Apocalypse Role Buckets

[regal crater]

Adds 5 new role buckets to the game:

• Apocalypse Killing
› Currently contains Berserker
• Apocalypse Utility
› Currently contains Baker
• Apocalypse Recon
› Currently contains Plaguebearer
• Apocalypse Power
› Soul Collector, Warlock
• Common Apocalypse
› All Apocalypse buckets contained in Apocalypse Utility, and Apocalypse Recon.
› Not recommended to contain Apocalypse Power, use dual buckets instead.

This sets the framework for when more Horsemen are possibly added.

Alternatively:

• Apocalypse War
› Contains War acolytes
• Apocalypse Famine
› Contains Famine acolytes
• Apocalypse Pestilence
› Contains Pestilence acolytes
• Apocalypse Death
› Soul Collector, Warlock
• Common Apocalypse
› Contains Famine and Pestilence acolytes. May contain Death acolytes, but this is not recommended.

[lucid junco]

This suggestion is retroactive so therefore I have no opinion

[regal crater]

This does affect the current game state.

For example, here is the current list for Pandora Town Traitor. The "Random Apocalypse" bucket could be replaced by a dual Common Apocalypse/Apocalypse Power bucket.

The effect in lists would increase list diversity.

[lucid junco]

So old PTT

where bers was banned

[primal folio]

lmao

[regal crater]

Yeah this could be like that if the devs wanted

[lucid junco]

This doesn't have enough purpose

[regal crater]

You could affect the chances of specific acolytes appearing, or do some other list fuckery.

Go wild.

[lucid junco]

The point of SC/warlock is supposed to be a win con for themselves, not for team deception

it just so happens they are also great for mishanging

[regal crater]

Tbh allowing listmakers to go wild and setting the framework for more apoc members appearing in the future is purpose enough in my eyes

[lucid junco]

however, you could push people yourself

[primal folio]

The thing is, it is a bit unneeded as of right now. If there'll be a new Alternate Acolyte, sure, but there's only WL rn

[lucid junco]

tuba said he didn't want this

apoc needs an overhaul separate from just more acolytes

[regal crater]

This was so I wouldn't directly put apoc deception as all death acolytes but tbh it does fit more as apoc power

[lucid junco]

baker is problematic

[regal crater]

Didn't want more acolytes, you mean?

[lucid junco]

yes

no more acolytes

[primal folio]

This is PURE speculation, but I feel as if new Alts would be on the table after all problematic roles have been dealt with to a sufficient standard

Like, once NKs are chill and a good Baker/Famine niche is found.

[regal crater]

Could work

[regal crater]

May I ask what makes Baker problematic?

[vast heart]

Famine

[primal folio]

As a soloist, it hardly wins.

In a team, it's SC with better utility.

[regal crater]

And turns faster too

So it's usually better than SC

Hmmmmmmmm

[gentle patio]

💀

[high nimbus]

To help with future role additions, we are adding some new buckets...

Buckets

Admirer – Town Lover
Amnesiac – Town Wanderer
Bodyguard – Town Defender
Cleric – Town Healer
Coroner – Town Examiner
Crusader – Town Avenger
Deputy – Town Enforcer
Investigator – Town Sleuth
Jailor – Town Warden
Lookout – Town Watcher
Mayor – Town Leader
Monarch – Town Ruler
Prosecutor – Town Arbiter
Psychic – Town Visionary
Retributionist – Town Reviver
Seer – Town Prophet
Sheriff – Town Detective
Spy – Town Informant
Tavern Keeper – Town Host
Tracker – Town Pursuer
Trapper – Town Snare
Trickster – Town Dork
Veteran – Town Survivor
Vigilante – Town Punisher
Conjurer – Town Summoner
Coven Leader – Town Matriarch
Dreamweaver – Town Sleeper
Enchanter – Town Charmer
Hex Master – Town Caster
Illusionist – Town Mirage
Jinx – Town Cat
Medusa – Town Gorgon
Necromancer – Town Reanimator
Poisoner – Town Venom
Potion Master – Town Brewer
Ritualist – Town Occultist
Voodoo Master – Town Shaman
Wildling – Town "That's Wild"
Witch – Town Spellbinder
Arsonist – Town Burner
Baker – Town Provider
Berserker – Town Fury
Doomsayer – Town Herald
Executioner – Town Headsman
Jester – Town Fool
Pirate – Town Raider
Plaguebearer – Town Carrier
Serial Killer – Town Stalker
Shroud – Town Shade
Soul Collector – Town Reaper
Werewolf – Town Beast
Vampire – Town Predator
Cursed Soul – Town Wraith
Banshee – Town Screamer
Jackal – Town Hunter
Marshal – Town Commander
Oracle – Town Fake
Judge – Town Magistrate
Auditor – Town Examiner
Inquisitor – Town Seeker
Starspawn – Town Abomination
Warlock – Town Binder
Catalyst – Town Spark
Cultist – Town Believer
Socialite – Town Noble
Pacifist – Town Peacemaker

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this change has no reason to exist unless they actually have plans to add 3 new acolytes, which they probably don't

[gentle patio]

I was planning to have 2 apoc buckets

• Apoc. Following: Contains apocalypse roles that benefit their team and has synergies with others. These roles can be good solo, but are recommended with 4H.
  • Baker
  • Plaguebearer
• Apoc. Harbinger These roles are very good solo, and rely on Basic Defense or Detection Immunity to reap all benefits.
  • Berserker
  • Soul Collector
  • Warlock

But 5 buckets is just… way too much

-# (proof of concept ofc, don’t take this as an actual suggestion.. I thought of this in like 5 minutes LOL)

[regal crater]

tbh this could work

Apocalypse Acolyte and Apocalypse Harbinger

[lucid junco]

no

why would you put sc and bers into the same role bucket