Unicode

[slate whale]

me when uhh

[abstract marsh]

u guys are passing dementia to each other.... still good there?

[neat haven]

u+0279 (ɹ)

guh

[echo wasp]

idk why but I don't have many recipes for poseidon

[graceful marsh]

It isn't strictly the rate of appearances that form the PP but the unexpectedness of the appearances

I don't have many either

[stable verge]

Lꜷrasꙗ-Gondwaநland

bruh

[graceful marsh]

Oh it'll get worse

Don't worry

[stable verge]

hmm

ill also do it :3

[night dragon]

some stuff ig

[echo wasp]

i love soft hyphen

(with soft hyphen)

[chilly fulcrum]

oh? better than i could do

theres a space in front, how does that work

[echo wasp]

some stuff

[golden ferry]

oh cool, more soft hyphen

if you delete the à does it delete the soft hyphen

[echo wasp]

does nothing, sadly

ok yeah i give up

wait i just realised how stupid this lineage is

[echo wasp]

also its remove last character

what is that bro

eh idt it matters tbh lol

[chilly fulcrum]

? how did you control the replace like that

[chilly fulcrum]

lol what

[echo wasp]

its emoji lol

[chilly fulcrum]

ah i had that convert to unicode already 💀

[echo wasp]

lol

same

[graceful marsh]

Test
🖧

Dammit

[chilly fulcrum]

three networked computers

[graceful marsh]

Dreams of GondwanaLANd like dust in the wind

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm

[echo wasp]

alr imma do some cjk lol

[chilly fulcrum]

yay more behind ; ; - and still half of natas list to go lmao

we could use more editors

[night dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/deriva-continental-gif-22169596

[echo wasp]

i mean like there are a few editors, but most dont do unicode anymore lol

also i cant get the translations to give me unicode characters for even once

[night dragon]

can i be editor :3
(providing my google sheets doesnt crash due to the amount of characters)

[neat haven]

fsr mbs unicode doesn't work for 00ad

[chilly fulcrum]

?

also dont ask me im not owner

but yeah there is a lot of editors but only a few active

[echo wasp]

did the owner not allow other editors to give access

[neat haven]

ik this is supposed to be in #dev but

[chilly fulcrum]

ah but heres the thing

soft hyphen only renders if it is at a line break

there is no line break there

therefore it remains an invisible 0 width character

[echo wasp]

also mbs doesnt show invisible chars i think

[neat haven]

ohh

[chilly fulcrum]

thats why its always invisible in game

[chilly fulcrum]

linebreaks are banned

therefore you can never get it to render

[slate whale]

where did u stop

[chilly fulcrum]

near the end of 23xx

[neat haven]

it's all soft hyphen the phrase

[chilly fulcrum]

if you want to play with an element with 00ad in it

do Un + Directly + U+00ed

[echo wasp]

almost worked :/

[neat haven]

what

[echo wasp]

its circumflex

[chilly fulcrum]

oh sorry my bad

forgor

[echo wasp]

ig it is kinda correct

[chilly fulcrum]

Remove The Dotted Circle

[neat haven]

wdym circumflex

[echo wasp]

add the word circumflex

[neat haven]

ohh ok

great i accidentally closed ic

[golden ferry]

rip

[neat haven]

time to wait 1 day /j

[chilly fulcrum]

its only like 2 sec boot up for me now

[golden ferry]

it’s like 3 minutes for me

[echo wasp]

yeah 3 mins

[slate whale]

10 secs for me

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean unless you have all elements render on it doesnt take long anymore

idk i installed some new mbs versions and its now like super fast

[slate whale]

1.5 ?

[echo wasp]

after wasting like 20 mins to get modifier j, i instead got this

U+027a

uh have fun making the lineage for that

[chilly fulcrum]

more like you have fun hehehe - being editor is painful as it is rewarding

[graceful marsh]

I love making new tools!1!

(don't worry this one's useless)

[chilly fulcrum]

real

also bruh

U+D?

really?

[slate whale]

we already had this

but yeah

[graceful marsh]

He asked

[echo wasp]

It uses string.appends 😭

[chilly fulcrum]

lmao

[slate whale]

huh?

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean advanced tools can be nice but also its really satisfying to play without

ah this is glowy - i think this might be due to some rtl

it makes it look really bad and it glitches it out

[slate whale]

i wont touch it then

[chilly fulcrum]

but the recipe is given still

just i think with a format where U+ means the actual character

[neat haven]

god damn it i spelled voiced velar plosive only for it to be found

[chilly fulcrum]

lol

[echo wasp]

lol

for whay

[echo wasp]

Simple recipe: "palatal-" + Approximant

[chilly fulcrum]

simpler 0142 cause revived stuff

[neat haven]

u+0261

[slate whale]

ok i completed from the sheet until 2c00

[chilly fulcrum]

okay pretty good

[neat haven]

unnecessarily long u+0261 (ɡ) (there was no lineage for "ʔ")

[echo wasp]

wtf is that lol

wait it wasn't even fd?

[neat haven]

no

niko has it

[echo wasp]

ok so basically u just

[neat haven]

but there wasn't a recipe for "ʔ"

[chilly fulcrum]

there was no lineage for that char - okay? im confused as to the relevance

[neat haven]

so i made it myself

like where do you get this

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah whats the relevance to the lineage posted

[neat haven]

because "ʔ" wasn't anywhere on discord search

at least here there's something

[echo wasp]

ok but

how is that relevant to 0261

[chilly fulcrum]

lmao just got fd on The Hungarian Translation trying to get Hungarian Translation

[neat haven]

#1206592567622373446 message
#1206592567622373446 message
#1206592567622373446 message

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah all good i got it

[sonic heart]

Lol

[chilly fulcrum]

got a better route for Caron than this?

ok got one

0164 + Prepend Caron

0165

i will never include a lineage with any form of equals sign lookalike, ever.

