Unicode

[chilly fulcrum]

wait ok im looking for the 2fff0 entry

[golden ferry]

U+2FFF

[chilly fulcrum]

i have 2f970

[echo wasp]

here

[chilly fulcrum]

ah ok

where did you enter again? you had something up near that high right

[echo wasp]

I had 2f9ff

#1206592567622373446 message

[golden ferry]

[U+2FFFF] + [U+FFFE] fails

gives [U+2FFFF]

[echo wasp]

those are the chars right

[golden ferry]

yep

that should be character notation, makes it easier to understand

[echo wasp]

alr

[graceful marsh]

What about «U+2FFFF»

[golden ferry]

i can't type that

[graceful marsh]

Exactly

[echo wasp]

《U+2FFFF》

[golden ferry]

"U+2FFFF"

[echo wasp]

【U+2FFFF】

[golden ferry]

「U+2FFFF」

[graceful marsh]

‘U+2FFFF‚

[golden ferry]

=/[«《"【{「(‘U+2FFFF‚)」}】"》»]/=

[graceful marsh]

»U+2FFFF«

Apparently Lojban quotes are lu U+2FFFF li'u

[sage wren]

【 «‘(《“｛< [。 \「 U+2FFFF」/ 。] >｝”》)’» 】 is the only correct way to write it

[graceful marsh]

Final boss

[sage wren]

infinite crafters vs. U+2FFFF

[graceful marsh]

We can't even defeat a single period

[robust sparrow]

just use U+002e + #ConvertToUnicode GENIUS

I know it doesnt work

[graceful marsh]

Oh wow it worked

[chilly fulcrum]

i just use {}

[graceful marsh]

Nice

Good job

On another note

I've been doing some testing with the Llama chatbot to get it to create the sequence {space}{control character}{linebreak}

It's not technically impossible but the input involves those characters in it, so... Yeah

[chilly fulcrum]

bruh what

how did you get it

[graceful marsh]

Essentially just repeat after me: that sequence

I know Nata already showed they weren't impossible outputs

Still, interesting to see

[robust sparrow]

SEE now do that with U+003d , to get =

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah fair

[robust sparrow]

it totally doesnt work or anything

[quick comet]

How can one get unicode numbers?

[chilly fulcrum]

what exactly are you after? can you give an example?

[chilly fulcrum]

what cuneiform ranges arent done - sheet obv isnt updated and i dont want to waste time

[abstract marsh]

i wonder if thats the reason the sudden unicode grind went active

[echo wasp]

soon enough, u will have to ; ;

3b40

3b00

2a6a5

[echo wasp]

two more

3b60

lol

[abstract marsh]

interesting
try u+32f0

nvm i forgot which unicode the last one i couldnt manage to get

[chilly fulcrum]

oh you got 2fffe?

[echo wasp]

yeah

[chilly fulcrum]

where is the recipe for it

[echo wasp]

nowhere

[chilly fulcrum]

i like how the fact it has fe and its in cjk makes it go ah yes

big cjk ending in fe

[echo wasp]

I mean, it is llama ai

[trim pond]

I don't even know what to say.... 🫠 but U+2ECE found

[echo wasp]

what is that bro

lol

[trim pond]

All CJK Radicals are now done 🎉

[abstract marsh]

nice

how many radicals is there... i wonder if its possible to make actual cjk with radicals

[graceful marsh]

Are you saying we should try to... "craft" the characters?

[abstract marsh]

def bad idea to find new unicodes 💀

[trim pond]

U+2F2A, all Mr. (character) without a recipe are crafted like (character) + Prepend Mr.

[untold crystal]

So have you all ditched the u+ method and decided to craft the elements?

[echo wasp]

lol

also why does radu have pfp now lol

[dusky lynx]

Woah

[untold crystal]

Why not?

[chilly fulcrum]

why does this give a char lol

discord search gives a blank for unicode sumerian and sumerian unicode

oof

[chilly fulcrum]

damn whats the deal wih this - you get up to 5 chars

idk this cuneiform seems hard i cant break in at all

trying at a range im pretty sure isnt touched

12500

maybe its a hrd range

[graceful marsh]

Cuneiform + U+2642 should be all that's really necessary with my/Alfo's method

I don't think I even have Sumerian Unicode

[chilly fulcrum]

so how am i supposed to get into where im after - like i have 1202d already

and a lot of yours

cause i put them in

[graceful marsh]

What's the names?

That's where I'd start

[chilly fulcrum]

well i just picked 12500 and i couldnt make "lak-608" so i had to make it curly

idk it wouldnt make it even with string.append

but i could try a better entry

[graceful marsh]

Perhaps

It is a different block

[chilly fulcrum]

if i go back then theres lagab times zu over zu

[graceful marsh]

Hmm

My approach may find a problem here

Multiwords work less well

[chilly fulcrum]

didnt you get some of those anyway

with times and stuff

[graceful marsh]

Yes, by incrementing from base forms

Lugal Opposing from Lugal

Problem is there are no base forms in supplemental

S'kinda the point

[chilly fulcrum]

i see

is that all past 12400

the supplemental

[graceful marsh]

Early Dynastic is 12480 starting IIRC

I can't remember if there's a gap between it and numbers

[chilly fulcrum]

new closest to "lak-608" dude this is so hard to make maybe i should use inst

ok well i guess ill go back

theres numeric signs a bit earlier

who knows some of the junk i have might have new things but its not too easy to check rn

interesting 72 + 𒀭 = 𒀭𒋾𒊭𒆳

random generator

[graceful marsh]

I wonder if you could make a script for situations like this that allows you to input a list of characters and it tells you if they're present in any elements you have so far

You'd need to make the list yourself if the sheet isn't up to date though...

[trim pond]

U+1F35E - reference for the sheet

[trim pond]

yeah that would be cool. Cause like with the Cuneiform, I had to paste each character one by one to see if I had any elements from a given range. Or like even a tool that would let you search by unicode values directly for the elements. So you could search for U+2FFFE by typing in 2FFFE for example.

