#Jackal Buff

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barren frost
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Jackal Jackal

(Neutral Outlier)

Attack Attack: Powerful
Defense Defense: Basic
Disruption Immune: No

Abilities:

(Passive) Recruits Recruit

  • Start off with 2 players who are Recruited.
  • Recruited players are aligned and win with the Jackal, but behave as if on their original faction.
  • Recruits and the Jackal will see eachother's roles, but will not share a night chat.
  • Your Recruits are life-linked.

(Passive) Wiretap

  • You are able to hear all whispers.
  • You may choose to privately whisper either of your Recruits (Would function similar to the old Elder whisper in vanilla), but they may not whisper back without notifying the town.

(♾️,🌙) Assassinate

  • Once either of your Recruits die, you unlock the ability to Assassinate, dealing a powerful attack to your target.
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Jackal needs something but probably not an ability

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So another Passive should do

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(And seeing eachother + the Jackal's roles)

vast elk
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Hmmm, Powerful attack yet no ability

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HMMMM

lone merlin
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it's just a buff

vast elk
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oh

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yeah sure

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do this

barren frost
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Gimme a sec

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Should recs still be lifelinked or should Jackal just get Assassinate once a rec dies?

vast elk
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keep lifelink

compact acorn
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If there isn't a lifelink then there isn't a way for the Pandora to kill their "Pandora" rec

barren frost
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True ig

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Can anyone think of a better name for Overhear that's more onbrand

barren frost
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Eh why not

vestal cape
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sorry the fucking elder whisper???

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TOWN ELDERS HAD SECRET WHISPERS???

barren frost
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Yep

vestal cape
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HOW AM I ONLY NOW HEARING ABOUT THIS

barren frost
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It wouldn't show up to Town, it was supposed to be used to help new players without outting their role to the entire town

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BTW I used Elder whispers to explain wiretap because you would still be able to whisper them normally to prevent people from saying "Whisper outted rec to prove you're not Jackal"

acoustic kiln
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thats wild bro

steady nacelle
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just like

barren frost
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Wildling Town Of Salem 2?

vast elk
upbeat jacinth
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At this point, just let Recs know who Jackal is.

Kinda removes the whole point of the "Recs don't know who Jackal is" gimmick if the Jackal can freely whisper to them.

acoustic kiln
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I'm fine with that

upbeat jacinth
steady nacelle
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np

upbeat jacinth
steady nacelle
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fuck this always happens 1 sec

vestal cape
barren frost
barren frost
barren frost
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You said to just let Recs know Jackal since Jackal can whisper them but I already had that

alpine forge
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Everything but the whisper hearing is fine

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SK only got it so they have the info of the whispering of the person they were disguising ss

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*as

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Otherwise it could be metagamed the fuck out of

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"TPOW: im giving everyone a code word. Respond tomorrow or die."
Tpow is whispering 9 "Tpow: Apple"
next day
"Tpow: @9 didnt know codeword theyre sk"

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So that makes sense for it

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But why does jackal get it

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Like tf

barren frost
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Same reason Wildling gets it

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Utility

late palm
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Jackal + Rec Wildling + Rec SK triple threat

alpine forge
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Wildling is not an example of good role design

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It's so bad the only time it does anything is when someone full claims jailor in whispers d2

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If it doesn't catch anything big it's literally useless

severe yacht
alpine forge
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it should just have

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actually consistent utility

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instead of being a claimbag with info that sometimes helps

severe yacht
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People just don't make sense

alpine forge
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yeah fair enough people really don't a lot of the time

severe yacht
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I made a reddit post making fun of wildling and like most of the comments where people defending it

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Besides from btos2 playere

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Players*

exotic hazel
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Can we alow Jackal to have Powerful attack if it doesn't start with recruits please

barren frost
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What does that even mean Jackal is guaranteed to have recs

exotic hazel
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If Jackal spawns with 14 town he wouldn't have recs

barren frost
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I mean in a normal list

late palm
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The 3 Psychics watching as the Vampire dies to the Jackal N1 in TAA

exotic hazel
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Also Teams , Jackal is a nothing role

barren frost
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We don't speak of the forbidden modifier

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(Also you can just ban Jackal?)

exotic hazel
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Or in a 2 player list

barren frost
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These cases are never gonna happen in casual, we don't balance around screwing around in custom+

exotic hazel
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Its not balence, its a fail safe so it doesnt break the game