready

may as well use it

sure nata I think you can run that

[lethal nymph]

should be like half an hour

[chilly fulcrum]

Should be good

[lethal nymph]

slightly more if we do both Ideographs and Ideographic

[chilly fulcrum]

axxx hasn’t been explored with the cjk extensions yet but like, idk

the find came from 12xx of all places

maybe any codepoint can do it

[echo wasp]

you did say sth from 7dx0?

or 7dxx?

[chilly fulcrum]

7d is all alive yeah that’s why I said

but why don’t we use the time to prepare a totally new range

don’t have to

Just a suggestion

[echo wasp]

what range

[chilly fulcrum]

pick one

[trim pond]

you can try any xxx range

[chilly fulcrum]

idk if it’s good to be a cjk or non cjk range

who knows 00xx might even work, but just pick one that’s exotic

and unexplored

If you want

[echo wasp]

idk i cant decide

[chilly fulcrum]

remember we have all the time in the world

Nothing to lose

[echo wasp]

explore 7xxxxx frfr

[chilly fulcrum]

I can choose for you if you can’t decide though

[echo wasp]

yeah go ahead

[chilly fulcrum]

I say we do 129xx

[echo wasp]

alr

[chilly fulcrum]

maybe better to end with 0 but again nothing to lose

I’ll stick with my gut

[echo wasp]

alright, ill go from behind then

[chilly fulcrum]

from
Behind?

[tepid blaze]

result for the moment of all i got

[echo wasp]

129ff

[chilly fulcrum]

why is there a newline there what

oh ok

[chilly fulcrum]

They show as FD too? Cool

[tepid blaze]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

my script was just everything had white emoji and no FD iirc

[tepid blaze]

oh yeah i store emoji and if its a fd or not, and later on convert into a savefile

[chilly fulcrum]

why make FF with string

[echo wasp]

idk momentary brain death

[chilly fulcrum]

💀

[echo wasp]

currently tho

[chilly fulcrum]

Good

[sonic heart]

u+1f040

[echo wasp]

i hope rubiks math is doing the front lol

[tepid blaze]

its crazy how unicode got from using some simple tech to that ;-;

[echo wasp]

well prolly not ; ;

129(2-8)x not done

o.o

its giving 300xxs

[trim pond]

huh

holy

[echo wasp]

wtf

[trim pond]

lol

i am not finishing that chain if anyone wants to they can

[echo wasp]

ill do it

it leads to 30edd

[trim pond]

yea

[echo wasp]

should i change my font just so i cant render it

can*

aww it doesnt know what it is :/

[trim pond]

oh it is that character? lol

[echo wasp]

yeah its the noodle

[trim pond]

didn't know it was in this range

also found U+30ec2

and this

[chilly fulcrum]

I tried for so long

How

[candid trellis]

doesnt he literally show how?

[sonic heart]

@chilly fulcrum

[chilly fulcrum]

How full did it get? Obviously there’s no way that could fit

no but like

damn I wish there was video of that one xd

[sonic heart]

Lol

[chilly fulcrum]

I could not even make that

I got e f

That’s it

my board filled up

with only e f to show for it

[sonic heart]

💀

[chilly fulcrum]

I had like e f f or e f d stoke point and also d f and f d and f e etc etc

[sonic heart]

It wasn't even that difficult to make c d e, d e f, etc.

[echo wasp]

damn

[sonic heart]

I just got "hi Seq. " for them

[echo wasp]

125xx ?

[chilly fulcrum]

Damn I grinder codepoints for ages and none others worked, but I guess it proves it’s not a one off

[trim pond]

lol

[sonic heart]

Neal must have changed something

[chilly fulcrum]

Yes it was! I spent literal hours trying to get d e f

and failed

I tried everything even remotely obvious

[trim pond]

I think we should just combine with random U+12xxx

[chilly fulcrum]

it never let me add f to de or d to ef

[echo wasp]

you added 30eco into the shet alr right

[chilly fulcrum]

129xx for nata but sure

[trim pond]

lol didn't notice it was eco

[chilly fulcrum]

unless you change

[trim pond]

also

[echo wasp]

cant believe 3xxxx is now feasible

[sonic heart]

oh i did "hi Seq. de" + Seq. f, which gave me "hi Seq. def"

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah sure but like by that point there was so many options the odds of being able to try that among the mess is near zero

[sonic heart]

it doesnt turn into a mess tho

[chilly fulcrum]

but also I just don’t think I could get it in the seq

well every option I try is +1 mess

[echo wasp]

my sheets lagging real hard

[chilly fulcrum]

like dr dr. Mr. Mr “” “Mr “ “hi Mr” etc etc

so many options

literally hundreds of them

[sonic heart]

what the fuck

[chilly fulcrum]

sorry I didn’t insert commas

[neat haven]

doctor junior

[chilly fulcrum]

but every binary choice you have multiplies the mess by 2

[chilly fulcrum]

Honestly, yes

[chilly fulcrum]

And there’s about 3 or 4 of these, and a few choices that are far more complex than binary

spirals out into the hundreds and thousands very very fast

[chilly fulcrum]

hm, was a large amount of data input at once?

or some large edit

It usually only lags with input tool for me as the changes catch up

[sonic heart]

i dont even have dr and jr

i just have mr, mrs, and seq

[chilly fulcrum]

well I’d only get there after about 10-20 hours

Like total last resort

but I already burned through about 3 of those hours

[trim pond]

hey asd you deleted my entry points

i mean replaced

but

[chilly fulcrum]

May I see?

