#Question about web browsers

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west summit
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I'm sure you've read this section of GrapheneOS's FAQ:
https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing

I personally use Trivalent for most of my browsing, with the occasional Tor Browser in between.

hidden cave
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personally I wouldn't recommend Brave given their history of basically acting as adware: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#Controversies

Brave has received negative press for diverting ad revenue from websites to itself, collecting unsolicited donations for content creators without their consent, suggesting affiliate links in the address bar and installing a paid VPN service without the user's consent.

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my understanding is that Brave's supposed "fingerprinting protection" is also still fairly weak—if your threat model requires anonymity in your web browsing activities then you should really be using Tor Browser (possibly via Tails or Whonix depending on your other security considerations), as it ensures that all Tor Browser users have an identical fingerprint

little zenith
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Dont use Mullvad browser and only use Tor in a VM

little zenith
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I mean Tor should only be used in a VM if you intend to use it, otherwise it is security risk

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Mullvad, and any other Firefox based browser for that matter, is less secure than any Chromium based browser, granted if both are up-to-date

tall thunder
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Mullvad is considered private, not secure. Biggest twist up people make when choosing browsers

little zenith
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well, poor security can result in poor privacy

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such is the case with FF browsers

waxen oar
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the issue with brave isn't "bloat"

fingerprinting protection

"anti-fingerprinting" is 90% snakeoil and marketing

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it's like saying "all-natural" or "health food"

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doesn't actually carry any weight

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the only way to actually prevent fingerprinting, despite its faults, is with Tor Browser

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If you want companies not to learn information about you without using Tor Browser, your best option is to simply not use their services

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what does Trivalent not have that you want?

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right

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you can just use ublock origin lite for that

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chrome://settings/security

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enable extensions

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extensions and settings are also per-profile

alpine oriole
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Or you could use Piped or Invidious

waxen oar
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so you can make a separate profile just for Youtube

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and then install ubo lite

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and then install youtube as a PWA

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voila, trivalent Youtube PWA in its own profile 🙂

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also looks cool

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fingerprinted by extensions

i have no idea what you mean

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"fingerprinting" isn't a real concern

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it's a marketing scheme

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that unfortunately a lot of people fall for

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it would be a harmless charade if it didn't also give people a false sense of security

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which is dangerous since it makes people ignore actual security concerns

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like poor sandboxing, poor site isolation, etc etc

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also WASM/JIT vulns

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etc

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anyways though the point of profiles is isolating your workflows

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so i can for example have my personal stuff in one profile and my work stuff in another

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they aren't comparable and it doesn't have security features from Tor Browser

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Tor Browser is not a secure browser

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it's an anonymity browser

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so it's not at all a mixed bag. you'd be far better off with any chromium based browser, Chrome, Edge, etc

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😄 i think of this bit every time i hear the words "fingerprinting" and "privacy"

alpine oriole
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@waxen oar Having PWAs in a separate profile might make sense too so you dont accidentally delete your cookies including the data of your pwas right?

waxen oar
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it's one of the oldest professions: selling cures for problems they don't have so you convince them they do

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it is in the sense that you can only reduce security for specific applications by putting insecure stuff in a single profile

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for example discord calls need a less secure WebRTC setting

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so you can have a separate profile for discord

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so that the default is still the most secure option

waxen oar
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"River City ain't in any trouble"

"Gonna have to create some devious"

hidden cave
waxen oar
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allowing extensions in one profile

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not to mention Firefox forks claiming they're a highly secure browser option 😛

hidden cave
waxen oar
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yeah that's true

waxen oar
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great movie btw

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a classic