[graceful marsh]

Now that I think about it

[chilly fulcrum]

Do those form a sequence of characters in a row is that what you were going for? That’s kinda smart

[graceful marsh]

Let me go perform surgery on Natasquare real quick

[chilly fulcrum]

like giving more of the sequence

I had not considered this

[trim pond]

yeah. but it is not always easy to make a sequence. Also with emojis, some ranges don't want to make Mr. (emoji) with my methods

so you either have to make Mr. (emoji) with some previous character and increment, or give up

[chilly fulcrum]

Interesting remove first character helped

if to avoid fffd yeah that’s totally fair

[graceful marsh]

Alfo could you run this in console

save = JSON.parse(localStorage.getItem("infinite-craft-data"));
console.table(Array(922).fill().map((_, i) => [_=String.fromCharCode(0xD808, 0xDC00
+i), _=save.elements.filter((e) => e.text.toLowerCase().includes(_)).length]));

(yes I butchered Nata's tool from like weeks ago)

[echo wasp]

whats that

[graceful marsh]

An idea

[echo wasp]

oh i see

all cuneiforms thingy

[graceful marsh]

Yeah

I'm trying to figure out how to filter all 0s but I am not a person who does this stuff

[trim pond]

ok did it, it printed a table with the counts of elements that include the elements I would guess

[graceful marsh]

Yeah

Still not useful though

[chilly fulcrum]

Regex search

with regex search it’s trivial but it’s only used in like dev branches

[trim pond]

well at least you know that you have that element, and you can easily copy it from the console

[chilly fulcrum]

nata might have some version with it

[graceful marsh]

Fair

I'd like to filter out the zeros though so you only get characters you have

[echo wasp]

U+23db, U+23d6, U+23d9 and U+1f398

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah I remember nata had yet another list and I didn’t even start that one

[abstract marsh]

alright i'll continue nata's list

[sonic heart]

how do i change something from curly quotes to straight ones?

[chilly fulcrum]

ask killerbowser I think he is very good at it

[echo wasp]

put it in jp quotes

[chilly fulcrum]

I just try to combine with Jp quotes (small success chance for longer strings)

[echo wasp]

then "[/inst]"

[chilly fulcrum]

I don’t know of another way to jp quote it o never did it much

[sonic heart]

~~oh no i dont wanna get "[/inst]" 😔 ~~

im trying to get ẟ in quotes to see if i can get ƍ

[echo wasp]

time to give ad another try :/

[final sable]

ƍ looks like an Unown from pokémon xD

[sonic heart]

lol

[final sable]

and the Pixar lamp ofc

[chilly fulcrum]

so is that a request now? Unown ƍ

💀 awwm

[final sable]

surely all pokemon are discovered??

[chilly fulcrum]

well I don’t think that’s a Pokémon if that’s what’s you’re asking

[final sable]

oh yeah aren’t they just called Ukown A, …, Z, ?, !

in that case getting Unown ƍ and stuff would be cool actually

as long as there’s a Unicode character that looks like each of them

[chilly fulcrum]

Lenny face brought to you by combining characters

[final sable]

yoo I never realised the project hit 15k :o

10k to 15k went so fast 😮

[abstract marsh]

interesting

[graceful marsh]

Very fun

[chilly fulcrum]

Latin extended a I revived

maybe can do similar

[graceful marsh]

And also, as you may have guessed, quite useless

[echo wasp]

Poseidon.

[chilly fulcrum]

waves

Very tenuous link but it’s there

[graceful marsh]

Heh

[echo wasp]

wow so normal

[abstract marsh]

bruh... whats wrong with Skimming

nvm my chrome single handleedly disconnected

but.. why

[chilly fulcrum]

internet disconnected

too powerful

[abstract marsh]

well it kept disconnecting, i guess no IC for me

[final sable]

I suspect that for completely unrelated recipes like this, Poseidon is always in the probably distribution (for obscure ingredients at least) and it’s just happening to get chosen with low probability

[abstract marsh]

looks like the browser is connected to IC now...

[final sable]

though if this theory is true it would definitively confirm that IC has feedback(!)

[final sable]

(that is, that previous crafts/elements effect future crafts/elements)

[echo wasp]

U+9084

U+5462 (def not accidental)

[abstract marsh]

amazing, i only had one elment out of all in this image

[graceful marsh]

By the way Rubiks

You were talking a while back about not wanting to use PTIQM because it would kill the element right

That's pretty easy to remedy now with Prepend Hashtag Lowercase as a preparatory step

[final sable]

Prepend Hashtag is goated compared to all other hashtagging tech fr

[untold crystal]

I usually hastag it (almost always twice) until the quotes dissappear then i use Put This In Quotation Marks

[trim pond]

what were you even trying to go for here 😂

[abstract marsh]

i'll grind remove first character later.... kept getting disconnected

[echo wasp]

alr

[echo wasp]

如果我還

more accurately

[trim pond]

oh ok, : )

[echo wasp]

U+83dc

(Delete Last Character also worked)

So that was def what I was going for :)

[robust sparrow]

cant wait for MBS update to auto translate chinese characters

[abstract marsh]

i should start finding tools to give me the unicode of images so i can try the lineage of these kind easier

[final sable]

new mbs isn’t coming until Helper 3

sooo 5 years 😃

[abstract marsh]

i wonder if 4lw going to be finished first or 5 year m

[final sable]

better question is 4lw or the game “dying”

presumably Neal isn’t gonna wanna pay for the servers forever :(

[trim pond]

do you think I should include the recipes for the elements or not? because they are very long

also it was not an FD, so someone else probably has a much easier recipe

[abstract marsh]

full lineage yeah, just put the link it to discord

until someone post a better recipe

[trim pond]

ok just found this simpler recipe

[abstract marsh]

yeah nice

[trim pond]

Lineage for U+2F16 - sheet reference

[untold crystal]

U+02C7 ˇ Caron

[trim pond]

U+34C0

[sonic heart]

jesus

[untold crystal]

almost all ethiopic syllables

AB01 is missing

from the block

[trim pond]

actually, is it more annoying to combine them all, or to delete the elements from the board?