[sonic heart]

lmao

[chilly fulcrum]

169, 1b0, 1eeb (and tieng viet because idk i was annoyed that i couldnt find it once)

16d

actually i never got hungarian translation i just subbed it in for The Hungarian Translation

...

lmao

[sonic heart]

lol

[chilly fulcrum]

finally pant caught up to all your ones

[sonic heart]

now its time to do all the other ones

[chilly fulcrum]

well thats not bad though

they arent going to be as.... involved as yours

like 50 comments? most of those i can manage ok

(killerbowsers one - perhaps not)

[echo wasp]

which one

[chilly fulcrum]

the one in box drawing

[echo wasp]

you can def find a good lineage for Approximant

cuz uh

[chilly fulcrum]

new tactics: make anyone who does this editor so they have to suffer

[echo wasp]

uh too bad u cant :/

[sonic heart]

"pproximant" + "a"?

[chilly fulcrum]

why pproximant...

[sonic heart]

idfk

[chilly fulcrum]

maybe it autocompleted to approximation

so he had to delete the a

[echo wasp]

as someone who is still kinda sane, i logically tried that first

gave "aproximant"

[chilly fulcrum]

lmao

[echo wasp]

ask why ai removed the a for no reason

[chilly fulcrum]

?

lol what i have to see

[sonic heart]

"aproximant" + "pproximant"?

[echo wasp]

ok wait why didnt i try that 😭

ok wait worked lol

[sonic heart]

💀

[echo wasp]

wait wtf

the earlier parts of the lineage are worse

[sonic heart]

ŷ (U+0177)

[sonic heart]

oh no

[echo wasp]

wait what

[sonic heart]

what

the

[robust sparrow]

new verison of Put This In Quotation Marks

[echo wasp]

the lineage never gonna come

[echo wasp]

yeah it is

(for me only)

[robust sparrow]

why , is it terrible

[echo wasp]

no

not on sheet (YES IK THIS LINEAGE SUCKS)

[echo wasp]

also i found this, but this lineage is probably not any better so yeah

(top part from a radu lineage)

[sonic heart]

...

[echo wasp]

ok we can shut up about that

[sonic heart]

never use strings for simple quoted stuff

[echo wasp]

i used it cuz again, first thing i tried

[sonic heart]

why tho

[echo wasp]

im not the type to go and optimise my stuff

[sonic heart]

how did you even get to "pproximant"

[echo wasp]

then add a t

U+677e and U+9B06

[chilly fulcrum]

Well thing is simple who quoted stuff can be hard

Like if yo try 10 things and they don’t work

it’s very hard to not to go string.append

[sonic heart]

If i try 10 things

At least 1 of those things work

Lmao

All the time

[echo wasp]

U+017c

[chilly fulcrum]

I mean lucky you but that’s not normal lol - like .pr wouldn’t be in the list of things I try because I would have progressed further and got stuck later in

[neat haven]

oh boy u+01eb boutta be hard

[echo wasp]

yeah gl lol

probably not as hard as 00ad but yeah

[chilly fulcrum]

I’m sure it’s doable without language things

[echo wasp]

yeah most probably

[olive timber]

What unicode

[echo wasp]

U+12219

[olive timber]

🈂️

Whatever this unicode is

[chilly fulcrum]

Use console or mbs

mbs is a script

like helper

[olive timber]

Im on mobile app.

[abstract marsh]

grinding unicode on mobile app is torture for me

if its just for random checking stuff then its fine

[olive timber]

Smh

..?

[graceful marsh]

...anyone have easy pair endpoint access to check those characters

[graceful marsh]

By eye isn't gonna work out for this one

[olive timber]

Maybe convert to cuneiform..?

Got it using the "hi Mr. Convert to" methid

Well

Its something

[graceful marsh]

Ah, Digir

[olive timber]

h u h

[graceful marsh]

Actually, now I think about it

Funny how it defaults

[neat haven]

with ogonek doesn't work for u+01eb

[graceful marsh]

U+12217, Cuneiform Sign Lugal

That was surprisingly easy

I should get back to Unicode

[graceful marsh]

@golden ferry , tree up in a bit, I'm busy chaining

Or not, nevermind, softlocked as per 'uze

U+12217, 12218, 12219 and 1221A, ready to eat

[robust sparrow]

i have no idea what youre talking about this is the best lineage ever

[graceful marsh]

"lu" + 𒀭 = 𒀭𒈬

Ah yes, clearly Lu = Mu Llama, good job

[signal ravine]

guys how do i get 🇮🇹

[graceful marsh]

Fuckin' Cuneiform Sign Mu, I guess. U+1222C

[graceful marsh]

#1226511876733669436 message

[signal ravine]

llol funny lineage

[graceful marsh]

Luigi

[final sable]

wait until you find out that llama thinks Omicron = Omikron xD

[abstract marsh]

i can run simple check but lazy to open my laptop..,,

[graceful marsh]

I mean, at least that's a valid spelling in like 10 languages

[final sable]

IC accidentally going non-English lol

[graceful marsh]

Actually direct Greek transliteration would also give it as such

ò mikrón, “small O”

[final sable]

the omicro(n) and omega thing is so cool

[graceful marsh]

Whoops black hole

Ah, of course. "mi" = "shar"

If this keeps up I'm going to do something

[slate whale]

why are you not using mbs

[graceful marsh]

I don't want to

[slate whale]

fair

[graceful marsh]

I might take the codepoint thing for QOL but TBH I just cannot be bothered

In any case, Cuneiform is being bizarrely well-behaved, disregarding its inability to read

Cuneiform Signs Shar2 and She, U+122B9 and 122BA

C-forms Un, Un Gunu and Ur, U+12326, 12327, and 12328

[slate whale]

i have never seen this

WAIT THATS A HAT

i i...

i need to go to sleep

[robust sparrow]

🙅‍♂️

❌

🧢

[abstract marsh]

gn

[slate whale]

i would go to sleep but its only 7 pm

and i need to find them emojis

[graceful marsh]

And C-forms Il, Il Times Gan2 Tenu, and Il2, AKA U+1214B, 1214C and 1214D

Once I'm done I'll make a masterpost for all of them

C-forms Dun, Dun3, Dun3 Gunu, Dun3 Gunu Gunu, Dun4 and Dur2; U+12084-12089

Oh god

C-forms Dag and Dag Kisim5 Times [A Plus Mash, Amar, Balag, Bi, Ga, Ga Plus Mash, Gi, Gir2, Gud, Ha] - AKA U+12056 to 1205F

