Serial Killer Rework

[gusty surge]

Name: Serial Killer

Faction: Neutral Killing

Sub-Alignment: Serial Killer

Basic Attack
Basic Defense

Abilities:

• Attack [🌙♾️]: Deal a basic attack to your target. However, if anyone else visits your target on the same night they will get the Witness status effect and will receive the message "You saw someone viciously attack your target!". You will automatically attack anyone who visits your target that already has the Witness status effect. If your target survives, they will receive the Witness status effect and the message "You saw someone viciously stab you, but (protection message)"
• Removing Evidence [Passive]: If you attack someone with the Witness status effect directly, you will do a Powerful Attack instead, to both them and any visiting witnesses.

Attributes:

• You will always know who YOUR Witnesses are, but not the ones for other Serial Killers
• A Serial Killer will NEVER receive the Witness status effect, but will still receive the message as normal.
• [Hidden Attribute] Removing Evidence wont trigger on Witnesses from a different Serial killer, unless they are a witness to you as well

[teal seal]

Bit loud if SecretKillers is on, but I think it's a good idea

Do they learn if/who got the Witness effect

[gusty surge]

Yes

They know who the witnesses are

[gusty surge]

Thats the intention, but it doesnt reveal the exact person like jinx does

[gusty surge]

Added some specification attributes

[plush sluice]

Isn’t this just Werewolf but different

[verbal cove]

This is a weak rampage and I like the idea of bloodlust

[gusty surge]

And honestly having weaker rampage is okay for the high KP this role has
At minimum its 1 KPN
But then socially the seeing sk attack helps find sk but not instantly
Plus you can hit through defense if they're a witness
Meaning for example mon is in danger if they see SK

[gusty surge]

Ehhhh?
It cant track or anything

[verbal cove]

Does it socially help at all??? this kind of just seems like a werewolf side grade where it has weaker rampage But can attack night one and night 3

But the thing is werewolf is not a good role

It's incredibly weak

[gusty surge]

Well a buff I was debating was that if this role attacked a witness, all visitors would receive a basic attack and the visiting witnesses receive a powerful attack

[verbal cove]

This is still just a werewolf side grade and again ww is very weak

[gusty surge]

Do you have any suggestions?

[verbal cove]

I think the best way to rework SK is to lean into bloodlust

I think the nks should each be very different and bloodlust allows for that

[gusty surge]

What if
BOTH Witness and Bloodlust was used?

Increase Bloodlust to 4 required perhaps

[verbal cove]

I'd rather just leave rampage to ww

[gusty surge]

Bloodlust is Rampage

[verbal cove]

In grace you first get to use it n5....

[gusty surge]

Well killing witnesses that visit your witness target go towards bloodlust

[verbal cove]

It is but I'm talking about the kill streak combo idea of bloodlust

I'm really not sure how well witness + bloodlust would work

To be fair rampage ain't exactly ww exclusive so rampage/witness could work

[gusty surge]

What if reaching bloodlust gave you a 2nd attack target, but the 2nd attack doesnt give bloodlust

And it requires 3 bloodlust to be used

But you dont lose all bloodlust on not killing

You would just lose one

[verbal cove]

That's been an idea I've heard thrown around quite a bit and I'm quite a fan

[verbal cove]

Interesting

Very interesting imo

[gusty surge]

I could even see a bloodlust requirement of 4, but only if the Witness mechanic was added

Because I really like the idea of SK being very LOUD

In return for high KP

[verbal cove]

I could really see it going either extreme

[gusty surge]

Also I could see WW getting my Stampede idea
Stampede is basically rampage but it also attacks who the target visits if its not you

[verbal cove]

Yeah I just call it rampaging rampage lol

I have absolutely no clue how well stampede would work

[gusty surge]

Shroud should 100% get sk's disguise mechanic tho