#Conjurer Rework - Noah

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celest hatch
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"You are a sorcerer who can spawn objects out of thin air."

** Attack Attack:** Basic
** Defence Defense:** None

(1️⃣) Conjure

  • At daytime Conjure a meteor to deal a Basic Attack to the player.
  • If they have equal/higher than Basic Defense you instead will learn this similar to Deputy Deputy.

(1️⃣) Portal

  • At nighttime select a Coven Member and another player.
  • If their attack or ability were to fail you redirect it to your second target.
  • This is an Astral Visit.

__ YAY Attributes__

  • Upon holding the Necronomicon you will deal a Basic Attack to whoever you visit.

** __ Subpoena Win Conditions__**

  • Eliminate all who would oppose the Coven.
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pallid pendant
eternal robin
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Almost missed this with the pin wave, but I have a few thought on it myself

Conjure, I don’t like being able to completely waste your ability as an evil, yes I see the argument that it’s a “neutral bully” but also losing the game because you wasted your conjure would be so dissatisfying, reliable kills on evils are so much more valuable then town reliable kills like dep.

If you’re hellbent on not killing neutrals, maybe the meteor goes on cooldown for a night if you missed? Keeps utility but does out the evil, so not a perfect solution

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The portal ability, I personally don’t like roles that just kinda ignore what TP/TS try to do, but limiting it to one use is fine

celest hatch
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I get the Conjure argument I've seen a lot of funny plays killing neutrals but I still dont like being randomly hit at daytime just cause the conjurer was feeling like it

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or the PM revealed me as like arso or smth its basically a more free ritualist kill

celest hatch
maiden cosmos
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You have found a neutral

celest hatch
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Oh yeah and that ig

maiden cosmos
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Who you can easily push to gain social cred

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And have no coven hang

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That day

eternal robin
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You wasted a guaranteed kill, PM can do the same thing without risking losing an entire extra kill being added to the game

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CK is limited to 1 because they add kills to the game

maiden cosmos
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A neutral is almost never a “confirmed townie”

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You shouldn’t be conjuring people who you can push

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Your only job is to get rid of confirmed people

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Better than being encouraged to conjure neutrals for free info

ocean pier
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So you’re giving redirect to Conjurer instead of Jinx

celest hatch
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plus since meteor got nerfed he needs smth else to do

ripe gale
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To be fair, the "nerf" is a buff in modes that matter for the most part lol

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No more outing NPs randomly

finite marsh
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so double checking

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if you portal the book holder and they hit an immune does the portal trigger

maiden cosmos
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Ability failing is not succeeding in any way

celest hatch
rugged pivot
finite marsh
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imo its a bit of a niche ability that kinda just exists to counter tav and tps and might be pretty hard to use effectively

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it does have meteor so im not gonna hold it entirely against it but still

celest hatch
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Most of the time when a necro holder is jailed theyre just outted

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because no kills happened that night therefore why portal exists CatShrug

south magnet
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Does Portal charge get consumed even if the Coven members ability doesn't fail?

ripe gale
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I mean at that point just do a GF/Maf and have the Conjurer attack the target lol

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Well technically it doesn't apply as well due to Mafioso failing on TPs counting

celest hatch
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maybe if it had 2 charges though

celest hatch
kindred valve
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nevermind

south magnet
kindred valve
south magnet
celest hatch