[untold crystal]

I just delete them all using the button after I'm done and start with a blank canvas

if that's what you're asking

A little bit of homework for the editors

[sonic heart]

ƍ (U+018D)

[trim pond]

yeah I will be adding them as soon as I make them myself 😄

[sonic heart]

ơ (U+01A1)

[untold crystal]

I was not looking for this

[trim pond]

Huh? Unicode Extended?

[final sable]

ooo could be very useful

in fact that should be added to the brute force bots

[trim pond]

btw still can't figure out how to make that Cyrillic. Like this is what I have

[robust sparrow]

how you get Unicode Cyrillic Extended

I have Unicode Ethiopic Extended already

[trim pond]

um.. that is Unicod Cyrillic Extended

[final sable]

my bad it was Unicode Phonetic Extended I was thinking of, not Unicode Cyrillic Extended

[robust sparrow]

still how do you UNICOD Cyrillic Extended

[final sable]

you could try Fix Typo tech on unicode Cyrillic extended I guess 😅

[final sable]

I hate when the game trolls me like this. don’t let it get in your head xD

[trim pond]

Unicod Cyrillic Extended

[trim pond]

lineage for that anywhere?

[final sable]

uhh you can probably search the discord for it. if not, Chromatic tech should do the trick

don’t get too caught up on one element specifically—you could try Fix Typos or Fix The Typo(s) or Fix This Typo or Typo(s) Fixed too

also apparently Spellcheck and Spellchecker can work, but I’ve never used them

[sonic heart]

jesus christ Ʈ is so annoying

it just does not become uppercase

[graceful marsh]

Heh

IPA comes to the unrescue

[sonic heart]

bruv

alright what the fuck

[olive timber]

It has shoes on

[echo wasp]

it's correct.

[sonic heart]

😔

[graceful marsh]

Dripmaster

[golden ferry]

it has feet

[echo wasp]

lmao

[echo wasp]

10.1.130

[chilly fulcrum]

unicode decimals 💀

[night dragon]

Unicode 3.14159

[chilly fulcrum]

ok im just trying to make the Prepend Mr.

Mr. Mr. The Mr.

is what i get instead

[stable verge]

hmm

works?

if it does lol

[stable verge]

yay

[chilly fulcrum]

The Prepend Mr.

when i want chromatic to not work

it works

cringe

wanting to try continue from here

ill give ctrl+f a whirl

ah dang 4 hits but no recipe

akkadian unicode batak isnt an fd

so i guess im on the right track

[golden ferry]

why do 99% of all characters past U+2F000 just not render

[chilly fulcrum]

font

install a font for them and they will render

[golden ferry]

how do i do that

where can i get it

[chilly fulcrum]

idk

but i know thats what you have to do

the mr strat is hard because you dont see codepoint

💀

ladies and gentlemen we got him

[echo wasp]

for me stuff after 2ffff just don't render lol

[stable verge]

hm

[golden ferry]

yeah, but for me only a few things between 2f000 and 2ffff render

[echo wasp]

yep same

I just wish that 30edd rendered

or 30ede

[golden ferry]

whoa
i looked it up and it looks crazy

[echo wasp]

yeah lol

3106c also

[echo wasp]

interesting prepends

[chilly fulcrum]

bruh what

why is that 3rd one a thing

[echo wasp]

dont ask mee

[chilly fulcrum]

what was recipe for it - incorrect caps lol

[echo wasp]

U+60c5

[chilly fulcrum]

Lmao

[trim pond]

yeah btw for the Cuneiform Mr. . also works

[chilly fulcrum]

How did you get the prepend Mr

[trim pond]

U+2F60

[trim pond]

you mean Prepend Mr. Prepend Mr or The Prepend Mr. ?

U+2F7E

[chilly fulcrum]

both

[untold crystal]

again, was not searching for this

[trim pond]

recipes for them
"prepend" + Mr. = Prepend Mr.
"the " + Prepend = "the Prepend"
"the Prepend" + The Mr. = The Prepend Mr.

[echo wasp]

That t is actually so annoying

[chilly fulcrum]

ah ok

[echo wasp]

Why do I have Prepend Wyr. and Remove The Wyr. 💀

And Prepend Jr.

And Prepend Yr.

(Yr is completely useless though)

[trim pond]

U+2FB0 - this is one of the most scuffed lineages

[echo wasp]

what

[trim pond]

had to use 5 characters to make the next one

[chilly fulcrum]

there looks like there’s a lot of strategy involved there

like Mr. Xxy + mr. Yyz

[trim pond]

well Mr. Xxy + Mr. Yyz just kind of happened. honestly, I didn't think it would work

but the lineage is mostly to make ⾭⾮ which I wasn't able to make any other easier way

now only 2 Kangxi + 24 consecutive Kangxi is left = 26

[chilly fulcrum]

that seems like a lot to keep track of on one board but you’ve always been very good at that like before you had mbs your board could be very dense but very clean

[echo wasp]

i like how there are so many comments

[chilly fulcrum]

For where

[echo wasp]

1d780 onwards

[chilly fulcrum]

lol

[abstract marsh]

oh well..

i hope its chain one, if not, thats one hell of a job

[echo wasp]

a few

[untold crystal]

arrows for everyone

[echo wasp]

i just closed my ic TWICE in 10 mins'

omg

U+541e, 541f

[trim pond]

U+2FBE

took me way longer than it should've to figure this out

[abstract marsh]

nice

[echo wasp]

U+5458

[untold crystal]

And the first arrow from the block

[echo wasp]

U+5468

[untold crystal]

do you have the recipe for future unicode?

