To clarify, its the rolelist in question, not the roles that spawned
Also no FF
I'll go first
Archmage
Conj-Rit
Poisoner
CD-Wildling
Medusa banned
Coven Town Traitor is on
#What's the strongest coven you can do *via rolelist*?
flat wagon
finite panther
Should have cultist in there
Also if you're adding modifiers also ctt
And flexible factions if you wanna go in that direction
full stream
And flexible factions if you wanna go in that direction
Cyan said no ff
flat wagon
Should have cultist in there
cultist means only 3 coven so no
finite panther
cultist means only 3 coven so no
Cultist yes cause tt vigi/jailor is broken
Just have tt jailor and indoc vigi or vice versa
flat wagon
Cultist yes cause tt vigi/jailor is broken
that's kinda hard to get yk...?
finite panther
that's kinda hard to get yk...?
Strongest possible. We're not accounting for odds here
flat wagon
via the rolelist...
flat wagon
the question is whats the best you can do on a rolelist
flat wagon
in the average case scenario
cultist + indoc performs worse than 2 covens
finite panther
in the average case scenario
cultist + indoc performs worse than 2 covens
Key word is possible
flat wagon
Key word is possible
...
im asking for the strongest rolelist lineup
night wing
that's kinda hard to get yk...?
I think false town has the most potential for an absolutely insane coven at least for official decks
I’d probably say
Cult
Witch
Cd
TT
night wing
maybe witch-ck
full stream
maybe witch-ck
Witch is not strong at all
And it's more about via rolelist
Which is why cultist isn't included
Witch is only strong if it's jailor or vigi and you know who they are
night wing
Witch is not strong at all
strongest cow imo
cpow
plus with witch-ck dreamweaver could fake witch someone
so people fake claim
then ritualist eats everything
anyone who doesn’t die to rot is likely tpow faking
so cult just swoops em up
or if it is witch witch reveals
so cult can get an easy —if admittedly loud— conv
mossy holly
To clarify, its the rolelist in question, not the roles that spawned
Also no FF
...
Archmage
Conjurer
Wildling - Illusionist
Common Coven
Town Traitor
Banned
VM - Dusa (both too loud for their value to matter on this list)
Wild/Illu is a diabolical bucket but it exists to basically make sure town can’t whisper nor trust anyone hanged is actually town. Arch can always retrain them on N1 as well if they don’t want to be one of those roles.
Conj insta balls on d2 pretty obvious and can be retrained and Arch becomes rit
or witch depending on if Jailor/vigi exist
Now for my joke submission
Hex Master
Hex Master
Hex Master
Hex Master
Town Traitor
Modifiers
Grace Period
night wing
wait
that’s
that’s actually a good idea
if you slim that down
hold
Like if you had
HM
HM
retri (coven)
mossy holly
FF isn’t allowed 
night wing
Me when I talk about something as a different idea expanding on a joke idea and someone tries to nag on me for not complying with the original (admittedly restrictive) question
full stream
strongest cow imo
It is almost the same strength as a pois if vigi/jailor don't exist
It's only good in aa
full stream
then ritualist eats everything
Has to wait a while
full stream
so people fake claim
No they just don't full claim in a lot of situations but sometimes they'll just full claim anyways
But usually they don't
Especially if they know there is a set Dreamweaver in a list
lime snow
4 RC since it gives town the least information, and then just get REALLY LUCKY.
full stream
4 RC since it gives town the least information, and then just get REALLY LUCKY.
Cyan said it's the rolelist in question not the roles that spawned
flat wagon
4 RC since it gives town the least information, and then just get REALLY LUCKY.
4 Any since it gives town the least information, and then just get REALLY LUCKY
(yeah, we're talking about the strongest rolelist, not the strongest role lineup)
mossy holly
Now for my joke submission
Hex Master
Hex Master
Hex Master
Hex Master
Town Tr...
Within the rules set
- No FF
- Must be a role list
- Coven must be as strong as possible
- (Implied) Must be a “fair” list like 5v10
The best list for coven I think is just
Modifiers
Grace Period
Coven Town Traitor
Town (11)
Retributionist (1)
Retributionist (2)
Retributionist (3)
Retributionist (4)
Retributionist (5)
Retributionist (6)
Retributionist (7)
Retributionist (8)
Retributionist (9)
Retributionist (10)
Retributionist (11)
Coven (4)
Hex Master
Hex Master
Hex Master
Hex Master
Town isn’t nerfed on purpose but it exists as a way to make sure retri is TT. I’m like 95% sure the cap of 6 of the same role was removed if not replace the other Retris with Amnes and it’s the same thing basically
flat wagon
Within the rules set
1. No FF
2. Must be a role list
3. Coven must be as strong ...
what
what happened to necromancer ;-;
mossy holly
Retri can re-use hex Necro can’t they just get diffed they have no place on this list
night wing
hold
imagine that necro is retri and that PM is HM
wait
thats far too slow
assuming nothing gets in the way of the hexes this win in 6 hexings
uhh
this makes it 4
i prob would have to get rid of exe and just make it 3 hm and a retri
mossy holly
why only 3 “coven”
night wing
i thought i was cooking with the exe there
silver rain
finite panther
Also bypasses tp
flat wagon
i kinda did say no FF