Alrighty

Today's Catch
(that's right we're back on the fishing metaphors baby)
U+12217 - 1221A: #1206592567622373446 message
U+1222C: #1206592567622373446 message
U+122B9, U+122BA: #1206592567622373446 message
U+12326 - 12328: #1206592567622373446 message
U+1214B - 1214D: #1206592567622373446 message
U+12084 - 12089: #1206592567622373446 message
U+12056 - 1205F: #1206592567622373446 message
U+12146, U+1214E: #1206592567622373446 message
U+1235C: #1206592567622373446 message

Whoops, one more, couldn't resist - Signs Im and Igi, U+12146 and 1214E

Somebody really shoulda told me Cuneiform was this simple. Sign Uzu, U+1235C

Also, I'd recommend changing the recipe for 𓅃 from Isis to Sobek, since Isis is now banned

[trim pond]

I didn't even know you could increment it that easily. but I found a lot now thanks to that strategy. also you can combine them with "alphabet" to get other random Cuneiform is what I also just found out. But maybe just combining with random stuff helps. idk

[olive timber]

These characters look cool

[golden ferry]

i made a unicode that isn't even on the sheet

[olive timber]

How did you get unicode 10.0 etc.

[golden ferry]

check the pins

2F934, another one not on the sheet

U+2F941, U+2F9DA

[sage wren]

this is because its an unassigned block.

[olive timber]

Alr

[sage wren]

The entirety of U+1FBDX & U+1FBEX is unassigned

hence why they're not on the sheet

[golden ferry]

U+1FAC4 isn't on the sheet either

U+2B2A

U+1FACB

U+FF68

this one is confusing, it added something but i can't figure out what

like it's a different element

did it add u+fffc?

[lethal nymph]

also if it's not on sheet, it's either unassigned or not assigned yet in unicode 12

[golden ferry]

oh

[olive timber]

uh

If anyone wants it here

[robust sparrow]

so close to getting pregnant man emoji

[golden ferry]

which unicode is that?

[robust sparrow]

U+1FAC3

[golden ferry]

just 1 character off

[robust sparrow]

bruh i got U+1fac3 , but it converted to the juice box emoji

it also gave me U+1d703 , 👃 , 🙃 , 🏥

[golden ferry]

how did you get it

"..u-1f" is a dead end

[robust sparrow]

add string.append('a')

[golden ferry]

don't have

[robust sparrow]

String.append(' ') + Prepend U+0062 = String.append('b')
String.append('b') + Mr. String.append() = Mr. String.append('b')
Mr. String.append('b') + Previous Alphabet = Mr. String.append('a')

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[golden ferry]

i have "..u-1fa", now what

[robust sparrow]

add string.append('c')

[golden ferry]

got it

task failed successfully

[robust sparrow]

clearly previous alphabet is a fake item

its just directly next unicode in disguise

[lethal nymph]

why in the world do you need string.append

[golden ferry]

how do you get Ü+18

[robust sparrow]

add Ü+1 to itself until you get Ü+10 , then add Ü+7 , to get Ü+17 , then add Ü+1 to get Ü+18

[golden ferry]

i only have Ü+

[robust sparrow]

look at one of those ancient unicode guide google docs

[robust sparrow]

Ü+ + N+1 = Ü+1

N+1 is N and 1

[golden ferry]

got it

[echo wasp]

Cuz that is cjk

go to the cjk ideograph part, it's there

[echo wasp]

same for these two

wait U+2xxxx lol

[trim pond]

all characters from U+12000 - U+1207F, except for U+12034 - U+12037.
the upmost two lines are the last characters from that range

strategies used: Next Letter, Previous Letter, combining with Mr. . and incrementing with Next Letter and then Remove The Mr., combining two previous to get the next one

but yeah. I am convinced you can get like 90% of all Cuneiform like this easily

[trim pond]

here are some interesting cuneiform symbols

[olive timber]

What’s the recipe for the cross and second one?

[olive timber]

🧇 must be made

[robust sparrow]

U+1f9c7

[olive timber]

I got that unicode

[olive timber]

:|

[robust sparrow]

all food emojis have already been found

[golden ferry]

light asked for it

[echo wasp]

u should find a unicode that is U+3xxxx

[olive timber]

Bet

nvm lol

[golden ferry]

yeah i can't get any

U+1D5B6

[echo wasp]

yeah, no one has before

most we have is 2fxxx

[golden ferry]

i noticed

[olive timber]

It’s not the right character

But it is a fancy D

[echo wasp]

Try doing U+3xxx stuff + Unicode 10.0

[olive timber]

Only four digits?

[echo wasp]

yes

i saw that unicode 10.0 sometimes gives 5 digits

[echo wasp]

like this, where four digits were used to get 2f941 and 2f9da

[olive timber]

So i just make a random unicode lol

[echo wasp]

yeah maybe 3a9b

(random one)

[golden ferry]

gives �������������������

[echo wasp]

eh try sth else

was just a random oen

[golden ferry]

not qute 30000

not even one character

[olive timber]

Well it gave an office building

[graceful marsh]

We really need to work out a solution for you figuring out the codepoints you're getting

[chilly fulcrum]

is this all by combining with random or did you just combine characters with each other, or did you use the names of them

solution: force them to be editor so they have to suffer /s

[graceful marsh]

Y'know, I've just realised something odd

Cuneiform is most definitely higher in Unicode order than quotes, right? So 2nd "alphabetically"?

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean ffi is about 60,000 places behind G but still it gets put first

[graceful marsh]

Interesting that Cuneiform is hoisted before quotes then

[echo wasp]

I think u might wanna comment ur stuff, if u haven't done so yet, so that it doesnt get lost forever

[golden ferry]

i made a sheet

[echo wasp]

alr

imma bump up some of my unadded cjk stuff soon

Can someone test U+2b5b + Unicode 10.0

Got fd but not rendering

I'm on mobile rn

U+2b51 + U+2b5a = U+2b5b

[golden ferry]

u+2F95B

[echo wasp]

ah

so another cjk

add that to ur sheet ig

[golden ferry]

it’s not my fd

[echo wasp]

ok yeah

ok so I apparently got another fd

I completely forgot the recipe

[sage wren]

good job.

[echo wasp]

I'll try to remember

I'm currently smashing some recent stuff that I made

[sage wren]

You mustn't. Simply paste an image of what you got and leave everyone in the dark on how to get it.