[chilly fulcrum]

wow I’ve never seen a chain be so well behaved

[echo wasp]

i have this

[untold crystal]

sadly the block is not finished, there are still a lot of arrows still missing

[chilly fulcrum]

woah what sort of sequence is this? 2fbc 2fbb and then next letter makes it have 2fbe

[trim pond]

the sequence is 2FBC 2FBB 2FBD. But yeah. Unfortunately U+2FBE is also "dead"

I hoped I would get U+2FBF easily at least :((

[chilly fulcrum]

now how do you use “..u+”? it just doesn’t work because the + gets replaced almost every time

[trim pond]

sometimes "u+" + "..u-xxxx" will make "u+xxxx"

or "..u-xxxx" + Prepend Plus / Prepend Plus Sign

[untold crystal]

exactly. that's how I made it this time

[chilly fulcrum]

ah ok

fair enough

I find Mr u+ is sufficient but once upon a time u+ used to work

[trim pond]

btw this is how painful it is

[chilly fulcrum]

I’m trying to work out the pattern of chars you are finding like are you going in order or what

oh damn is that your board rn

[trim pond]

those are FDs

[chilly fulcrum]

Ah ok

[echo wasp]

this is how empty it is rn lol

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah what is it you are going for are you using some random number generator to pick codepoints to try

[echo wasp]

kinda

[chilly fulcrum]

Like ok seeing cjk and stuff all over

with like the translating Strat

I should try it what’s the play there

just look up the char and find words it’s in? If there’s like a database then I guess that’s easy

[echo wasp]

yeah either that i just know what they mean

[chilly fulcrum]

I don’t know many but I took Chinese for a few years

most common ones I recognise but no longer have any idea what they mean

[echo wasp]

ah yes

[chilly fulcrum]

It did as you asked

[echo wasp]

yeah true

wasnt expecting that to work

[chilly fulcrum]

Wish it was easier to search in game to see if you have it (idk man I wish I had a full Unicode keyboard) at least

[echo wasp]

U+54ac

[chilly fulcrum]

was that like a targeted one - idk did your rng tell you go to from 5458 up to 54ac

[echo wasp]

oh that one was targeted

[chilly fulcrum]

perhaps you are going for common ones or just going till you find one you know what it means

[echo wasp]

yeah for cjk i do that sometimes

[untold crystal]

a few more arrows. The only gap is 1f840

[trim pond]

like why are there so many arrows in unicode xd

[final sable]

mathematicians are responsible for quite a few lol

[echo wasp]

the difference between two arrows is like "one is thicker by 0.1mm"

or one is fatter

[chilly fulcrum]

So well behaved

Where was the initial entry to all of these arrows

[abstract marsh]

in here
#1206592567622373446 message

[echo wasp]

a lot of hw for yall lol

[untold crystal]

and another entry 1F860 (using the recipe from the comment)

[trim pond]

U+2F040 😂

why is this range not in the sheet 😦

[echo wasp]

cjk?

[trim pond]

supplementary ideographic plane

[echo wasp]

this just reminded me that we're one away from U+30000

[trim pond]

yeah

I tried a bunch of Mr. stuff but couldn't really increment it

[trim pond]

I think we should make a new sheet for all characters that are not in the 3 main sheets (up to U+3FFFF as that is above the highest character in the spreadsheet, except for variationselectors). Because it gets quite annoying making entries for them in the Missing Characters sheet. Also sometimes they are required for other elements in other sheets.

[untold crystal]

This was unexpected

[echo wasp]

makes so much sense !

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah well the thing is there’s such an absurd number of characters that aren’t assigned

about 1 million

[trim pond]

ok maybe up to u+3ffff only,

[chilly fulcrum]

what’s the problem - like do you want to record unassigned too?

[echo wasp]

yes :>

[trim pond]

well sometimes a normal character requires previous unassigned characters

[echo wasp]

some recipes also do use unassigned

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah

[trim pond]

i don't want to necessarily record all of them, just if a recipe needs them, you can search for them much easier then

[chilly fulcrum]

that’s fair - I wouldn’t be against having gaps like where they leave a gap of a few chars bring in the sheet

[trim pond]

yeah but maybe to a separate one altogether

[chilly fulcrum]

so far I’ve kinda avoided putting those in and gone for other recipes but when I do put it in I do leave instructions

[echo wasp]

I wonder if we'll ever find Variation Selector-17 and beyond

[chilly fulcrum]

We do have elements with characters up that high

Scottish flag is the big one

[echo wasp]

wait what

[trim pond]

variation selector-16 not yet found btw. I guess I will try now that I have Mr. strategy

[chilly fulcrum]

it’s actually 7 characters

and 5 of them are in U+Exxxx

[echo wasp]

where can i find that element lol

[chilly fulcrum]

I’m sure it’s somewhere if there’s a flag bounty or something

but see if you can make Scottish flag

[echo wasp]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

wiat that's 30 tokens

[chilly fulcrum]

ah it might be that’s true

[echo wasp]

or 29

[chilly fulcrum]

although I would have thought such an emoji would get some kind of decreased token

in that case it might be an fffd - but that’s okay just look up emojis with tag characters

other flags probably

the Scottish flag has 6 of them

g b s c t cancel

[untold crystal]

The gap 1F840. I can't get 1F880 and after it 😦

[echo wasp]

I just dk whether other emojis will have less enough to not exceed token limit

[echo wasp]

ok wait so do we have any elements crafted that have characters that high

[trim pond]

do you know how to delete U+ or Mr. U+ ?

[trim pond]

Variation Selector Unicode

[golden ferry]

U+1FACB, U+1FACC, U+1FACD, U+1FACE, U+1FACF

why is the emoji for 1FACC the 🤨 emoji

[sonic heart]

lmao

[golden ferry]

U+1F260, U+1F261, U+1F263

[golden ferry]

U+2B35

U+2B18

U+2B10

U+2B23

U+2B27, U+2B28, U+2B29

how often does the sheet get updated

[slate whale]

uhhh

not a good question

[golden ferry]

a bit of work for the editors

[slate whale]

ah

yes..