[echo wasp]

oh sry, you cant replace them back

i just pasted everything down

csn*

[trim pond]

ooh ok

[echo wasp]

can*

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah paste does override

[trim pond]

well ig it is fine

it was like 30 chars from the fist entry point

[chilly fulcrum]

entries can be kept in alt, preferably continuing chain is what i put as the main recipe

unless it’s start of block in which case I always prioritise entry

that’s how I do it but I won’t like worry about it if you do it other ways

[sonic heart]

i wonder what the top 5 most common emojis for unicode chars are

[sonic heart]

❌ ❓ 🤔 are prob in it

[trim pond]

yeah bcs if someone wants a specific codepoint, then they don't have to increment as much

[chilly fulcrum]

❌ ❓🤔 🔄 🚫 is my guess

someone make a script or something to check

Maybe also could count how many times the emoji is itself (but don’t take away from the others counts for this)

[lethal nymph]

from the 8k chars i have

556 undefined because i recovered them from backups lol

[chilly fulcrum]

what is after those

[chilly fulcrum]

cool

So I got the reverse one not too bad

Can you also run a count of when the emoji is just itself and compare that

Although have it as like a bonus where it counts for both self emoji and x emoji for example if you have the X character

I might test my save for it too

[echo wasp]

first ever 31xxx char when

[lethal nymph]

Object.entries(save.elements.reduce((a, e) => ([...e.text].length === 1 && (a[e.emoji] ??= 0, a[e.emoji]++), a), {})).sort((a, b) => b[1] - a[1])```

[echo wasp]

we are less than 500 chars away

[trim pond]

can you increment past the barrier?

oh wait

[echo wasp]

you can try

[trim pond]

i thought we were 30fxx fsr

[chilly fulcrum]

Nata did your thing finish

[lethal nymph]

no i spent some time working on the code

so it's only at 1e rn

forgot to check if they are characters

[echo wasp]

oh and can you try to go past 30eff?

[trim pond]

did you try?

[echo wasp]

I cant see stuff on mobile

[trim pond]

what? you are playing on mobile?

ok

[echo wasp]

yeah I left the pc just now

[trim pond]

k

[chilly fulcrum]

What does that actually mean? idk how you did the deduplication but depending on how you did it it could mean many things

[lethal nymph]

currently at 39 + [utils, 39-3f]

[chilly fulcrum]

ok

[lethal nymph]

yea it's done

[echo wasp]

cool

[lethal nymph]

absolutely no fd

wait no

yea no fds lol

[echo wasp]

lol

[abstract marsh]

i was having an idea of reviving alot of u+xxxx so automations unicode tools + u+xxxx can be run without worry
but nah, im not that motivated

[chilly fulcrum]

Ha

[echo wasp]

hmm 3xxxx still very very luck based

[abstract marsh]

gacha craft

[trim pond]

imagine [U+30efc] + Next Codepoint = [U+30f0]

[echo wasp]

wait whay

[abstract marsh]

very unlikely to happen yeah

[trim pond]

oh and I found these while combining to get 3xxxx

[echo wasp]

i probably also got a lot of them

[sonic heart]

oh theres actually an end quote

[chilly fulcrum]

Rare

what was the recipe I’m curious

[chilly fulcrum]

lol

It actually must have messed up

Like genuinely output an invalid sequence

And not been cut off

[sonic heart]

my board rn

[chilly fulcrum]

So few

[sonic heart]

hmm...

7c 7d 7e 7f + Previous Letter = 40 41 42 43

[trim pond]

do you think 7d 7e 7f 40 + Next Letter would make 7d 7e 7f 80?

[sonic heart]

good idea

i was gonna try 8c 8d 8e 8f + Previous Letter

[trim pond]

i tried it like once or twice but

didn't do anything. but I didn't try enquoted

also it was with kangxi

[sonic heart]

1 more fffd

[sonic heart]

makes 41 42 43 44

[trim pond]

hm... oh well

[sand coral]

1D8B0

[sand coral]

Cjk Ideographs Extension and U+1D1C1
"hi Cjk Ideographs " here: #1206592567622373446 message

[graceful marsh]

Shaking my head Türkiye Body Odor

[sand coral]

none of them are mine

[sonic heart]

dude 1f080 is so difficult

[untold crystal]

A few random stuff

[sonic heart]

1fa03

[graceful marsh]

Man went backwards

Unbelievable

[sonic heart]

yes

that is what i was hoping would happen lol

[pulsar island]

u+1eca, u+1ecb

u+1ef1 (dead element)

forgot to add

[pulsar island]

Nice nice

[trim pond]

made these. But I didn't get anything interesting from them.

[trim pond]

and this one is also quite useless

[chilly fulcrum]

Waa I tried for so long to make variation selector-17 but appending every letter took a big toll

[chilly fulcrum]

ok was 129xx all madr

[sage wren]

mdr

[chilly fulcrum]

he

What

okay

[sonic heart]

i think i have an amazing idea on how to get 1fa00

[chilly fulcrum]

1af00 by any chance?

[sonic heart]

maybe(?)