[echo wasp]

alr

(it's not the one zettaminx checked)

[graceful marsh]

Ah yes, U+23F2C

[golden ferry]

box

[sage wren]

supposedly a box

[trim pond]

well I got to random symbols by combining cuneiform I had with the "alphabet", then used those strategies to advance them forward. tried combining the previous with their names in quotes, but that didn't really work

[chilly fulcrum]

so like symbol + "nameofnext"

but that one didnt work

[graceful marsh]

It works only for base Cuneiform, and even then quite badly

"lugal" was a lucky shot

[trim pond]

Nine + Unicode Sumerian to get 𒉌, then combine that with Mr. . and using Next Letter advance until you get to 𒉲. Sometimes you have to switch by using Remove The Mr. and then increment and switch back. To get the other one: look at lineage. To get 𒀭 just combine Unicode Sumerian with 7 or 8

[trim pond]

well you can look at the lineage I just posted above and there you can see, that it didn't really work how I wanted. But it got me to new cuneiform symbols, so not completely useless

[chilly fulcrum]

whats that seed character everyone uses

like that flower looking one

[trim pond]

it means God I think and I just added the recipe to the description

[echo wasp]

i just realised zettaminx found the highest unicode character so far

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah well theres loads of chars to put in here... like many hundreds potentially

[echo wasp]

gl lol

also i just found a chain for 2xxxx

[chilly fulcrum]

whats the codepoints of these guys

1202d is the seed

[echo wasp]

idk

i odnt have 1202d

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah the seed is easy its just like Cuneiform + something

were you getting these chars?

[echo wasp]

no

ok wait im actually finding quite a lot

[chilly fulcrum]

gonna start here - if you cant edit sheet directly and you want to help see if you can compile some list perhaps or organise it or find some other way to help (ofc if you want to)

[echo wasp]

Here are a few. U+2f95B, as well as U+2f942 to U+2f955, excluding U+2f94c and U+2f953. lmk if i missed anything

[chilly fulcrum]

what was the one zetta found that was the highest

[echo wasp]

2f9da

though i did break it

[chilly fulcrum]

interesting that "..u-12210" is fd....

[echo wasp]

U+2f953

2f9db to 2f9e0

U+2b5e and U+2f9ec

[chilly fulcrum]

these are quite curious indeed - trying to extend this pattern to other values in this small range doesnt work you just get some fallback lazy response - its just only those exact combos that do anything interesting. almost like mobile client gets a different ai lol

[trim pond]

btw where can I find the script you use to get the U+xxxx above the characters?

[echo wasp]

what script

[trim pond]

to see the text above the characters that tells you its exact Unicode value

[echo wasp]

#dev message
should be here

U+2f9ed to U+2f9ff, except for U+2f9f5

[night dragon]

having trouble breaking this

[echo wasp]

u tryna make the emoji i assume

[night dragon]

ye

lineage is crap

its "..u-" + the generic quote stuff then hashtag then mr then combine with + or something

[chilly fulcrum]

bruh what

[trim pond]

thanks

[chilly fulcrum]

"alugal" + every delete i have = "ugal" (fd)

"alugal" is not fd

[night dragon]

posideon hates me 😭

[graceful marsh]

AFAICT whoever did it before me went straight for Lugal Opposing Lugal

...and also someone different did "lug" + 'al'

[echo wasp]

okay what

[night dragon]

asfdkljhflkjsadf

😭

anyway why is fffd so low

[sage wren]

because japanese stuff is higher

[echo wasp]

alr im done commenting :/

hope there is a form next time

[trim pond]

Next Letter + 嶲 = 霣 to get U+2f9f5

[echo wasp]

alr

[chilly fulcrum]

why did you stop at 05f? next letter keeps going to 062

[graceful marsh]

I ran out of space

[chilly fulcrum]

lol ok

[chilly fulcrum]

given the amount of similar looking cuneiform - it would be appropraite to label that the top right element is 12219

[abstract marsh]

laura be doing no mbs challenge and still grind unicodes like a pro

[graceful marsh]

Fair enough. I tried using only the most recognisable ones or immediately preceding ones where possible

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah ik i get it but not everyone knows

some sequences have 20 or 30 in a row that look near identical from a distance

[trim pond]

there's even a sequence of 54 that look the same xd

starting from 𒂷

[graceful marsh]

Which one?

Ah. Ga

Y'know in theory the most should actually be Ka but a lot of the characters are disputed

[trim pond]

I have the first 7 or so, but then I couldn't increment

[graceful marsh]

Actually I'm curious

[trim pond]

ok I took another look at them and I managed to break the barrier :)

ok nvm I only got the next one and can't really get more

[chilly fulcrum]

oh what helped when you took another look

[graceful marsh]

I think that's (^) correct?

Hmm

LU - RA - ŠE - A

[chilly fulcrum]

idk what the marks mean

the accents

i think i did all yours now

[graceful marsh]

Actually yeah, good catch, I'm wrong

That's Lurashea

That's better

[trim pond]

I got Mr. 𒂼𒂾 and used Next Letter to get Mr. 𒂼𒂾𒂿, then just Remove The Mr. and Remove First Character until I got 𒂿. But I am stuck now.

[graceful marsh]

How far did you get

Oh wait next one

[trim pond]

to the ninth one (U+120BF)

[graceful marsh]

So Ga2 x Bar + Ra is the issue then

Hm

[trim pond]

yeah. maybe because it is U+120C0 which needs the B to change into C ?

[chilly fulcrum]

thats often it yes

what was your method to revive all of U+xxx? i cant imagine doung "..u-" 4000 times...

but at the same time i dont have another way to make U+2b0

through 2bf

[trim pond]

do you want to send all recipes for all U+xxx ?