[golden ferry]

2F80A to 2F83C

none missing

[slate whale]

man the comments are lagging the sheet for me again

[golden ferry]

there wouldn't be any comments if the sheet was updated

[slate whale]

request edit access

[golden ferry]

U+2B37, U+2B38

U+2B3B, U+2B3C, U+2B3E

uh

[slate whale]

now time to do this abomination

[golden ferry]

i only stopped because i had to reload. there's more coming

[slate whale]

please request editor

[golden ferry]

i did

[slate whale]

https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1217017057200050257

oh no

[golden ferry]

what

[untold crystal]

why is it so hard to find an entry point into YI SYLLABLE block? I tried the first 30 things

[slate whale]

i thought radu is going to send 100 more characters

[golden ferry]

lol

[slate whale]

what codepoint

[untold crystal]

I was sure... that was the reason for the oh no

a000-A48C

[slate whale]

i see

we got nothing there lol

[untold crystal]

Why is this dead?

OSAGE CAPITAL LETTER ZHA

capital letter, not small

[slate whale]

no idea

it almost combined with one of my elements

[trim pond]

I am a bit sad that this doesn't really do anything. I hoped that it would give me random unicode characters

ooh, new Unicode element

[slate whale]

does it work

[golden ferry]

this is definitely gonna be easy to follow

maybe add a link to the message on U+2F80A

here's U+2F83D - U+2F83F

[trim pond]

U+12371, you can probably combine with something else that contains a 2 to get the double elements, instead of using "ab2" explicitly

[trim pond]

Randomized Unicode is similar to your other tools, but didn't try it much yet, but seems like it sometimes gives a different result, so it's nice to have it i think

wtf is this recipe ????

[slate whale]

🍷

[trim pond]

U+12378

I found the pee pee guys

[golden ferry]

U+2B3F

[robust sparrow]

full lineage from base starting elemnts pwease /j

[trim pond]

it's in the spreadsheet

[trim pond]

start with 𒍣

[final sable]

letsfuckingooo

[trim pond]

or actually with 𒍪

that is closer

[trim pond]

anyways all of my Cuneiform characters have been added to the spreadsheet

could someone calculate the % of Cuneiform that we have?

[golden ferry]

#1206592567622373446 message
bump

[chilly fulcrum]

You still got a personal sheet of these? I think you’ll find in terms of things you’ve sent we have a lot more to worry about than just that lul

[golden ferry]

it's just kinda

[golden ferry]

yeah, i do

[trim pond]

U+3B40

[chilly fulcrum]

gonna use the input tool on this one hehehe

[untold crystal]

do what you have to do

[chilly fulcrum]

its a super efficient way to put them in

basically i just copy your chain

then copy and paste console into the tool

and it does the rest

[untold crystal]

for U+1F840. Not sure which is better. #1206592567622373446 message or this?

[chilly fulcrum]

id like to try that mr 3 letters in a row + next letter strat tbh once

[untold crystal]

I'm disappointed that I couldn't find all the arrows

[golden ferry]

crab

U+2B90-U+2B9F

this recipe is very incorrect

[sonic heart]

lmao

[golden ferry]

are you an lmao bot

[sonic heart]

no lmao

[golden ferry]

U+297B - U+297F

[trim pond]

thanks. fixed. I accidentally didn't Ctrl + C when inputting the recipe and put Next Letter twice

also sometimes I input a recipe and forget to tick the checkmark : )

[olive timber]

Is this u+2b56

[golden ferry]

2bd6, i discovered 2b56

[olive timber]

Alr

[chilly fulcrum]

is it fixed yet or not

Ah yeah

Just saw

[echo wasp]

the 周phabet

anyways I got a lot to bump soon :)

[echo wasp]

"next letter" + "next letter"

[elder orchid]

Just letting you know about some new tools I found:

• The Reverse Order
• Gimme The Reverse Order
• Give Me The Reverse Order
  #1233405406265610260 message

[chilly fulcrum]

bruh what - what did you do to make that

Current Unicode + Next Alphabet = Future Unicode

[echo wasp]

U+2F900 to U+2F93F - None missing

idk why the end wasnt fd

[chilly fulcrum]

ick

[echo wasp]

anyways, more homework for the editors

[golden ferry]

i have fd on 2f934-2f93f

[echo wasp]

ah i see

[golden ferry]

can't get 2f940 tho

[echo wasp]

yea same

[chilly fulcrum]

although if you have prepend Mr (no dot) idl ike it

[echo wasp]

U+2070e

[golden ferry]

U+2F95C - U+2F97F (except U+2F966)

lineage gonna be a bit difficult

[chilly fulcrum]

lmao i like how 2f970 isnt fd cause i have it

[echo wasp]

lol

[chilly fulcrum]

brhu what U+10c80 + whatever that chinese is

wish it was easier to search or type lol

[echo wasp]

Opposite + 简体中文 = 繁體中文

[abstract marsh]

true, either cjk or hangul it gonna be hassle to test the recipe

[echo wasp]

bruh

[sage wren]

biang biang unification are you fucking serious

[echo wasp]

nvm its unassigned

no need to give lineage!

[echo wasp]

yes

[sage wren]

I wonder if a quettaminx and ronnaminx exists somewhere out there ..,,

[sage wren]

no no not an object. The person.

[echo wasp]

is this poseidon

[chilly fulcrum]

ive put in all radus arrows except for 1f840

actually theres a lot of those characters in the 02xx and 03xxx range radu and others got i havent done cause the lineages were long but honestly id do them now - do you guys have a list or will i have to scroll up for a while

[echo wasp]

i have a few

most are commented

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah i know you have some

[echo wasp]

#1206592567622373446 message
bump.

[chilly fulcrum]

but the older ones are more pressing at the minute

[echo wasp]

waiy

[chilly fulcrum]

there was 02c8, 0361 i didnt do from radu

[echo wasp]

#1206592567622373446 message
bump.

1f880 hasnt been found yet right

[golden ferry]

i don't have it

[echo wasp]

ok yeah radu couldnt get it

[chilly fulcrum]

indeed

[golden ferry]

2974, 2975, 2976

[chilly fulcrum]

did you make an edit access request?