[trim pond]

wdym?

i did extensions

which isn't real but I thought it might work

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah fair but I was on trackpad

I hated having to append every letter

I gave up in the end

[trim pond]

well I don't even have all of them

only all of Selector Extension

if anyone wants I can share the recipes

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah sure I tried to shortcut it but I couldn’t do better than append every letter

variation selectors supplement is real though

[trim pond]

yes

but all of them give either the family emojis, japanese symbols emoji or like other U+1d/1fxxx

like most of the time

the only promising one was Selector Extension, but it gave pretty low codepoints

but you can try

just wait couple mins

[sonic heart]

dude i cant find how to get delete the "alphabet" anywhere

alright found it

[sonic heart]

fuck it doesnt work 😔

i used fa00 to try to cheese the game into giving me 1fa00

but i guess that only happens with f9xx

Adlam Unicode

adlam

[trim pond]

Variation Selector A-N, Variation Selector Extension, Variation Selector Extension B-O/U-Z, Selector Extension A-Z, Variation Selectors Supplement

[sonic heart]

random

[echo wasp]

very random indeed

[echo wasp]

idk did anyone else help

1292x - 1298x not done

[chilly fulcrum]

I guess not

[echo wasp]

we should do all of 12xxx

/j

[chilly fulcrum]

Feel free

[echo wasp]

12xxx actually does give a lot of 3xxxx

[sonic heart]

adlam unicode is giving me a shit ton of unicode chars (they were all on the sheet apart from 2 arabic and some adlam chars)

[echo wasp]

how did I make so many 4xxx mistakes

[sonic heart]

literally every single codepoint i try is giving me a different unicode

[echo wasp]

whoops

uhhh no one saw that right

[sonic heart]

?

[echo wasp]

ok gr8

[echo wasp]

codepoint anagramming!

[sonic heart]

accidental codepoint programming!*

wait lemme see if other 02dx work

ok ig not

[chilly fulcrum]

surprising

make sure the font is consistent

ctrl + shift v ensures this usually

[sonic heart]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

do you see the font is changing all the time where u are rn

[sonic heart]

no...?

[chilly fulcrum]

try 2 rows below where you are now

[sonic heart]

the default sheet font is noto sans

[chilly fulcrum]

what is that intended to show

i see this

[sonic heart]

the fonts are different

[chilly fulcrum]

ye

[sonic heart]

i just type into the sheet, so it keeps the normal font

just keep using next codepoint until 1eebb

[chilly fulcrum]

typing into the sheet should keep noto

[sonic heart]

yeah

the cjk stuff isnt noto

[chilly fulcrum]

indeed, it wont actually tell me the font

it says "blank"

ah ok

its arial

anyway try keep noto plz if you can

not huge deal but its easy to fix even if u mess up literally a million times you can just highlight it all and set noto

1f030 clearer demo

(idk had to find something to do thats useful, but its really a cope cause nothing new rn)

[sonic heart]

you should try to find some stuff in 1exxx

[chilly fulcrum]

i did before, no luck tho

[sonic heart]

just try to make "nyiakeng unicode" or smth like that

[chilly fulcrum]

alr alr got some new finds

[sonic heart]

10d00 (too lazy to continue the chain)

[chilly fulcrum]

georgian small letters only missing 2 now

dont think i can get 0f and 10

for whatever reason they are just hard

[chilly fulcrum]

ok @echo wasp was there any shortcuts for 129xx or did you just make all the x0 and xa with "..u-" and increment from those

[echo wasp]

no

[echo wasp]

anyways do the rest

all of 12xxx would be nice, tho it might be too much work

hmmm could it possibly be automated

[chilly fulcrum]

finished

did 12900-9f cause the extras took minimal time

[echo wasp]

now do 12xxx 😈

[chilly fulcrum]

a few mini shortcuts

e.g. 30030

consistent

now 9 recipes for 30000

so still trapped in that area but at least consistent response

if you want to get started on 12xxx feel free

256 down, 3840 to go

ill help when i can

[abstract marsh]

do we had all A to Z for that one?

[chilly fulcrum]

yes

we can run all 129xx vs a-z

• some other tools

[tepid blaze]

why do cloudlfare have to be annoying -_-

[sand coral]

mobile Kiwi browser knows these characters

[chilly fulcrum]

i dont know how much of it is the browser and how much is just you have the font installed

any chance you could optimise cjk ideographs? or have a try? i did try but didnt get much

[sand coral]

I have this #1206592567622373446 message

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah thats what i want to improve on

cjk extensions i have a really nice route for

but only from cjk ideographs

hang on

might be getting something

Hmm

I have cjkideographs quickly but it’s not FD so it’s clearly been tried already

I can’t add space

[sage wren]

wtf is the difference

[sand coral]

The insides

[sage wren]

😨

[chilly fulcrum]

grr

like actually what can i even do

[echo wasp]

mine doesnt

plz tell me what font

[echo wasp]

one is 简体, one is 繁体

specifically 30edd is the simplified version

[chilly fulcrum]

now i got them jr and sr

i didnt intend to

it just appended jr

[lethal nymph]

oh my laptop also renders extension G i think

[chilly fulcrum]

for some reason

[lethal nymph]

i'll check the font later

[sand coral]

idk how to check the font on android

[echo wasp]

I like how it went from unicode to AWWO

[chilly fulcrum]

i got it

Optimised CJK Ideographs, CJK Ideographs Extension A

[echo wasp]

I like how my method is prolly less steps from stuff that is needed to be proivded

wait nvm

we still missing 3106c

(most complex cjk char in unicode I think)

[chilly fulcrum]

delete the 'mr.' is a real killer for your route other than that it’s okay

[sage wren]

christ..

