A few changes

[warm finch]

Jackal now learns the roles of their recruits.

Recruits learn each other's roles.

Executioner knows the role of their target.

Huge changes ik

[deft lava]

Alt title: jackal and executioner buffs

[warm finch]

real

exe needs it tho, it allows for more creative plays

[deft lava]

Me when the "inquis" says they have pb, wildling, ww heretics with a tracker claim

Real

[warm finch]

plot twist Inquis is Jester

[gleaming gust]

Jackal is fine imo, being forced to communicate in order to get roles is part of why it’s interesting

Executioner one is fine ig, lets you decide if you want to act fast before they get or not, but exe doesn’t need a buff

[drowsy bolt]

Exe does not need a buff...

I might be able to get on board with the rec change if it was just alignment But I think jackal having to figure out which one is which is interesting

[gleaming gust]

I wouldn’t be opposed to the idea of jackal getting
“One of your recruits is Town, the other is Neutral Killing” or something similar

Same for recruits

[drowsy bolt]

I just dislike the idea of them knowing which is which

[drowsy bolt]

Exe does not need it..... Also how does it allow for more creative plays?

[warm finch]

Creative is the wrong word... more like its more plausible to claim TIs as exe if you actually know if your target is a visiting role

Bc rn it feels like gambling if u call somebody Trespassing, yet if you don't push them early they get confirmed and then u cant win

[warm finch]

I think recs should still know tho

Rec arso is broken, if other rec visits them they can never ignite

[drowsy bolt]

Then let them know alignment aka nk

Also, I don't think rec arso should be able to ignite their rec

[warm finch]

same

[drowsy bolt]

You call them murder and you win for free

[warm finch]

alignment only is fine

not from my experience but im not a great exe player and i only rlly get it in vanilla

[drowsy bolt]

Part of the reason I like it is you can know if your recruit is fake claiming but you don't know what

[warm finch]

haha

that is fun

[drowsy bolt]

I very rarely see an exe lose at least an exe that plays lame and calls them murder

[ashen shore]

I mean I’ve played a lot of games where like I call my target trespassing or enemies and end up confirming them

And when I do sheriff or Coro or such I end up pushing someone confirmed or a dep comes out etc

Exe knowing their targets role so they know if they can take it slow or if they have to act fast against a vigilante or smth that’ll confirm itself

Recs knowing each others roles and jackal knowing recs roles isn’t the same as exe though

[drowsy bolt]

Call them murder...

Or sus

[drowsy bolt]

This doesn't help with pushing vigi all it does is make them wait for them to die

And play jest

Which is awful aswell

[ashen shore]

I mean having a Vigi target means you have to act fast otherwise they confirm yourself and you’re basically waiting for them to die or for evil Maj

Like with a seer target you can say you saw them nv when you risk accidentally soft confirming the oracle imstead

It allows for more versatility is what I’m getting at

[ashen shore]

The humble deputy:

[drowsy bolt]

The same thing applies with trespassing except now you get to play an objective that just sucks

[drowsy bolt]

The problem is people will generally let them get their shot off and it becomes pretty obvious if you're being pushed day two that their exe so they'll just shoot someone They're sus of

[drowsy bolt]

It's very easy to just post like 3 seconds late to see if they are a TI claim....

[drowsy bolt]

The problem is it's technically diversity, but the game plan is still the exact same

[gleaming gust]

you can counter deputy pretty easily, by not calling sus or anything d2/3, usually by then dep would shoot

[prime notch]

@gleaming gust has leveled up! (10 ➜ 11)

[gleaming gust]

Thank you.

[ashen shore]

By then a lot of roles would’ve confirmed themselves

[drowsy bolt]

Not a ton but I definitely agree that it's enough to make it optimal to push Day 2

Plus it could very easily get sidetracked with other info which would then allow them to get confirmed

[gleaming gust]

tbh I don’t see exes call sus d2 very often anymore because you’re basically removing yourself from the game one way or another

which isn’t very fun

[drowsy bolt]

It's not fun, which is why it shouldn't be anywhere close to optimal.