Therapist - [ Neutral Outlier ]

[slow lava]

"Your target is a manipulative charmer to others for their own agenda. They must be a Therapist!

Alignment - **Neutral Outlier **
Attack: None | Defense: Basic

Abilities

Self-Preservation

• At the start of the game you may have Therapy with yourself.
• This allows you to Prescribe a Win Condition you would like to go as.
• If you do not choose it will select a random Win Condition for you.

( ♾️ ) Therapy

• At daytime offer Therapy to another player.
• If they say yes you will set up a Therapy Session with them at nighttime.
• If your Prescribe charges have been used up this ability is ineffective.

( 3️⃣ ) Prescribe

• During a Therapy Session Prescribe the player with a Win Condition.
• Once done their Role Color will change & must win the Win Condition Prescribed to them.

Attributes

• You cannot Prescribe: Doomsayer or other Neutral Outliers.
• Factional Win Conditions may only be Prescribed twice per game and never the same faction (This also applies to Self-Preservation)

Win Condition

• You win however you wish for the game is in your hands.

[verbal finch]

you got your account back? @slow lava

[slow lava]

Yes

after like what

a month?

[terse zephyr]

Is it only currently in game win cons? Are some banned? Are there new ones?

[slow lava]

in game win cons to not make it confusing

[slow lava]

Only the ones listed currently

[terse zephyr]

What happens if you do jester win con? Do you still get the haunt? Same with exe

[slow lava]

nah your just dead but win in which.. is very unhealthy now that i think about it

[terse zephyr]

So We can now have visiting Jesters, albeit without the haunt

[swift shale]

Jester wincon x4 next question

[fluid thicket]

Is there any reason it doesn't just go town every single time?

[slow lava]

I think I need to make some changes since I never specified how many times you can give the same win condition

[slow lava]

Factional Win Conditions may only be Prescribed twice per game and never the same faction (This also applies to Self-Preservation)

[terse zephyr]

Coven would be broken aswell

[slow lava]

Even if you did go town route you'd only get yourself because that takes your charge

[terse zephyr]

Now you have 6 coven members

Oh 5

But still

[fluid thicket]

Even if you can't convert anyone, it's still a self-confimer with basic defense

[terse zephyr]

Purely cuz I hate the idea of visiting jests/exes even without them doing there thing I'ma gonna have to say no thanks

[slow lava]

an idea would probably be to cut out the ability to become town for only self-preservation cause it is just town vampire if you go that route

[terse zephyr]

Cultist but they convert themselves

This role scares me

[steep dune]

Jeath

[verbal finch]

You can prescribe non-doomsayer NEs and NPs?

[fluid thicket]

Jestilence can finally become real

[terse zephyr]

I'd need therapy if this role were added but hey the role would be added so that wouldn't be too hard to get

[steep dune]

I wouldn't allow this to choose town wincon, if it chooses town then turns a coven into a townie they have no reason not to out the other coven

[fluid thicket]

Wait what's with the hashtag

[verbal finch]

The issue is that this is either Coven Cultist but on crack (3 Indocs), or a role that encourages Coven to "gamethrow" (it wouldn't be gamethrowing because the Coven doesn't win with their team anymore, and thus, it is justified)

[verbal finch]

#MakeOtherNeutralKillingRolesHaveTheSameOrSimilarPowerToWhatSerialKillerCurrentlyHasInsteadOfNerfingSerialKiller

[fluid thicket]

Wouldn't be simpler to just do #NO-lite NK

[verbal finch]

no

[fluid thicket]

Though it wouldn't be a funny

[slow lava]

Update

• Therapist while in Self-Preservation can no longer go in factional Win Conditions but they are allowed to Prescribe it to others.

The issue with this is it just makes it anti-town and I didnt really want it to be anti-town but not anti-evil either?

very confusing

[fluid thicket]

Wait, this can just leave d2 depending on the list if there is no CS

Wait

I can't read

[slow lava]

what

[fluid thicket]

Nvm

[verbal finch]

Assuming I understood it correctly, assuming this chooses Coven wincon d2, it still permits Coven to have a 6-man team

*d1

[slow lava]

Essentially yeah its just a allrounder cultist

actually cultist but better currently

[verbal finch]

And it still has the problem of being able to convert Coven, which essentially has Town automatically know who all of Coven is

If it sides Town and then finds a Coven to convert, Coven is just out of the game

since the Converted Coven is highly incentivized to full out their team for their new wincon

[hardy sierra]

This is too much for even neutral Outlier

Somehow

[slow lava]

Hm, never considered that

Well cutting town & coven off completely kind of just makes it bland no?

[slow lava]

im sure outliers have gotten way worse as far as suggestions go

[hardy sierra]

I actually think

This is the pinnacle

Because this is VERYYY influential

Way. Too much

[slow lava]

after what fresh has stated I do agree but I think its still salvagable to a degree

[hardy sierra]

Eh

Maybe

[slow lava]

v2 later or whenever regardless fun to experiment

[fluid thicket]

Flashbacks to Redeemer

[slow lava]

was redeemer even a outlier

I forgor

ohh

[verbal finch]

The introduction to Town Special

[wintry dock]

this is like

"team autobalancing if it was in tos2"

i love going from coven to apoc and then ratting my team out

altering your win condition is interesting but anyone else's unless you are directly converting them similar to vampire or cultist isn't good

[sharp void]

So basically jester with permanent defense and the ability to also screw up everyone else's game at the same time

[unkempt haven]

Reply to: @slow lava
a month?
LMAO

also I'm here solely to comment on the peak icon

nothing else

therefore i give it an upvote

B)

[slow lava]

It was from nunny unfortunately just slightly editted to get the pacifist thingy out their eyes lol

[unkempt haven]

ah lmao

doesn't matter still peak art so my point stands

B)

[slow lava]

Fair enough lol

[vital wagon]

TOS2 players are afraid of therapy , you should know that smh

[median plover]

› jester win con
› therapist
› "therapist"