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warm crest Jul 3, 2025, 8:49 PM

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WL/SC are combined into 1 bucket
CPow/CK are combined into 1 bucket

tight zenith Jul 3, 2025, 8:55 PM

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seeing "seer buff" in suggestions is a fucking jumpscare

warm crest Jul 3, 2025, 9:12 PM

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Seer went from Overpowered to insanely underpowered

gilded kiln Jul 3, 2025, 9:14 PM

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how is it underpowered compared to something like sheriff though

warm crest Jul 3, 2025, 9:15 PM

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Sheriff can find 75% of evil roles just by visiting them

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Seer has to precisely say which evil bucket/role they wanna find

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Like yeah they get 2 shots at it, but it's still unlikely

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I've only gotten 2 positives from seer since update

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The only evils sheriff can't find by visiting is bers, NKs, jackal, and a cov with necronomicon

gilded kiln Jul 3, 2025, 9:17 PM

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idk what lists get picked in casual

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so I don’t have great reference for this

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but I can see this

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If seer could pick RA it would be so much more powerful

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I see why it doesn’t

warm crest Jul 3, 2025, 9:18 PM

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True but it would make apoc lists suck because it's just sheriff with 2 visits and it could find necro holder

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I could see maybe combining SC/WL but that's about it

gilded kiln Jul 3, 2025, 9:20 PM

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I can see “salient coven” being a bucket

warm crest Jul 3, 2025, 9:20 PM

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Yeah that too

gilded kiln Jul 3, 2025, 9:20 PM

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that alone would make it much more viable

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because now you’re targeting coven’s source of power

warm crest Jul 3, 2025, 9:21 PM

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Yeah I'll add that to the post

gilded kiln Jul 3, 2025, 9:21 PM

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I think that alone should be enough

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and combining sc+warlock

warm crest Jul 3, 2025, 9:22 PM

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I'll do it so it's like 2 possible solutions

gilded kiln Jul 3, 2025, 9:22 PM

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two buckets would get messy really fast

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it already is kinda messy

broken inlet Jul 3, 2025, 9:30 PM

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i'd pick one of these buffs but not both, being able to do salient + common coven bucket makes this able to find the entire coven at once

warm crest Jul 3, 2025, 9:46 PM

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That why I put Or: in the middle, both would make seer OP again

fringe saddle Jul 4, 2025, 6:02 AM

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warm crest * WL/SC are combined into 1 bucket * CPow/CK are combined into 1 bucket

shy jetty Jul 4, 2025, 7:08 AM

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SC/WL in same bucket absolutely
but uh
checking 2 buckets is basically just reverting seer in half the lists

ornate dawn Jul 4, 2025, 11:01 AM

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i'd choose the latter

gilded kiln Jul 4, 2025, 11:49 AM

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yeah, the two bucket thing is just too much

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