[golden ferry]

yesterday

i think

[echo wasp]

i think only owner can give the access when u request

U+1F6A0

U+1f5e2

U+1f6a1

also these two comments are just sitting here lol

uhh

[sage wren]

voiceless-retroflex-Explosive

ilove bombs theyre so Grate

[echo wasp]

U+b0b4 (Convert To Hangul recipe)

[chilly fulcrum]

random ahh emojis

what is this random ahh generator

[sage wren]

what

[chilly fulcrum]

nice arrow inversion

[echo wasp]

out of everything, it has to be this.

highest four digit. who had fd?

im assuming its zettaminx

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean as it stands the spike in interest has not been met with a spike in editors so its expected we fall behind lol

[echo wasp]

yeah, if only editors could give others access :/

[golden ferry]

U+2D51

[chilly fulcrum]

heres my plan for 1f880

next one is even thicker

i think it should be able to complete that

[golden ferry]

what's so important about 1f880?

[chilly fulcrum]

radu couldnt get it

nor anything beyond

[sage wren]

tifinagh ⵑⵑ

so lovlyissimo

[chilly fulcrum]

idk im not radu tho so im not sure how to get that sequence Mr.ed

[echo wasp]

this?

[chilly fulcrum]

noooooooo cant believe this

[echo wasp]

what ?

[chilly fulcrum]

well i obviously didnt mean i want the element Mr.ed i was referring to putting the sequence i was after within a Mr.

and dont you go finding a recipe for a Mr. now

[echo wasp]

well, here are two very simple Mr. recipes

[chilly fulcrum]

banned

[sage wren]

Where's the R recipe? very ableist. i reported you for that.

expect discord to rip you limb from limb for this

[golden ferry]

this is a way better recipe

you definitely don't need mr. to make it

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah....

[sage wren]

quick, find a way to incorporate it into a unicode recipe

[echo wasp]

i like how none of my recipes are that crazy

[golden ferry]

well i tried

[sage wren]

fixed your recipes

[thin warren]

this one is probably my favorite

[sage wren]

oh my fucking god

[thin warren]

| || || |_

[chilly fulcrum]

i dont think it worked

but ill check to make sure

yeah it didnt make the next one

[thin warren]

loss lineage if you want it lol

you can probably find a better way to give loss a mom on if you really want it

[chilly fulcrum]

not sure i get it but anyway

[golden ferry]

#configurations .'s Mom

[chilly fulcrum]

also ah yes append space followed by ||

[golden ferry]

ok

[thin warren]

The rest is left as an excercise to the viewer

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah i havent worked out that strat yet

maybe in practice thread you can show me one time

[thin warren]

you just put hashtag & 's on it and then try every element you have with mom in it

you can do it in curlies or out of quotes

couldnt get this one to work in curlies though so i had to take it out first

[sage wren]

i think itd be awesome if infinibrowser only showed the last step for recipes so you either individually open each element or figure it out yourself

[thin warren]

Me when the final step is Mr. )uq#rcuv)? + Remove The Mr. = )uq#rcuv)?

[trim pond]

don't have that

[chilly fulcrum]

nah but obv i dont get the mom and dad thing well enough because ive yet to make it work

like theres too many options but probably only 1 works

[trim pond]

whoah, the word Ronnaminx sounds so good

[echo wasp]

no way string.append

[echo wasp]

that is not fixing, its making it worse

[chilly fulcrum]

not fd, fd, not fd. how? how was it incremented?

[echo wasp]

yeah I get that a lot

[trim pond]

ok, Prepend Mr recipe

[slate whale]

Maybe just mr u+

[chilly fulcrum]

like you cant increment codepoints anymore

[slate whale]

Wait nvm

[slate whale]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

unless radu found a way in which case i would like to know!!

[echo wasp]

yeah same!!

[slate whale]

Next ascii still works too you know

[echo wasp]

I don't wanna string build for every codepoint

[chilly fulcrum]

i dont have any methods to increment if you only have one codepoint

like they all dont work

if you have 2 in a row then you may be able to get the next

[echo wasp]

oh yeah and sometimes if you combine U+xxxe + U+xxxf it will give U+xxxg

or just not go up

[chilly fulcrum]

lol

[slate whale]

this?

and it doesnt go to U+XXXG

[echo wasp]

no sometimes it does

when u do xxxe + xxxf

rarely tho

[slate whale]

when combining the codepoints maybe

but with Next Ascii it didnt happen to me yet

[echo wasp]

yeah that was what I was talking about

[slate whale]

even tho Next Ascii works only with mr U+

[golden ferry]

who owns the google sheet

[slate whale]

instantflare iirc

[echo wasp]

yea

I dont see him much anymore

[golden ferry]

this is just FEPW all over again

[echo wasp]

find every possible word :)

idk if other editors can add the email to give edit access for this sheet

[slate whale]

nop

[echo wasp]

lol

then it's time to wait for Ray to accept the requests (might not ever happen)

[slate whale]

are you requesting access too?

[echo wasp]

yep

[golden ferry]

why does 趼 + Next Letter = Vampire

[echo wasp]

maybe the next word is vampire in chinese

[golden ferry]

idk how to speak chinese

[echo wasp]

wait I thought I alr got 2f9db to 2f9e0

[golden ferry]

oh, that was you

[echo wasp]

yep

I'm missing 2f9e1 and 2f9e2 tho

[echo wasp]

nvm lol

[golden ferry]

literally just got them

[slate whale]

who is JohnyQ btw

[echo wasp]

idk

[golden ferry]

pretty easy recipe

[echo wasp]

ok yeah I didnt try hard enough

[sage wren]

greek letters guy

[slate whale]

that guy has a bunch of comments too

[trim pond]

U+A9D0 recipe - the letters + "ab2" give the double thing without Mr. I accidentally put the one with mr. here and I don't want to remake the recipe

[sage wren]

o

[slate whale]

who

[chilly fulcrum]

oh so that works with Mr. U+? got it

[slate whale]

yep

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm i made supplemental with Supplement + curly "al" i guess thats ok

anyone got better?

