Its just more unnecessary kill power for Coven and also takes away the risk for Cultist converting a useless town role like Coro.
If thats too harsh, then allow TK, TE, TG, and TO to become CK/Cpow but nobody else.
Coro --> Conj glow up goes hard through
#Indoctrinated Town should not be able to be retrained into Ck or Cpow by a Coven Leader
native mantle
slow citrus
inland idol
autumn wraith
The second part would be weird bcuz if it's a CL of another alignment they can't retrain their team or themselves into a CK/Cpow role
And it would have to include all evils being retrainable into CK/Cpow
autumn wraith
Getting an evil role off of CS should be good, not "this is useless, best I can do is change myself/teammates into necromancer"
crude estuary
fickle knot
Getting an evil role off of CS should be good, not "this is useless, best I can ...
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this is to do with indocced townies
not swapped
grizzled gyro
They specify cultist, I assume they meant indocced
autumn wraith
If it applies to recruited it applies to swapped as well, they function the same iirc
fickle knot
no?
i think town (coven) still can't get book 
i do unironically think that indocced is different thou
fickle knot
i think town (coven) still can't get book <:TrollFace:1206327321066213437>
as in CS swapped townies
autumn wraith
I doubt there's a way to make this only apply to cov aligned CL
autumn wraith
They can only get book if all coven members are dead, iirc
They can be passed book
grizzled gyro
autumn wraith
Indoc converts a town role to cov faction
CS swaps whatever role cov cs swaps with to cov
grizzled gyro
They just used the wrong keyworrrrddd
autumn wraith
They function the same
grizzled gyro
This is about indoctrinating roles and making Cultist take more care
So that they can’t just take a role and immediately retrain them to witch
CS is functionally the same as Indoc
-# role wise
fickle knot
sure but i still think the functions are different
espically since when
CS swaps 2 roles, leaves the allignment behin
cultist changes an allignment
grizzled gyro
A change to the way retrains on townies work is a change to both of them, and so both should be considered
grizzled gyro
They could have an attribute that the indocced townie gets that says “only retrainable to non CK-CPOW” ig
fickle knot
“only retrainable to common coven" is a better way of saying that
autumn wraith
If it can somehow only be applied to indoctrinated, it'd be fine
grizzled gyro
It wouldn’t matter, getting CL from CS is objectively a crazy pull
This change makes what difference, no hex or witch?
You can make yourself those
autumn wraith
CK isn't guaranteed
grizzled gyro
- turning 2 townies into Potion Master and Wildling
autumn wraith
Some cultist lists (maybe all?) don't have a CK
autumn wraith
Rit yes
native mantle
Yeah what I meant in the title is about cultist not CS
autumn wraith
If you're CS aligned CL you could retrain into rit to rit CS roles
grizzled gyro
You can still retrain yourself into rit, you’re a coven power
native mantle
Just make it so coven aligned town cannot become Cpow/CK
grizzled gyro
“CL can’t make my team literally unbeatable” is a bad argument
grizzled gyro
Just make it so coven aligned town cannot become Cpow/CK
but yeah I think this is a good change
autumn wraith
If it can only apply to cov/indoctrinated, sure
native mantle
Indoctrinated Town should not be able to be retrained into Ck or Cpow by a Coven Leader
Alright this should clear up confusion
autumn wraith
If that 2nd part applied to all factions, a Town CL could use it to meta game "X can't be retrained into CK/Cpow, they're real" "X claims TP but I can retrain them into CK/Cpow, they're fake"
grizzled gyro
That’s true