Do you think anyone ever actually uses this character or its just used once in some really old text

[echo wasp]

???

it's only 3 steps

plus my route for Cjk Ideographs doesnt include that, Cjk Ideographs Unicode does

[chilly fulcrum]

Alfo needed a bit of preparation to get it - oh what it doesn’t include? huh what am I looking at then

only route I know used it till now

[echo wasp]

it is + Remove The Mr.

not remove the "mr.", that's for a completely separate thing

[chilly fulcrum]

where

I only saw one with delete the 'mr.'

[echo wasp]

Found this on wikipedia

[echo wasp]

...that is for a completely different thing lol

[sage wren]

where is it in that image

[echo wasp]

the black sign

seems very rarely used though

[sage wren]

honestly that placement for it doesnt really make much sense Is there any context where this character actually makes sense to be used

[sage wren]

Yeah i read the article already asd

i still stand on that point, when i say logical context i mean Everyday sentences not The name of a random ramen shop

[lethal nymph]

lol my laptop can do ext I

[lethal nymph]

which one is that

[echo wasp]

oh wait it's not even in unicode

[lethal nymph]

lol

this one is so tiny

let me check the font

[chilly fulcrum]

What is that one

[echo wasp]

not a unicode character

[chilly fulcrum]

So where is the good one? Sorry

[echo wasp]

nah its fine I think urs is better

i just looked at the height and forgot to take into account the distance and branches

[echo wasp]

yeah then prolly not used

[lethal nymph]

it's these fonts i think

[sage wren]

my phone only renders the tiny one lol

[echo wasp]

the other one is an image I think

[lethal nymph]

that's an image

[echo wasp]

alr

[sage wren]

oh what a cheapskate wikipedia is i wouldve forced unicode to add it before i write about it

[lethal nymph]

it's like 200mb when zipped

so i think you guys will have to find them yourself

or i can trace back to where i downloaded them

[sage wren]

Do the latter

[lethal nymph]

well that wasn't too hard it's literally saved on my google drive

[abstract marsh]

200mb when zipped
what the hell

[lethal nymph]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m0-WYAXbEz3lxJrti25ZvWv6LkHjMp2X/view

[chilly fulcrum]

zip the zip

[lethal nymph]

i don't remember going here..

[abstract marsh]

you're not yourself when you're hungry

[chilly fulcrum]

how to increment cjk ideographs extensions, just combine with previous once you have a and b.

did we catch up radu yet? i forgot tbh

[echo wasp]

better

bruh

[chilly fulcrum]

oh?

is that new?

[echo wasp]

which one

[lethal nymph]

not sure which one specifically, i just got all of them in the zip

[echo wasp]

yay new entrance

[chilly fulcrum]

nata have u started brute force yet

all 129xx is made

[echo wasp]

can we also do 123xx

maybe 125xx as well idk

[chilly fulcrum]

sure keep working on it, i cant rn but if you want more codepoints feel free to make

[echo wasp]

alr

[stoic bobcat]

your majesty theres a fourth bus coming

[chilly fulcrum]

😬

[lethal nymph]

oh no

by that you mean codepoints or characters

[sage wren]

Perchance.

[echo wasp]

codepoints

30d16

[lethal nymph]

with the cjk ext utils?

[echo wasp]

yea

[lethal nymph]

doing that now

[chilly fulcrum]

ok

26 * 256 = like 1h runtime

[echo wasp]

there's no way im adding this on the sheet

[chilly fulcrum]

i have worse

much worse

which i also will not add

they will get swept up with time

[echo wasp]

i wonder if this could be useful

[echo wasp]

doesnt seem useful

[trim pond]

I thought about making stuff like Cjk Ideographs Extension 3q/Q3/3p/P3/3m/M3

[echo wasp]

same

idk how to go about it

[trim pond]

yeah same

maybe string.replace('a', '3q') ?

it works for string.replace('a', 'b')

wait. hm.. 'a', 'c' also makes B

nvm

[echo wasp]

wow the 30eff is like not possible to break or smth

[chilly fulcrum]

oof

[chilly fulcrum]

How is it going? I estimated 1 hour runtime

[lethal nymph]

nice timing

and it's done

[chilly fulcrum]

only up to Q?

[lethal nymph]

no it was in progress

[chilly fulcrum]

oh ok

there will be loads and loads of 3000x I’m sure

[echo wasp]

why so many ' '

[lethal nymph]

wow a lot of fd

[echo wasp]

damn

2xxxx?

i assume so

[lethal nymph]

i'll check

[lethal nymph]

right wait what

oh they are 2FFFF

my terminal just doesn't render for some reason

[echo wasp]

ah

[lethal nymph]

more than 200 new chars i think

[night dragon]

nice

[echo wasp]

30eab

[lethal nymph]

only 2 3xxxx

[lethal nymph]

also it's 26 * 255 * 2

i test both ideographs and ideographic

[echo wasp]

ok wait I'll remove the unassigneds

also maybe unduplicate recipes ig (for personal use :))

[trim pond]

could you try combining all U+exx with Cjk Ideographs Extension A-Z ?

they seem to give high U+2xxxx unicodes

oh just got this

[lethal nymph]

are they alive?