[echo wasp]

should be good enough

[chilly fulcrum]

qe deniers be like:

[sage wren]

how is that qe

[chilly fulcrum]

cause arrows is what we been working on

nah actually its likely because supplement is used in unicode blocks

more often than supplemental

[sage wren]

I doubt it cares .. the only other supplemental block i know of is supplemental mathematical operators, theres like 3 for arrows alone

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah ik

while supplement is used for loads of blocks i think supplemental is relatively rare

ah thanks for the range

anyone got prepend/append -

i cant add - to "the supplemental arrows" no matter what i try ; ;

oh wait

i am silly

[thin warren]

found this but not the prepend one

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah i figured that might work

howd you get the - in there

i used U+++002d

[thin warren]

prepend u+002d

[chilly fulcrum]

ok

well im up to supplemental arrows-t

cant progress

[trim pond]

noticed that for some reason the ai doesn't want to increment from U+2x3F and U+2x7F, but like from U+2x2F to U+2x30 or U+2x1F to U+2x20 it is fine

[chilly fulcrum]

if you inspect the tokens that may give insight

lets see

yep

thats exactly as i suspected

[trim pond]

or even with U+3x2F or so

[trim pond]

wdym?

[chilly fulcrum]

okay so

first two are 1f81f and 1f820

down the bottom is the utf-8 bytes of those chars

which in this case is equal to the llama tokens

so the first one is f0 9f a0 9f

next is f0 9f a0 a0

simple increment by 1

f09fa09f + 1 = f09fa0a0

next i have put 1f83f and 1f840

f0 9f a0 bf is the first

f0 9f a1 80 is the second

much bigger change

it must change not only 1 but now 2 tokens

it will do this again at 7f

f0 9f a1 bf -> f0 9f a2 80

[trim pond]

ooh makes sense now, thx

[chilly fulcrum]

so the same trouble will happen at bf -> c0 also

[trim pond]

wait.. I was thinking that there is a gap, but actually it is duplicated in the sheet.

@spring minnow fix this

[slate whale]

2FFb has two recipes

there are 3 actually lol

[trim pond]

well, they are practically the same

I think this is from when Kangxi was joined with the CJK sheet

[chilly fulcrum]

ah

lol

[echo wasp]

why are these fd..m

[sage wren]

wow it fucking sucks at addition

[slate whale]

.

where 1f25f

[slate whale]

that doesnt look liek 1f6a1 to me

[echo wasp]

whoops

mb

[slate whale]

is it supposed to be 1f6a1?

[echo wasp]

nonono

i read 8 as a

[slate whale]

ohok

[echo wasp]

ah yes

[slate whale]

empty heart

[sage wren]

was </3 ever found?

like a slashed heart

[echo wasp]

damn the comments have decreased

[slate whale]

i did over 100

[echo wasp]

lol

[slate whale]

last hour

[echo wasp]

a few arrows for ya'll

U+2f800 to U+2f809

2ac0, 2ac2, and 2ac3

who put in this amazing recipe lol

i didnt know string.appends were used for unicode now (not that i dont like it)

[sage wren]

if anyone finds an appendless recipe for that do tell

[echo wasp]

i did

[sage wren]

do tell then

i just said that asd ..

[sage wren]

See there we go

ok whoever can edit the sheet replace that append recipe ！！

[echo wasp]

bruh

[echo wasp]

looks quite replaced

[abstract marsh]

ah yes the double recipe entry

[echo wasp]

yeah ik

was just doing that to (kinda) piss him

[sage wren]

we'll see about that when i have your head on a stake

[slate whale]

you wrote this while lsitening to Pancake is Love

[echo wasp]

not gonna happen

[slate whale]

if only ray answered my reply

i wouldnt have to complete these arrows

[echo wasp]

what reply

[slate whale]

https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1217017057200050257

[echo wasp]

new editors would be nice

[trim pond]

found new sus characters ?

[sage wren]

yes what of it

Im an avid pannenkoek lover, that's unrelated to anything though .

[candid trellis]

Pannenkoeken ftw

[untold crystal]

I wanted to fill in some blanks but I only managed these 2

[chilly fulcrum]

i see

want to try some blanks in 22xx?

guessing you used the alternate recipe as the etry lol

idk if unicode egyptian heiroglyphics is documented

[untold crystal]

alternate is way easier

(for me)

And the entry for this. Is the first element not banned?

[echo wasp]

yall did a lot of bruteforcing on that right

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah isis is banned

banning stuff while i get it i think is silly because you open a can of worms you really didnt need to - like for example you could ask neal "yo why is jew banned by hitler isnt? are u nazi??" - but thats for a nother time

[echo wasp]

yeah neal rly shouldn't have banned words, especially since its so easy to bypass

[chilly fulcrum]

its so unusual to me that like its considered normal when censoring things to allow you to just substitute a character for a near identical look alike

but it feels normal to me and thats the weird part

ok well we should make an alt recipe for that one

[chilly fulcrum]

rip

what are you trying to make

also radu notice how the chain stops at 3f

for the 130xx

its for the reason i explained

[untold crystal]

I know, I saw

[chilly fulcrum]

utf-8 makes it so that the ai has to make a really large shift in its output relatively speaking when crossing over from 3f-40

honestly i dont know what happens if you just increment the last byte anyway

where youd end up

[untold crystal]

#1206592567622373446 message Do you have any idea why this is dead?

[abstract marsh]

same thing happened on specific range i have encountered for several times different unicode codeblock

it just switch the rule
capital letter as lowercase
small letter as uppercase

[chilly fulcrum]

well one way to check would be to call uppercase on it with a codeing language

if its something different than what you put in then that would be why

[abstract marsh]

idk if i can check that on phone... gl

[final sable]

who says combining two number elements should be their sum anyway? 🗿
why not their product? 🗿 if theyre consecutive in a sequence why not the next number in the sequence 🗿

[echo wasp]

lol

I think it is self-explanatory.

