fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:10 AM

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Trapper

Town Protective

Attack : None
Defence : None

Abilities

Deploy/Set-up - Infinite Uses | Night

Twice per night you may visit a player and place a Trap at their house
You can only have 2 traps active at any time
-You cannot deploy at your own home
Traps do nothing until they are Activated
Activate - Infinite Uses | Night
Activate your traps, granting Powerful Defense and revealing if at least evil (includes Reaped/Enchanted) player visited a target that night.
Traps demolish the end of the night they are Activated

Attributes

You will demolish both old traps if you place new ones (but you can "retrap" a player who already has a trap)

Keywords

Trap

The Trapper can place a Trap at 2 players, which does nothing until it is Activated.
Activate
-The Trapper can Activate their traps, giving all Traped players powerful defence and revealing if they were visited by at least one evil to the Trapper.

Why? Read the whole post on why trapper is an exceptionally bloated, unhealthy role.
How is this role meant to be played? As a more tactical, slightly delayed action cleric. In exchange for no consistent nightly protection, you double your odds on any given night of successfully protecting a player, as well as being able to protect two priority targets at once.
You also get a little bit of information to make up for the additional downsides of being vulnerable to rbs/controls twice, having double the odds of hitting one of the many roles that harms visitors, and being an absolutely diabolical shroud target.
I was originally thinking that the number of traps would be uncapped, but I also realized this would almost certainly lead to people playing it as town arsonist and trying to get everybody to have powerful defence on one night, which would be kinda stupid.

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Also: A player cannot have two traps placed on them (because that would be useless)

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Also: "Traped"

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Also shout out to @ruby mauve for revealing how ass trapper was for the game I was not aware...

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Basically:
pick two players
give them powerful defence the next night
repeat until victory or defeat

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:20 AM

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this is just a staggered version of cleric

noble aspen Sep 12, 2025, 10:20 AM

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Aight I dunno who thought having to activate trap was fun but its not

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:20 AM

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only real thing it keeps from trapper is the inconvient wait between nights

noble aspen Sep 12, 2025, 10:20 AM

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Interesting concept comically bad execution

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:20 AM

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issue is theres no reason not to spam activate traps

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:20 AM

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that's the point

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you play it as 2x odds of protect for half the nights

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:22 AM

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not being able to protect for a night is pretty inconvient for a tp

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:22 AM

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dry cosmos not being able to protect for a night is pretty inconvient for a tp

oracle crus and current trapper all have this

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:22 AM

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all this does is just make a slower feeling cleric

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:23 AM

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fluid minnow oracle crus and current trapper all have this

minus trapper you can still protect just not the same target

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:24 AM

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dry cosmos all this does is just make a slower feeling cleric

with double the odds of stopping an evil attack

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and just a little bit of info

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:26 AM

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fluid minnow with double the odds of stopping an evil attack

intill you realise that in practice you have the same amount of protects and thus roughly same odds

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:27 AM

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it's a cleric side grade lol
you get a different rhythm of the same effect with a bit of useful info

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:28 AM

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cleric side grades are just generic and boring

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you lobotomise trapper just to make it cleric sidegrade 4

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:30 AM

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it's better designed than:
bg: instant 1f1 (unless they have astral attacks cause then you just lose)
oracle: does nothing and dies
trapper: they made a whole post on this guy!

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so... every tp except cleric lmao

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:32 AM

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so if every tp was a different flavour of give person powerful defence would you consider it well designed

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a role can be ballanced but if im falling asleep playing it i wouldnt realy call that well designed

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:33 AM

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I prefer TPS to be
like
as good as cleric lmao
like bg gets the closest to where cleric is out of the current roster but like
trickster kinda clears it lmao

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:34 AM

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dry cosmos so if every tp was a different flavour of give person powerful defence would you...

no, oracle does exactly this and is abysmal dogshit that gets hanged out of tradition lmao

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:35 AM

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fluid minnow no, oracle does exactly this and is abysmal dogshit that gets hanged out of trad...

so why is you suggestion different?

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:35 AM

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dry cosmos so why is you suggestion different?

because it's a viable role that can effectively do its job without having to know exact roles in a game where ritualist exists?

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:37 AM

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so what are you doing when your solo tp

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with your tpow outed

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:38 AM

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what does crusader do?

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:39 AM

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crusader trades consistency for utility to block non attacking evils

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:39 AM

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this reveals the presence of non attacking evils

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:39 AM

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what does this gain in its trade of over than a more inconvenient method of protecting people

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oh theres a non attacking evil wonder which of the 3 non bookholders it couldve been

low talonBOT Sep 12, 2025, 10:40 AM

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@dry cosmos has leveled up! (14 ➜ 15)

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:40 AM

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multi protect (save tg and te at the same time)
information (reveal if someone was visited by a non-harmful evil)

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:41 AM

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dry cosmos oh theres a non attacking evil wonder which of the 3 non bookholders it couldve ...

"I rbed 8" and you see that an evil visited 8
hmmm maybe the tav isn't so legit

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:41 AM

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which poisoner open claims their rbs

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:41 AM

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it proves they aren't coven

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:42 AM

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so instant conf

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hm

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i wonder why you want trapper reworked?

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:42 AM

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only if your list has no multiball or enchanter lmao

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and it's an "instant" confirm on even nights that requires way way more deduction than old trapper

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:43 AM

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niche information isnt good enough for lobotmising yourself on every even night

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:43 AM

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then just delay activation to n3 lol

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:44 AM

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which reduces your protect power when a cleric could've just protected on all 3

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:45 AM

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so then you follow the double protect rhythm lol

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:46 AM

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dry cosmos niche information isnt good enough for lobotmising yourself on every even night

^

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:46 AM

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this is like the most clear cleric sidegrade possible

dry cosmos Sep 12, 2025, 10:46 AM

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fluid minnow this is like the most clear cleric sidegrade possible

have you ever questioned if that's why its bad?

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:46 AM

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it's not so niche that it's unusable
in fact it's pretty solid info lol

fluid minnow Sep 12, 2025, 10:50 AM

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dry cosmos have you ever questioned if that's why its bad?

with the current balance of half the slots in the game yeah I could go for some simple side grades honestly

fickle nova Sep 12, 2025, 3:50 PM

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So this guy technically protects an average of 1 person a night by protecting 2 people every other night

#Trapper Rework - But what if he was two clerics...

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