[trim pond]

yes

I made all U+xxx

[lethal nymph]

nice

[echo wasp]

alright now get all of 12xxx

/j

[lethal nymph]

it's doing that now

[echo wasp]

fr

[chilly fulcrum]

Only 2 new ones right?

[lethal nymph]

yea i'm filtering by discovered

[chilly fulcrum]

in total there was likely thousands

Mostly dupes

Also if you don’t filter FD and just check sheet does anything change?

[echo wasp]

wdym sheet

[echo wasp]

I'd reckon there were many 300xxs

[lethal nymph]

i'll compare with sheet later

[echo wasp]

oh momentary brain death

[graceful marsh]

??? forgets where we are, who he is, why we're here

[echo wasp]

no ??? didn't!!!

[candid trellis]

who? I did asd … I did

[graceful marsh]

What was I talking about

[chilly fulcrum]

Sheet is a lie

Only fuezt db is real

[echo wasp]

?

lol I already know why -_-

[chilly fulcrum]

Elaborate facade

[chilly fulcrum]

damn whoever reacted to this with the highest visible assigned codepoints

tag letters

[echo wasp]

...isnt it regional indicators

[chilly fulcrum]

maybe, they render to me identical as tag just about

[echo wasp]

it is, the name is regional indicator (letter)

[echo wasp]

strange

what device u on

[dire cipher]

Hope this is the right place but I got 6 first discoveries with only one symbol is it worth posting here?

[graceful marsh]

If they've got recipes, sure

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah for sure, can be tricky to tell if it’s really one symbol or it’s hiding more but in any case it’s interesting

[tepid blaze]

wdym? it was all a lie, made by the Illuminati

[echo wasp]

sure if u have the recipes

[chilly fulcrum]

Even without I’d love to see them

[tame violet]

Which ones

[echo wasp]

no one's added these yet right, going to do so if no

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah I don’t think they were

[echo wasp]

k

[dire cipher]

It is on My chromebook I can make screenshots In 4 days

[echo wasp]

i think we can trust the recipes right

[graceful marsh]

You can

What

[chilly fulcrum]

sometimes I go like ah but it will be found with a cleaner chain nooo imperfect recipe but it’s fine it will get relegated to alt after the natural course unfolds

and the true start of chain is found

[chilly fulcrum]

? What

[graceful marsh]

"I can make screenshots in 4 days"

[chilly fulcrum]

Oh

average Chromebook moment

although I would rather wait the 4 days before saying anything xd

[graceful marsh]

Oh I've only considered that they mean they don't have access to their Chromebook for 4 days

I thought they meant taking a screenshot takes 4 days

[dire cipher]

English is not My first language so sorry for the misconception and I am not in the same place as My chromebook is so in four days I have My chromebook again and I have 10000 elements and around 3000 fd’s

[graceful marsh]

Fair enough

Do you remember what the characters are at least

[dire cipher]

It is in Sanskrit

I found one element not fd and combined that whit some normal elements

I made Sanskrit using the element Hindi

[graceful marsh]

Ah

Those are likely not single characters

[dire cipher]

What do you mean?

[thin warren]

The elements should only be one character long

[dire cipher]

It is

[graceful marsh]

The Indic scripts in general, and Devanagari in particular (which is what I assume you found) are cursive scripts - entire words can appear like single characters, but they're not

[dire cipher]

So they are worthless?

[chilly fulcrum]

only way to know is to actually check the save

[neat haven]

i know nothing about sanskrit

[graceful marsh]

Thanks Riation

[chilly fulcrum]

No not necessarily - we just don’t know enough info to say

[graceful marsh]

Did we not 100% Devanagari or am I misremembering?

[neat haven]

but telling the difference between a with a combining diacritic and a precomposed character by just looking at it is difficult at best

[chilly fulcrum]

it’s not particularly likely in my opinion to be useful but there’s always a chance

[dire cipher]

Thanks for the help

[tepid blaze]

that why MBS (or using a program to check the unicode character is useful in such case)

[chilly fulcrum]

Anytime, make sure you check those out when you can

[dire cipher]

Yes as fast as possible

[echo wasp]

done with the 7xxxs

[graceful marsh]

Do we have any 18xxxs by the way?

Can't check sheet right now

[echo wasp]

no

[graceful marsh]

Damb

[echo wasp]

nothing from 17fc0 - 1afff lol

[chilly fulcrum]

unless we put in a targeted effort all as a team we may not get any for a very very long time

[dire cipher]

A other question I do not now how to call it but I have around 4 one character first discoveries with the logo when a symbol isn’t showen right like a square with a cross worth it to post?

[chilly fulcrum]

hard to know what you mean, like we just gotta see

It’s always worth it

[graceful marsh]

Could you ask that question in your native language

[chilly fulcrum]

Don’t hesitate to send stuff

[candid trellis]

Doe maar in het Nederlands

Voor uit te leggen

[chilly fulcrum]

don’t ever not send stuff if there’s something weird - we want to know! we would much rather answer the same question a lot, instead of a chance of missing out on new finds

[dire cipher]

Ik heb rond De vier first discoveries van een symbool waar het teken gewoon een rechthoek met twee diagonale lijnen is

[candid trellis]

Ah dat is oftewel omdat die unassigned zijn in unicode of omdat je text style of font of whatever het niet kan zien

[thin warren]

oh i get it now

[graceful marsh]

Twee diagonale lijnen did it for me

[thin warren]

Same lol

[chilly fulcrum]

An

Ah

yeah

not rendering due to either not assigned or no font

Only way to know which one it is: check by pasting output

[candid trellis]

Do you have helper script @dire cipher

[chilly fulcrum]

if you aren’t sure always send it

[lethal nymph]

exx run is done

[echo wasp]

nice

[echo wasp]

i originally wanted to finsih all the chinas here, but i think i'll scrap that 😅

finish* chains*

brent do ur job

[candid trellis]

???