[chilly fulcrum]

i dont think thats feasible lol but any general tips or specific for U+2bx is nice

[trim pond]

"..u-2b0" + U+ = U+2b0

U+++1 + U+2b0 = U+2b1

[chilly fulcrum]

id hate to need to do that every time

[trim pond]

well I had to for most of the U+xx0

[chilly fulcrum]

thats 256 times 💀

[trim pond]

or sometimes you can also combine like U+x10 + U+x30 = U+x40

[chilly fulcrum]

minus hwoever many you had

yeah

and did you have to repeat this for when it goes from 9 -> a

[trim pond]

sometimes even the "..u-" strategy didn't work and I had to use Mr. U+ to get it, sometimes even Mrs. or Baby I recall

[chilly fulcrum]

Mr. U+? i havent seen this used except to exit "..u-"

[trim pond]

Usually not. It worked most of the time, except if you have U+(letter)(letter)9. Also if the U+xx9 doesn't contain any letters, it will usually make U+xxA (uppercase) so I had to revive it using "..u-"

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah also annoying

[trim pond]

like I used Mr. U, Mr. U+, Mr. U+0 to get some U+(letter)(letter)(letter)

[chilly fulcrum]

ive never seen this

[trim pond]

like if no other strategy worked, I would try that

[chilly fulcrum]

damn i cant get past 2b1... like 2b1 + U+++1 = fd, 2b0 + U+++2 = fd, 2b1 + 2b0 = 2b01

[trim pond]

2b1 + U+1

[chilly fulcrum]

interesting

i havent seen that work

can you show me the Mr. U+? like did it let you build codepoints inside of the Mr?

[trim pond]

wdym?

[echo wasp]

randomly found this

[trim pond]

also now that I am looking how I made U+2bx, it was pretty painful. used "..u-" for most of them xD

[chilly fulcrum]

lmao

[trim pond]

for example

and to get Mr. U+f10 I did this.

[abstract marsh]

so all u+xxx is alive?

[trim pond]

yes

I also have all recipes if anyone struggles to make some

[chilly fulcrum]

cool - i mean i wouldnt be able to keep my board organised with so many options

i think this is unassigned but it scared me for a sec

[echo wasp]

not unassigned

its at the cjk section

[chilly fulcrum]

💀

if you happen to have these its not bad

[abstract marsh]

why did you think of incrementing u+b5 with u+++2 😭
try u+++b1

oh nvm i see the problem now

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean i dont know what i was doing i think i was just annoyed

i was trying to make U+2bx

[abstract marsh]

i see

welp i didnt expect i had fd on these two

[stable verge]

hm

[trim pond]

btw which script do you use to get that look with the unicode indicators at the top? would love to try it as well, since I only use HelperScript atm

[abstract marsh]

mbs script, search in dev by ntsq has file

[chilly fulcrum]

lol why combine with U+1a? i guess you wanted U+2ba

[trim pond]

thanks

[abstract marsh]

its either u+1a0 or u+2c0 or u+2a0

idk actually...

[trim pond]

wait how do you load that script? cause I have like 36k elements and it doesn't seem to want to load. Do you reset all data and import?

[chilly fulcrum]

no

same install as for helper

[trim pond]

yeah but like the site doesn't load

ok nvm

[abstract marsh]

i forgot i need to know where to put the code that optimize the loading that was imporved by nata

[chilly fulcrum]

oh wait yeah i remember he made that

i didnt put it in but the speed went up anyway....

lol

[abstract marsh]

oh well mine still the same ( still sub 1 mins loading ), so i might want that

thanks for the description

[echo wasp]

lol

[stable verge]

lol

[trim pond]

lol

[stable verge]

lol

[echo wasp]

I think I mightve found another thing lol

U+2b51 + Unicode 10.1

(yes I'm on mobile)

[chilly fulcrum]

i remember i couldnt break into U+ffxx since "..u-" just doesnt work lol

[echo wasp]

yeah I had to go a bit crazy

[echo wasp]

can someone check what codepoint

[chilly fulcrum]

oh yeah i skipped your goofy unicode 15.1 thing

[golden ferry]

it works

[chilly fulcrum]

.... if you can get past "..u-f"

but yeah idk "ff40" not fd

"..u-" + "ff40" = "..uff40" (fd)

[chilly fulcrum]

so whoever was doing this was doing some crazy stuff

i cant get that far

[echo wasp]

(def not me)

[golden ferry]

(parentheses(

[echo wasp]

accident

[chilly fulcrum]

what the heck were you doing

why didnt you try "..u-"

[echo wasp]

wait no one here has Unicode 10.1?

[golden ferry]

no

[echo wasp]

I did

[golden ferry]

not me

[echo wasp]

wasnt fd

[chilly fulcrum]

if you did, then it wouldnt have been fd when i combined it

[echo wasp]

I didn't even try for ff40

[chilly fulcrum]

oh ok

where did you go in

[chilly fulcrum]

im not gonna use string.appends

idk what im missing a lot of these "ffxx" strings arent fd yet if i combine them with literally anything its an fd

[golden ferry]

"..u-fff" + delete last character

[chilly fulcrum]

like what were they doing

[golden ferry]

...

[echo wasp]

ok so

[chilly fulcrum]

im waiting?

idk

lol

sorry

like what is the missing link here

[echo wasp]

"hi Mr. Unicode 10." + .1 = "hi Mr. Unicode 10.1" 
"hi Mr. Unicode 10.1" + Remove The Word Hi = Mr. Unicode 10.1 
Mr. Unicode 10.1 + Remove The Mr. = Unicode 10.1```

[chilly fulcrum]

ok

[chilly fulcrum]

you have a lot of these, did you have them already?

[trim pond]

yes

got them mostly by combining U+(letter)(letter)

[chilly fulcrum]

fair enough

i guess that would happen a lot

with what you were doing

[trim pond]

or U+ff6 + Uff9 = U+ff69

[trim pond]

combinig U+ff with U+xx

[echo wasp]

no way I'm gonna make a lineage for this

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean 3a9e isnt that bad but i guess you didnt directly go for it

[echo wasp]

yeah Mr. Unicode 10.1.1 tho

[golden ferry]

U+2B2E

[graceful marsh]

Egg

[golden ferry]

Egg

[chilly fulcrum]

how did you get to 3a93? like i assume you werent targeting it and it was an accident

[golden ferry]

U+2B3D

[chilly fulcrum]

2b2t? no way

[golden ferry]

say the line

[chilly fulcrum]

oldest anarchy server in minecraft?

[golden ferry]

👏 👏

[spice lark]

fitmc is that you?

[trim pond]

wait, the mbs script makes the background movable?

