#Arsonist Tweaks

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rapid dust
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  1. Doused people are shown as Arsonist to:
    -Reveals from Baker and PB
    -Coroner searching for Arsonist
    -Spy will see their visit as Arsonist
  2. Ignite is now a Basic Attack. However, it's a passive ability now.
    2.1) Gains ability to Torch: Select one of the Doused players. They will be dealt Powerful Attack.
  3. You will Douse every visitor of original Douse target. However, Douse does not spread by itself.
  4. People who die from Ignite/Torch will have their roles and last wills hidden.

-Decided to not give a complete frame since it can make arsonist too busted (and sometimes overcomplicate this - like forcing Coven and Apoc to out doused people as arsonist, which will basically backfire on them as they will lose potential ignite targets)
-Power nerf due to compensation via obscuring info and faster douse spread.

Also, there is another variant in mind. Basically, domino-based one (torch one and it ignites every adjacent douse)

austere mantle
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why is this needed

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arsonist is already deceptive via douse not being harmful and by being quiet until igniting

graceful harbor
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Arso is already in a good spot, or at the very least the neutral with the least amount of changes needed to it

rapid dust
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douse does nothing, it can be just found by random ass spy

austere mantle
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douse sets up ignite...

rapid dust
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yeah, and then it dies. it has literally the same issue as vanilla baker

graceful harbor
rapid dust
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good luck getting good ignites.

austere mantle
rapid dust
austere mantle
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that's called a skill issue

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and an issue with multiball

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it's unavoidable

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and really not a big deal...

rapid dust
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you either bread an tplo, risking getting caught
or go for low-prio target that has risk of getting whacked by same logic you had

graceful harbor
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I mean if you want to make baker more consistent, just buff the ability to place bread after they die

rapid dust
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douse needs something more then just ignite setup

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(and no NK hexbomb)

graceful harbor
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If you really want to do that

austere mantle
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the whole design of hex/douse/feed is to guess who stays alive

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and curse

rapid dust
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and that's is oof. and you either go for big one, either go for smaller ones. and i don't see any advantage in that

raven kiln
austere mantle
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the thing I can see happening is bread disabling all abilities during famine

raven kiln
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anyway you lost me at douses visitors at the original target

austere mantle
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so the baker. can call tplo

graceful harbor
austere mantle
graceful harbor
austere mantle
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like if you bread a tpow, during famine they have abilities disabled

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this is for solo design

bronze dust
upper storm
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zz has fallen off icl