#Cursed Soul (Neutral Outlier)

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silk burrow
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The Cursed Soul is a Neutral Outlier role which turns any game they appear in on its head. And then proceeds to swap the head with a boot, the boot gets swapped with a printing press, and any form of sense gets swapped with nonsense. Even sentences aren't safe fɹoɯ ʇhǝ ᴉuʇeɹɟǝrǝucǝ oɟ tɥǝ ǝɥʇ sᴉ ɥɔᴉɥʍ ǝloɹ pǝsɐǝlǝɹun puɐ lɐᴉʇuǝpᴉɟuoɔ 'snoᴉɹǝʇsʎɯ ʎlɥƃᴉɥ ǝɥʇ oʇuᴉ pǝƃuɐɥɔ ʇǝƃ ʎluǝppns ǝloɹ ʎɯ pᴉp ʎɥM ¿noʎ ǝɹɐ oɥM ¿I ɯɐ ǝɹǝɥM ¿uo ƃuᴉoƃ s,ʇɐɥʍ 'ʇᴉɐM ˙slnos pǝsɹnɔ

Attributes

  • If your swap would fail, or you don't pick anybody, a random player is chosen.
  • If your alignment is Town or Wandering Souls, there is a 50% chance your chosen swap will fail.
  • If you choose a Neutral Evil, Neutral Pariah, Neutral Outlier or Horseman, your swap will fail.

Swap (♾️)

  • Choose a player. You will swap roles with them at the end of the night.

Cursed Souls cause players to swap roles, bringing roles into factions that don't belong there, such as town-aligned werewolves or apocalypse aligned coroners. The original Cursed Souls, the members of the Wandering Souls faction, are also trying to hunt down & take out the cursed soul roles, making claiming risky whenever a swap occurs.

What are your thoughts on the role?

  • How strong is the role compared to other roles in their faction?
  • Do you think the role is fun to play as?
  • Is the role fun to play against?
  • Do you have any experiences or stories with this role to share?
Roleicon_Cursed_Soul.png
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-# (: ʎllᴉs ǝq oʇ pǝʇuɐʍ ʇsnɾ ǝǝǝǝǝǝǝǝɹɹos ʇuǝʇuoɔ ƃuᴉɯoɔdn ʇnoqɐ ʇuᴉɥ ɐ ʎllɐnʇɔɐ ʇou s,ǝɹǝɥʇ :ɹǝɯᴉɐlɔsᴉp

next falcon
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I like it.
Fun to play as, with and against.

sharp cosmos
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OH BOY

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GIANT WALL OF TEXT INCOMING

inner isle
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Pretty cool guy

shut thistle
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it fun

weak flare
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I LOVE GAMBLING

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It's basically Swing: the role

shut thistle
weak flare
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Either you get a deputy n1 and instantly shoot the CS, or you just get coroner and rot

proven sparrow
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this is a good version of Cursed Soul

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ignoring how random it can be

weak flare
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It's better than just "You just lose instantly lmao"

tired temple
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What a cute fella
Fun role

tired temple
shut thistle
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aka jest

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i hate jest

dull wadi
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I might be stupid, there are like 3 words in the upside down text that I cant read

shut thistle
shut thistle
rapid pelican
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I’m too lazy to red the text so I will react with Oracle

sharp cosmos
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This is the second worst role in town of salem history only being slightly better than survivor which is a very low bar. People who say this role is fun are the people who are so town pilled they only tome random town whilst also having 5 mythic town scrolls. This role fundamentally breaks the flow of the game by taking away evil's abilities, making 1f1s because of the stupid 50/50 chance and most importantly, it swings in town's way 99% of the time. Let's start with evils losing their abilities: has it ever happened to you the following- you're about to pop out as death or hex the bomb as town or you have doused the last person before igniting only for the shitty cursed soul to take your role and make you instantly lose? It probably has. Evils rely on their abilities way more than townies and by taking away evils roles they essentially lose because how the fuck are you gonna kill as blue cleric or red spy. Problem number 2: it creates 1f1s because "I STOLE CULTIST FROM 7 GETTEM", this isn't great design it's just dumb, you can't even defend yourself because town will always take the 50/50 which leads to