[echo wasp]

#1261714271528685578 :))))

[graceful marsh]

You're supposed to be his typewriter monkey

[thin warren]

Come on Brent

Just do the thing

[echo wasp]

so imma just add all the fds in the shet

[candid trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/dick-button-gif-13951987

[tepid blaze]

hmm that 讠 look like a i (just got fd on it, that why i say that)

[graceful marsh]

Pick the left one

[lethal nymph]

(fds only)

[chilly fulcrum]

there’s still potential useful information in non-fds

[lethal nymph]

yea i know

i'm just too lazy to open sheet and download the tsvs right now

[chilly fulcrum]

what if you just sent them all

[lethal nymph]

fair enough

[chilly fulcrum]

Also there’s an easy way to automate this

[lethal nymph]

have this

[chilly fulcrum]

permanent download links can be ran by code

Fuezt has some

you can look up how to make one

or find one I sent

Mobile so can’t really check myself

[chilly fulcrum]

Can it be made text and sorted the same way?

[lethal nymph]

well json should be easier to work with programmatically

[chilly fulcrum]

sure although on mobile I can’t really do anything with it (not even read it)

can open in Zoom apparently

(It doesn’t do anything)

[graceful marsh]

What

[echo wasp]

btw is there a way to add these into the shet faster

[chilly fulcrum]

well, there is the input tool

[lethal nymph]

(this includes non-cjk stuff)

[echo wasp]

but that requires everything on console, no?

[lethal nymph]

..i should probably filter out the self referencing recipes

nvm i already have them filtered out

thank you past me

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah it does, requires you to make them which is a bit annoying for non chains like this

[graceful marsh]

Does this make up for past you's transgressions

[chilly fulcrum]

but I can arrange a way to add them probably

may need nata to help a bit with it, but in theory nothing should stop it working just like input tool

although it would be maybe slightly easier to break

Of course you can fake input tool input easily but it’s just easier to do for this case

easier to go wrong since it’s not directly tied to game is what I’m saying

the input tool since you copy from game would require quite an exceptional event to make a mistake

one thing I’ve noticed is that of all the invalids so far, 0 are from input tool

[chilly fulcrum]

One thing that would be cool is to enlist yuis experience and just have a really nice tool where you upload that save and bam it’s added

[echo wasp]

well its kinda unlikely (for me) to add in a chain of 1.2k elements manually and not have a mistake or two

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah of course

I make tons of manual mistakes

[echo wasp]

current progress lol
if anyone wants to add some go ahead

[chilly fulcrum]

What is this

come on internet

[echo wasp]

ntsq recipes

- those ive already added

[chilly fulcrum]

I see did you just remove em

also everything is down to 1 recipe now

[echo wasp]

ye

[chilly fulcrum]

hm ok

[echo wasp]

also it doesnt include the exx ones

[chilly fulcrum]

nothing wrong with removing other recipes, although my perfectionist self would always pick the lowest letter

[echo wasp]

uh thats what i did

[chilly fulcrum]

Ok

[sand coral]

2587

[echo wasp]

gonna get all of 123xx codepoints

[echo wasp]

...

why does it still give 3xxxx lol

[abstract marsh]

anything is possible i guess 🗿, probs might want to expand the range

[echo wasp]

yay done with 123xx

[abstract marsh]

dedications

[echo wasp]

ah yes, U+123GG

[neat haven]

how do you get yunikode

[abstract marsh]

good question, lemme load the save file from my phone to check it

nvm 11june's save file doesnt have it
gotta go home and check main save file later

[neat haven]

alright

[abstract marsh]

https://ib.zptr.cc/item/01j561cge4jfqkkb1zf6dx3e8p
lmao what

[echo wasp]

doesn't seem to work that well but ifk

idk

[sand coral]

1FB40
highest codepoint on the main sheet let's go

oh not the highest actually 🙂

[echo wasp]

yeah idt that record is gonna beat beaten for a long time

cuz after segmented digit 9 is e0001 :))

[echo wasp]

oh yeah and can you do 123xx next

[lethal nymph]

remind me tomorrow

[echo wasp]

k

[sand coral]

1FB51

[trim pond]

nice, how did you make that?

and does it seem to work?