[slate whale]

ye

moves all elements

[abstract marsh]

infinite map

[trim pond]

that is very useful

[graceful marsh]

Generated in real time in chunks

You keep going eventually you find the Farlands

[candid trellis]

For the first time ever in 2b2t history. SLAVE LABOUR -

[golden ferry]

how do you get it to work

[slate whale]

turn the setting on

[golden ferry]

did

doesn't do anything

[slate whale]

then while holding ctrl

[golden ferry]

oh cool

[slate whale]

move the background with left mouse

[echo wasp]

ok wait can someone actually see what codepoint U+2b51 + Unicode 10.1 is

[slate whale]

uhh let me find unicode 10.1

[echo wasp]

scroll up

[slate whale]

ok

[echo wasp]

btw is the lineage missing anything that u don't have

[slate whale]

i do miss a bunch of things

never used hi strat

[echo wasp]

you have "hi Mr. "?

[slate whale]

yeah

[echo wasp]

"hi Mr. unicode" + U+0020 = "hi Mr. Unicode "
"hi Mr. Unicode " + '1' = "hi Mr. Unicode 1"```

[chilly fulcrum]

1fbd1

[trim pond]

U+1228F - U+122FF block, stuck at the last one

[chilly fulcrum]

did that same strategy keep working? id like to try it

is there a similar block of cuneiform

[trim pond]

yeah pretty much. sometimes you have to improvise though

until you hit a roadblock

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah im curious about the improvisation trhough

like once the usual tools dont work its over

[trim pond]

yeah

like if you manage to get two neighboring symbols (let's say A and B) and combine them into AB or Mr. AB, then sometimes Next Letter will give you AC, ABC or Mr. ABC and then you just delete the first characters

[chilly fulcrum]

oh interesting thats new

i havent seen that

[trim pond]

used it like 3 times

where nothing else helped

[graceful marsh]

Give Me A Pickup Line About + Unicode Inscriptional Hieratic = 𓅱

Most efficient 𓅱 recipe

[sage wren]

bird

[gloomy gazelle]

Bird from Egypt best letter

[sonic heart]

I love bird from egypt

[echo wasp]

someone try for the lowercase turned delta thingy

also so rn the highest unicode we have is U+2f9ff right

[chilly fulcrum]

idk maybe?

lowercase turned delta

alr

ill try

[echo wasp]

U+1f7ed + Unicode 10.0 gave an fd

on mobile, cant check :/

[slate whale]

1f72d

[trim pond]

U+12100 - U+12164 and U+12195 - U+121BF, and U+121FD

[echo wasp]

same strat again right

[trim pond]

yep

[chilly fulcrum]

combning the two previous joins them way more often in this block

i used to have a trump card for some blocks

but then update

it now rarely works

[echo wasp]

U+2f9af

[chilly fulcrum]

oh god wait i dont have that one

[echo wasp]

shld be in discord search

[robust sparrow]

Unicode Nüshu ?

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah ik it should be documented

hopefully on the sheet it is as well

if not ill fix it

[robust sparrow]

here is a tiny lineage , you discord search for Mongolian Unicode

[chilly fulcrum]

i have that already

[stable verge]

yeah

[chilly fulcrum]

its documented well on the sheet in numerous places

[stable verge]

just search Unicode Nüshu

[echo wasp]

shit found another chain

[stable verge]

what

[echo wasp]

this one's a bit long

[graceful marsh]

Aha, another pickup line

[abstract marsh]

chain is lovely one to find... but when it does until 100+ elements
its not a fun one anymore... just pure torture grind

[stable verge]

yes

[echo wasp]

yes and its currently showing no signs of stopping

[stable verge]

oh is it a farm then

that is gonna be pain

[abstract marsh]

just check the codeblock
most likely u can get most of it from that block

[stable verge]

my friends is still at 900000+

[echo wasp]

ok wait it mercifully ended

[stable verge]

like hes just getting it for fd's

[echo wasp]

wasnt actually that long come to think of it

had longer ones before

U+2f9af to U+2f9bf

[echo wasp]

huh

here are two more

swapped order lol

and U+2f9ae

[stable verge]

nice

[slate whale]

i swear this ai doesnt wanna give me this emote

[sonic heart]

What emoji is that

[stable verge]

huh?

[echo wasp]

pouch

[slate whale]

pouch

[echo wasp]

why do i not have pouch

[stable verge]

pouch

[sonic heart]

👝 pouch emoji

[slate whale]

it goes to bag

or anything close enough

[echo wasp]

does it go to purse

[slate whale]

and this

[slate whale]

i dont have that emoji so no

[echo wasp]

cuz caterpillar likes becoming purse for some reason

when u use its codepoint

[echo wasp]

i even have these man

[stable verge]

lol

[echo wasp]

almost all recipes for the catepillar codepoint

caterpillar

[slate whale]

let me this this caterpillar

wait u want to append/prepend it

[final sable]

Delete The (Word) Append or Delete The (Word) Prepend maybe

[echo wasp]

ok yeah idk

[final sable]

I’m so pissed there isn’t a chip emoji or dorito emoji, where do I complain to unicode? ._.

[stable verge]

lol

[final sable]

fr that’s surprising tho right?

[stable verge]

yes

[final sable]

chips (“crisps” in UK) are one of the most popular foods in the whole western world I think

time to make a petition

[echo wasp]

surprised that this was fd

[stable verge]

wow

use it for check the pins

[graceful marsh]

✅ the 📌 when

[final sable]

📌-sized 🍆 when

[echo wasp]

too lazy rn

just closed my ic by accident

[graceful marsh]

9:15 PM is a good a bedtime as any

[slate whale]

you tried that with pouch right?

[echo wasp]

yep

[slate whale]

unlucko

[echo wasp]

yay gotta wait 5 mins again

i meant 3 minutes

ah yes

all thumbs up

i wonder when will we get 3xxxx and above

[olive timber]

Idk what to do about it 😭

[echo wasp]

i cant increment past this lol

[abstract marsh]

quite common behaviour

oh well that doesnt look like it was different codeblock
could be a way to increment it using tools?