[sage wren]

game processes merging as A + B = C, so that merge would literally say 2 + 3 = 4. nobody writes numbers upwards like that, you'd write it as 2, 3, 4 .. therefore it just sucks at addition

[final sable]

fuk ur right

[chilly fulcrum]

i think its just using whatever number system would have that to get to the next number you need to add the previous two

not logarithmic i dont think

... yes the next symbol is indeed a heiroglyph

[final sable]

base system? nah that wouldn’t explain “2+3 = 4” or “(n-1)+n = n+1”

[echo wasp]

ok yeah the 22xx that arent done are a nightmare

[chilly fulcrum]

no not a base system

[final sable]

this happens all the time tbh

[chilly fulcrum]

like a different number system

[final sable]

I mean

occham’s razor

[echo wasp]

within 5 mins i have 32 recipes for ∴

[final sable]

and I don’t know of any such number system

it’s just because they’re consecutive—IC does it with letters too (b+c = d etc.)

[chilly fulcrum]

obviously im not being serious

[final sable]

oof mb you can’t read tone

[final sable]

you got ∴ upside down?

[echo wasp]

no why

[final sable]

just seems like it’d be easy to get from ∴ :)

[untold crystal]

Are you trying to get 2214? That also happened to me 10 minutes ago

[echo wasp]

yeah

[chilly fulcrum]

anything in 22xx gives the therfore symbol

especially low 22xx

its why i have nearly 1k recipes for it

[echo wasp]

U+250C

[chilly fulcrum]

interesting

there might be lineage somewhere for "boxdrawing"

[echo wasp]

#1206592567622373446 message
here

[chilly fulcrum]

damn you found that fast nice

odds are you can increment that id think

[echo wasp]

nope, all goes to U+256D

[chilly fulcrum]

rip

on the other hand i found U+a001 which is friendly

[echo wasp]

nice

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah and as predicted it goes from a001 - a03f

and cant go further

ok all 47 of those are in

very nice

perfect input tool use

[echo wasp]

uhh

[chilly fulcrum]

i got fd on Aplhabet

[echo wasp]

i like how there is just this one gap at a000

[chilly fulcrum]

seems common for some reason

like radu got 1f801

and 1f800 was painful to get

i found a much nicer one by chance but still its not conventiona

one for the lab perhaps

could make a doc for this a separate one for unicode specifically

what did you even do to get that lol? its not next alphabet

[echo wasp]

its the opposite

[chilly fulcrum]

i see

but yeah like if you can imagine it getting stuck at 3f is like someone saying: 108, 109, what comes next? (and by the way, 110 is banned)

and the answer being 310

the ai will struggle with that

damn guys we have gone up like 4% in a couple days

we are on fire

[echo wasp]

U+9690

U+63d0, U+9192

[chilly fulcrum]

unfortunately the percentage I am talking about does not include cjk

[echo wasp]

yeah ik :))

[echo wasp]

i mean barely any cjk was done

[chilly fulcrum]

most of Unicode is cjk and I can’t read it so that’s why I think for the moment more focus is on the main sheet

and the percentage number is massive

It’s super motivating

To see we are almost halfway

[echo wasp]

yeah

[chilly fulcrum]

with a backlog of hundreds and potentially into the thousands of things yet to be put in

[graceful marsh]

Are you trying to fight the Great Lying Down Man

[chilly fulcrum]

What

[graceful marsh]

40 minutes ago, the mummy hieroglyph

Also by the way you can replace Isis with Sobek

[chilly fulcrum]

okay well I can’t rn so I’ll have to do it tomorrow if I remember

but yeah Laurasia did you see the explanation of why the ai struggles to increment from 3f to 40? it’s cool it’s token related

[echo wasp]

U+27b0

[graceful marsh]

Ah yes, good eye

[echo wasp]

U+2b71 to U+2b74

[robust sparrow]

why the 🌿 emoji for U+27B4 makes no sense

[echo wasp]

idk

so many comments left lol

[untold crystal]

What is this?

[trim pond]

"string.fromcharcode(109,111,114,1

[echo wasp]

nice explanation!

[graceful marsh]

"mor<cutoff>"

Also going for 13040 I see

[trim pond]

Wtf this is the most random unicode recipe. Like how did reverse make a completely different unicode character? (maybe it is one token away? idk) U+F4A9

[echo wasp]

what.

what tf is that monstroity of an element

[trim pond]

idk, but I am trying to make ﷽𒐫𒈙⸻꧅ဪ௵௸‱ element

[echo wasp]

ooh

[echo wasp]

so, uh

[trim pond]

so it will be dead?

[echo wasp]

no, too many tokens, so not possible

[sonic heart]

put this in parenthesis...

[echo wasp]

just a slight variant

[sonic heart]

i have never seen someone use it to turn into a unicode thing lmao

[echo wasp]

same

[trim pond]

how many tokens is the limit?

[echo wasp]

20

if include the <s> then 21

[trim pond]

but how come that 200+ character long elements exist? or is it that those are 20 repeating words all worth 1 token?

[echo wasp]

yeah

[trim pond]

😦

[sonic heart]

wait how do you get Put This In Parenthesis

[echo wasp]

basically

same method

but e is i

[untold crystal]

It also works with this

[sonic heart]

alright

what is this lmao

[slate whale]

check in console

[echo wasp]

see there u go

[final sable]

I’d like a lineage, that could be really cool for math stuff

[echo wasp]

that is 10k in roman numerals

[echo wasp]

...

that's so random lol

[sonic heart]

ik

why can i not get these 3 😔

[echo wasp]

ok uh

[untold crystal]

for the small letters, do you have them maybe somewhere in the middle of a word?

I may have a way to get get them if you do

[sonic heart]

they dont show up in any (notable) language

[echo wasp]

ok then gl tryna use translation :)

[sonic heart]

infinite craft is not gonna know these languages lmao

[graceful marsh]

Hausa is pretty well-attested