Scary error while booting

[sage perch]

So I just tried to boot my PC and i got this error

I would be happy to provide more context but i know nothing

[regal notch]

this is after the grub screen, right?

so does selecting the previous deployment help?

[sage perch]

Yes after grub

How would i select previous deployment

[vague sapphire]

It's in your grub menu- current deployment is at top, while previous you would select one below

[sage perch]

Ahh

Ill try

[regal notch]

when the grub menu appears, there should be two entries: one ending (ostree:0), and one ending (ostree:1)

quickly press the down arrow ⬇️ to select (ostree:1)

[vague sapphire]

@regal notch explains it better/more specifically OP

If it doesn't load, I would almost bet on filesystem; if it does, odd but not likely catastrophic

[regal notch]

yeah, i was concerned by seeing dracut-cmdline: input luks-[uuid] is not an absolute file system path

the docs should probably be updated to tell people to set up borgbackup or something lol

[sage perch]

I tried choosi g ostree:1

Didnt work

[vague sapphire]

Yeah totally. Im starting to sour on BTRFS again- stuff like this shouldn't happen this late in the game. Given the benefits of atomic rollbacks, im thinking about setting up a Secureblue install using ext4

[vague sapphire]

Same errors roughly?

[sage perch]

Same errors yes

[regal notch]

i think btrfs is a dependency for fedora atomic based on how ostree works

[vague sapphire]

That isn't good- I would basically expect either a hardware issue (unlikely) or filesystem

[sage perch]

Do i just reinstall or could there be a fix

[vague sapphire]

Really? I knew that was the case for OpenSuse's atomic variant since it uses btrfs snapshots, but I wasn't aware of ostree requiring it

[regal notch]

if you don't have any data you want to recover... reinstall

[sage perch]

Would be nice to know a fix in case it happens to somebody else

[vague sapphire]

I would be curious if you could mount luks/btrfs independently; if you could it would be (somehow) a secureblue issue. I doubt it though. Nonetheless you would learn whether it was a luks issue or a btrfs issue

To do that though you would need to boot a liveusb, mount the luks container to /dev/mapper, mount the filesystem, etc.

[sage perch]

Im a beginner so im not capable of doing that really

[vague sapphire]

But as Alex says, if you have nothing to lose you could reinstall. If you do have stuff to lose or are curious, maybe ask Royal or Rootkit about it

[sage perch]

Lets wait and see what Royal says, he might have seen the issue before

[regal notch]

ostree needs btrfs i think. opensuse doesn't use ostree, it has its own implementation

[vague sapphire]

You're always a beginner somewhere in Linux land- always more to learn 😛

[sage perch]

Im an absolute beginner so

[vague sapphire]

Good to know

No shame in that. One of the best things about Fedora and its derivatives are that the userbase generally aren't snobs

[regal notch]

@vague sapphire i lied:

Because OSTree operates at the Unix filesystem layer, it works on top of any filesystem or block storage layout; it’s possible to replicate a given filesystem tree from an OSTree repository into plain ext4, BTRFS, XFS, or in general any Unix-compatible filesystem that supports hard links. Note: OSTree will transparently take advantage of some BTRFS features if deployed on it.

[vague sapphire]

I can see why you'd think that though, especially if you've ever read about how Opensuse does it

[regal notch]

so maybe zfs time

it's just a pain for obvious reasons

[vague sapphire]

Yeah but the licensing crap makes it a pain

yeah

ext4 + atomic rollbacks + solid backup scheme is probably where I want to be

[regal notch]

i just really like CoW

[vague sapphire]

Yeah. Kent Overstreet has really frustrated me because I've been praying for bcachefs to work out

I run a btrfs raid1 on 2.5" el cheapo SSDs that has been awesome- its great when it works. But I don't want to stink up OPs thread. Let me quote the OPs original post for royal:

[vague sapphire]

@modern wadi this issue by the OP look familiar to you?

[prime pulsar]

You need three pings to summon him

Let me help you

@modern wadi

[sage perch]

Hahahahah

[modern wadi]

that's not correct, you're thinking of opensuse

[modern wadi]

oops you already corrected yourself lol

[modern wadi]

yes, @sage perch @prime pulsar @regal notch this is one of the longest standing, most critical bugs in ostree that they haven't fixed after four years

https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree/issues/2283

@sage perch please post this on the issue. i think they are still not aware of how critical this is and how often this happens

there's also a really annoying workaround to fix it, on the thread

[sage perch]

I would've been happy to help, but unfortunately I am going to another country for vacation soon and I will not have access to my PC. I have some imoprtant files on that SSD, so I cant really mess around with it, and I will likely end up reinstalling. But yeah, i guess I got that unlucky for such an odd thing to have happened to me 🤣

[modern wadi]

i escalated it and Colin put it on their upcoming milestone :))

[sage perch]

Thank you. I wonder how such a serious issue didn't get as much attention.

[modern wadi]

it did it's just borderline impossible to reproduce

consistently that is

[sage perch]

I hope we get to know the cause soon.

[wary geyser]

Remembered to do that as well.

Just commented there

Had that two times now with bazzite, happily not with my secureblue install yet

[prime pulsar]

lul you'll make it sound like my installation is a ticking bomb

Stop that!

[sage perch]

What if it is 🤨

[prime pulsar]

That's mobbing, stop mobbing me

[regal notch]

found the german? (nvm just saw your support post lol)

[prime pulsar]

Yeah I was thinking about that. It's "bullying" in English, correct?

[regal notch]

it's very standard denglisch though

i remember some from the german kids at school, "old timer", "handy", etc.

mobbing is apparently an english word but i've only ever heard it from germans

[modern wadi]

@dusk mulch what is this

[prime pulsar]

Bot?

[modern wadi]

idk but dont click

sec

[modern wadi]

ok they banned 🙂

[subtle bluff]

I've actually had this issue twice in the past few weeks lol

But, I just got mad, shut my machine off, turned it back on, and it worked as usual

Both times

[subtle bluff]

Mobbing in english is a group ganging up on somebody. A mob is a loose group of people with a similar motive, it has a negative connotation. Like rioters and mobsters (which is an old word for gangsters).

[prime pulsar]

I see, thanks. In that case he had been bullying me.

[subtle bluff]

Mobbing means bullying in German though? That's really cool, I was unaware. Germanic based languages are so close that it makes for some interesting correlations.

[prime pulsar]

Yes, basically. Where are you from? England?

[subtle bluff]

Oh I'm from Texas man 😂