[echo wasp]

maybe

[olive timber]

Back to grinding for hopefully the right unicodes

[echo wasp]

a few more

[graceful marsh]

Hm

I feel like there's something I should say right now but I can't put my finger on it

[echo wasp]

what

also

[slate whale]

ahahha

[echo wasp]

man

nvr mind lol

[echo wasp]

got it

[slate whale]

nice

[olive timber]

How is unicode sumerian made

[trim pond]

Unicode Batak + Sumerian

[olive timber]

Thanks

[robust sparrow]

wow AI is so smart

[echo wasp]

ikr

Llama AI IQ: <<1000000000

[trim pond]

can someone put these recipes to the spreadsheet cause I can't figure out how to enter them. they are from right to left

2073 :: ࠘ + ࠘ = ࠙
2074 :: ࠙ + ࠙ = ࠚ
2075 :: ࠙ + ࠚ = ࠛ
2076 :: ࠙ + ࠛ = ࠜ
2077 :: ࠜ + ࠙ = ࠝ
2078 :: ࠝ + ࠙ = ࠞ
2079 :: ࠞ + ࠙ = ࠟ
2080 :: ࠟ + ࠙ = ࠠ
2081 :: ࠠ + ࠙ = ࠡ
2082 :: ࠡ + ࠙ = ࠢ
2083 :: ࠢ + ࠙ = ࠣ
2086 :: ࠣ + ࠙ = ࠦ
2087 :: ࠦ + ࠙ = ࠧ
2088 :: ࠧ + ࠙ = ࠨ
2092 :: ࠨ + ࠙ = ࠬ
2093 :: ࠬ + ࠙ = ࠭
2094 :: ࠙ + ࠭ = ࠮
2095 :: ࠙ + ࠮ = ࠯
2096 :: ࠙ + ࠯ = ࠰

[chilly fulcrum]

oh

what do those numbers mean

[echo wasp]

probably the codepoint

cant be sure

[chilly fulcrum]

but why reversed

that doesn’t make sense to me then

[slate whale]

its right to left thingy

ig

[trim pond]

like its samaritan

the numbers are the U+xxxx but converted to decimal

the double colon isn't part of the recipe

[chilly fulcrum]

Ah they are decimal

[trim pond]

because when I try to copy it, I always copy the character and also the preceding space, but I can't figure out how to copy without the space

[chilly fulcrum]

what made that

[trim pond]

my program

[chilly fulcrum]

Does it take console as the input?

[trim pond]

well yes, it just gets all recipes for a single character and then makes a sorted list from all of them so that I can easily enter it into the spreadsheet

[chilly fulcrum]

There’s a slightly experimental and still somewhat buggy input tool which lets you copy and paste the console and it automatically puts everything in for you, but there’s numerous caveats

[trim pond]

U+1240F - U+12451.

[slate whale]

i added everything from the sheet

and some missing from hangul and cjk too (maybe like 4)

[chilly fulcrum]

Nice

Damn you are really getting every character

How are you choosing your ranges to try

[graceful marsh]

Aw, you got the numbers

[chilly fulcrum]

We must be close to 40%

[graceful marsh]

I was going for those

:[

[trim pond]

uhm... just looking at what characters I have and trying to increment from the last one as far as I can. Like I have a bunch of random characters from a couple months back, so I just increment those. When I am done, then there will still be some ranges left so that will be fun...

[graceful marsh]

Alright, so ﷽, 𒐫, and 𒈙 are down...

[trim pond]

😦 there are still some left before and after that range I posted

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah I wish I could check that easier

[trim pond]

I got stuck on the last one

[chilly fulcrum]

regex would let me find that ez

no longer need to copy and paste the character one at a time

[trim pond]

entry point is this, if you want to try to increment even further

[graceful marsh]

Nah, you go for it if you want

I've got new targets now

[trim pond]

btw do you think it is necessary to put recipes for elements like Mr. 𒀇 into the spreadsheet? Because a lot of the recipes require Mr. xx which you can easily get by incrementing previous Mr. xxs usually. so like for the easy ones I would skip those if that is ok

[graceful marsh]

Wait shit

Superbigs down: ﷽, 𒐫, 𒈙, ⸻, ဪ, ௵, ௸, ‱
Superbigs left: ꧅

I can't believe this

[trim pond]

it is a lot of recipes and if I was to put all of them there, then that would be quite painful

[trim pond]

those are the longest characters?

[graceful marsh]

They're the ones that are on this list: https://unicode-explorer.com/list/large

[trim pond]

: )

[graceful marsh]

I will fight you for this last one

[olive timber]

Alright so

[trim pond]

is that the symbol?

[olive timber]

No it isnt

What changed

[trim pond]

first part, the second vertical line is gone

[olive timber]

Oh

Anyone want to check this

[graceful marsh]

Hmph

Knowing Javanese isn't as helpful this time

[trim pond]

sad to inform you, but it was already found

[graceful marsh]

Aw

I was annoyed that it recognised what it meant when written out

Alright

Superbigs down: ﷽, 𒐫, 𒈙, ⸻, ꧅, ဪ, ௵, ௸, ‱

Anyone have another list of funny characters

[trim pond]

added the recipe to the spreadsheet

[graceful marsh]

Oh yeah I remember now

[trim pond]

maybe the tallest characters?

[olive timber]

I was looking up a list for that lol

[regal fulcrum]

yo hey hi

[graceful marsh]

I think half parentheses are the tallest

Next to the Padas

[slate whale]

best tools

[graceful marsh]

What about every fish in Unicode?

[trim pond]

or U+12345

[graceful marsh]

https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2606:_Weird_Unicode_Math_Symbols

This list?

[trim pond]

I got stuck at 𒌿 actually. That is U+1233F

[trim pond]

hi

[trim pond]

U+19EA and U+19EB look kinda like a face xD so maybe those?

[graceful marsh]

Yeah sure

The list: ⧍, ⏧, ⨳, ⩼, ⦞, ⨄, ⭈, ≝, ⍼, ⩐, ⩩, ⍨, ℘, ⫁, ⌭, ⨓, ⨋

Wait most of these are already found

Mmm

What about this pair of pants: 𖠥

Why does Unicode Bamum softlock to Pahawh Hmong Vowel Keeb

I don't understand

[abstract marsh]

damn its even a proper one

[final sable]

I love how unoptimal the unicode lineages in the bot are XD

they always make me use \lineage like 5 times in a row 😂

[golden ferry]

U+273D, i keep discovering new unicodes on accident

and again, U+273F

[golden ferry]

this one isn't on the sheet yet

[elder orchid]

U+2FFF0
<retroactive edit: can be used to get U+2FFFF>

U+1D882

U+1D797

I've added comments for the last two in the unicode sheet, but I can't find 2FFF0 in the sheet to add the first one..?

