If your target were to be found with Murder, you will not find them Trespassing.
Indirectly buffs the following:
- Soul Collector
- Hypnoweaver
#Investigator Nerf - Loons
analog jasper
waxen sphinx
How does it buff SC?
analog jasper
How does it buff SC?
No longer outs its existence when Berserker isn't found with Trespassing.
waxen sphinx
Ooh I like that
hazy rain
Hmmm I don't think you're allowed to be he- HEY HOLD IT RIGHT THERE YOU MURDEROUS SCUM
waxen sphinx
Wait this is a jailor fake claim buff let's go
analog jasper
real
main beacon
If your target were to be found with Murder, you will not find them Trespassing....
This is gas
trim mulch
If your target were to be found with Murder, you will not find them Trespassing....
If invest still has to encroach on coroner's niche, then yeah this is good. But I would rather murder just be deleted.
native imp
invest still needs to check for murder
it’s just overriding trespass is funny and gives discrepancy for Tk claiming
if invest didn’t ever check for blood a ww that was seen on a coven member could forever get away with have just trespass, but murder would likely not bode well with their cleric claim or whatever
but this change lets them have discrepancy or even let people get away with swapping who really is the vigi that shot someone in tt modes or something
also the amount of times I’ve been outed as ww with my invest claim just because bookholder was enchanter
like
Aaaaa
hazy rain
If invest still has to encroach on coroner's niche, then yeah this is good. But ...
I feel like realistically if we want to (convince Tuba to) get rid of murder, trespassing would need to be more viable in the late-game
Actually idk if Tuba had that opinion, but it seems to be a popular one that murder is needed for late-game
trim mulch
Actually idk if Tuba had that opinion, but it seems to be a popular one that mur...
Not really, TIs should fall off late game
hazy rain
I wasn't saying what it should be, I was saying what I think would make it more likely for murder to be removed
native imp
Not really, TIs **should** fall off late game
The humble tt hunt
cinder epoch
native imp
I understand that not every game mode does tt hunt where ti’s can’t directly out the tt (unless they lie about a visit or something), and that not even every tt game goes to hunt, but imo ti’s should NOT get weaker overtime
if anything invest is the only one that does, because trespassing means less as the game progresses
so what if instead of trespassing lasting forever, it only checks if they had trespassed in the last 3 nights?
native imp
or some other variable amount
hazy rain
3 might be too much to be relevant, so maybe 2 nights if we go that route
Though that also feels short
native imp
3 feels like too much
2 feels like too little
if you go for 2:
it kindasqueezes who they could've trespassed on, as one of 4 people is evil/lying, being the tresspasser, the tresspasse's, and the investigator (barring n1 and hitting UO/Not or whatever
if you go for 3:
it feels like theres too much, as there are theoretically 5 people in that one of us is lying
analog jasper
Night checked + prior 2 nights
native imp
i think 2 would be fine
analog jasper
there you go. 2.5
native imp
this is if we wanted to make tresspassing more meaningful d4 and after
imo invest is fine in its current state
but with this nerf there should be at least something in return
native imp
invest still needs to check for murder
if murder is completely removed from investigator then it becomes the weakest ti after d3
the only thing it could find after is sc
really
primal bridge
I think its fine that investigator falls off, since dousing TI get stronger instead (Coroner, Spy, Seer)