[echo wasp]

not that well

idk haven't tried that much

[echo wasp]

I don't quite remember. Was something like

"hi Mr. Cjk Ideographs Extension1" + Remove The Mr. = Cjk Ideographs Extension1 
Cjk Ideographs Extension1 + Extension 1 = Cjk Ideographs Extension 1
Cjk Ideographs Extension 1 + String.append('a') = Cjk Ideographs Extension 1a```

[trim pond]

ok

[sand coral]

1FB80

[trim pond]

was there an easy way to get "hi Mr. Cjk Ideographs Extension" ? cause Extension is quite hard to get in quotation marks. i feel like

wait no it must've been something a bit different cause that is over 30 chars

i will try stuff

[echo wasp]

#1206592567622373446 message

[trim pond]

it increments if you combine it with Next Codepoint / with the prev. one

but only the letter

I don't know how to increment the number

[echo wasp]

to get 2 you have to combine 1 with sequel 2

then just append the a

[trim pond]

ok 1z + Next Alphabet makes 2a

also ig

and then you can get 3x by combining 1x + 2x = 3x

nvm not for all

but for some

[echo wasp]

if you get 3a it prolly is good enough to get the whole alphabet

[untold crystal]

Nope. As I don't play this game so much anymore (and only post 1-2 recipes per day) I don't think its worth it

[trim pond]

yeah, you can just do 1a + 2a = 3a, and then 3a + 3b = 3

ok got this, so ig it could find something new

[echo wasp]

ooo

nata time to do more brutrforce!!

[trim pond]

it was already in the spreadsheet btw

[echo wasp]

yeah

but proves it can be usefuk

useflu

useful

[trim pond]

I got 1a - 3z

yeah

or maybe just U+12363 is useful

[echo wasp]

idk, needs a bit more testing
when I tried some of the 1x, it didn't seem to work as well tho

[trim pond]

yea

I think we also need to find better U+ codepoints

like bruteforcing random two/three of them from every range. like all U+x, U+xx, then two from every U+0xx-U+fxx, and then for 4 and 5 long ones

and see which ones give 3xxxx

or 2fxxx

[echo wasp]

I saw on the cjk sheet that someone did some stuff with 00xx

[trim pond]

hm..

interesting

I did I think U+98 which game high ones too

not sure if it was above 2efff though

[echo wasp]

all of U+xx and U+xxx are found right

[trim pond]

yes

and revived

and I think all of U+x too

if I am not mistaken

jk

this one is quite interesting

[echo wasp]

uh

[trim pond]

but yeah, almost all of the time U+1293r just returns itself.

[abstract marsh]

i thought you were repeating this conversation
turn out i was sent to the past by discord 😭

[sonic heart]

musical symbols unicode

U+1D240 to 1d245

[sonic heart]

1fa4c and gap between 1fa54 and 1fa5f

[sonic heart]

1d479

[sonic heart]

i am going clinically insane trying to get the q for this alphabet

[chilly fulcrum]

Hi seq mr… I mean come on that’s one of literal thousands of options

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm

[sonic heart]

FUCK

WHY

i give up ffs

[echo wasp]

?

[sage wren]

rubiksmath is pondering.

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah I just saw I’ll try to make - you guys used it right for a new entry?

[sonic heart]

u+1d492

👀

almost 25%

[graceful marsh]

What were we on last month?

[sage wren]

Unicode

[sonic heart]

1d4fa

[echo wasp]

..no?

[chilly fulcrum]

idk, but progress on main sheet has slowed to a crawl due to lack of 18xxx

[sonic heart]

im just getting random gaps

[chilly fulcrum]

mostly cjk now

[graceful marsh]

It's quite odd it hasn't had a single breakthrough

I've been thrown into the empty voids countless times and yet for a charset it should know about it refuses

[chilly fulcrum]

it does know but it just swaps out the 8 for a 0

khitan elements make it give old turkic

it definitely knows what is khitan but it just doesnt know how to say it

kinda like being unable to pronounce something

khitan = 18cxx

old turkic = 10cxx

its the same reason that for tangut it sometimes swaps the 7 for an f

but yeah given i literally have U+16000

which is nowhere near anything

it would make sense for it to surely give eventually 18xxx, but perhaps the fact that it knows its assigned is actually hurting us

like, i bet if it didnt know then wed have it

but because it does actually know, its fumbling its words and mixing them up

[sonic heart]

dude i just cannot get the u

[chilly fulcrum]

is hi seq mr like the first things you try now

[sonic heart]

yes

💀

sus

[chilly fulcrum]

quoted? cool

[chilly fulcrum]

o.o so zoomed in but you fit everything

where do all the fails go

[sage wren]

when the 𝓲𝓶𝓹𝓸𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓻 is 𝓼𝓾𝓼

[chilly fulcrum]

so few...

[sonic heart]

IT KEEPS EATING THE U

i have to go to sleep, this is how far i got

[chilly fulcrum]

su

[echo wasp]

AI being AI.

[echo wasp]

most cjks come from me now lol

[echo wasp]

just build the lineage as u go

[chilly fulcrum]

ill get it eventually i hope

[sonic heart]

Can someone get the u please? :))

[chilly fulcrum]

will try later

[echo wasp]

mandotory reminder to do it

[chilly fulcrum]

i may try the u now

heres a kinda optimisation if you have add letter U:

got the u

i step

oh well

i was really hoping to get into a long hard lineage and finally win for once

but i couldnt quote it ot get nearly as deep is you did xd, anyway i got it i guess

more "complete"

oh

just + U works

lmao

nice

[tepid blaze]

that a funny timing, reviving tottaly randomly the next U+

[heady escarp]

(NEW) (FIRST EVER)

🙀

[tepid blaze]

💀 (NEW) doesn't mean its a fd too, that smth else

[heady escarp]

first ever means its fd?

what does new mean, not in unicode sheet maybe?