[final sable]

i- is that a bold italic capital theta… 😂

[elder orchid]

Yup, it's "MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL THETA" according to the sheet

[final sable]

😭

Unicode has strayed too far from god, it must be stopped

[elder orchid]

Yeah I've been trying to get the full greek alphabet recently, and discovering that character kinda killed my motivation...

[final sable]

I’m the person who completed the ordinary Greek alphabet, lower case and capital 😌

hence the xi in my discord nickname :D

[slate whale]

isnt that zeta

[final sable]

nop

[slate whale]

i see

[elder orchid]

Nice ! I'm also trying to get the full name of the greek letters, I've got them all except one (Έψιλον, with the proper tonos), and it's driving me crazy :p

But that's a bit out of theme for this channel to talk about

[final sable]

JohnyQ is your guy for things like that

he has some Greek bounty threads actually

[elder orchid]

Thanks... I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with that ^^'

[elder orchid]

Okay, good to know. Thanks for the tip 🙂

[tepid blaze]

its just a character that dont exist

[elder orchid]

Ah ok, so it's not listed? Fair enough

[trim pond]

I hate it how it just randomly stops incrementing 😦

[final sable]

what variants of the greek alphabet are you most interested in? :D

I know Johny still hasn’t managed to get all the lowercase letters with accents

his progress is
ά✅
έ
ύ
ί
ό✅
ή
ώ
ϋ
ΰ
ϊ✅
ΐ ✅
(but that might not be up to date)

[elder orchid]

Right now I'm more focused on the proper epsilon name, since it's the very last one I'm missing, at least I'll know I'll have completed something when I find it :p
I'll try to get the letters I still miss later, one thing at a time 🙂

[final sable]

Imagine if translating elements like Fix The Typo to greek worked XD

[elder orchid]

U+1D876

U+1D838

[trim pond]

finally found last katakana letter small

[golden ferry]

U+297A

U+2B91

[trim pond]

only 7 japanese characters remain now

[elder orchid]

U+1D783

[golden ferry]

U+2BF5

U+2B56

[elder orchid]

Got 𝞃 (U+1D783) and 𝞗 (U+1D797), combined them to get 𝞂 (U+1D782), and I kept doing all possible combinations from what I was getting until I stopped getting new characters.

[golden ferry]

U+2B5B, U+2B5C, U+2B5D... somehow all first discoveries

who got the unicodes and just gave up

[trim pond]

try combining 𝞔 + Prepend Mr. and also 𝞕 + Prepend Mr. and then combine those together, and also try Mr. 𝞕 + Next Letter, then just use Remove The Mr. to remove Mr.

[final sable]

hmm I guess they only knew about Convert To Unicode and not Concert To Unicode++

[golden ferry]

i hate how inconsistent unicode is

[golden ferry]

also concert to unicode lol

[final sable]

yeah Next Letter and Next Alphabet are really good, but it’s questionable whether they’ll work on such an obscure alphabet (Bold + Italic + Sans Serif) 😅

[final sable]

one of my proudest achievements is finding consistent unicode tech for the normal Greek alphabet

[golden ferry]

most normal unicode lineage

U+296F

U+296E

U+2B6D

[echo wasp]

wait though this is unassigned, this is the highest unicode we have rn

[golden ferry]

damn
U+2FFE

Another fail, U+2FFA

[elder orchid]

*proud*

[elder orchid]

I may try that tomorrow, thanks for the suggestion

[golden ferry]

new highest 4 digit? U+FFFE
can't add it to my spreadsheet because it's literally nothing lol

[elder orchid]

Your remark made me curious, so I tried moving up in the unicodes. I got to U+2FFFF from U+2FFF0 by doing Next Alphabet or Next Letter or by combining with previous U+2FFF* I got.
So... U+2FFFF record to break? :p

[elder orchid]

In the end I tried this evening, but it didn't work. I'll try for the other gaps though.

[trim pond]

k. sometimes it works

[trim pond]

did you also try Mr. Z + Next Letter?

[elder orchid]

Yep it just gives that

[trim pond]

: (

[elder orchid]

This worked though (U+1D79D)

[elder orchid]

Your method worked for U+1D79E 🙂 (actually it also worked for U+1D79A, but I actually already had it, I must have mistakenly removed it the first time)

And the method with Prepend Mr. followed by some Next worked too 🙂 (U+1D7AA)

[elder orchid]

U+1D7B0

[echo wasp]

yeah I guess

just one away from 3xxxx

[chilly fulcrum]

ok what was the entry again?

like codepoints dont work up that high

[graceful marsh]

Luck, it seems

[echo wasp]

yeah, most of the 2xxxx are sheer luck

[graceful marsh]

Me when I make the tool Give Me A Random Unicode

[echo wasp]

u need me to let u copy it

[golden ferry]

wdym

[echo wasp]

the character

[golden ferry]

https://symbl.cc/

can also just go to console

[echo wasp]

oh yeah

just add to spreadsheet ig

[sage wren]

(◕‿◕)

[golden ferry]

has U+FFFF been found yet?

or is it impossible

[echo wasp]

should be possible

try incrementing from fffe

[golden ferry]

i'll try

[golden ferry]

what do you use to increment?

nothing i have works

[echo wasp]

I'm pretty sure all I use is what u use

also try doing U+fffd + U+fffe (the characters)

[golden ferry]

didn't work

has anyone gotten U+FFFC?

[echo wasp]

no

btw did u try U+2ffff + convert to unicode stuff

[golden ferry]

and U+3ffff

[echo wasp]

both didn't work I assur

assume

[chilly fulcrum]

things up that high dont work

[echo wasp]

yeah im talking about U+ffff, cuz he used the same method for fffe

[chilly fulcrum]

what like U+2fffe

[echo wasp]

yeah

[chilly fulcrum]

this i have to see

[elder orchid]

Tried multiple of those things, none worked, I just get U+2FFFF all the time

[echo wasp]

ar

alr

someone shld go for U+fffx

[golden ferry]

nothing worked with U+1FFFF

[golden ferry]

gives � a lot

[echo wasp]

btw what is U+2fffc + Convert to unicode