Inquisitor Rework v1 | BetterTOS2 | Page 1

lunar sparrow Apr 28, 2025, 1:51 PM

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gaining invincible defense doesn’t really mean much tbh

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considering most evils will not be nightkilled especially if it is announced they won’t be dying

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 1:54 PM

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It just makes it a lot harder for evils to remove other evils

lunar sparrow Apr 28, 2025, 1:54 PM

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its still just weird

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 1:54 PM

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Why?

lunar sparrow Apr 28, 2025, 1:54 PM

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i like the heretic targeting system though

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 1:55 PM

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If the punishment was bigger

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then it would be too harsh

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for an NE

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It’s the best punishment I can think of without making it outright unwinnable for town

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@pure pollen why skull react

pearl minnow Apr 28, 2025, 2:02 PM

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I mean, this has the same effect as just making it so there's two Town heretics and one factional lol

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:03 PM

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That’s the idea

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It’s supposed to make it harder for inquisitors to come out in town majority

pearl minnow Apr 28, 2025, 2:33 PM

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I guess so, but I think it makes it a bit overcomplicated

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like, for the 11-15 scenario to happen, there must be 3 or less non-town players (not including the Inquisitor themselves)

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and even then, they has to be 3 soloists for the Inquisitor to not have a chance of targetting them

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:41 PM

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I mean, might as well assume the hypothetical

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It’s not like inquisitor is meant to be faked

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ahem

slim thicket Apr 28, 2025, 2:43 PM

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Inquisitor is a NE? I thought it was a TK.

lunar sparrow Apr 28, 2025, 2:44 PM

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slim thicket Inquisitor is a NE? I thought it was a TK.

may as well be with the current heretic generation

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:45 PM

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I was going to post a version that delayed kills

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but idk how that would make a difference

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besides letting NKs live

slim thicket Apr 28, 2025, 2:48 PM

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lunar sparrow may as well be with the current heretic generation

Ever since Inquisitor was released I have always said that it was a town role in disguise

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:48 PM

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Also people are skull reacting like I did something wrong but aren’t elaborating why

upbeat pecan Apr 28, 2025, 2:48 PM

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These changes just seem to have a more complicated way to generate heretics, while still not touching the main issue of inqis being swingy. This is just AA balancing

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:48 PM

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upbeat pecan These changes just seem to have a more complicated way to generate heretics, whi...

um, it’s the opposite of that

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lol??

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it makes set lists more consistent

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and more anti town

slim thicket Apr 28, 2025, 2:49 PM

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NEs shouldnt benefit from punishing evils

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:49 PM

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yes but current inquis does this more

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this does it less

mighty adder Apr 28, 2025, 2:51 PM

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why even brother talking about than 1 faction member lol

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:52 PM

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NKs are a faction

upbeat pecan Apr 28, 2025, 2:52 PM

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long swallow it makes set lists more consistent

It's still just the max amount, and it can still target both the jackal/NK/factional evil. Just having inquisitor target two townies makes it more consistent in most lists

mighty adder Apr 28, 2025, 2:52 PM

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no?

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:52 PM

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NEs are technically a faction

mighty adder Apr 28, 2025, 2:52 PM

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unless you have more than 1 of the same sk

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:52 PM

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by the game’s logic they are

mighty adder Apr 28, 2025, 2:53 PM

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mighty adder unless you have more than 1 of the same sk

you can still get arso, shroud, coven

cloud mist Apr 28, 2025, 2:54 PM

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Invincible Defense💀

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:54 PM

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cloud mist Invincible Defense💀

for a night

cloud mist Apr 28, 2025, 2:55 PM

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That doesn't work in AA if you're trying to balance one part and not another

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for AA

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:55 PM

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mostly so the jackal doesn’t end up giving town free maj after the inquis leaves

cloud mist Apr 28, 2025, 2:55 PM

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long swallow mostly so the jackal doesn’t end up giving town free maj after the inquis leaves

w-what

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:55 PM

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that’s 2f2

cloud mist Apr 28, 2025, 2:55 PM

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jackal giving town maj?!

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:55 PM

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yes by killing evils

upbeat pecan Apr 28, 2025, 2:56 PM

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long swallow for a night

Evils aren't going to be dying in the night in balanced role lists, peak AA balancing

cloud mist Apr 28, 2025, 2:56 PM

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It is not even AA balance

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:56 PM

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upbeat pecan Evils aren't going to be dying in the night in balanced role lists, peak AA bala...

Many balanced lists have evils dying at night

cloud mist Apr 28, 2025, 2:56 PM

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AA has more evils than town

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:56 PM

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BG trapper Vigilante Deputy Jailor

cloud mist Apr 28, 2025, 2:56 PM

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so not AA balance

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this is just nerfing town for no good reason

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it only works in set lists with town maj

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 2:57 PM

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wdym nerfing town

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kill the inquisitor

cloud mist Apr 28, 2025, 2:57 PM

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...

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they get free basic def for 2 nights and 3 attacks

pure pollen Apr 28, 2025, 2:58 PM

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long swallow <@908110989747163177> why skull react

I wanted to

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 3:00 PM

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Well I tried

upbeat pecan Apr 28, 2025, 3:01 PM

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long swallow Many balanced lists have evils dying at night

The thing is, evils have no control over when they get invincible defense, so most of the time it's going to be useless. since townies aren't going to use their limited abilities when the inquis has won. This mostly just harms nks as they need to be able to kill evils to keep from them getting majority

pure pollen Apr 28, 2025, 3:01 PM

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Wait, why did you delete it?

cloud mist Apr 28, 2025, 3:01 PM

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they felt shame

long swallow Apr 28, 2025, 3:01 PM

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people weren’t being constructive

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which happens a lot in suggestions now

pearl minnow Apr 28, 2025, 3:21 PM