[tepid blaze]

nah, its just mean that its the first time i got it in my in my scrapping db

(even if i do have some things to add to the sheet)

[trim pond]

Tangut Component Unicode, Tangut Character

[lethal nymph]

yea that happens a lot

[heady escarp]

what is this recipe for?

[chilly fulcrum]

Shouldn’t those be nearly the same

[trim pond]

oh oops it is supposed to be 18 (actually 10 + 5 + 3 = 18)*

[chilly fulcrum]

Oh, unassigned?

[echo wasp]

oh yeah can u run the 123xx when ure free

[chilly fulcrum]

damn component isnt even in dug db..

[glad roost]

Idk is this right place to ask

but how do i get U+0101

[chilly fulcrum]

unpluralizer came in clutch

ah hm

[tepid blaze]

nah like my scrapping db is totaly smth else it just store recipe/result/emoji/fd of what i get when i am scrapping

[chilly fulcrum]

ohhh

[chilly fulcrum]

theres a section in the sheet for it

U+ codepoints

although its not had much work in the last 4 months ngl

did a bit just now to make it cleaner

as far as recipes for them in general, im hoping eventually we make that guide

trying to get string.append('ex')... (gone wrong)

damn im gonna have to check sheet

this one is hard

dude what

tangut component unicode giving me things 2040 from nearest assigned

insanity

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm, didnt i send a far easier tangut character?

tangut syllable, tangut word, tangut character, tangut sentence, tangut text, tangut unicode sentence, tangut unicode text, tangut character unicode

[tepid blaze]

that made me think, what if i also stored unnasigned/character that not even in any block in my db(or another db at least and made it possible to search for them)... still not sure how i will make it but eh

[trim pond]

yeah that is possible, I just thought I would share this recipe I found. Like if you wanted to get the elements there,then you could just combine them to get the Character. But yeah, your recipe is better

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah sure

ahhh too much on the board to combine

[chilly fulcrum]

also that recipe for 10 is right... it does just make component unicode 10

[echo wasp]

he already said it meant to be 18

oh

nvm

I'm stupid sry

[sonic heart]

💀

[chilly fulcrum]

should try make tangut component-18xxx names

cause they actually have names

need to like run chars hard against each other from different blocks maybe? unlikely tho

utf-8 game is my only idea but utf-8 is designed to be hard to run like that

a byte of 0x98 in position 2 it just wont do

"increment second byte" idk

[tepid blaze]

technically work (even if i have some things to fix)

[chilly fulcrum]

or we try again to barrier break 17bfx

[chilly fulcrum]

im getting these chars too

im wondering

what is it trying to achieve

there is nothing there

it is the second largest gap that exists (aside from tags)

[tepid blaze]

that a good question

[chilly fulcrum]

empty

18xxx = not empty

but it switches it out

[tepid blaze]

that all those i got during scrapping for CJK

[chilly fulcrum]

ffff 💀

[echo wasp]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

? ?

i wonder did anyone make 15xxx

[trim pond]

wait lol. it is meant to be 10 + 5 + 3 = 18

[chilly fulcrum]

okay

made these (cant pass O)

[sand coral]

A2C0

[chilly fulcrum]

damn.. so deep

[sand coral]

A300

[echo wasp]

mostly is just separating a2c0

[chilly fulcrum]

yes

thats deep

regardless of what its doing

i swear this is like the only hope for 18xxx...

somehow get it to like

steal parts

oh wait thats a 0 not a D

💀

[chilly fulcrum]

thinking of adding some kind of casing marker or explanation on faq

for which is the """""alive""""" version

[tepid blaze]

with all the thing i could list for the moment

[echo wasp]

who has been bruteforcing these?

[chilly fulcrum]

can always check

[graceful marsh]

Jimothy

[chilly fulcrum]

dude what

thats scary

[echo wasp]

20bff

[echo wasp]

so did u find out who it was

[chilly fulcrum]

you can check

edit history

[echo wasp]

ok i think is fuezt

[chilly fulcrum]

you think

ok

[echo wasp]

i wish there was a way to add these in quicker

[chilly fulcrum]

from nata?

ye

well

heres the thing

consider blocks

if you have a bunch of entries into a block, not relevant usually

the earliest one is the only one that matters

[echo wasp]

i am doing it

[chilly fulcrum]

hm ok

[echo wasp]

20xxx is so annoying to increment

[tepid blaze]

probably

[echo wasp]

mose definitely

where r u at rn

[tepid blaze]

yeah it was me even got the fd on it

[tepid blaze]

U+1269
but technically i didn't do it with all Cjk Ideographic Extensions from A to Z so

[echo wasp]

until what letter?

[tepid blaze]

A to E

[echo wasp]

alr

[sonic heart]

u+1d558

[chilly fulcrum]

Delete the Mr wow

I’ve never seen that be used

clutch

Wait how do you normally get rid of the seq

[sonic heart]

delete first word

[sonic heart]

the "less effective" tools somehow work better when removing the mr. from "hi Seq. Mr. x"

[graceful marsh]

I've noticed that

Same witj "hi Mr. " -> "hi "

It's funny that there's somehow levels of effectiveness in this game

[sonic heart]

1d575

[echo wasp]

only left with 2cxxx now

[sonic heart]

i wonder if theres gonna be more undocumented hangul chars than main ones

[echo wasp]

we need to prevent that from happening