Problem number 3: It swings in town's favor wayy to often due to how likely you are to steal a role from an evil. Even if the cursed soul steals a townie's role as long as that townie is alive they can essentially confirm themselves because "im the original seer". This isn't social deduction, this is just a tornado scrambling everyone's roles for the sake "hahaha we got blue vigilante". Whoever came up with the idea of this role imo shouldn't be allowed to hold any discussions about the core designs of town of salem 2. Thankfully this role is an outlier but point still stands. This is my pick for the unhealthiest town of salem 2 role

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I loahe the existence of this role more than anything else in town of salem 2, even more than gamethrowers

shut thistle
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but its fine in taa cuz its taa

sharp cosmos
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The only list it has worked so far is dracula souls

rapid pelican
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Rainbow mode with cursed souls

sharp cosmos
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And it's solely because it can't screw over vamps

shut thistle
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its great in teams though

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we love cs in teams

sharp cosmos
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Teams should burn in a tar ditch

dull wadi
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Mods, burn this guy for having a valid opinion

shut thistle
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and its alot harder to push that

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than the evil

gentle narwhal
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I personally don't enjoy playing as, with, or against CS

shut thistle
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i had no clue cs was this disagreed upon

restive vessel
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i think this is a healthy version of tos1 amne

dull wadi
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Cs is actually this best role in the game and has 0 problems at all whatsoever

next falcon
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mfw outliers actually do things that arent balanced (Its like they were designed to be unbalanced and just fun)

restive vessel
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"outlier doesnt mean its unbalanced"

next falcon
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no, it means they were designed to be fun

restive vessel
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that was sarcasm

olive gazelle
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getting a 100% chance on swapping evils is stupid

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and the same thing as 5050 as it was until you have less players

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also vanilla ruined this role for me so

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L role

restive vessel
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only evils get the 100 percent chance

olive gazelle
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that's what i said

restive vessel
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and that doesnt even work

crisp bridge
crisp bridge
restive vessel
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that sounds so annoying

crisp bridge
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I also remember getting plaguebearer before they transformed and then I got jailed right after

olive gazelle
weak flare
restive vessel
tired temple
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whats the problem with evil CS having a 100% swap chance
surely as evil cs you would like to make sure you get the role you want

spice parcel
inner isle
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Although ur not choosing anyone specifically

shut thistle
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That's neat

shut spoke
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Until Tuba makes the change to hide the role a cursed soul had, cursed soul is town sided

last belfry
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fun concept, but

  • Too much confirmation for town
  • Evils (especially NKs) get punished too hard
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also make recs and egotist swappable

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though one thing I'd like to change with CS is

  • if a town aligned player uses a role reveal (witch, PM, baker), they do not learn the role, and get a sheriff inno/sus instead
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then make NPs swappable Antics

viscid talon
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Coven aligned town roles can use the book, but if you get apoc investigator and serial looker, the game is just over for them

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That's not good when neutral roles confirm townies and strip evils of the ability to reasonably win

median isle
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It's fun in TAA but Wandering Souls lists are so unfun as any evil

sweet sapphire
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add a slots machine role, this isn't enough gambling

topaz cliff
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I have no comment on this

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It was fun until I got used to it then was like "okay okay we had our fun, back to not playing with special roles (expect for Jack Scott)"

granite mesa
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I agree with Problem 3

proven sparrow
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teams

marsh berry
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imo it’s fun to play as or against…but i have to change my entire strategy in modes that have it as a confirmed slot. it becomes such a headache trying to remember who was what and where a role is..
and it’s so hard to check whether a town slot is taken because i forget that there’s a town jinx who was originally cleric Meaning there’s no tp slots or something

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i usually have to let the game play out until there’s like 5 people left to get any sense of what’s going on

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which is bad!!!!! there should be at least Some strategies in use for most modes

sweet sapphire
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i dont like playing against it as evil because you just become useless if you get a shit role

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sure it might be funny but

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it isnt very fun if you are solo apoc cleric

regal briar
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Its like jester
Fun to play but not so much to play against

weak flare
regal briar
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It's not that bad

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It's just exe with changing target atp

weak flare
regal briar
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Not really

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Pushing the confirmed townie is fun guys wooo

weak flare
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You barely even know who your target is lmao

regal briar
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I forgot I only play Cs in vanilla right

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  • me swapped vigi who faked tracker to survive
  • says Cs has vigi d3
  • invest I swapped "I was swapped" 🧠
weak flare
regal briar
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🤷

shut thistle
raw crown
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peak role design