Sheriff Buff

[worldly verge]

Sheriff but it finds all 4 coven now

Because screw coven

[keen juniper]

So very strong early game, but very bad late game

[neat wing]

It will only find 3, the fourth one will appear innocent always

[worldly verge]

I guess it can’t find the last one

[keen juniper]

Which, Sheriff already is tbf

What does NP fall under

[neat wing]

NPs are unique right? I suppose solo scheming.

[worldly verge]

hmm

[smoky hull]

Honestly, a toggle like that is fine IMO.

I think Solo Scheming should be renamed and should grant the ability to find bookholders

[worldly verge]

Sheriff just becomes even better in the early game (but can’t find NP/NE) and then after it’s one evil left it finds more

[worthy tundra]

Make Coven Leader inno

If bers inno CL inno

[worldly verge]

Bers wouldn’t be inno with this no?

I still think this just makes sheriff too good early game, it’s just “I find all coven and apocalypse”

[worthy tundra]

Look at attributes

[worldly verge]

I’m saying if they implemented this change

[neat wing]

Current bers is always inno to sheriff

[worldly verge]

I am, aware

Sheriff is ALREADY a good role and this is making it likely even better

[keen juniper]

So is NKs and Bookholder

[worldly verge]

(Other than not finding np)

[neat wing]

Anyway, the idea here is that you can find the evils that would usually appear innocent in replace of not being able to find evils that usually appear suspicious.

[neat wing]

Berserker appears innocent because people don’t want it getting found and killed immediately in 4H.

[worldly verge]

I think this makes sheriff even more 1 dimensional than it already is

Can’t fake as NE

Even bookholder is sus

[keen juniper]

Berserker is Innocent because it's a killing role

The role that does killing is Inno 95% of the time

[neat wing]

I dont think that’s how it should work for sheriff honestly

let me reword a bunch of stuff

clean it up a bit

[worldly verge]

It’s like that for Invest/Sheriff of ye old, they each found what the others couldn’t

Sheriff could probably do with a glow up but I don’t think reducing counterplay for evils is the solution

[neat wing]

@keen juniper, @worldly verge, @worthy tundra

I basically reworked it where you can reverse what you’re looking for. (Evils that would usually show suspicious show innocent, Evils that usually show innocent show suspicious). Keeping your downvote is fine, just wanted to notify you of such though.

[worthy tundra]

Give a list of which is which

[worldly verge]

“I am become Investigator, finder of killers” - Sheriff

[neat wing]

What appears sus now == Conspiracy
What doesn’t appear sus now == Intent of Murder

[worthy tundra]

Add CL to intent of murder

Imo

[neat wing]

got it

[worthy tundra]

It's a bad idea, but... I like that

[worldly verge]

CL =/= Bers

[neat wing]

ehhh

[worthy tundra]

CL ≈ Bers

[neat wing]

Eh I removed CL

sorry

[worthy tundra]

That's prob best lol

[surreal pollen]

theres nothing this is just a buff.

[worldly verge]

it WAS a rework

now it’s just a buff

[neat wing]

Changed it

Sheriff Buff

[keen shell]

This steals from what coroner should steal instead investigator for no justifiable reason

[neat wing]

errrrr what? This does not check kills at all

The real change I wanted was for sheriff to be able to find NKs if they currently had another teammate alive.

[keen shell]

lol what

investigator checks for murder

[neat wing]

yes it does

so how is this stealing (It doesn't check for murder)
-# When I posted this comment, I didn't realize the pattern of sheriff was that it could find any role not capable of killing. Way to make me look like an idiot.

[keen shell]

you just suggested for it to check for murder

[neat wing]

could you quote the part it does?

[keen shell]

that but better

it’s better murder

[neat wing]

People use investigator for tresspassing (it be able to check murder).

[keen shell]

so give it to coroner not sheriff

[neat wing]

My original version was different but people didn't care for it and claimed to prefer a toggle more

You would check for conspiracy (evil has a living teammate) or Solo Scheming (evil started the game solo)

Not at the same time of course

[chilly sparrow]

don't know the context but that is like

not a bad thing

at all

[neat wing]

wait why did the post delete?

[silk mantle]

why did bro delete their post

[worthy tundra]

fr

[neat wing]

I didn’t do it unless it was a misclick

I usually just lock the post if I don’t want people commenting on it to revive it

[silk mantle]

audit log shows nothing, so can only be you lol

[surreal pollen]

theres like 2 uses for this

you can now fake claim semi evil roles as a apoc or smth if ur sc ragequits